Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-07-09

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Ayth thn wra synedriazei, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h Politikh Grammateia me dieyrymenh morfh. Antikeimeno ths synedriashs einai h prowqhsh twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn. Ek meroys ths Politikhs Grammateias symmetexoyn o Grammateas ths K. E. toy PASOK K. Skandalidhs, ta melh toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy K. Laliwths, Basw Papandreoy, G. Papandreoy kai oi Ypoyrgoi Al. Papadopoylos, Giannos Papantwnioy, M. Papaiwannoy, T. Mantelhs, kaqws kai o oikonomikos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy T. Giannitshs. Den symmetexoyn, logw apoysias toys sto ejwteriko, oi Ap. Kaklamanhs kai Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos. H synedriash ayth ginetai anti ths programmatismenhs koinhs synedriashs ths Politikhs Grammateias kai ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Ws ek toytoy to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio den qa synedriasei ayrio.

Mporw, epishs, na sas pw -enhmerwnontas sas apo twra gia to programma ths epomenhs ebdomadas- oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei th Leykada opoy qa ekfwnhsei logo to Sabbato (18/7) to brady. Thn Kyriakh (19/7) to prwi qa episkefqei thn perioxh Rioy-Antirrioy opoy prokeitai na kataskeyastei h gefyra zeyjhs twn dyo polewn. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARASABBA: Mhpws, mporeite na mas dwsete perissoteres leptomereies gia th synanthsh Tsoxatzopoyloy-Koen; Ti kainoyrgio yparxei, oysiastika, apo thn amerikanikh pleyra; Exei apofasisei, dhladh, h Amerikh na epixeirhsei ayto to "non-fly zone";

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h episkech ayth ginetai sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn. Den exei prokycei kati, to opoio na apotelei allagh stis qeseis, tis opoies exei diatypwsei gia qemata poy mas aforoyn h kybernhsh twn HPA. Opws, epishs, gnwrizete poia einai h politikh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs. Den exei prokycei o, tidhpote, to opoio na synista allagh ayths ths politikhs. Ginetai mia antallagh apocewn gia qemata ths perioxhs. Poly perissotero, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn twn dyo ypoyrgwn, syzhthqhkan qemata poy aforoyn to ejoplistiko programma ths xwras mas, to opoio einai se ejelijh. Antallaxqhkan apoceis, bebaiws, gia tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, gia thn katastash sthn eyryterh perioxh twn Balkaniwn, gia to Kypriako qema. Den yparxei opoiadhpote allh ejelijh.

KARASABBA: Yparxoyn, omws, thlegrafhmata ta opoia, peran apo tis anafores gia Ellhnes ajiwmatoyxoys, oi opoioi miloyn gia para poly shmantikh ejelijh, anaferoyn oti kai h Amerikh milaei gi` ayto to qema. Dhladh, zhtw kai pali, ti to kainoyrgio yparxei; Ti prosferetai apo thn Amerikh sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Den perimenoyme opoiadhpote prosfora apo tis HPA pros thn Ellada. Ayto to opoio anamenoyme einai opoioi exoyn ekdhlwsei endiaferon na asxolhqoyn me qemata ths perioxhs, to eilikrines endiaferon toys na to metaferoyn sthn prajh, askwntas thn epirroh toys kyriws sthn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na yparxei ejelijh se qemata ta opoia paramenoyn se stasimothta edw kai para polla xronia. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h episkech ayth htan apo kairo programmatismenh. Einai mia episkech poly shmantikh, giati doqhke h dynatothta stoys ekproswpoys twn dyo kybernhsewn na syzhthsoyn shmantika qemata. Kai to ejoplistiko programma einai gia mas ena poly shmantiko qema, enocei twn synqhkwn poy exoyn dhmioyrghqei ta teleytaia xronia sthn perioxh me th symperifora ths Toyrkias. Alla, bebaiws, kai h antallagh politikwn apocewn gia ta shmantika qemata ths perioxhs, exei kai ayth thn idiaiterh shmasia ths. Den exei prokycei otidhpote allo. To qema ths zwnhs apagoreyshs pthsewn sthn Kypro, einai mia idea poy exei diatypwqei apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Exei syzhthqei, alla den yparxei opoiadhpote proodos, doqentos oti h Toyrkia exei mia apolyta arnhtikh stash.

KARASABBA: O k. Koen, omws, milhse gia kapoioys mhxanismoys meiwshs entashs. Poioi einai aytoi;

REPPAS: Gi` ayta qa sas apanthsei o k. Koen h ekproswpos toy.

PARIS: Oson afora thn ereyna sthn Astynomia, ap` o, ti anaferoyn ta dhmosieymata ston Typo -kai apo to reportaz- to pragma pairnei poly megales diastaseis. Qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Ejakoloyqei h Kybernhsh na pisteyei oti h politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs einai ejw ap` ola ayta;

REPPAS: Ma, ayto to exei dhlwsei kai h epishmh eisaggelikh arxh. Apo ekei kai pera, epanalambanw th qesh mas: Epiqymoyme na oloklhrwqei h ereyna, na dialeykanqei h ypoqesh, na gnwrizei o Ellhnikos Laos pws akribws exei to qema, prokeimenoy na mh "sernetai" ayth h fhmologia, h opoia talaipwrei to dhmosio bio. H Astynomia einai enas mhxanismos o opoios prepei na leitoyrgei aperispasta kai na einai afosiwmenos sta kaqhkonta toy. Gi` ayto, akribws, epiqymoyme h ereyna twn dikastikwn arxwn na apodwsei, to syntomotero dynato, ta toy Kaisaros tw Kaisari. Na lamcei h alhqeia. Ayto epiqymei h Kybernhsh.

PARIS: Sas apasxolei olh ayth h ypotiqemenh faylothta sthn Astynomia; Giati, einai h prwth fora poy bgainoyn ola ayta.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti gia fainomena diafqoras sthn Astynomia exei milhsei o idios o Arxhgos ths. Opws, epishs, diafqora -exei pei o idios kai einai koinh pepoiqhsh ayto- mporei na synanthsei kaneis kai se alloys koinwnikoys tomeis. Prepei pantote, efoson yparxoyn sygkekrimena stoixeia, na antimetwpizoyme me apofasistiko kai apotelesmatiko tropo tetoia fainomena, otan prokyptoyn kai otan ta exoyme ypoch mas. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, den prepei na paradinomaste se mia akrath filologia, xwris na stoixeioqetoyme tis kataggelias mas kai thn kritikh mas.

KANELLAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an aytes tis hmeres poy o k. Tsoxatzopoylos brisketai stis HPA, h toyrkikh kybernhsh askhse piesh sthn amerikanikh, zhtwntas ths na peisei ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo na mhn promhqeytei h Kypros toys S-300.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ti exei kanei h toyrkikh kybernhsh. Gnwrizw, omws, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs twn HPA, h opoia exei amesws h emmesws ekfrastei me diaforoys tropoys gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Gnwrizete oti exoyn mia sygkrathmenh proseggish kai epiqymoyn na mhn proxwrhsei h Kypros sthn promhqeia aytwn twn pyraylikwn systhmatwn. Exoyn th dikh toys epixeirhmatologia. Emeis exoyme anaptyjei ta poly isxyra, logika kai dikaia epixeirhmata mas, oson afora ayto to qema. Exoyme deijei thn poly kalh diaqesh mas, kratwntas mia poly paragwgikh stash sto qema ayto. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti h Kypriakh Kybernhsh apofasise mia anabolh ths promhqeias aytwn twn pyraylikwn systhmatwn gia kapoioys mhnes, prokeimenoy na doqei h dynatothta o dieqnhs paragontas na ajiopoihsei thn epirroh toy kai na epityxei ejelijeis se qetikh kateyqynsh, oson afora to Kypriako qema. Alla, apo thn allh, antilambaneste oti den einai dynaton h Kypros na paramenei esaei aixmalwth twn diaqesewn ths Toyrkias. Ki edw epishmainw to gegonos toy chfismatos 125 boyleytwn toy bretanikoy koinoboylioy, yper ths apofashs ayths, thn opoia qewroyn dikaih, nomimh kai logikh. Na ejoplistei, dhladh, h Kypros, prokeimenoy na yperaspistei thn akeraiothta ths.

FASOYLAS: Pws sxoliazete, kyrie Ekproswpe, tis drasthriothtes enos ypallhloy ths Komision, toylaxiston symfwna me osa dhmosieyontai shmera ston Typo;

REPPAS: Plhroforhqhkame me kataplhjh th drasthriothta toy koinotikoy ajiwmatoyxoy. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa zhthsei epishmh enhmerwsh apo ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, ton k. Santer, o opoios einai o epikefalhs twn yphresiwn stis opoies anhkei o sygkekrimenos ajiwmatoyxos. An pragmatika antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia ta osa dhmosieyontai, yparxei qema kai qa zhthsoyme na apodoqoyn eyqynes. Giati den einai dynaton koinotikoi ajiwmatoyxoi oi opoioi ekproswpoyn -aytos einai o rolos toys- thn Koinothta se diafores xwres, na leitoyrgoyn se baros ths Koinothtas telikws, prowqwntas ta symferonta mias sygkekrimenhs xwras kai malista me enan tetoio tropo o opoios den bohqaei oyte thn idia thn xwra thn opoia epiqymoyn na bohqhsoyn. Giati; Giati thn odhgei se ena lanqasmeno dromo, se epiloges oi opoies den exoyn sxesh me thn efikth prooptikh ayths ths xwras, afoy den ths paroysiazei thn pragmatikothta. Ara, loipon, ayth h parapoihsh twn pragmatikwn stoixeiwn einai mia prosfora kakhs yphresias. Qa zhthsoyme na ginei elegxos kai na apodoqoyn eyqynes.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia apofash toy Areioy Pagoy, h opoia ekdoqhke prin apo merikes meres, symfwna me thn opoia, gia prwth fora sthn Ellada, khryssontai paranomes oi organwseis twn politikwn kommatwn stoys ergasiakoys xwroys. Kai epeidh to qema ayto den einai stena qema ths dikaiosynhs, einai kat` ejoxhn politiko qema, qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Oi politikes organwseis sto xwro ergasias apoteloyn pleon mia katakthsh toy ergatikoy kinhmatos, alla qa elega akomh perissotero oti apoteloyn kai ena poly qetiko bhma poy exei kanei h politikh zwh ston topo mas. Oi diafores omades na exoyn th dynatothta na organwnontai se politikes omades, prokeimenoy na probaloyn tis apoceis toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes o arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs se dhlwsh toy zhtaei to Elegktiko Synedrio na elegjei ayto to elleimma twn 915 dis ston Organismo Astikwn Sygkoinwniwn. H Kybernhsh to dexetai;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh to dexetai apolytws. To Elegktiko Synedrio exei stadio dojhs lampro. Exoyme pei allwste, pws exei prokycei ayto to logistiko xreos. Milhsame gia tis prosayjhseis twn daneiwn, ta opoia eixe labei aytos o Organismos. Daneia ta opoia doqhkan me eggyhsh toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy. Einai logistikes eggrafes, sto megalytero pososto, ta xreh sta opoia anaferomaste. Milhsame gi` ayto xqes me leptomereies. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme. Allwste, emeis eimaste aytoi oi opoioi gnwstopoihsame thn protash mas gia thn ejygiansh twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn, sto plaisio mias desmhs metrwn poy analambanoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh qa prowqhsei ayth thn protash;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh prowqei mia megalh diarqrwtikh allagh sto xwro twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn gia na beltiwqei h leitoyrgia toys kai na apolambanei o poliths poly kalyteres yphresies apo tis astikes sygkoinwnies. Idiaitera oi ergazomenoi poy xrhsimopoioyn ta mazika mesa metaforas. Apo kei kai pera o, tidhpote symballei sth diafaneia kai thn plhrh nomimothta me thn opoia askeitai ayth h politikh, emeis qa to syntrejoyme, giati epiqymoyme na eimaste apolytws diafaneis kai antikeimenikoi stis epiloges tis opoies kanoyme.

BITSENTZOY: Gnwrizete an sthn epistolh Olmprait pros Klhridh, ginetai kapoia nyjh sto qema "non fly zone" kai epishs kata poso h mh yioqethsh ayths ths protashs ofeiletai se antidraseis Toyrkwn h arnhsh twn Amerikanwn kai toy NATO na parasxoyn sxetikes eggyhseis.

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, gnwrizete oti h Toyrkia den exei labei qetikh qesh sto sygkekrimeno ayto qema. H idea diatypwqhke kai den yphrje tetoia antidrash apo thn Toyrkia. Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, pragmati antallaxqhkan epistoles metajy toy k. Klhridh kai ths kas Olmprait. To periexomeno twn epistolwn aytwn den exei doqei sth dhmosiothta. H kypriakh kybernhsh den epiqymei na katasthsei dhmosio qema thn epistolh ths kas Olmprait kai thn apanthtikh epistolh pros aythn toy k. Klhridh.

SOYRMELH: Yparxei mia dhlwsh shmera toy Toyrkoy ekproswpoy gia to qema ths apostratikopoihshs twn nhsiwn toy Aigaioy, opoy qewrei oti einai aparadekth h Ellada poy parabiazei tis synqhkes ths Lozannhs kai twn Parisiwn. Exete na kanete kapoia allh dhlwsh;

REPPAS: Sxoliasa thn prwtoboylia ayth ths Toyrkias, proxqes. Ejedwse anakoinwsh kai to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas. To qema to meleta h armodia yphresia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai qa antidrasei me ton prosforotero tropo poy ekeinh krinei oti exei sth diaqesh ths.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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