Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-10-06

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Oktwbrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* Opws gnwrizete, ayth thn wra, brisketai se ejelijh h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Layrio, o opoios, metajy twn allwn, qa egkainiasei kai th nea monada ths DEH.

* Prin dextw tis erwthseis sas, qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw gia mia erwthsh poy exei diatypwsei graptws o "Eleyqeros Typos" kai afora thn pwlhsh twn Katasthmatwn Aforologhtwn Eidwn (KAE). Gia to qema ayto exei programmatistei gia ayrio syzhthsh sth Boylh, sto plaisio toy Koinoboyleytikoy Elegxoy kai qa apanthsei o Yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn k. Xristodoylakhs. Parapempw, loipon, sthn ayrianh syzhthsh, gia na mhn prokatalaboyme thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

KIAOS: Mporeite na mas peite to periexomeno ths grapths erwthshs;

REPPAS: H erwthsh exei dyo skelh kai leei ta ejhs: "H Kybernhsh qewrei qemith thn emplokh toy Dioikhth ths Eqnikhs Trapezas toy k. Karatza kai ws symboyloy ths Kybernhshs gia thn pwlhsh twn KAE kai ws nomikoy symboyloy mesw toy dikhgorikoy grafeioy toy k. Karatza ths etaireias Saresco sthn opoia kai katakyrwqhke o diagwnismos". Ayto einai to ena skelos ths erwthshs. Sto allo skelos h erwthsh leei: "Pws sxoliazei h Kybernhsh tis paratypies sto diagwnismo twn KAE, afoy egine dekth h prosfora ths Saresco, para to gegonos oti to prwtotypo ths eggyhtikhs epistolhs poy katateqhke mia hmera meta to anoigma twn prosforwn doqhke se antallagma, symfwna me plhrofories, apo thn Kybernhsh me xrhmatodothsh apo tis kratikes Trapezes gia thn katabolh toy posoy ejagoras twn KAE apo th Saresco". Ayth einai h erwthsh poy exei diatypwqei. Epanalambanw, oti epeidh ayrio qa ginei h syzhthsh sth Boylh den qa hqela na prokatalabw thn ayrianh syzhthsh, par` olo oti qa mporoysa na dwsw apanthsh. As mpoyme, loipon, ston kanoniko ryqmo twn erwthsewn.

KARAKWSTAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa synedriasei to KYSEA thn Paraskeyh kai an nai me poio antikeimeno;

REPPAS: Ayth thn wra den einai tipota oristiko. Qa sas enhmerwsw, isws, thn Pempth.

KARAKWSTAS: Qa kriqei analogws twn ejelijewn;

REPPAS: Epeidh to antikeimeno ths synedriashs einai sygkekrimeno, qa kriqei an qa synedriasei apo to poso wrimh einai h katastash, oson afora to antikeimeno me to opoio qa asxolhqei to KYSEA.

KIAOS: Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete kai to antikeimeno kai thn wrimothta;

REPPAS: Gia ejoplismoys qa syzhthsei. Gia ti allo na syzhthsei to KYSEA;

KIAOS: Eipate "ean wrimasei h katastash gi` ayto to antikeimeno" kai efoson einai oi ejoplismoi, ti perimenete na "wrimasei";.

REPPAS: Sas parakalw poly. Sas eipa, xqes, oti qa sas enhmerwsw an qa ginei synedriash kybernhtikoy organoy thn Paraskeyh kai proxwrhsa, legontas pws isws synedriasei to KYSEA. Tonisa, akomh, oti ayto den prepei na to qewrhsete dedomeno, dhladh oti einai programmatismeno. Qa ejarthqei apo tis synergasies ayths ths ebdomadas.

SOYRMELIDHS: Mesa se mia hmera; H wrimothta apo ti ejartatai;

REPPAS: Den einai qema mias hmeras. Mexri thn Pempth einai treis oi hmeres. Parakalw mh dhmioyrgeite qema ek toy mh ontos.

KIAOS: Mia erwthsh dieykrinistikh. Eipate "an wrimasei h katastash" sxetika me to antikeimeno. Kai efoson einai oi ejoplismoi, ti perimenete na wrimasei gia na syzhthsei peri twn ejoplismwn;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasies ayth thn ebdomada. Qa enhmerwqei epi toy qematos aytoy kai an pragmatika eimaste sto shmeio ekeino poy prepei na laboyme apofaseis qa proxwrhsoyme sth synedriash toy organoy. Einai pragmatika qema...

KIAOS: Me sygxwreite poy epimenw. H wrimothta peri thn agora twn oplikwn systhmatwn h en genei twn ejoplismwn ejartatai apo to an qa einai mia hmera, dyo, treis, an perasei mia ebdomada, deka hmeres; Apo ti ejartatai; Ayto den to katalabainw. Eseis eipate an wrimasoyn.

REPPAS: Apo thn koinh logikh kai th nohmosynh twn politwn.

KIAOS: Mhn ermhneyete eseis thn koinh logikh.

REPPAS: Parakalw poly.

LAKOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy, moy epitrepete;

REPPAS: Mhn epimenete. Sas eipa xqes o,ti eixa na pw. Gnwrizete poly kala oti pantote, prin synedriasei kybernhtiko organo, prohgeitai synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton armodio h toys armodioys Ypoyrgoys, oi opoioi qa eishghqoyn analogws. Prin ginei ayth h synergasia kai prin h synergasia ayth katalhjei se sygkekrimenh "forma" den gnwrizoyme an qa synedriasei to organo. Den antilambanomai poios einai o problhmatismos kai h aporia.

LAKOPOYLOS: Mporw na rwthsw gi` ayto kati; Exei programmatistei gia ayrio synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo;

REPPAS: Exei programmatistei gia tis epomenes hmeres ayth h synanthsh.

KARAGIANNH: Thn Pempth, k. Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Malista, thn Pempth to meshmeri. Gi` ayto sas eipa, epeidh eipe o k. Soyrmelidhs "mia hmera", lew oti yparxei to shmera, yparxei h Tetarth, yparxei kai h Pempth.

PARIS: Shmera to prwi to Kogkreso enekrine thn pwlhsh twn dyo typwn pyraylwn "Patriot", to "xryso paketo" kai to "akribo paketo". An einai etsi opws plhroforoymai, to KYSEA opotedhpote kai an synedriasei, thn Paraskeyh, th Deytera h thn allh ebdomada, qa apofasisei eidika gi` ayto to systhma. To diaceydete ayto;

REPPAS: Prin ginei h synedriash kai prin lhfqei apofash apo thn Kybernhsh den prepei na qewreite tipota dedomeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Rwmaios exei ypobalei paraithsh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Den exei ypobalei opoiadhpote paraithsh o k. Rwmaios, peran ekeinhs thn opoia ypebale thn prwth hmera poy synanthqhke me ton Prwqypoyrgo, gia logoys eyaisqhsias kai eyqijias, h opoia den egine dekth. Den yparxei tipota allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, toy zhthse o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tipota allo.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me to Rwso ypoyrgo amynhs kai pote;

REPPAS: Den exei programmatistei kati tetoio, ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme. Synhqws, o Prwqypoyrgos dexetai, pantote, toys ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn allwn xwrwn, otan episkeptontai thn Ellada kai toys ypoyrgoys Amynas se kapoies periptwseis. Pisteyw oti se synennohsh kai me ton armodio Ypoyrgo, ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, qa katalhjoyn gia to pws qa ejelixqei h episkech toy Rwsoy epishmoy sthn Ellada.

FILHS: Poio kybernhtiko organo qa syzhthsei kai qa ektimhsei tis ejelijeis gyrw apo to Kossyfopedio en anamonh kai twn ektimhsewn toy NATO;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto eixe synergasia o Prwqypoyrgos me thn politikh hgesia twn Ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn kai Eqnikhs Amynas. H qesh thn opoia kai dhmosiws exoyme diatypwsei sas einai gnwsth kai einai safhs. Paramenoyme s' ayth th qesh. Den problepetai, aytes tis hmeres, synedriash alloy organoy. Alla, bebaiws, sto plaisio twn synergasiwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, ton k. Pagkalo kai ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo en prokeimenw, kai ayto to qema, analogws twn ejelijewn poy qa shmeiwqoyn aytes tis hmeres, qa einai antikeimeno syzhthshs.

FILHS: Qa einai antikeimeno kai toy KYSEA ean yparjei anagkh;

REPPAS: Einai kati to opoio den mporoyme na poyme ayth thn wra. Poly perissotero otan den mporoyme na poyme kathgorhmatika ean qa synedriasei to KYSEA.

KARAGIANNH: Epeidh ta teleytaia dyo eikositetrawra exei ginei orato to endexomeno na plhgoyn apo to NATO serbikoi stoxoi, se periptwsh poy zhthqei h symbolh mas, qa metexoyme; Poia qa einai h apanthsh mas se o, ti afora, kyriws, thn apostolh ellhnikwn aeroskafwn;

REPPAS: Apanthsa xqes, se sxetikh erwthsh, poy diatypwse h ka Soyrmelh. Sas parapempw s' ayth thn apanthsh.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, shmera h "AYRIANH" -bebaiws kai alles efhmerides- se prwtoselido qema anaferoyn oti NATOikoi ajiwmatikoi briskontai sth Qessalonikh, einai se etoimothta logw ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Einai alhqeia, symbainei kati tetoio, to limani einai se epifylakh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiadhpote epifylakh, den yparxei opoiadhpote kinhtopoihsh dynamewn. Gnwrizete oti eimaste sto stadio twn diaboyleysewn. Prin oloklhrwqoyn oi diaboyleyseis kai lhfqoyn oi apofaseis, einai prowro na poyme otidhpote allo.

KARAKWSTAS: Yparxei h plhroforia oti briskontai sth symprwteyoysa apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, NATOikoi ajiwmatoyxoi. Isxyei kati tetoio; Exei perielqei se gnwsh ths Kybernhshs kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Den exei opoiadhpote sxesh h katastash sto Kossyfopedio, h opoia einai krisimh kai to exoyme pei ayto, me kinhtopoihsh dynamewn h paroysia jenwn ajiwmatoyxwn sthn Ellada.

PARIS: Apo tis epafes stoys Delfoys kai thn thlefwnikh epikoinwnia poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Zospen, ton k. Srenter kai ton k. Pronti, ayth th stigmh h Kybernhsh ektima oti to endexomeno bombardismoy sth Gioygkoslabia apomakrynetai, nai h oxi;

REPPAS: Apanthsa gi` ayta ta qemata. Den einai wra na kanoyme ektimhseis kai ypoqeseis. Ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai, me ayjhmenh eyqynh, na symbaloyme wste na ektonwqei h entash sthn perioxh. Yparxei krish sto Kossyfopedio. Ta synnefa toy polemoy fainetai oti pyknwnoyn tis teleytaies hmeres. Me to qema ayto qa asxolhqoyn dieqneis organismoi. Gnwrizete oti, isws, thn Pempth qa brisketai stis Bryjelles h ka Olmprait, h opoia qa exei diaboyleyseis me Ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn twn xwrwn-melwn toy NATO. Qa anamenoyme ta apotelesmata aytwn twn diaboyleysewn. Mexri tote einai prowro na poyme o, tidhpote allo. Ayto to opoio epanalambanoyme, se kaqe periptwsh, einai h dikh mas prospaqeia -kai pisteyw oti den eimaste monoi s` ayto ton agwna- wste na ejantlhqoyn ta oria toy dialogoy kai ths synennohshs gia thn ejeyresh lyshs.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos, ap' o, ti mas eipate kai twra kai apo o, ti eipe kai o idios, exei epikoinwnhsei kat' epanalhch me Eyrwpaioys hgetes gia to qema toy Kossyfopedioy. Skeftetai na kanei kapoia analogh epikoinwnia kai me ton k. Milosebits, dedomenoy oti -opws eipate- h prwtoboylia ths Ellados den einai mia prwtoboylia proetoimasias polemikhs epixeirhshs, alla ystaths prospaqeias politikhs epilyshs toy qematos;

REPPAS: Exoyme steilei to mhnyma mas, mesw diplwmatikhs odoy, gia thn anagkh na epideixqei aytosygkrathsh kai cyxraimia ap' oles tis pleyres, na mh doqei aformh poy qa apotelesei to enaysma gia ena neo gyro exqroprajiwn sto Kossyfopedio. Pisteyoyme oti ayto to mhnyma exei lhfqei. Den problepetai opoiadhpote allh epikoinwnia, toylaxiston mexri twra. H Ellada qa kanei, pantws, otidhpote perna apo to xeri ths, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn ektonwsh ths krishs, xwris na xreiasqei na katafygoyme se analhch stratiwtikhs drashs.

FILHS: Kai ektimate oti to mhnyma poy esteile o Prwqypoyrgos ston k. Milosebits exei kai kapoia emprakth apanthsh;

REPPAS: Apo ta apotelesmata qa mporoyme na bgaloyme asfales symperasma.

KIAOS: Qelw na rwthsw an qa pragmatopoihqei, ayrio, h synedriash twn Ypoyrgwn Amynhs toy NATO kai an qa pane oi dikoi mas armodioi Ypoyrgoi.

REPPAS: Eipa oti den yparxei ayth h synergasia. Briskontai oloi se anamonh.

KIAOS: Qa paei o k. Pagkalos sth synedriash;

REPPAS: Den einai kati to opoio exei aposafhnistei, ayth thn wra. Einai kati to opoio qa to antimetwpisei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete oti o k. Pagkalos symmeteixe sth synedriash twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths E. E. Eixe epityxh, telika, ekbash ayth h synedriash gia qemata eqnikhs shmasias poy mas aforoyn idiaiterws -kai prepei na to poyme ayto- afoy h entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy, para ta empodia poy kapoioi prospaqhsan na parembaloyn, einai aproskopth, akwlyth. Ayto einai mia akomh epityxia thn opoia prepei na pistwsoyme sthn ejwterikh politikh ths Kybernhshs mas. Nomizw oti h synergasia, sto plaisio toy NATO -gia na epanelqw sto qema poy qetete, k. Kiao- brisketai isws ypo th skia twn diplwmatikwn kai politikwn prwtoboyliwn poy exoyn analhfqei, gia to pws qa antimetwpistei h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Fainetai oti kai to NATO anamenei ena politiko plaisio, prokeimenoy na entajei s` ayto, to endexomeno analhchs stratiwtikwn prwtoboyliwn apo th dikh toy pleyra. Qa doyme pws qa ejelixqoyn ta pragmata. Einai reysth h katastash. Mporoyme na poyme oti eimaste se mia periodo synexwn diaboyleysewn, gia liges hmeres, mexri na aposafhnistei poia einai h qesh poy exei o dieqnhs paragwn. Kai me thn ennoia ayth qewrw dieqnh paragonta, tis kybernhseis twn HPA, twn xwrwn ths E. E., twn xwrwn poy symmetexoyn sto NATO, twn xwrwn poy exoyn thn idiothta toy meloys toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Afoy, loipon, aposafhnistei h telikh qesh, nomizw oti qa gnwrizoyme poy pane ta pragmata. Ayth thn wra einai parakindyneymeno na poyme kati parapanw.

KIAOS: To politiko plaisio sto opoio anaferqhkate exei sxesh me to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE h oxi;

REPPAS: H qesh ayth poy diatypwnetai apo mas -kai oxi mono- einai oti prepei to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE na labei mia apofash, h opoia qa apotelesei kai th nomikh bash poy qa epitrecei sto NATO na analabei kapoia drasthriothta. Nomizw oti oi politikes diaboyleyseis oi opoies qa ginoyn kai thn Pempth -kai aytes fainetai oti exoyn koryfaia shmasia- qa orisoyn kai to plaisio entos toy opoioy qa kinhqei o dieqnhs paragontas. As meinoyme twra s' ayto.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: H qesh toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy, oti kalo einai o k. Milosebits na proselqei sthn Attaleia opoy na synanthqei kai me ton Albano Prwqypoyrgo, exei metabibastei apo thn Aqhna sto Beligradi;

REPPAS: Emeis pisteyoyme oti, sto plaisio ths Balkanikhs Diaskechs, prepei oloi oi hgetes twn xwrwn ths perioxhs, na laboyn meros, na synanthqoyn kai na antallajoyn apoceis gia ta problhmata poy mas apasxoloyn. O dromos ths epikoinwnias einai pantote kalyteros apo to dromo ths antiparaqeshs.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Ayto to exei metabibasei diplwmatika h ellhnikh pleyra sto Beligradi;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti organwths kai oikodespoths einai h kybernhsh ths Toyrkias. Emeis epiqymoyme -to leme dhmosiws kai pali- th symmetoxh olwn twn hgetwn twn xwrwn ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs, s` ayth th diaskech.

FILHS: O Prwqypoyrgos o opoios episkefthke xqes ton Peiraia, poia entypwsh exei apokomisei apo tis antidraseis, apo thn ypodoxh twn politwn, xqes, ekei;

REPPAS: Panta o Prwqypoyrgos noiwqei xara kai ikanopoihsh otan erxetai se epikoinwnia me polites. Poly perissotero otan erxetai se epikoinwnia me polites mias eklogikhs perifereias poy gia xronia ton anadeiknyei boyleyth.

FILHS: Apo thn epikoinwnia toy me ton k. Fwtioy, sterewqhke h pepoiqhsh toy oti o k. Fwtioy qa paei kala stis ekloges;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai Proedros enos Kinhmatos, to opoio me sygkekrimenes apofaseis exei prosdiorisei poioys syndyasmoys yposthrizei enocei twn nomarxiakwn kai dhmotikwn eklogwn. O k. Fwtioy, ws ypochfios dhmarxos toy Peiraia, exei to xrisma, opws leme, toy PASOK stis dhmotikes ekloges toy megaloy Limanioy. Oles oi dynameis toy PASOK, me prwto ton Prwqypoyrgo, dinoyn ayth th maxh.

KONTOPOYLOS: Mhpws to janaskefqhke o Prwqypoyrgos na paei, shmera, sthn ka Damanakh; Kanoyn syzhthseis stelexh toy epiteleioy ths gia to an qa parastei sth shmerinh sygkentrwsh

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