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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Oktwbrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada. En taxei, anaferomai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ayths ths ebdomadas.

* Shmera to meshmeri qa paraqesei geyma sthn hgesia twn ergazomenwn, sta Symboylia ths GSEE kai ths ADEDY, me thn paroysia armodiwn Ypoyrgwn.

To brady, stis 8 h wra, qa episkefqei ton Peiraia. Gnwrizete oti o k. Shmiths, metajy twn allwn, einai boyleyths Peiraia gia para polla xronia.

* Ayrio, Trith, exei programmatistei episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Layrio. Problepetai anaxwrhsh stis 11 p. m. ayrio, gia to Layrio. Qa episkefqei ekei th monada ths DEH, opws epishs qa dei ta erga poy exoyn ginei sthn perioxh kai exoyn allajei thn och toy Layrioy. To Layrio, liga xronia prin, htan me mayres shmaies, opws qymaste. Shmera me tis draseis poy exoyn anaptyxqei apo thn Kybernhsh h allagh pros to kalytero einai qeamatikh.

* Thn Tetarth to prwi, stis 9.30, qa synedriasei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, me thn eykairia ths neas synodoy. Den qa ginei typikh synedriash. Einai mia panhgyrikh sygklhsh ths K. O. Argotera, stis 11.30 p. m., o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei thn Yphresia toy Kthmatologioy, me ton armodio Ypoyrgo kai qa kanei sxetikes dhlwseis gi` ayto to shmantiko ergo. To meshmeri, stis 13.30, qa dexqei ton Proedro toy Dhmokratikoy Kommatos Kyproy k. Kyprianoy.

* Thn Pempth, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei kai qa synergastei, mazi me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Dioikhshs, me th Dioikoysa Epitroph toy ASEP.

* Thn Paraskeyh to apogeyma episkeptetai thn Ellada o Grammateas toy NATO k. Solana, o opoios qa ginei dektos apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Gia to endexomeno synedriashs kybernhtikoy organoy thn Paraskeyh to prwi, qa sas enhmerwsw tis epomenes hmeres. Xwris na einai bebaio, mporw na sas pw kat` arxhn oti einai piqanotato na synedriasei to KYSEA. Alla, gi` ayto qa sas enhmerwsw tis epomenes hmeres.

Ayta se genikes grammes. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, poso symbato einai me tis ws twra diakhryjeis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy PASOK, gia to xarakthra ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs kai tis apostaseis poy legate oti qa parete apo ton eklogiko agwna, pws symbadizei ayto me th shmerinh episkech dhladh me th symmetoxh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ston proeklogiko agwna;

REPPAS: Einai se apolyth armonia me tis dhlwseis poy exoyme kanei thn teleytaia periodo oti h Kybernhsh synexizei na einai paroysa. Asfalws, den qa adranhsoyme, epeidh eishlqame se proeklogikh periodo. Kaqe politikos paragontas exei ena idiaitero endiaferon gia thn perioxh, h opoia ton exei anadeijei. O k. Shmiths einai kai boyleyths Peiraia. Me ayth thn ennoia exei mia makra paroysia sta dhmosia pragmata toy megaloy limanioy. Exei ena idiaitero endiaferon na parakoloyqei apo konta ta problhmata toy Peiraia kai pws ayta antimetwpizontai. Sto plaisio aytoy toy eidikoy endiaferontos, qa einai apoce ston Peiraia. Den einai kati to opoio prepei na projenei entypwsh, oyte odhgei se taytish ths Kybernhshs me tis dhmotikes h nomarxiakes ekloges. Einai to idiaitero endiaferon poy deixnei gia thn eklogikh toy perifereia enas politikos paragontas poy shmera einai kai Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras. Ayto den ton akyrwnei ws boyleyth Peiraia kai den ton empodizei na parakoloyqei tis ejelijeis ston Peiraia, apo konta, opws ekane pantote mexri twra.

LAKOPOYLOS: Sto plaisio aytoy toy endiaferontos, den qa htan logiko na synanthqei me toys ypochfioys dhmarxoys;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti, opws oi boyleytes eklegontai basei twn apocewn poy ekqetoyn sto eklogiko swma kai gi` aytes chfizontai, etsi kai oi ypochfioi stis nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges diekdikoyn thn chfo toy laoy, epi th basei sygkekrimenoy programmatos. Kaqe politikos paragontas exei logo -ayto qa elega oti einai kai epibeblhmeno- na qewrei pws kapoio programma exei enan tetoio xarakthra, me ta osa perilambanei, poy mporei na odhghsei sth lysh twn problhmatwn mias perioxhs. O k. Shmiths, opws kai oloi mas, o kaqenas gia th dikh toy perioxh, exei apoch kai gi` ayto to qema kai ayth thn apoch, me symboliko tropo qa anadeijei kai apoce.

LAKOPOYLOS: Eidame pro ebdomadwn, h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh na metafrazetai apo to idio to PASOK, ws yposthrijh pros ton k. Lazaridh. Blepoyme twra thn episkech ston Peiraia na metafrazetai ws yposthrijh pros ton k. Fwtioy. Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean einai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres na probei kai se mia analogh episkech, sto Dhmo Aqhnaiwn, pros yposthrijh ths kas Damanakh.

REPPAS: Den xreiazetai na xrhsimopoihsoyme metafrastes gia na apokwdikopoihsoyme ta osa leme. Einai safes oti to PASOK, poy exei topoqethqei, edw kai arketo kairo, epi toy qematos sthrizei ws Kinhma sygkekrimenes ypochfiothtes, se olh th xwra, toso gia tis dhmotikes, oso kai gia tis nomarxiakes ekloges. O k. Shmiths einai proedros toy PASOK, den einai ejw apo ayto to plaisio yposthrijewn, tis opoies to Kinhma exei ekdhlwsei yper kapoiwn ypochfiwn. Ayto einai gnwsto, einai dedomeno, den einai kati kainoyrgio, gi` ayto akribws den exei nohma na to syzhtoyme parapera ayth thn wra.

LAKOPOYLOS: Problepetai kai kapoia synanthsh me thn ka Damanakh, kapoia symmetoxh toy ston eklogiko ths agwna;

REPPAS: Den problepetai kati tetoio sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Edwsa to plaisio, entos toy opoioy qa prepei na anazhthsete tis ermhneies gia thn paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, shmera, ston Peiraia.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Epeidh diatypwnontai apo diafores pleyres epikriseis sxetika me to baqmo symmetoxhs twn stelexwn toy PASOK ston proeklogiko agwna ths kas Damanakh, qa hqela, prwton, to sxolio sas ep` aytoy kai deyteron, an blepete ws Kybernhsh kapoio tropo gia na antistrafei ayto to klima.

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata ta opoia antimetwpizei to PASOK me ta organa kai ta stelexh, ta opoia exei kat` armodiothta orisei na parakoloyqoyn tis diadikasies se kaqe nomo kai se kaqe dhmo. Pisteyw oti ekei prepei na apeyqynqeite gia na exete mia leptomerh apanthsh. Oson afora twra th qesh ths Kybernhshs gia tis ekloges, th gnwrizete. Gia de th sygkekrimenh ypochfiothta, epishs einai safhs h qesh poy exoyme ekfrasei. H qesh ayth den allazei, paramenei h idia. H prospaqeia synexizetai, poly pio entona aytes tis teleytaies hmeres, gia ena epityxes apotelesma kai sto Dhmo ths Aqhnas.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sthn A' Aqhnas eklegontai 4 h 5 koryfaioi Ypoyrgoi ths Kybernhsews. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean h Kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo to baqmo symmetoxhs aytwn twn Ypoyrgwn ston proeklogiko agwna ths kas Damanakh.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti ayto to parakoloyqoyn ta armodia organa toy Kinhmatos. H Kybernhsh qa einai ikanopoihmenh, ean meta tis ekloges, oi syndyasmoi oi opoioi qa anadeixqoyn, me to programma toys, qa symbaloyn, wste na empedwqei ayth h nea antilhch sto xwro ths Aytodioikhshs, doqentos oti oi Kybernhseis toy PASOK einai aytes poy qesmoqethsan thn aireth nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh afenos, afeteroy proxwrhsan sthn organwtikh anadiarqrwsh twn Prwtobaqmiwn Organismwn Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, kaqenas o opoios epiqymei na symbalei, me to diko toy tropo, einai eleyqeros na to kanei. Kaqenas o opoios afistatai aytwn twn kaqhkontwn toy, kata thn krish kapoioy tritoy, qa kriqei gi` ayto. Ayto to opoio omws exei shmasia kai s` ayto prepei na meinoyme twra, einai toyto: To PASOK exei labei jekaqarh kai safh qesh yper sygkekrimenwn ypochfiwn se oles tis periptwseis kai yper aytwn twn ypochfiwn dinei, me oles tis dynameis toy, th maxh. Allwste, mias kai milame gia baqmo ikanopoihshs, qa sas pw kati poy kat` epanalhch exw pei me aformh th syzhthsh allwn qematwn: Pote den qa eimaste ikanopoihmenoi, giati pantote qa yparxei kati poy prepei akomh na kanoyme, gia na epityxoyme toys stoxoys mas. H prospaqeia einai ayth h opoia prepei na xarakthrizei th stash mas. H prospaqeia mas einai diarkhs kai entonh.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Epeidh to eklogiko apotelesma ths Kyriakhs qa to eisprajei h Kybernhsh, enw eseis eyfiws mas parapempete sto komma, qelw na sas rwthsw, an thn Kybernhsh den thn afora h poso thn afora ayth h ypoqesh. Einai mono qema toy kommatos an pente koryfaioi Ypoyrgoi den symmetexoyn ston proeklogiko agwna ths kas Damanakh;

REPPAS: Prwton, den prokyptei apo poyqena oti den symmetexoyn kapoia stelexh toy PASOK poy exoyn kai thn idiothta twn Ypoyrgwn s` ayth thn proeklogikh prospaqeia. Deyteron, h Kybernhsh exei eklegei to 1996 kai qa kriqei kai pali to 2000 gia to ergo ths. Oi ekloges gia th Nomarxiakh kai thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, asfalws, periexoyn to politiko mhnyma toys. Den kaqorizoyn, omws, thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. H Kybernhsh epidiwkei -to exoyme kat` epanalhch tonisei- se ena klima politikhs kai oikonomikhs staqerothtas, na synexisei kai na oloklhrwsei to ergo poy ths empisteyqhke o ellhnikos laos, prokeimenoy etsi na kriqei otan erqei h wra twn eqnikwn eklogwn, to Septembrio toy 2000. Mexri tote, bebaiws, polles anametrhseis, kai eklogikoy xarakthra, qa dwsoyme me tis dynameis mas, ws Kinhma. H Kybernhsh pantote ekfrazei ikanopoihsh otan ta apotelesmata -to eipa prin, allwste- odhgoyn sthn epikrathsh syndyasmwn poy exoyn ena programma me proodeytiko prosanatolismo gia na antimetwpizoyn ta problhmata kaqe perioxhs. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, den kamptetai h Kybernhsh sthn prospaqeia ths ayth, epeidh kapoioi qa ermhneysoyn ena eklogiko apotelesma me ena tetoio tropo o opoios, metajy twn allwn, qa ypodhlwnei kai amfisbhthsh ths Kybernhshs. Den prokyptei apo poyqena ayto twra, den qa prokycei kai meta thn anakoinwsh twn eklogikwn apotelesmatwn. Alla kai sth mia kai sthn allh periptwsh, parakalw na afhsete thn Kybernhsh aperispasth sto ergo ths. H Kybernhsh exei synaisqhsh twn eyqynwn ths. Eimaste se mia poly krisimh periodo. Deite ti ginetai sto dieqnes periballon. H oikonomikh krish ejaplwnetai. Anataraxh sta Balkania ekdhlwnetai kai pali me entono tropo. H Ellada einai mia xwra poy exei anagkh ayth th staqerothta. Kai h Kybernhsh prepei aperispasth na synexisei ayth thn prospaqeia ths. Kai ayto qa kanei.

SOYGLERHS: Sthn thleorash toy "MEGA" o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, gia to idio qema, nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges, eipe oti den krinontai ta kommata. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ti akribws mhnyma stelnoyn oi nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges, thn erxomenh Kyriakh kai thn meqepomenh, pros thn Kybernhsh kai pros to komma. Giati ginontai, ti nohma exoyn kai se ti qa odhghsoyn;

REPPAS: Oi ekloges ginontai gia na anadeixqoyn oi topikoi airetoi arxontes se prwtobaqmio h deyterobaqmio epipedo, prokeimenoy etsi na askhqoyn kata ton kalytero kai apotelesmatikotero tropo, yper twn politwn, oi armodiothtes poy exei ekxwrhsei h kentrikh ejoysia sta perifereiaka organa, wste na ginei kalyterh h zwh twn Ellhnwn poy zoyn sthn ellhnikh perifereia. Na anazwogonhqei h ellhnikh perifereia. Metaferqhkan armodiothtes. Metaferqhkan poroi. Oi polites exoyn th dynatothta na gnwrisoyn apo konta aytoys poy diekdikoyn thn chfo toys. Pisteyw oti qa eklejoyn toys kalyteroys kai pantws qa empisteyqoyn programmata, ta opoia exoyn ena proodeytiko prosanatolismo, giati me thn efarmogh aytwn twn programmatwn mporei na antimetwpistoyn kai ta problhmata poy toys apasxoloyn.

FILHS: Anaferqhkate sthn idiaiterh idiothta me thn opoia o k. Prwqypoyrgos phgainei apoce ston Peiraia. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an o k. Shmiths dieyrynei thn idiothta toy ws katoikoy toy dhmoy Aqhnaiwn kai an synepws aisqanetai, se mia maxh poy exei kai topiko xarakthra, oti o idios qa hqele ws katoikos toy dhmoy Aqhnaiwn, na symmetasxei se ekdhlwseis toy syndyasmoy ton opoio o idios epeleje kai o idios exei anakoinwsei oti enisxyei to PASOK.

REPPAS: Oi eklogeis ths eklogikhs perifereias Peiraia exoyn epi polla xronia ektimhsei tis dynatothtes kai tis apoceis toy k. Shmith, gi` ayto ton empisteyqhkan me th chfo toys na toys ekproswpei sth Boylh gia para polla xronia. Ayto, nomizw einai to kyrio krithrio. Apo ekei kai pera den qa prepei na anazhthsoyme stoixeia ta opoia exoyn kai ena xarakthra "entypwsioqhrias", prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme se politika symperasmata.

FILHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, epishs, an exete akoysei, an exete kapoio sxolio, gia th dhlwsh ths kas Papandreoy se kapoia synenteyjh ths sto "FLASH" oti h idia an htan sth qesh toy k. Rwmaioy kai antimetwpize to gnwsto problhma, thn tragwdia sthn odo Niobhs, qa eixe paraithqei.

REPPAS: H ka Papandreoy htan safhs. Prwta ap` ola den diatypwse opoiadhpote aixmh peri yparjhs politikwn eyqynwn. Apo ekei kai pera h ka Papandreoy eipe oti qa proebaine se mia tetoia prajh h idia. Ypenqymizw oti kai o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, o k. Rwmaios, ypebale thn paraithsh toy apo logoys eyaisqhsias kai eyqijias. H ka Papandreoy -kai ayto einai safes- kaqe allo para epidiwje na meiwsei thn paroysia kai to ergo toy k. Rwmaioy sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Einai allwste gnwstes se mas idiaiterws, kai se sas pisteyw, oi poly kales sxeseis poy exoyn ta dyo stelexh. Den exei na kanei me o, tidhpote to opoio na synista amfisbhthsh ths paroysias toy k. Rwmaioy sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, h qesh thn opoia ejefrase h ka Papandreoy.

SOYRMELH: Grafhke kapoy, oti h Ellada den qa symmetasxei se bombardismoys toy NATO, an ginoyn sto Kossobo, alla oti qa doqoyn ta aerodromia ths gia th xrhsh ayths ths apostolhs. Apodidontai se epishmes phges, to epibebaiwnete h to diaceydete; To deytero erwthma moy, exei sxesh me thn episkech toy Rwsoy Ypoyrgoy Amynas. Posh shmasia apodidei h Kybernhsh s` ayth thn episkech h opoia einai epishmh kai apo oti fainetai qa meinei arketo kairo kai qa dei kai alloys ektos apo ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo s` ayth thn episkech. Kai pote qa dei ton k. Shmith kai ton k. Pagkalo.

REPPAS: H episkech toy Rwsoy Ypoyrgoy Amynas einai ena shmantiko gegonos gia th xwra mas. H Rwsia einai mia megalh xwra. Epiqymoyme na exoyme stenh synergasia, se ola ta epipeda, me th megalh ayth xwra. To programma twn synanthsewn toy edw, ayth thn wra, den exei apolytws kaqoristei, pera twn epafwn poy qa exei me ton omologo toy Ellhna Ypoyrgo. Oson afora to qema toy Kossyfopedioy, ayth thn wra einai se ejelijh oi diaboyleyseis, sto plaisio dieqnwn organismwn, gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs, h opoia exei ekdhlwqei kai pali s` ayth thn perioxh. H Ellada exei jekaqarh qesh epi toy qematos. Epiqymoyme mesa apo dialogo kai synennohsh, me politikh lysh na antimetwpistei to problhma. Eimaste para poly epifylaktikoi sto endexomeno analhchs stratiwtikhs drashs. Asfalws, symmetexoyme sto NATO kai se alloys dieqneis organismoys, twn opoiwn oi apofaseis den mporoyn na agnohqoyn apo thn pleyra mas. Ayto to qema, to opoio antimetwpizoyn, twra, ypeyqyna oi dieqneis paragontes, pisteyoyme oti qa odhghsei sthn ejeyresh ths kalyterhs lyshs gia to kalo olwn twn pleyrwn poy emplekontai s` ayth thn krish. Pisteyoyme oti den prepei na xyqei allo aima sthn perioxh. Qa prepei oloi na deijoyn aytosygkrathsh kai cyxraimia. O dromos toy polemoy, einai enas dromos o opoios, akomh ki an sto baqos toy odhgei sthn epilysh problhmatwn, exei en tw metajy afairesei th zwh pollwn anqrwpwn. M` ayth thn ennoia, prepei na apofeygetai. Emeis epimenoyme sth qesh poy exoyme diatypwsei kai m` aythn proserxomaste stis diadikasies dieqnwn organwn sta opoia symmetexoyme.

ALEJAKH: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora ton Sorin Matei. Mhpws, 11 hmeres meta to epeisodio, exei h Kybernhsh kapoies perissoteres plhrofories poy qa mporoysan, isws, na diafwtisoyn ta qola shmeia ayths ths istorias; Kai h deyterh einai sxetikh me thn oikonomikh krish. Prohgoymenws, eipate oti yparxei mia dieqnhs oikonomikh krish. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an h Kybernhsh problhmatizetai ws pros tis oikonomikes kateyqynseis poy exei anakoinwsei mexri twra. Mhpws yparxei kapoios problhmatismos gia na allajei kati, na akoloyqhsoyme mia allh kateyqynsh, me aformh tis ejelijeis poy yparxoyn;

REPPAS: Oson afora to oikonomiko qema poy qesate, sas parapempw stis dhlwseis poy ekane, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos. Gnwrizete poies einai oi proteraiothtes poy exoyme qesei ws Kybernhsh. Einai eqnikhs shmasias stoxos h entajh ths xwras sthn ONE. Pisteyoyme oti h politikh poy akoloyqoyme odhgei sthn epiteyjh aytoy toy stoxoy. Epideiknyoyme thn aparaithth koinwnikh eyaisqhsia, prokeimenoy h entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE na einai h entajh olhs ths Elladas. Oloi oi polites, anejarthtws koinwnikhs tajhs kai epaggelmatos, na symmetexoyn s` aytes tis diadikasies ths eyrwpaikhs enopoihshs. Aytos einai o stoxos mas. Ayto epidiwkoyme kai filodojoyme na epityxoyme. Den exoyme apofasisei opoiadhpote allagh, doqentos oti den yparxei logos gia mia tetoia allagh, afoy mexri twra einai apotelesmatikh h poreia poy exoyme akoloyqhsei. Mas fernei poly konta, dhladh, s` ayton ton prwtarxikhs shmasias stoxo poy exoyme qesei. Oson afora to allo qema, ta organa poy epilambanontai twn ereynwn, den exoyn oloklhrwsei to ergo toys kai den exoyn probei se epishmes anakoinwseis. Katopin toytoy, parelkei na poyme ki emeis o, tidhpote allo sxetika. Mporw, omws, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, na anaferqw se ena peristatiko. Se thleoptiko programma akoysthke oti ychlobaqmoi ajiwmatikoi ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias episkefqhkan kapoia wra, xwris ayto na einai nomimo h epitrepto, ton qanonta, me apotelesma na diatypwnontai diafores eikasies gia to rolo poy epaije h episkech ayth sth moiraia katalhjh. Prepei na sas pw gia to qema ayto oti amesws o armodios Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, o k. Rwmaios, esteile epistolh ston eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, ton k. Dhmopoylo, me thn opoia toy zhta na anaqesei se eisaggelika organa poy ereynoyn thn ypoqesh, metajy twn allwn, na ereynhsoyn ejonyxistika kai ejantlhtika kai ayth thn ptyxh, h opoia eide to fws ths dhmosiothtas, gia na diapistwqei an antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia h oxi. H amesh ayth antidrash toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy, deixnei anaglyfa to endiaferon mas na lamcei h alhqeia, opws eipame apo thn prwth stigmh. S` ayth thn kateyqynsh qa kinhqoyme mexri teloys, oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema.

FILHS: O k. Rwmaios, ws politika ypeyqynos ths Astynomias, gnwrizei an yphrje h oxi to peristatiko ayto; An oi dyo anwteroi astynomikoi, opws grafetai, episkefqhkan ton Sorin Matei, prin o idios exei to moiraio telos;

REPPAS: O k. Rwmaios den gnwrizei na exei ginei tetoia episkech, giati apo poyqena den prokyptei ayto. Gi` ayto, akribws, aneqese ston armodio eisaggeliko leitoyrgo na epilhfqei toy qematos, gia na mhn yparxei h paramikrh ypocia oti ginetai prospaqeia sygkalychs enos gegonotos poy mporei na htan kaqoristiko gia th tyxh ths zwhs toy kakopoioy. Emeis, pisteyoyme oti ta panta prepei na doqoyn sth dhmosiothta, afoy oloklhrwqei h ereyna. Kai na eiste sigoyroi oti qa fwtistoyn oles oi ptyxes ayths ths epixeirhshs, se ola ta stadia ths, prokeimenoy na apodoqoyn eyqynes, an yparxoyn, ekei poy yparxoyn.

FILHS: Paremferws kyrie Ypoyrge: Proxqes, gnwstopoihqhke to porisma ths ereynas poy dienhrghse o Anteisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy -meta kai apo entolh toy k. Giannopoyloy- sxetika me to rolo poy diadramatise o paristamenos Antieisaggeleas Prwtodikwn k. Sakas sto aimathro makeleio. Apo to porisma, opws gnwrizete, prokyptoyn eyqynes gia thn Astynomia. Den prokyptoyn eyqynes -antiqetws, malista- gia ton k. Saka. H Kybernhsh exei na kanei kapoio sxolio gia to gegonos oti thn eyqynh gia thn ektelesh ths epixeirhshs den thn eixe, opws prokyptei kai apo to dikastiko porisma, o epikefalhs -symfwna me to nomo- ths epixeirhshs k. Sakas, alla h Astynomia xwris na enhmerwsei kai erhmhn toy k. Eisaggelea;

REPPAS: Giati olh ayth h analysh, gia na kanete mia erwthsh kai na mas peite oti apo to porisma prokyptei oti exei eyqynes h Astynomia kai ola ta alla sxetika, ta opoia eipate; Prwta ap' ola o Antieisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy, k. Zaboleas eixe sygkekrimenh entolh na dienerghsei ereyna gia na diapistwqei an exei eyqynes kata thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn toy o sygkekrimenos eisaggelikos leitoyrgos, o k. Sakkas. Ekane thn ereyna kai katelhje s' ayth thn ekqesh-porisma, poy gnwrizete kai eseis. Den apodidei eyqynes ston eisaggeliko leitoyrgo. Kalo einai, eyxaristo einai. Dioti oi eisaggelikoi leitoyrgoi kalo einai na leitoyrgoyn sto plaisio twn kaqhkontwn toys. Apo kei kai pera, h ereyna oson afora tis eyqynes twn astynomikwn organwn den exei oloklhrwqei. Qa anamenete kai eseis, opws kai emeis thn oloklhrwsh ths, prokeimenoy na eimaste pio kathgorhmatikoi sth diatypwsh twn symperasmatwn mas. Parakalw, loipon, ayth thn wra, na apofygoyme ayton ton kathgorhmatiko tono kai na arkestoyme se kapoies ypoqeseis oi opoies, bebaiws, mporei kai prepei na ginontai, alla mhn toys prosdidoyme ena xarakthra telikoy symperasmatos, giati tetoio porisma den exei ejaxqei.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o armodios Antieisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy, epibebaiwnei, meta apo ereyna, oti o k. Sakas -poy kata to nomo eprepe na einai o epikefalhs na dwsei thn entolh gia na yparjei astynomikh epixeirhsh, poy katelhje sto gnwsto aimathro fiasko- den einai ekeinos poy edwse thn entolh. Poios thn edwse; O Ypoyrgos Typoy; Oxi, bebaia! Oi paristamenoi ajiwmatikoi ths EL. AS.

REPPAS: Ara kata th gnwmh sas den yparxei logos na oloklhrwqei h ereyna poy kanei allos eisaggelikos leitoyrgos gia thn eyqynh poy exoyn ta stelexh ths Astynomias.

FILHS: Allo erwtw.

REPPAS: Ma, ekei odhgeite me to symperasma to opoio bgazete.

FILHS: Sto plaisio ayths ths enhmerwshs eixan afeqei aixmes ws pros to rolo toy paristamenoy Eisaggelea, toy k. Saka. Aytes oi aixmes, shmera, den yfistantai, an dextoyme oti to porisma exei mia egkyrothta.

REPPAS: Kamia aixmh apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs den diatypwqhke enanti opoioydhpote. H Kybernhsh krathse oydeterh stash. Breqhke se apostash ap' oles aytes tis ekdoxes kai eipe kat' epanalhch oti anamenei thn oloklhrwsh twn ereynwn gia na gnwrisoyme oloi pws exei ejelixqei ayth h epixeirhsh. Tipote allo den akoysthke apo th dikh mas pleyra, se antiqesh me ta osa kata kairoys diatypwqhkan apo alloys gia eyqynes poy exoyn diaforoi paragontes oi opoioi amesws h emmesws eneplakhsan s' ayth thn epixeirhsh. Kai ayto prepei na afhsoyme na to poyn me to diko toys egkyro tropo oi armodies arxes poy epilambanontai aytwn twn ereynwn.

LAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mia dieykrinish, parakalw giati to qema einai krisimo: Apantwntas, prohgoymenws, sthn erwthsh gia th xqesinh ekpomph toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy, eipate oti diejagetai ereyna me entolh toy k. Rwmaioy, oti o k. Rwmaios parakalese ton Areio Pago na dienerghsei ereyna. Epeidh eida th sygkekrimenh ekpomph, ayto poy afhne safws na ennohqei einai oti dyo ajiwmatikoi -anwteroi kata pasa piqanothta- den ton episkefqhkan, epaijan to rolo "xaroy", ton kaqarisan dhladh...

REPPAS: Ayto den eipa egw molis prin;

LAKOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite. Qelete na mas peite oti h Kybernhsh den einai sigoyrh oti den eginan etsi ta pragmata h oti yparxei, kai mia poly mikrh piqanothta na synebh kati tetoio;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den qewrei wfelimo kai xrhsimo na pei ti pisteyei h idia, na diatypwsei tis dikes ths apoceis gia ena qema to opoio ereynatai. H Kybernhsh, me aisqhma eyqynhs, perimenei thn oloklhrwsh twn ereynwn kai qa sebastei to opoio porisma ejaxqei meta thn oloklhrwsh twn ereynwn apo tis armodies arxes.

LAKOPOYLOS: Kratate apostash;

REPPAS: Apo ola kratame apostash. Tipota den apokleioyme. Sas eipa ti einai ayto to opoio gnwrizoyme. Den sas eipa ti einai ayto poy pisteyoyme, giati den dikaioymaste, ayth thn wra, na eikotologoyme. Ayto to opoio kanoyme emeis, einai, me etoimothta, na antidroyme amesws, otan prokyptei kapoio neo qema prokeimenoy na einai plhreis oi ereynes oi opoies ginontai gia to sygkekrimeno ayto symban, wste na lamcei h alhqeia.

XAN: Kyrie Ypoyrge, aytes tis meres yparxei mia entash metajy Toyrkias kai Syrias. Kai malista, h Toyrkia apeilei me polemo th Syria. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti oles oi xwres, oles oi dynameis ths perioxhs qa prepei na symbaloyn, wste na empedwqei ena klima staqerothtas kai asfaleias. Lypoymaste giati o rolos arketwn xwrwn den einai epoikodomhtikos. H Toyrkia, sygkekrimena, sto plaisio twn ellhno-toyrkikwn sxesewn, kat' epanalhch dynamitizei kaqe prospaqeia gia th dhmioyrgia enos tetoioy klimatos. Pisteyoyme oti xreiazetai kalh pisth, politikh epikoinwnia kai synennohsh gia thn antimetwpish twn opoiwn problhmatwn, me bash, bebaiws, toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai me thn epideijh diaqeshs kalhs geitonias. H gewgrafia einai dedomenh kai oydeis mporei na allajei ta gewgrafika dedomena. Afoy qa zhsoyme se ayth thn perioxh toy kosmoy ws eqnh kai ws laoi, qa prepei na epidiwkoyme kales, filikes sxeseis, sxeseis synergasias. Ayto einai to mhnyma, to opoio stelnoyme, gia mia akomh fora shmera, giati blepoyme oti sthn perioxh mas pane na dhmioyrghqoyn esties entashs. Kai qa prepei sth genesh toys aytes tis esties na tis antimetwpisoyme, giati mporei na anaptyxqoyn anejelegkta kai na odhghqoyme se tragika apotelesmata. Elpizw oti h krish poy fainetai na dhmioyrgeitai den qa exei peraiterw epideinwsh. Kai elpizw na epanelqoyme se ena klima hremias sthn perioxh.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, treis meres prin apo thn Attaleia erxetai o k. Solana sthn Aqhna. Me dikh toy prwtoboylia erxetai;

REPPAS: Me dikh toy prwtoboylia. Htan ena programmatismeno tajidi sthn perioxh. Synepese na pragmatopoieitai liges hmeres prin apo th Diaskech poy ginetai sthn Attaleia.

POYLIDOY: Kai to deytero erwthma: Exei ginei apo to kalokairi kai meta kapoia synanthsh metajy twn Monimwn Antiproswpwn toy NATO stis Bryjelles sxetika me ton stratiwtiko dialogo; Proxwraei ayto to pragma;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti me thn epopteia toy Grammatea toy NATO, oi ekproswpoi twn dyo xwrwn antimetwpizoyn ayto to qema, to opoio omws den exei kapoia tetoia ejelijh h opoia na apotelei ena kainoyrgio dedomeno. Gnwrizete poly kala oti to periexomeno ayths ths diadikasias den didetai sth dhmosiothta. Yparxei mia epikoinwnia me ayto to antikeimeno kai mono.

POYLIDOY: Den katalaba. Arneiste na moy apanthsete an exei ginei synanthsh toy k. Sabaidh me ton k. Oimen;

REPPAS: O k. Sabaidhs me ton k. Oimen ypo thn epopteia toy k. Solana antimetwpizoyn ayto to qema. Eipa prin -kai epanalambanw- oti gnwrizete poly kala pws to periexomeno ayths ths synergasias den exei apotelesei antikeimeno dhmosias syzhthshs. Einai kati to opoio epiqymei o k. Solana, epiqymoyn kai oi dyo pleyres. Gi' ayto akribws h synergasia toys paramenei s' ayto to epipedo.

SOYRMELH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, egw den eimai idiaitera eyfyhs, wste na katalabw ayth thn ermhneia twn epiqesewn. An o mh genoito loipon, ginei to apeyktaio, qa mporoysa na ermhneysw egw th dhlwsh sas -kai na thn ermhneysw swsta- an qewrhsw oti h Ellada den qa symmetasxei s' ayth thn periptwsh, wste na parasxei bohqeia sto NATO, stis egkatastaseis toy, poy exei mesa sth xwra; Qa to ermhneya swsta;

REPPAS: H Ellada proserxetai se mia synergasia, se mia diaboyleysh gia na diatypwsei tis apoceis ths, na epixeirhsei na peisei toys alloys h kai na peistei, an anaptyxqoyn apo thn allh pleyra logika epixeirhmata. Ayth thn wra poy h diaboyleysh ayth den exei oloklhrwqei, den einai xrhsimo na diatypwsoyme, ek twn proterwn, me kaqe leptomereia oles tis apoceis mas. Giati tote qa exoyme akyrwsei thn ajia kai to nohma ayths ths diaboyleyshs. Perimenoyme, loipon, na oloklhrwqoyn aytes oi syzhthseis. Emeis qa prajoyme o, ti prepei, prokeimenoy na symbaloyme wste na ektonwqei h krish sthn perioxh kai na antapokriqoyme stis ypoxrewseis mas.

Eyxaristw poly.

* Antiqeta ap` o, ti anakoinwqhke kata th diarkeia toy "mprifingk", to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK den qa synedriasei thn erxomenh Pempth.

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