Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-07-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati dinete ta lefta stis sygkoinwnies kai den ta dinete se Nosokomeia kai sxoleia;

REPPAS: Yparxei mia parejhghsh. Den dinontai lefta stis sygkoinwnies. To programma gia thn ejygiansh twn Astikwn Sygkoinwniwn qa apofasistei kai qa anakoinwqei, sto synolo toy, peri to telos toy mhna. Ena megalo meros twn oikonomikwn barwn, twn ypoxrewsewn poy exoyn oi astikes sygkoinwnies, afora logistikes diafores. Proerxetai, dhladh, apo prosayjhseis kai anatokismoys, logw palaiwn daneiwn poy eixe labei o OASA. H politikh ths Kybernhshs mas, opws kat' epanalhch exei anakoinwqei, exei ena koinwniko xarakthra. Epiqymoyme na diathrhqei se xamhla epipeda h timh toy eisithrioy stis astikes sygkoinwnies gia koinwnikoys logoys. Gi ayto akribws dhmioyrgoyntai se megalo baqmo elleimmata stis astikes sygkoinwnies. Emeis prepei na kalycoyme ayth th diafora. To Dhmosio, prosferontas thn eggyhsh toy, eixe epitrecei ston OASA na probei sth synach daneiwn. Aytes tis ypoxrewseis tis analambane, katopin, to Dhmosio kai prepei na antapokriqei s' aytes. To shmantiko einai oti h analhch aytwn twn ypoxrewsewn den einai ena spasmwdiko h memonwmeno metro. Entassetai sto plaisio mias syndyasmenhs drashs, mias desmhs metrwn poy analambanoyme gia thn ejygiansh toy OASA:

* Problepetai allagh toy kanonismoy toy proswpikoy, me allagh, kata synepeia, stis ergasiakes sxeseis, prokeimenoy na meiwqei to ergatiko kostos.

* Problepetai seira diarqrwtikwn-dioikhtikwn allagwn gia na beltiwqei h leitoyrgia toy Organismoy kai na beltiwqoyn oi prosferomenes yphresies pros toys polites.

* Kai panw apo ola, ayto to opoio exei shmasia -giati panta o poliths prepei na einai aytos poy qa ejyphreteitai- oi astikes sygkoinwnies qa prepei na syndeqoyn perissotero, sthn prooptikh toys, me toys Organismoys Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, wste o programmatismos kai h leitoyrgia toys na antapokrinetai stis anagkes twn kata topoys plhqysmwn. To programma ayto einai programma ejygianshs. Se ayto to programma ejygianshs, meletoyme kai thn analhch twn ypoxrewsewn poy exoyn sysswreytei edw kai arketa xronia. Den exei kamia sxesh to programma gia thn ejygiansh twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn me to programma twn metoxopoihsewn poy akoloyqeitai se alles periptwseis. Periptwseis opoy epiqymoyme thn eisroh ygiwn porwn, idiwtikwn kefalaiwn, se epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy. Kai oi poroi aytoi einai aparaithtoi gia ton eksygxronismo twn epixeirhsewn toy Dhmosioy. Nomizw oti oloi symfwnoyn, para to oti den einai eyxaristo na yparxoyn elleimmata se enan Organismo, pws oi astikes sygkoinwnies prepei na leitoyrgoyn, metajy twn allwn, kai me ena koinwniko xarakthra. Na parexoyn, dhladh, tis yphresies toys stoys polites me xamhlo antitimo, prokeimenoy na ejyphretoyntai, kyriws, oi ergazomenoi, giati aytoi xrhsimopoioyn ta mazika mesa metaforas, tis astikes sygkoinwnies en prokeimenw.

MIXAHL: H Kybernhsh, k. Ypoyrge, exei thn kalh proqesh -opws toylaxiston emfanisthke, xqes, o k. Papantwnioy kai shmera o k. Mantelhs se diafora radiofwna- na balei, kapoia stigmh, tajh stis astikes sygkoinwnies. To kratos, omws, epibarynetai me 800 peripoy dis draxmes, afoy apaleifetai to xreos. Qelw na rwthsw, ean kanate laqos ws komma kai ws boyleytes toy PASOK, otan o k. Mhtsotakhs eixe prospaqhsei, me enan allo tropo ki aytos na balei tajh stis sygkoinwnies -etsi toylaxiston elege- kai den xarise h den xarise tosa posa.

REPPAS: Oxi mono den epexeirhse na balei kapoia tajh, alla epexeirhse kai petyxe na paradwsei bora sta idiwtika symferonta tis astikes sygkoinwnies, me apotelesma na ayjhqoyn ta elleimmata. H katastash poy dhmioyrghse h politikh poy akoloyqhse h Kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, metajy twn allwn, xarakthrizotan gia ta ychla elleimmata stis astikes sygkoinwnies. Ayta ta elleimmata klhqhke na antimetwpisei h dikh mas Kybernhsh me isorropo tropo. Epeidh den epiqymoyme na ayjhqei h timh toy eisithrioy, petyxame na leitoyrgoyn kalytera oi astikes sygkoinwnies, na ejyphreteitai o kosmos. Para tayta, omws, ta elleimmata ta opoia dhmioyrgoyntai den mporoyn na mas afhsoyn adiaforoys. Kai sas eipa oti einai se megalo baqmo logistikes eggrafes, einai logistika ta xreh ayta. Prepei na to antimetwpisoyme, den eimaste, omws, diateqeimenoi na ta epilysoyme apokommena, memonwmena. Alla analambanoyme -sto plaisio enos plhroys programmatos- syntonismenh drash, h opoia ekteinetai kai se alles prwtoboylies stis opoies anaferqhka synoptika. Ayto to opoio prepei na einai safes, einai toyto: Den prokeitai sto mellon -para to oti epiqymoyme stis astikes sygkoinwnies na parameinei to eisithrio se ayta ta xamhla epipeda -apo ton kratiko proypologismo na xrhmatodothqoyn drasthriothtes h yphresies, oi opoies einai dapanhres kai den exoyn koinwniko xarakthra. Den prokeitai, dhladh, na kolakeysoyme leitoyrgies, oi opoies paragoyn kainoyrgia elleimmata h na eynohsoyme drasthriothtes ayths ths epixeirhshs, poy einai draxmobores. Epiqymoyme na ejyphreteitai o poliths. Ayto qa to epityxoyme an, metajy twn allwn, antimetwpisoyme kai ta elleimmata poy exoyn shmera oi astikes sygkoinwnies, wste na jekinhsoyme apo mhdenikh bash. Einai ypoxrewsh mas na to kanoyme. Qa to kanoyme me sxediasmeno tropo, prokeimenoy na mhn yparxei h paramikrh yponoia, oti dhqen to metro ayto den stoxeyei se tipote allo, para sthn ejyphrethsh mias proskairhs anagkhs, mias diagrafhs xrewn h analhchs xrewn apo to Dhmosio, gia opoioysdhpote alloys logoys poy den exoyn sxesh me thn ejygiansh aytoy toy Organismoy. Milame gia ena programma ejygianshs twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn, sto plaisio toy programmatos poy exoyme gia thn ejygiansh kai tis diarqrwtikes allages sto dhmosio tomea.

MIXAHL: Me poia exeggya qa ginei ayto; Giati me thn idia logikh, qa sas elega ki egw poly apla, ws poliths, to 1993 phrate mia xrewmenh epixeirhsh Astikwn Sygkoinwniwn apo th Nea Dhmokratia, opws lete. Den kanate tipota kai ftasate meta apo pente xronia, me arketa elleimmata, na lete twra oti ta xarizete. Me poia exeggya, loipon, den qa janaginoyn nea elleimmata kai poies eggyhseis dinete oti oi anadiarqrwseis sto dioikhtiko mhxanismo toys kai sthn organwsh twn sygkoinwniwn qa einai tetoies poy den qa einai draxmobores;

REPPAS: Xairomai, an h monh kathgoria, h opoia apeyqynetai pros thn Kybernhsh, einai h kathgoria oti arghse na analabei aytes tis draseis. Pisteyw oti h prwtoboylia ths Kybernhshs mas briskei oloys symfwnoys. Allwste, h kritikh poy diatypwnetai kai apo alles pleyres den blepw na einai epi ths oysias. Ayto to opoio prepei na sygkrathsete einai toyto: Gia prwth fora, isws, sto plaisio twn Astikwn Sygkoinwniwn, alla kai se alles dhmosies epixeirhseis yparxei oloklhrwmeno kai sygkekrimeno sxedio gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn mias ekasths epixeirhshs. Ena problhma to opoio den mporei pleon na mas afhsei adiaforoys. To programma ayto ejygianshs qa efarmostei me th symfwnh gnwmh -ayto epiqymoyme- twn ergazomenwn se kaqe dhmosia epixeirhsh. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh eyelpistoyme oti, ews to telos toy mhna, qa eimaste se qesh na anakoinwsoyme me leptomereies ayto to programma ejygianshs, to opoio qa ekfrazei kai th boylhsh twn ergazomenwn na symbaloyn sthn koinh kateyqynsh gia thn ejygiansh kai thn anabaqmish aytoy toy dhmosioy forea. Ayta einai ta dyo stoixeia: a) Oti yparxei programma plhres kai sygkekrimeno. b) Oti yparxei h boylhsh, peran apo thn pleyra ths Politeias, kai apo thn pleyra twn ergazomenwn, na symbaloyn symfwnwntas s` ena programma gia thn ejygiansh toy Organismoy aytoy. Ayto einai kati to opoio den prepei na to parablepoyme.

ALEJAKH: Eipate oti yparxoyn ta exeggya, wste na mhn yparxoyn sto mellon elleimmata, an ki egw den katalaba poia akribws einai ta exeggya. Me poio tropo qa ejasfalisete, afoy xarisate ayto to poson, thn kalyterh ejyphrethsh twn politwn; Giati milhsate gia ena programma, to opoio den exei oloklhrwqei akomh.

REPPAS: To programma ayto qa anakoinwqei peri to telos toy mhna kai qa perilambanei to synolo twn drasewn poy analambanoyme gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn stis Astikes Sygkoinwnies. Pisteyoyme oti, meta th synergasia me toys ergazomenoys, to programma ayto qa ekfrazei thn koinh qelhsh olwn twn pleyrwn, prokeimenoy na ejygianqoyn oi Astikes Sygkoinwnies. Ayth einai h megalyterh eggyhsh gia to oti, apo edw kai pera, den qa epanalhfqoyn laqh toy parelqontos. Ara, mporoyme na aisiodojoyme oti h katastash poy diamorfwnetai stis Astikes Sygkoinwnies dhmioyrgei mia qetikh prooptikh, pws kai oi prosferomenes yphresies pros ton polith qa einai poly kalyteres, alla kai h oikonomikh leitoyrgia aytoy toy Organismoy qa einai apodotikoterh.

ALEJAKH: Pantws, k. Ypoyrge, na me sygxwresete kai to lew me poly kalh diaqesh, den exw katalabei poia einai ta exeggya gia na mhn ayjhqoyn ta elleimmata sto mellon kai, epishs, den katalaba me poion tropo oi polites qa ejyphretoyntai kalytera. Katalaba monon oti yparxei ena programma kai oti qa ginei meiwsh proswpikoy -an den kanw laqos- alla tis leptomereies, toylaxiston, gia ta elleimmata den tis katalaba.

REPPAS: Ara, loipon, einai ena qema to opoio paramenei anoikto pros syzhthsh. Qa sas kalesw na epanelqete otan anakoinwsoyme to programma, prokeimenoy na labete plhreis apanthseis se opoies amfibolies h erwthmatika paramenoyn akomh s` esas. Pisteyw, omws, oti ta dyo ayta nea stoixeia einai ikana ws krithria kai prepei na ta labete ypoch sas. Peiqoyn, dhladh, gia thn aisiodojh prooptikh poy diagrafetai kai gia tis Astikes Sygkoinwnies. Prwton, plhres kai sygkekrimeno programma kai deyteron, symfwnia me toys ergazomenoys kai apo koinoy analhch drashs, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata stis Astikes Sygkoinwnies. Einai kati kainoyrgio, ayto ginetai gia prwth fora kai dikaiologeitai kaqe aisiodojia gia thn epityxia toy egxeirhmatos poy jekiname.

ANTWNOPOYLOY: O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn se mia syzhthsh poy eixe sto R/S FLAS me ton k. Androylakh, diatypwse th qesh oti to onoma Makedonia-Skopia ws gewgrafikos prosdiorismos, opws eipe, qa htan mia kalh lysh gia to qema ayto. Ayth einai h telikh qesh ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: To qema ayto syzhteitai ypo thn aigida toy OHE. Thn parakoloyqhsh twn syzhthsewn, metajy twn dyo xwrwn, exei analabei -opws gnwrizete- o k. Bans. Den apotelei qema to opoio mporei na syzhthqei se dimeres epipedo. Pisteyoyme oti, enw paramenei anoikto, ws problhma, ayto to qema, prepei na synexisoyme tis prospaqeies gia th beltiwsh twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Emeis, exoyme kataqesei tis apoceis mas. Exoyme mia epoikodomhtikh kai paragwgikh proseggish sto qema ayto. Epiqymoyme kai h allh pleyra na deijei analogh diaqesh, prokeimenoy na arqei kai to teleytaio empodio gia thn peraiterw sysfigjh sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Den to exei kanei to geitoniko kratos mexri twra. Pisteyoyme oti h hgesia toy qa brei to qarros kai qa deijei analogh boylhsh, wste na symbalei na jeperastei ayto to problhma. Ola ta alla, ta opoia syzhtoyntai apoteloyn problhmatismoys. H politikh mas, omws, den exei allajei. Einai gnwsth s` esas kai me ayth thn politikh exoyme proselqei stis syzhthseis poy diejagontai ypo ton k. Bans.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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