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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

* Exete, hdh, oles tis plhrofories, gia to qema twn pyrkagiwn poy jespasan tis teleytaies hmeres. Ayto to opoio exw na sas pw einai oti exoyn teqei ypo elegxo kai oi dekatreis pyrkagies, oi opoies htan se ejelijh. Idiaiterh kinhtopoihsh dynamewn ginetai, ayth thn wra, gia thn katasbesh ths pyrkagias sthn perioxh Aylwnos, opoy kai pezopora tmhmata, alla kai aeroplana dinoyn th maxh. Pisteyoyme oti ta apotelesmata qa einai kala se syntomo xrono. Mporoyme na poyme, pantws, oti ola ta metwpa twn pyrkagiwn einai katw apo apolyto elegxo. Den xreiazetai na ypenqymisw tis poly idiaiteres synqhkes poy epikrathsan tis teleytaies 48 wres sthn patrida mas: Poly ychles qermokrasies, anemoi megalhs entashs, polla metwpa, diasparta se olh thn Ellada, ta opoia katesthsan anagkaia kai th diaspora twn pyrosbestikwn dynamewn, gia thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn.

Aytes oi idiaiteres synqhkes dhmioyrghsan ena plaisio, to opoio ekane para poly dyskolh thn prospaqeia toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, olwn twn forewn poy kinhtopoihqhkan, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei ayth h ektakth katastash.

Ekfrazoyme th lyph mas sta qymata ayths ths tragwdias. Sygxairoyme toys andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, toys dasikoys, toys polites eqelontes, oloys toys foreis, oi opoioi edrasan me poly ikanopoihtiko tropo, wste ayto to fainomeno, poy einai monadiko pagkosmia, na tiqaseytei mesa se wres. H apotelesmatikothta, mporei na pei kapoios oti apotelei kai to krithrio poy dhmioyrgei mia pepoiqhsh oti kaname to kalytero dynato, katw apo tis poly ektaktes kai idiaitera dyskoles synqhkes poy epikrathsan.

Prepei na sas pw oti poyqena ston kosmo, akomh kai se periptwseis poy h qermokrasia efqase toys 60 baqmoys Kelsioy, den eixame pyrkagies poy jeperasan se ariqmo tis 40. Sthn Ellada, se olh sxedon thn epikrateia, eixame 180 pyrkagies, me apotelesma na kaqistatai poly dyskolh h proseggish sta metwpa, idiaitera se perioxes poy htan dysbates.

Hdh, exoyn ekdoqei apofaseis, prokeimenoy stis perioxes Peramatos kai Salaminas, opoy kapoioi ypesthsan zhmies stis oikies toys, sta perioysiaka toys stoixeia, na enisxyqoyn me to bohqhma twn 200 xiliadwn drx., gia thn amesh antimetwpish twn ypoxrewsewn toys. Epishs, gia osh periodo prepei na bohqhqoyn, plhrwnoyme to enoikio toys se jenodoxeia h xwroys opoy filojenoyntai. Qa akoloyqhqoyn s` ayth thn periptwsh oi diadikasies poy problepei o nomos poy exei chfisei h Kybernhsh mas, gia thn antimetwpish twn anagkwn twn qymatwn aytwn twn ektaktwn synqhkwn, opws einai oi seismoi, oi plhmmyres, oi pyrkagies en prokeimenw, me daneia, ta opoia einai atoka kai megalhs diarkeias kai me oikonomikh bohqeia gia thn anaplhrwsh ths oikoskeyhs toys. Me thn apografh twn zhmiwn gia tis agrotikes perioxes qa doqoyn oi apozhmiwseis poy problepei o nomos.

Tonizoyme oti oi perioxes aytes exoyn hdh khryxtei anadaswtees. Me stenh parakoloyqhsh apo tis armodies yphresies apotypwnontai oles oi perioxes se xartes, prokeimenoy, to syntomotero dynato, na arxisoyn ta erga apokatastashs toy dasoys poy kahke. Se kaqe periptwsh, den prokeitai na epitrapei -einai aytonohto kai profanes- epektash twn xwrwn domhshs stis perioxes aytes.

Epanalambanw, oti, dystyxws, h xwra mas eplhgh apo ena monadiko fainomeno. Syndyasmenes idiaiteres synqhkes, odhghsan s` ayto to megalhs ektashs kai entashs fainomeno. Pisteyoyme oti o kratikos mhxanismos, oles oi yphresies jeperasan ton eayton toys, me apotelesma, ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme, apo tis 180 pyrkagies, mexri kai h teleytaia na brisketai ypo elegxo kai na mh diatrexei, pleon, kindyno anqrwpinh zwh h perioysia sympolitwn mas.

* O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei shmera gia th Lissabona, opoy ginetai h pagkosmia ekqesh EXRO '98, prokeimenoy na einai parwn ayrio, hmera Trith, poy einai afierwmenh sthn patrida mas. Sth megalh ayth ekqesh ekproswpoyntai 150 kai pleon xwres. Einai parontes arxhgoi kratwn kai prwqypoyrgoi. O Prwqypoyrgos qa exei shmera synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Portogalikhs Dhmokratias kai ayrio me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths filhs Portogalias.

Fetos, h ekqesh einai afierwmenh sthn poly gnwsth s` emas sxesh poy exei o anqrwpos me th qalassa. O titlos ths ekqeshs einai "Oi Wkeanoi, mia klhronomia gia to mellon". Gnwrizete oti h Ellada einai h megalyterh naytikh dynamh ths E. E., h de sxesh toy laoy mas me th qalassa einai idiaiterh.

* Prepei na kanw mia mikrh anafora-epishmansh sto "Dialogo twn Aqhnwn", opws onomasthke ayth h synanthsh, h diaskech poy egine sth Rodo, metajy ejwkybernhtikwn paragontwn Palaistiniwn kai Israhlinwn. Ekfrazoyme ki emeis thn eyareskeia mas, giati symbalame ws Ypoyrgeio sth synanthsh dhmosiografwn apo tis dyo pleyres. Pairnei, pleon, ena monimo qesmiko xarakthra ayth h ellhnikh prwtoboylia. Dhmioyrgeitai mia epitroph parakoloyqhshs, h opoia qa synedriazei dyo fores to xrono kai qa symmetexoyn se ayth pente apo thn pleyra twn Palaistiniwn, pente apo thn pleyra twn Israhlinwn, enas Ellhnas ekproswpos ki enas ekproswpos ths E. E. Epishs, oi dhmosiografoi -Israhlinoi kai Palaistinioi- symfwnhsan na idryqei enas israhlino-palaistiniakos Oikos Typoy, anoiktos se oloys toys anqrwpoys twn MME, poy qa egkatastaqei se perioxh prosbasimh kai apo tis dyo pleyres, prokeimenoy na diakinoyntai eleyqera oi apoceis kai oi idees toys. Pisteyw oti einai mia poly qetikh symbolh ths xwras mas sthn prospaqeia gia thn epiteyjh eirhnikhs lyshs sto Mesanatoliko problhma.

* Kleinw, dinontas sas kapoia stoixeia, ta opoia sas ofeilw, oson afora tis proslhceis sth DEH. Eixe teqei to qema, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada kai epeidh eida na diatypwnontai diafora sxolia, epanerxomai, shmera, gia na sas enhmerwsw. Ta stoixeia, ta opoia exw sth diaqesh sas, einai ta ejhs:

-Apo thn 1.1.1993 ews tis 31.10.1993, ton teleytaio xrono dhladh, to teleytaio dekamhno prin apo tis ekloges toy 1993, eginan sth DEH 8.390 proslhceis. An prosqesete de kai tis 2.891 proslhceis poy eginan apo ton Ioylio toy 1989 ews to Dekembrio toy 1992, tote, opws sas eipa kai proxqes, bgainei to symperasma pws 11.281 sympolites mas proslhfqhkan, thn trietia ths diakybernhshs ths xwras apo th "Nea Dhmokratia", sth DEH. -Apo thn 1.1.1994 ews ton Aprilio toy 1998 exoyn proslhfqei sth DEH 2.346 sympolites mas. Oi megalyteres kathgories aforoyn proslhceis politwn, me bash to N. 1648, nomo ton opoio qespisame apo th dekaetia toy `80, gia na antimetwpisoyme, metajy twn allwn, thn anagkh gia apasxolhsh eypaqwn koinwnikwn omadwn. Einai 907 aytoi poy proslhfqhkan ayth thn periodo kai anhkoyn sth sygkekrimenh kathgoria. Triakosioi penhnta einai aytoi poy proslhfqhkan sth DEH, ws apolymenoi apo epixeirhseis se biomhxanies toy nomoy Kozanhs, me eidiko nomo gia na antimetwpisoyme to problhma apobiomhxanishs ths perioxhs, enocei kai twn anagkwn poy eixe h DEH s` ekeinh thn perioxh, logw twn megalwn ergostasiwn poy leitoyrgoyn ekei. Triakosioi dekaepta proslhfqhkan, sto plaisio mias symbibastikhs epilyshs diaforas metajy ths DEH kai toy StE. Ayto afora kathgoria epilaxontwn, oi opoioi diekdikhsan thn proslhch toys kai proslhfqhkan. Sas lew oti to Dekembrio toy 1974, to synolo twn ypallhlwn ths DEH, h dynamh proswpikoy, opws leme, ths DEH, anerxotan se 21.635 ypallhloys. To Dekembrio toy 1981, h dynamh proswpikoy anerxotan se 27.566 ypallhloys. To Dekembrio toy 1990, h dynamh toy proswpikoy anerxotan se 29.751 ypallhloys. To Dekembrio toy 1993 anerxotan se 36.670 ypallhloys kai stis 30 Aprilioy 1998 se 33.930 ypallhloys. Ola ta stoixeia, me plhrh katalogo, einai sth diaqesh sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn mas eipate kai akoysame kai apo toys Ypoyrgoys olo to Sabbatokyriako oti 180 pyrkagies jespasan se olh th xwra thn Paraskeyh, to Sabbato kai xqes. Shmera oi dasologoi amfisbhtoyn ayto to noymero kai bgainoyn sta radiofwna kai lene oti h Kybernhsh diogkwnei, eskemmenws, ton ariqmo twn pyrkagiwn, gia na dhmioyrghsei entypwseis. Mia apanthsh gi` ayto.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh kaqe allo para diogkwnei -giati den exei kanena logo na to kanei- ton ariqmo twn pyrkagiwn poy ekdhlwqhkan. Pisteyoyme oti ta stoixeia ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias apoteloyn ton aceydh martyra ths megalhs ektashs twn pyrkagiwn poy jespasan tis teleytaies hmeres se olh th xwra. Ayth thn wra, poy einai wra cyxraimhs antimetwpishs twn fainomenwn poy parathroyntai se perioxes poy akoma den exoyn sbhsei oi fwties afenos kai afeteroy einai wra gia na ereynhsoyme ta aitia, na entopisoyme toys tyxon ypeyqynoys kai na apodwsoyme eyqynes, den epitrepetai se opoiondhpote na bgainei kai na askei mia kritikh gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn kai mono. Ayto to opoio proexei einai me th deoysa sobarothta na antimetwpisoyme ena fainomeno to opoio prokalei mia krish. Prepei, loipon, na kerdisoyme th maxh thn opoia dinoyme -kai einai mia krisimh maxh- kai na apofygoyme toys peirasmoys, na miloyme poly kai malista na miloyme atekmhriwta, mono kai mono gia na yperaspistoyme mesw twn isxyrismwn mas tis dikes mas apoceis kai qeseis, oson afora ton tropo me ton opoio prepei na einai organwmenes kai na parembainoyn sthn antimetwpish tetoiwn fainomenwn oi yphresies toy kratoys. Ayta ta qemata exoyn apofasistei. Qa prepei oloi, kai oi dasikoi ypallhloi, oi opoioi synebalan sthn antimetwpish ayths ths ektakths katastashs, na perioristoyn se mia diatypwsh twn apocewn toys, sto plaisio twn organwn poy leitoyrgoyn, prokeimenoy etsi na oloklhrwsoyn th qetikh symbolh toys. Kai na apofygoyn ki ekeinoi kai oloi mas akaires kai epizhmies kritikes, oi opoies -poly perissotero epeidh den sthrizontai se stoixeia- einai to teleytaio poy ayth thn wra xreiazetai h xwra mas.

MIXAHL: Ti apantate sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, sthn elassona antipoliteysh kai stoys dasologoys poy lene oti kakws chfisate to nomo me ton opoio metaferete thn armodiothta katasbeshs twn pyrkagiwn apo th Dasikh Yphresia, sthn Pyrosbestikh;

REPPAS: H qesh mas exei kat` epanalhch diatypwqei. Ergo toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos einai h katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn. H Dasikh Yphresia exei kaqhkon na frontizei, wste stis perioxes poy yparxoyn dash na dhmioyrgeitai h aparaithth ypodomh: fragmata, limnodejamenes. Kai bebaiws, symballei me toys epoxikoys ypallhloys sthn antimetwpish twn ektaktwn aytwn fainomenwn, otan ekdhlwnontai pyrkagies, bohqwntas to ergo toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos. Einai ergo toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos h katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn. Kai stis analoges kratikes yphresies pyrosbeshs, kai oi alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, se olo sxedon ton kosmo, ej oswn gnwrizoyme, exei anaqesei h politeia ayto to ergo. Ara, loipon, den dikaiologeitai ayth h memcimoirh stash kai twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Prepei na parathrhsw -kai den prepei na diafygei kai apo sas- oti oydeis mexri twra askhse opoiadhpote kritikh gia problhmata ta opoia proekycan apo elliph syntonismo. Akoysame polles fwnes, gia to oti den htan arketh h dynamh se andres h se mesa, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei h katastash se mia orismenh perioxh. Alla, problhmata syntonismoy oydeis epeshmane kai nomizw oti kai ayto einai ena prosqeto stoixeio to opoio kanei adikaiologhth thn askoymenh kritikh. Qa bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas, doqentos oti gia prwth fora efarmozetai ayto to montelo diaxeirishs mias ektakths krishs. Exw th gnwmh oti ta prohgoymena xronia poy eixame pyrkagies den qa prepei na tis "fortwsoyme" stoys dasikoys ypallhloys poy eixan thn epimeleia kai ton elegxo gia thn antimetwpish aytwn twn fainomenwn. Prepei oloi, enocei ayths ths dyskolhs katastashs, na symbaloyme, wste na exoyme to syntomotero dynaton ta kalytera apotelesmata. Kai na meinoyme twra se ayto: sth qetikh symbolh toys. H kritikh epishmansh twn paraleicewn h twn laqwn poy tyxon exoyn ginei, qa erqei h wra na anaptyxqei. Alla den einai ayth h stigmh.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti o mhxanismos toy kratoys kinhtopoihqhke amesws kai eparkws kai yperebale prospaqeiwn. To apotelesma omws einai oti xiliades stremmata dasoys kahkan...

REPPAS: Otan exeis 180 pyrkagies se olh thn Ellada kai to eipa ayto sthn arxh, eykola bgainei to symperasma oti polles qa einai kai oi kamenes perioxes. Oi ektaseis einai kaqe allo para amelhtees. Oydeis, omws, mporei na pei me akribeia poios einai o ariqmos twn stremmatwn poy exoyn kaei. Kai nomizw oti den prosferoyn qetikh yphresia aytoi poy to kanoyn. Oi armodies arxes, to Pyrosbestiko Swma, den einai se qesh prin perasoyn liges hmeres na exei mia plhrh eikona gia ton akribh ariqmo twn xiliadwn stremmatwn dasoys poy exoyn katastrafei. Qa prepei kai s` ayto na eimaste oloi pio sygkrathmenoi.

POYLIDOY: Prin milhsate gia poly idiaiteres synqhkes oi opoies synepesan kai amesws meta eipate oti anazhtoyntai eyqynes gia tyxon aitioys k. lp. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw prwton, an o prohgoymenos ypainigmos sas anaferetai sto endexomeno emprhsmwn. Kai deyteron, poios ayth th stigmh exei epilhfqei ayths ths ereynas gia thn epirrich eyqynwn kai an afora olh thn Ellada h mono thn Aqhna.

REPPAS: O elegxos afora olh thn Ellada. Oi kata topoys yphresies analogws armodiothtwn, exoyn epilhfqei twn fainomenwn aytwn. P. x. exoyme ena eyrhma wrologioy se mia perioxh poy exei kaei. Ejetazetai to endexomeno na apotelei ena meros wrologiakoy mhxanismoy poy topoqethqhke gia na proklhqei emprhsmos. Exoyn ginei, epishs, kapoies syllhceis meta apo kataggelies katoikwn se orismenes perioxes. Ola ayta ta eyrhmata ajiologoyntai. H Pyrosbestikh Yphresia, h Ellhnikh Astynomia, alla kai oi eisaggelikes arxes se kapoies periptwseis exoyn drasthriopoihqei kai epilambanontai. Epanalambanw oti einai poly prowro na pei kapoios me bebaiothta poia einai ta aitia gia kaqe pyrkagia. Alla qa einai kai aneyqyno na mhn ajiologhsoyme ola ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme sth diaqesh mas, eite ayta einai plhrofories, eite einai eyrhmata, sygkekrimena dhladh ylika stoixeia ta opoia meletwntai apo tis armodies yphresies.

KOGIANNHS: To roloi poy breqhke; Se poia perioxh;

REPPAS: Sto Dhlesi.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kai oi syllhceis sto Bolo;

REPPAS: Nai.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Apo tis prwtes ereynes fainetai, opws eipate, oti htan oi kairikes synqhkes poy prokalesan tis mazikes fwties. Apo tis prwtes ereynes fainetai na klinei pros to tyxaio ayth olh h istoria h pros th doliofqora ;

REPPAS: Tipota den apokleietai. Den mporoyme, omws, na eimaste perissotero safeis kai poly perissotero na eimaste kathgorhmatikoi, an den oloklhrwqei h ereyna kai den exoyme ola ekeina ta stoixeia, ta opoia qa peiqoyn gia ta aitia ths kaqe mias apo tis para polles pyrkagies poy ekdhlwqhkan tis teleytaies hmeres. Ayto to opoio kanei entypwsh -kai to epishmainw- einai o megalos ariqmos twn pyrkagiwn kai h megalh diaspora toys se olh thn Ellada. Ayto einai ena fainomeno poy den exei prohgoymeno sta pagkosmia xronika, oxi sta ellhnika xronika. Kai problhmatizei tis armodies yphresies, gia to pws einai dynaton se olh thn epikrateia na exoyme taytoxrona toses polles fwties. Alla, bebaiws, den prepei na paragnwrisoyme oti oi kairikes synqhkes htan poly idiaiteres. Eixame ychlo kayswna kai taytoxrona, apo mia stigmh kai meta eixame megalhs entashs anemoys. Ayto, antilambaneste oti apotelese ena stoixeio to opoio bohqhse sto na synthrhqoyn kai na epektaqoyn oi pyrkagies.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Shmeiwqhkan oi fwties enw eixe ginei proanaggelia apo thn Metewrologikh Yphresia oti qa allajoyn oi kairikes synqhkes ki etsi oi anemoi syneballan sto na ejaplwqoyn oi fwties...

REPPAS: Epeidh akribws, moy dinete thn eykairia na pw, yphrxe ayth h proanaggelia apo th Metewrologikh Yphresia gia tis kairikes synqhkes, olos o mhxanismos, to Pyrosbestiko Swma kai oi alloi foreis, htan se etoimothta. Kai pragmati, mporei na pei kaneis oti apo thn prwth stigmh kiolas yphrje epembash kai antidrash twn armodiwn arxwn. Alla, bebaiws, to fainomeno eixe parei mia toso megalh ektash poy eprepe na perasoyn dyomish hmeres gia na poyme ayth thn wra oti h katastash elegxetai. Se alles perioxes jerete oti kaigontai ekatommyria stremmata. Stis Hnwmenes Politeies ths Amerikhs gia paradeigma, sthn perioxh ths Flwridas, gnwrizete oti edw kai 15 hmeres synexizontai me mania pyrkagies se megalh ektash, me metwpa para poly megala, ta opoia akomh paramenoyn anoikta. Den exoyn antimetwpistei kai malista kriqhke anagkaio na metaferqoyn se alles perioxes peripoy 100 xiliades katoikoi. Prepei na to poyme kai ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kapoios ypeyqynos gi` ayth thn tragwdia;

REPPAS: Ayto mporei na to pei kapoios kathgorhmatika, otan oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes, otan qa gnwrizoyme pws exoyn ta akribh stoixeia gia ta aitia kai tis aformes, prokeimenoy na bgaloyme ena teliko symperasma. Kai efoson diapistwqei oti kapoioi exoyn eyqynes, qa toys apodoqoyn sto akeraio kai me ton pio aysthro tropo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kybernhtiko melos exei eyqynh gi` ayto poy synebh;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh kai ta stelexh ths se ola ta epipeda ekanan to kaqhkon toys sto akeraio. Yphrje amesh antidrash kai opws apodeiknyetai apo thn ejelijh ths antimetwpishs toy fainomenoy, h antidrash ayth htan ikanopoihtikh kai apotelesmatikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den yphrxe kanena problhma syntonismoy kai den yphrje kamia antidrash. Egw diabasa kai eida xqes anakoinwseis twn kommatwn oi opoies miloysan gia plhrh dialysh toy kratoys, gia xaos kai gia anyparkto kratos. Ta elegan arxhgoi twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Poy eidate eseis oti den yphrje antidrash;

REPPAS: Den moy kanei entypwsh oti eipan ayto poy eipate eseis oi arxhgoi twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Qa mporoysa kallista egw na xrhsimopoihsw th dikh sas erwthsh kai na thn apeyqynw stoys arxhgoys, kalwntas toys taytoxrona na apanthsoyn poy thn eidan ayth thn apodiorganwsh kai thn pantelh elleich syntonismoy, otan sth xwra mas ayto to megalo fainomeno antimetwpisthke se syntomo sxetika xrono, me apotelesmata -qa moy epitrecete na pw- mallon qetika. Giati qa mporoyse h xwra mas na eixe paradoqei stis floges. Para tayta, me th syntonismenh drash olwn twn armodiwn arxwn, katorqwsame ayth thn wra na exoyme qesei ypo elegxo ayto to fainomeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh allaje o kairos.

REPPAS: Oxi monon. Epeidh h prospaqeia olwn twn forewn, olwn twn yphresiwn, toy synoloy toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, me th bohqeia kai eqelontwn politwn, apedwse karpoys. Katorqwsame na tiqaseysoyme ayto to fainomeno. Ayto einai mia epityxia thn opoia den prepei na thn paragnwrisoyme, para to oti bebaiws ayto to opoio panta proexei, giati ayto epikratei, einai h lyph mas, h stenoxwria mas. Giati eixame apwleia zwwn, eixame katastrofes sto dasiko ployto ths xwras, eixame zhmies se perioysiaka stoixeia sympolitwn mas. Ayto den mporei na to agnohsei kaneis. Apo thn allh, omws, den qa prepei ayth h pragmatikothta na mas empodisei na anagnwrisoyme oti to kratos kinhqhke apotelesmatika.

KIAOS: Ayto poy eipate "bohqhma" -an to xarakthrizw swsta- twn 200.000 drx. einai kat` atomo h kata oikogeneia;

REPPAS: Ayto dinetai s` aytoys poy ypesthsan zhmies, stis perioxes Peramatos kai Salaminas. Ypografthkan hdh oi apofaseis. Dinetai stis oikogeneies, mono kai mono gia na antimetwpisoyn tis anagkes twn prwtwn wrwn, oyte kan twn prwtwn hmerwn. To bohqhma dinetai ana plhgeisa monada, dhladh, se kaqe oikogeneia.

KIAOS: Ayto to bohqhma qa prosmetrhqei endexomenws sto daneio poy qa doqei;

REPPAS: Oxi, bebaia. Einai mia xwristh drash ayth, h opoia einai aytonomh.

KIAOS: Kai den zhtate na epistrafoyn ayta ta xrhmata;

REPPAS: Oxi bebaia.

KIAOS: Ti xreiazotan na perilambanetai sthn anakoinwsh, opws metadoqhke, to "katopin entolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy";Giati dhladh xreiasthke na dwsei entolh o Prwqypoyrgos; Den mporoyse na leitoyrghsei apo mono toy to systhma kai na drasoyn oi Ypoyrgoi, xwris thn entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai na ginei h syskech;

REPPAS: Einai aytonohto oti o Prwqypoyrgos, kaqws parakoloyqei pws ejelissetai h drash twn armodiwn Yphresiwn, dinei kai sygkekrimenes kateyqynseis. Gia logoys plhroforiakoys perilambanetai s` ena deltio typoy to synolo twn stoixeiwn poy exoyn kapoia ajia gia sas kai gia ton ellhniko lao. Asfalws, oi idioi oi Ypoyrgoi, kai o kaqenas ston tomea toy, analambanoyn prwtoboylies, exoyn ypogracei apofaseis, synergazontai, prokeimenoy na prowqhqei to kybernhtiko ergo gia thn antimetwpish ayths ths krishs. Apo ekei kai pera, ayth h anafora oyte prosqetei, oyte afairei kati. Aplws kanei gnwsto ston ellhniko lao oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei teqei epikefalhs ayths ths prospaqeias, oti olh h Kybernhsh ergazetai aokna, me ola ta mesa poy exei sth diaqesh ths, gia thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos.

KIAOS: Mia dieykrinish: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti apo thn empeiria toy, kai exei -leei- tessera xronia empeirias apo tis pyrkagies, anaferetai sta tessera xronia poy htan sto Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias;

REPPAS: Asfalws.

KIAOS: Kai kati teleytaio gia tis proslhceis sth DEH: Ayto poy mas eipate, gia ton ariqmo apo 1-1-94 ews ton Aprilio toy 1998 poy einai 2.346 kai meta anaferate alloys ariqmoys, perilambanontai h einai ejtra oi alloi ariqmoi;

REPPAS: Oxi. Einai oi ariqmoi poy sas edwsa. Perilambanontai stoys 2.346. Apo toys 2.346 oi perissoteroi, oi 907 proslhfqhkan me bash to Nomo 1648 gia ta atoma me eidikes anagkes, oi 350 aforoyn thn kathgoria twn apolymenwn toy nomoy Kozanhs apo tis biomhxanies. Anefera tis polyariqmes kathgories proslhfqentwn, panw apo 300. Perilambanontai, loipon stoys 2.346, den einai ektos.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, diatypwnontai kriseis kai kritikes apo diafores pleyres oti to kinhtro gia tis pyrkagies htan kai o legomenos apo orismenoys "dasoktonos" nomos toy Ypoyrgoy Gewrgias. Dexeste ayto to syneirmo kai protiqeste na aposyrete to nomosxedio;

REPPAS: O isxyrismos aytos einai abasimos. To nomosxedio epidiwkei na antimetwpisei mia ekkremothta, na lysei problhmata poy yparxoyn kai exoyn dhmioyrghqei mexri to 1975, poy chfisqhke to Syntagma mas, meta th metapoliteysh. Den ryqmizei qemata ta opoia aforoyn metagenesteres periodoys. Ayto prepei na einai safes. Ara, den parexei opoiodhpote kinhtro gia kapoioys, oi opoioi qa hqelan -symfwna kai me thn erwthsh sas- na ekmetalleyqoyn tis diatajeis enos eperxomenoy nomoy. O nomos aytos, metajy allwn, problepei th dhmioyrgia dasologioy kai thn ekponhsh xartwn gia ta dash se olh thn Ellada, sto plaisio toy Eqnikoy Kthmatologioy. Einai mia ergasia, h opoia ginetai sto plaisio toy Ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias, symplhrwmatikh qa elege kaneis h ypobohqhtikh ths ergasias poy ginetai sto plaisio toy Eqnikoy Kthmatologioy se olh th xwra. O nomos aytos -epanalambanw- antimetwpizei katastaseis poy dhmioyrghqhkan mexri to 1975, mexri thn chfish toy prwtoy Syntagmatos meta th metapoliteysh kai den exei kamia sxesh me tis metagenesteres periodoys. Ara, den eystaqei ayth h kathgoria.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yphrjan plhrofories oti se orismena shmeia twn dromwn opoy kinhqhkan ta pyrosbestika oxhmata gia na sbhsoyn tis pyrkagies, brhkan stoys dromoys kormoys dendrwn. Exei kati ypoch ths h Kybernhsh gi` ayto;

REPPAS: Exei ginei gnwsth ayth h plhroforia, oti pragmati se orismenes perioxes, opoy yphrxan anoixtoi dromoi kai qa mporoyse na pei kaneis oti ekei anamenotan na einai eykolh h prospelash twn pyrosbestikwn oxhmatwn, oi andres poy breqhkan sthn perioxh ekei kai prospaqoysan na katasbesoyn thn pyrkagia, eixan na antimetwpisoyn kai ayto to ektakto empodio, petres h kormoys dendrwn kata mhkos twn dromwn, me apotelesma na dysxerainetai h prosbash toys stis kaiomenes perioxes.

KARASABBA: Me dedomenh thn apanthsh sas oti den apokleiete tipota, na qewrhsw oti den apokleiete kai kapoio toyrkiko paragonta; Kai deyteron, giati den symmetexei h Ellada s` aytes tis diplwmatikes periodeies poy jekinhsan sto Kosobo;

REPPAS: Gia to prwto qema: Otan eipa oti den apokleiw tipota, to eipa, to epanalambanw kai to ennow, giati den exoyme kapoia stoixeia ta opoia na peiqoyn gia to poia einai ta aitia aytwn twn pyrkagiwn. Ayto shmainei oti prepei na eimaste para poly sygkrathmenoi kai epifylaktikoi. Den exoyme, omws, kai opoiodhpote stoixeio, to opoio na mas odhgei sthn kateyqynsh ekeinh, wste na mporoyme na ektimhsoyme pws paragontes allhs xwras "exoyn balei to daktylo toys" gi` ayth thn ektakth katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke. Mporoyme na poyme, loipon, oti tipota den apokleietai. Alla den mporoyme na kanoyme kai ypoqeseis kai ektimhseis, epeidh ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme sth diaqesh mas den einai arketa, prokeimenoy na mas kateyqynoyn se ena sygkekrimeno shmeio. Toylaxiston ta stoixeia poy yparxoyn mexri ayth thn wra. Oson afora to deytero qema, gnwrizete poly kala oti h Ellada, gia ta qemata toy Kossyfopedioy exei kat` epanalhch diatypwsei tis qeseis ths, oi opoies akoygontai me megalh prosoxh. Ypenqymizw oti o k. Xolmproyk episkefqhke thn Ellada, prin metabei sthn perioxh. Exoyme polles fores diatypwsei tis qeseis kai tis idees mas gia mia eyreia aytonomia sto plaisio ths Gioygkoslabias. Pisteyoyme oti qa prepei s` ayth thn politikh bash na epidiwxqei me diplwmatika, politika kai eirhnika mesa lysh sthn krish. Symmetexoyme se oles tis prwtoboylies. Alla, asfalws, h Ellada den symmetexei sthn Omada Epafhs twn xwrwn poy synantwntai kata kairoys kai syzhtoyn ta qemata ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Eimaste parontes, exoyme ekdhlwsei to endiaferon mas. Otan syzhthqhke to qema sto plaisio twn Ypoyrgwn Amynas toy NATO, gnwrizete oti diatypwsame ki ekei tis idees mas. Exoyme analabei politikes kai diplwmatikes prwtoboylies kai eimaste ana pasa stigmh etoimoi na bohqhsoyme, wste na antimetwpistei h krish apo to dieqnh paragonta. Me bash, bebaiws, th sygkekrimenh politikh apofash, h opoia den mporei na einai allh, apo mia apofash toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, toy Symboylioy Asfaleias sygkekrimena, apofash poy qa nomimopoiei thn anaptyjh opoiasdhpote prwtoboylias stratiwtikoy xarakthra sthn perioxh.

KARASABBA: Ara, den exei prosferqei h Ellada na symmetasxei s` ayto to...

REPPAS: Isa-isa, eipa oti h Ellada einai paroysa, einai se etoimothta.

KARASABBA: Milaw gi` ayto poy symbainei shmera, gi` ayth th diplwmatikh periodeia telos pantwn...

REPPAS: Poia diplwmatikh periodeia; Gia peite moy; Posoi periodeyoyn sthn perioxh;

KARASABBA: Jekinoyn oi Aggloi kai oi Rwsoi.

REPPAS: Ayto shmainei oti oi Italoi, gia paradeigma, oi Galloi, oi Germanoi, oi Bretanoi epeidh den periodeyoyn sthn perioxh den exoyn endiaferon kai den symmetexoyn;

KARASABBA: Exoyn ekdhlwsei to endiaferon toys. Milaw gia thn Ellada.

REPPAS: Emeis eimaste parontes. Exoyme ekdhlwsei oxi mono to endiaferon mas, alla exoyme diatypwsei plhrh protash, h opoia -to epanalambanw ayto giati exei shmasia- akoygetai me poly megalh prosoxh apo to dieqnh paragonta, o opoios kat` epanalhch epidiwkei na akoysei tis qeseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio.

ALEJAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dhmosieyontai orismenes plhrofories, symfwna me tis opoies o Prwqypoyrgos episkefqhke ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai toy anefere oti protiqetai na prosfygei se prowres ekloges. Poio einai to sxolio sas gia to qema ayto; Isxyei ayto h den isxyei;

REPPAS: Ta dhmosieymata ayta katatassontai sthn kathgoria twn eytrapelwn dhmosieymatwn, gia ta opoia milhsame kai alles fores. Den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia. Nomizw oti twra to kalokairi kalo einai na peristeiloyme ligo th fantasia mas, giati, kaqws fainetai, diastelletai kai ayth logw ths ychlhs qermokrasias. En pash periptwsei, prepei na kaythriasw to fainomeno na apodidontai ston Prwqypoyrgo lejeis kai fraseis, oi opoies grafontai se efhmerides mesa se eisagwgika, san na apoteloyn logia toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, pragma poy den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia.

G. KAMPOYRAKHS: Se synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida "Ejoysia" o Ellhnas Epitropos sthn E. E. k. Papoytshs epanerxetai sthn kontra poy eixe me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Pagkalo. Apanta legontas oti oi portes toy einai anoiktes gia na dextei opoiodhpote kybernhtiko stelexos kai na synomilhsei mazi toy -kati gia ton opoio ton eixe kathgorhsei o k. Pagkalos- kai tonizei oti den skybei to kefali kai kaneis den qa toy afairesei to dikaiwma logoy. Exei kapoio sxolio h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Asfalws, oydeis dikaioytai na afairesei apo opoiondhpote allon to dikaiwma logoy. Kai opws gnwrizete poly kala exei milhsei sxetika kai o Prwqypoyrgos se allh eykairia kai exei ypogrammisei oti to PASOK, ypo thn eyreia ennoia, einai ena komma me anoiktes portes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia toys diorismoys sth DEH qelw na rwthsw. Oi 11.281poy lete einai monimoi ypallhloi h epoxikoi;

REPPAS: Einai oloi monimoi ypallhloi. Kai epanalambanw oti thn periodo ligo prin apo tis ekloges toy `93 proslhfqhkan 8.390 ypallhloi. Osoi, dhladh, den eixan proslhfqei se olh thn periodo apo to 1974 kai meta.

MOYRTZHS: Oloi aytoi exoyn karekles, k. Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Edw, kaleitai h DEH na lysei ena akomh problhma!

MOSXOBAS: Ara, exoyn bash oi aitiaseis toy k. Pagkaloy oti den synantatai o Ellhnas Epitropos me melh ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Exw pei, kat` epanalhch, oti h synergasia mporei kai prepei na ginei poly kalyterh. Ayto einai kati to opoio ofeiloyme oloi, oxi ston eayto mas, alla panw ap` ola sthn patrida mas.

Sas eyxaristw poly!

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