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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 16 Maioy 2011

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 16 Maioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Synexizoyme th megalh prospaqeia gia thn ejodo apo thn krish, exontas thn eykairia na doyme, gia allh mia fora, apta kai eyqeia apotelesmata sthn prospaqeia ayth.

Opws prokyptei apo ta stoixeia poy anakoinwse h Ellhnikh Statistikh Yphresia, gia prwth fora, meta apo ennea synexomena trimhna arnhtikwn ariqmwn metabolhs, exoyme ayjhsh toy AEP gia to prwto trimhno toy 2011, se sxesh me to prohgoymeno trimhno. H yfesh ypoxwrei apo -7,4% to teleytaio trimhno toy 2010 sto -4,8% sto prwto trimhno toy 2011. Shmeiwnetai malista, oti me bash tis probleceis toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn, h ejelijh ayth anamenotan gia meta to deytero trimhno toy idioy etoys, hrqe omws nwritera, ws apotelesma mias systhmatikhs kai epimonhs ellhnikhs prospaqeias.

Einai to jekaqaro kai apto apotelesma mias polysxidoys, systhmatikhs kai epimonhs prospaqeias poy diejagetai mesa se prwtognwra dyskoles kai reystes synqhkes, se ena dieqnes oikonomiko periballon para poly reysto.

Apotelei, pleon, kai mia elpidofora, alla realistikh endeijh gia to mellon kai mia kalyterh poreia thn opoia me thn idia kai perissoterh afosiwsh, pio beltiwmenh, qa synexisoyme na epidiwkoyme, me proshlwsh stoys stoxoys kai epimonh sta apotelesmata.

Giati, pragmatika, apotelesmata yparxoyn. Kai malista apotelesmata oxi qewrhtika h problepomena, alla apta, sygkekrimena kai metrhmena.

O plhqwrismos meiwqhke apo 5,6% to Septembrio, se 3,9% ton Aprilio. Exoyme, dhladh, mia sobarh meiwsh toy plhqwrismoy. To 2010 eixame gia prwth fora, meta apo xronia, pragmatikh meiwsh timwn sta agaqa prwths anagkhs, kata 0,5%, me aporrofhsh dhladh, kai twn ayjhsewn twn emmeswn forwn.

Eixame qetiko isozygio sto anoigma twn newn epixeirhsewn. Katagrafhkan 300 perissoteres nees epixeirhseis, apo diagrafes epixeirhsewn ton Aprilio. Malista, 300 htan kai oi nees systaseis etairiwn, mesw ths ``mias stashs'' (one stop shop), mias pragmatika kainotomas drashs gia thn epixeirhmatikothta.

To 2010, eixame gia prwth fora, meta apo xronia, pragmatikh meiwsh timwn sta agaqa prwths anagkhs, opws anefera prohgoymenws. Oi ejagwges ayjhqhkan 10%, entos toy 2010 kai 35% toys treis prwtoys mhnes toy 2011, se sxesh me to 2010. Oi ejagwges, pragmatika mas dinoyn ton tono ths anaptyjhs kai ths aisiodojias.

Oles aytes oi qetikes ejelijeis, fysika, se kamia periptwsh den mas epitrepoyn oyte na efhsyxazoyme, alla oyte kai na qriambologoyme. Gnwrizoyme oti oi synqhkes einai reystes kai dyskoles. Gnwrizoyme oti o dromos einai akomh makrys kai dyskolos. Wstoso, ejisoy gnwrizoyme oti otan yparxei prospaqeia, oso pio ayjhmenh, toso kalytera apotelesmata yparxoyn. Kai h poreia toys genna elpides gia to mellon. Elpida poy basizetai se prospaqeies kai oxi se eyxes kai qewrhtikes analyseis.

Oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn oti h xwra antimetwpizei mia prwtognwrh krish, megalh se entash kai diarkeia, poy den qa perasei me eyxologia kai magikes syntages.

Gnwrizoyme, omws, oti oi prospaqeies poy kataballei h ellhnikh koinwnia apodidoyn pragmatika apta, metrhmena apotelesmata kai ta apotelesmata ayta shmatodotoyn mia kalyterh poreia gia to mellon.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw, an h peripeteia me ton epikefalhs toy DNT, ektimatai oti qa ephreasei tis syzhthseis ths kybernhshs, sxetika me th diaxeirish toy ellhnikoy xreoys.

PETALWTHS: Emeis, opws exoyme pei, exoyme mia qesmikh leitoyrgia, mia qesmikh synergasia kai me to DNT, opws kai me toys alloys etairoys mas, oi opoioi mas daneiodothsan kai fysika, ayth h poreia den ephreazetai apo proswpa. Ephreazetai apo praktikes kai apo politikes. Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora, oti oso perissotero doyleyoyme, toso perissotero deixnoyme oti katanooyme thn krisimothta ths katastashs poy briskomaste kai yparxoyn perissotera apta apotelesmata. H proswpikh symbolh exei ena rolo, alla, apo ekei kai pera, den yparxei kamia ma kamia epiptwsh apo thn ypoqesh Stros-Kan.

SPANOY: Oi apokalyceis sxetika me ton epikefalhs toy DNT, den ektimate oti qa ephreasoyn thn antimnhmoniakh dynamikh, qa thn enisxysoyn, dhladh, sto eswteriko ths xwras;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, exoyme pei para polles fores oti to problhma mas den einai to mnhmonio. To problhma mas einai oti zoyme se mia krish, thn opoia den thn efere to mnhmonio. To mnhmonio antiqeta einai to apotelesma ayths ths krishs kai oxi aplws to apotelesma, afhrhmena, mias krishs. To apotelesma mias politikhs poy mas odhghse aqwrakistoys s` ayth thn krish. Ean pragmatika h ellhnikh kybernhsh, prin ton Oktwbrio toy 2009 epairne, tote, metra kai apofaseis poy eprepe na parei kai den ekrybe systhmatika apo ton ellhniko lao to ti ginotan sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, isws na mhn yphrxe anagkh mnhmonioy. Krish qa yphrxe, ayto einai dedomeno. Den qa mpainame omws me ceydh stoixeia kai aqwrakistoi. Kai fysika ta pragmata qa htan poly diaforetika ap` o,ti einai twra. Gi` ayto, akribws, to na milame gia antimnhmoniakh politikh kai gia aisqhmata kai synaisqhmata kata toy mnhmonioy, einai koroidia, einai ejapathsh. Ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme osoi agwnizomaste kai osoi agwnioyme gia th xwra mas, einai na prospaqoyme na antimetwpisoyme thn krish, sthn opoia mphkame, dystyxws, aqwrakistoi. Den mas ftaiei kanena mnhmonio. Mas ftaiei h aparadekth politikh ths kybernhshs ths N.D., poy mas ebale ``xaroymenoys'' se mia krish poy maqhmatika erxotan pros th xwra mas, thn opoia th gnwrizan kai thn ekryban apo ton ellhniko lao.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti ta proswpa exoyn mikrh shmasia, oson afora ton Stros-Kan rwtw. Entoytois, ola ta shmerina dhmosieymata lene oti h diadoxh toy k. Stros-Kan to piqanotero einai oti den qa einai Eyrwpaios kai qa einai pio synthrhtikos. Ayto den exei epiptwseis se mas;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme ypoxrewsh na synypologizoyme ta panta. Einai poly shmantiko to me poioys milame, alla epanalambanw oti mas endiaferoyn oi qesmoi. Oytws h allws, kaneis den mas xarise tipote, ayto einai jekaqaro. Anefera kai prohgoymenws oti h proswpikh symbolh exei mia ajia, twn proswpwn panw se sygkekrimenes diadikasies. Ekeino, omws, poy metraei, einai to pws antilambanomaste emeis, pws antimetwpizoyme toys etairoys mas kai pws antimetwpizoyme ayth thn krish kai tis proklhseis ths. Kata ta alla, safws kai parakoloyqoyme, ajiologoyme. Alla, epeidh den mas xarise pote kaneis tipote, gi` ayto akribws to logo den exoyme na xasoyme proswpika apo kanenan, tipota. Einai sto xeri mas na eimaste sobaroi, na eimaste synepeis, na eimaste grhgoroi, na eimaste staqeroi stis apofaseis mas. Tolmhroi, me gennaia apofasistikothta, dioti pragmatika h antikatastash kapoiwn proswpwn den qa exei kamia epirroh sto megalo agwna poy kanoyme gia na jeperasoyme thn krish.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, stis syzhthseis poy kanei o k. Prwqypoyrgos enocei kai toy neoy mnhmonioy, zhthqhke ws eggyhsh kapoio apo ta nhsia mas;

PETALWTHS: Kat` arxas, poios sas eipe oti syzhtame gia neo mnhmonio; H anafora poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos gia nhsia kai gia mnhmeia htan qewrhtikh. Emeis den eimaste kai den prokeitai na ginoyme pote endotikoi. Exoyme kai qa exoyme, polla epixeirhmata gia na proballoyme. Den qa mpoyme pote se tetoies syzhthseis. Akribws, ayto to metro edeije o Prwqypoyrgos.

SIDERHS: Ean den bgoyme stis agores to 2012, den qa exoyme neo mnhmonio;

PETALWTHS: Emeis prospaqoyme kai ayto kanoyme twra kai den perimenoyme na fqasoyme sto 2012 gia na qwrakisoyme thn ellhnikh oikonomia, oso mporoyme, mesa apo aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes. Kai gi` ayto, akribws, ginontai kai oi syzhthseis twn hmerwn. Syzhthseis oi opoies qa mas kanoyn pio asfaleis kai pio dynatoys, ws oikonomia kai ws koinwnia.

PITTARAS: Katalabainw poly kala, ayth thn ``kokkinh grammh'' poy bazete se sxesh me ola osa akoygontai gia ypoqhkeysh h pwlhsh h otidhpote allo dhmosias perioysias kai ola osa akoysthkan peri nhsiwn. Qelw, omws, na mas peite me ton idio kathgorhmatiko tropo, an ``kokkinh grammh'' bazete kai se o,ti exei akoystei kai akoygetai akomh kai twra gia tis pieseis poy dexomaste gia meiwsh toy kratoys kai apolyseis monimwn ypallhlwn.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, th meiwsh toy kratoys th leme kai emeis. Den xreiazetai na mas piesei kaneis. Kai milame gia tis arnhtikes pleyres toy kratoys, poy einai enas mhxanismos o opoios paragei arnhtika apotelesmata anti na paragei qetika kai ayta ta gnwrizoyme oloi para poly kala. Gnwrizoyme tis paqogeneies poy dhmioyrghqhkan kai ton tropo poy dhmioyrghqhkan tis teleytaies dekaeties, me apokoryfwma bebaia th ``xrysh ejaetia ths N.D''.

Den syzhtame gia apolyseis monimwn ypallhlwn. Ejalloy, yparxei kai to Syntagma - gia na mhn yparxei ayth h kindynologia poy kykloforei - to opoio safws katoxyrwnei th monimothta twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Den kindyneyoyn oi monimoi ypallhloi me apolyseis. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Ekeino to opoio syzhtame, einai sxetika me tis metatajeis, oi opoies, opoy prokycoyn, qa ginontai meta apo ajiologhsh. Kai fysika, den milame gia qeseis oi opoies yparxoyn hdh kai den milame gia monimoys ypallhloys. Ayto einai sigoyro, einai jekaqaro. Ton periorismo toy kratoys, emeis ton qeloyme kai ton ennooyme me teleiws diaforetiko tropo ap` ayton poy kapoioi prospaqoyn na bgaloyn pros ta ejw: Na periorisoyme thn kratikh spatalh, na periorisoyme tis paqogeneies enos kratoys terastioy kai enos ariqmoy dhmosiwn ypallhlwn poy htan dysanalogos me to paragomeno apotelesma kai me to kratos to opoio exoyme.

Hdh, ta stoixeia kai oi ariqmoi miloyn apo monoi toys, xwris na kanoyme kamia apolysh. Kai ayto deixnei, akribws, to poso meqodika doyleyoyme kai me posh eyaisqhsia. Xwris na kanoyme kamia apolysh, epanalambanw, to kratos exei pleon 52.000 ligoteroys dhmosioys ypallhloys, apo perysi mexri fetos. Peripoy 53.000 efygan kai oi proslhceis poy eginan htan peripoy 1.000. Kai fysika, opoy yparxei anagkh proslhcewn, qa ginoyn. Alla, qelw na pw oti yparxoyn kai alloi tropoi, xwris apolyseis, poy pragmatika elafrynoyn to kratos, kanontas to pio eyelikto, pio dhmioyrgiko, pio paragwgiko, xwris na qigontai ergasiaka dikaiwmata kai fysika, xwris na qigetai to dhmosio symferon.

PAPPA: Lete oti den milate gia tis yparxoyses qeseis. Se periptwsh poy katarghqei h yphresia;

PETALWTHS: Se periptwsh poy katarghqei h yphresia, ginetai metatajh. Alla ayth h metatajh, ean apofasistei, prepei na ajiologeitai apo to ASEP, prokeimenoy na ginetai me antikeimenika kai ajiologika krithria. Giati, poios arage qa hqele kapoios ypallhlos, o opoios den paragei kai einai apodedeigmena baros gia thn idia thn yphresia, na synexisei na plhrwnetai apo to ellhniko dhmosio kai malista se tetoies epoxes; Ayto den einai apolysh. Ayto einai mia orqologistikh kai dikaih diadikasia.

KOYTRAS: Epeidh to eipe kai o k. Ragkoyshs to prwi, se mia synenteyjh toy, to idio pragma, profanws afhnete orqanoixto to paraqyro gia apomakrynseis ston dhmosio tomea.

PETALWTHS: Egw sas anefera ti ennow. An eseis, twra, milate gia ``apomakrynseis'', mallon prospaqeite me ton oro poy xrhsimopoieite na afhsoyme paraqyro. Emeis omws eipame oti den qa ginoyn apolyseis. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Oi monimoi ypallhloi prostateyontai apo to idio to Syntagma kai mono se periptwsh metatajewn mporei na ginetai ajiologikh krish apo to ASEP. Tipote allo.

KOYTRAS: Me ti krithria qa ginetai ayth h krish;

PETALWTHS: To ASEP exei sygkekrimena krithria, ta opoia einai antikeimenika kai poy fysika den exoyn sxesh oyte me tis synenteyjeis toy parelqontos, oyte me pelateiakes h kommatikes sxeseis poy eixame synhqisei. Epanalambanw: Sthn periptwsh poy ginei kati tetoio, giati den yparxei apofash.

SIDERHS: Ayto einai gia toys monimoys. Gia toys aoristoy xronoy;

PETALWTHS: To eipame.

SIDERHS: Isxyei to idio;

PETALWTHS: Nai.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh synexizei na zhta synainesh kai synennohsh. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias, me dhlwseis toy apo th Qrakh, apo thn perioxh ekei poy eseis politeyeste, milhse gi' ayth thn anagkh amesa. Mporeite na moy peite ean o k. Papandreoy gia poioys logoys thlefwnhse thn Tetarth to apogeyma ston k. Samara, gia na syzhthsei ti gyrw apo ayto to qema, an htan ayto to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs.

PETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos k. Papandreoy epikoinwnhse me ton k. Samara, en ocei kai ths epomenhs hmeras poy qa htan to ``Zappeio 2'', prokeimenoy na zhthsei mia synennohsh, ayto poy leme ``eqnikh synennohsh'', etsi wste na anadeixqei kai na apodeixqei kai sthn prajh ean yparxei boylhsh kai apo thn pleyra ths N.D. gia kati tetoio.

MIXAHL: Apo to apotelesma ths synomilias, o Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos;

PETALWTHS: Apo to apotelesma poioy akribws; Ths synomilias h twn ejaggeliwn toy ``Zappeio 2'';

MIXAHL: Oi ejaggelies einai gnwstes se oloys mas.

PETALWTHS: Malista.

MIXAHL: Gia th synomilia, omws, den jeroyme ti allo mporei na exei eipwqei metajy twn dyo andrwn.

PETALWTHS: Anaferqhka se ayto prin.

MIXAHL: Egw, omws, rwtaw: Meta ap' ayto to thlefwnhma kai afoy profanws enhmerwqhke o Prwqypoyrgos ti perilambanei h protash toy ``Zappeio 2'', ean einai ikanopoihmenos.

PETALWTHS: Ti qa pei ``ikanopoihmenos''; O k. Papandreoy ekane mia sygkekrimenh topoqethsh, oti h xwra exei anagkh apo eqnikh synennohsh. Kai apo ekei kai pera, einai qema ypeyqynothtas kai eyqynhs twn politikwn dynamewn. Ennoeitai oti h synainesh kai h eqnikh synennohsh den kleinei me ena thlefwnhma, oyte me ena ``nai'' h me ena ``oxi''. Yparxoyn prajeis, yparxei sygkekrimeno programma kai mesa apo thn idia thn prajh fainetai ean mia politikh dynamh kai malista opws einai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, exei th diaqesh na elqei se mia eqnikh synennohsh, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisqei h krish poy perna h xwra.

MARAQIAS: Hqela na rwthsw, telika isxyoyn ta xronodiagrammata se sxesh me to mesoproqesmo; Qa oristikopoihqei ayth thn ebdomada, qa katateqei sth Boylh kai qa perilambanei kai to sxedio apokratikopoihsewn; Kai kati akomh, me aformh twra kai thn ypoqesh Stros-Kan, h opoia apekthse roz xrwma, to mesoproqesmo ti xrwma qa exei gia ton ellhniko lao;

PETALWTHS: Ta xronodiagrammata isxyoyn. Ayth thn ebdomada qa ginei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, qa pistopoihqoyn kai qa egkriqoyn ta osa perilambanontai sto mesoproqesmo, symperilambanomenwn twn apokratikopoihsewn kai sth synexeia, qa parei ton dromo ths syzhthshs sth Boylh, me thn synhqismenh koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

Se o,ti afora to xrwma, den to katalaba.

MARAQIAS: Polla legontai ston kyriakatiko Typo, yphrxan para polla dhmosieymata gia para polla metra poy perilambanontai, poy xtypoyn kai pali ergazomenoys, dhmosioys ypallhloys, apolyseis...

PETALWTHS: Ayto einai ena senario, gia kapoioys eyxaristo, oi opoioi malista, kerdizoyn me ayta ta senaria kai fysika dysaresto gia ton kosmo, poy tromokrateitai xwris logo. Oi politikes einai politikes otan anakoinwnontai, otan efarmozontai, otan apofasizontai. Emeis aitiologoyme plhrws tis politikes mas. Kai ayto qa ginei kai twra.

MPEQANH: Sas akoysa prin apo ligo na lete oti mesa apo thn prajh fainetai an h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh exei th boylhsh gia synennohsh kai synainesh. Perimenete, loipon, kata thn chfoforia poy qa ginei sth Boylh gia to mesoproqesmo, na sthrijei h N.D. to mesoproqesmo poy paroysiazei h kybernhsh; Qa zhthsete, telika, 180 chfoys h qa meinete sth qesh poy exete ekfrasei gia 151;

PETALWTHS: H qesh mas paramenei. To an chfisei h N.D., qa einai pragmatika mia askhsh eyqynhs apenanti ston ellhniko lao. Emeis, otan htan na sxediasoyme to mesoproqesmo, kalesame ta kommata na elqoyn se synennohsh, prokeimenoy ayto to mesoproqesmo na exei mia eyryterh synainesh, na symperilhfqoyn protaseis poy qa tis diatypwsoyn ta kommata, ta opoia omws - ta perissotera - me prwth kai kalyterh th N.D., aperrican ayth thn protash mas. Ara, h ypeyqynothta exei kriqei kata ena meros. Sthn chfoforia qa kriqei kai kata ena deytero meros. O ellhnikos laos den sygxwrei mikrokommatikes politikes kai ofelh ta opoia mporoyn na proballontai h kapoioi nomizoyn oti mporoyn na ta apokomisoyn apo tetoioy eidoys praktikes. O kaqenas einai ypeyqynos gia tis prajeis toy. Omws, to problhma ayto kaq' ayto einai sthn idia th xwra, h opoia aytes tis prajeis tis eisprattei arnhtika.

MALTEZOY: Qewreite dedomenh thn 5h dosh kai poioi einai oi oroi poy exei qesei h troika gia na mas dwsei ayth th dosh kai deyteron, ti perimenoyme apo to Eurogroup shmera;

PETALWTHS: Apo to Eurogroup qa anakoinwqoyn ayta poy qa apofasisqoyn h qa syzhthqoyn. Otan h diadikasia einai se ejelijh, den mporoyme na poyme tipota. Apo ekei kai pera, gia thn 5h dosh, emeis exoyme kanei mia poly megalh doyleia kai eimaste aisiodojoi oti den qa yparxei problhma.

PAPPA: Diabazw olo kai perissotero oti h troika, oson afora to mesoproqesmo, piezei gia chfish me 180. Exei bash;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, einai qema ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, twn ellhnikwn nomwn, toy ellhnikoy Syntagmatos, poy orizoyn pws chfizetai, analoga me thn isxy kai barythta toy kai me sygkekrimenes koinoboyleytikes diadikasies kaqe nomosxedio. Synepws, gia thn chfish kaqe nomosxedioy, tiqentai poly sygkekrimenes proypoqeseis. Epomenws, kamia troika den qa mporoyse na piesei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Emas, ayto poy mas endiaferei, einai na yparxei synennohsh kai synainesh. Apo ekei kai pera, etsi poreyomaste kai ayth qa einai mia diarkhs prosklhsh pros ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Emeis apofasizoyme, exoyme pei ti isxyei me bash toys nomoys kai fysika menoyme stis qeseis mas.

MPEKA: Sxetika me to Diplwmatiko Swma. Pws krinete thn epistolh poy esteile o Proedros ths Enwshs Diplwmatikwn Ypallhlwn, Presbhs Q. Daskarolhs kathgorwntas thn kybernhsh kai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia anomologhtoys xeirismoys se kairia eqnika zhthmata apo paraqesmikoys mhxanismoys kai bebaia xwris to azhmiwto. Kai ena deytero, ypobaqmish toy Diplwmatikoy Swmatos aytomatws prowqei toys moysoylmanoys kai thn anaptyjh ths Oqwmanikhs Aytokratorias. Ti ypokryptei ayth h kinhsh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis ergazomaste poly sklhra kai sta zhthmata ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai ayto to exei apodeijei to PASOK kaqe fora poy einai sthn kybernhsh. To idio apodeiknyei kai shmera. An ena swmateio prospaqei na prowqei ta syndikalistika h ta syntexniaka toy symferonta, logika h mh logika ayto einai diko toy qema. To na bazoyme omws pinelies ejwterikhs politikhs kai na endyoyme ayta ta aithmata me tetoioy eidoys pompwdeis ekfraseis, pisteyw oti ayto den armozei se diplwmates oi opoioi pragmatika dinoyn maxh gia th xwra mas.

Oson afora thn ypobaqmish poy anaferate: Ejartatai to ti ennoei kaneis ypobaqmish. Emeis se aytes tis synqhkes poy briskomaste, prospaqoyme me apokleistiko gnwmona to dhmosio symferon, kanontas tis anagkaies peristoles dapanwn, xwris omws na qigontai oles aytes oi grammes amynas poy exoyme kai ta opla gia thn yperaspish twn eqnikwn mas dikaiwn, na baloyme mia tajh kai sta qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. An kapoioi ayto to qewroyn megalo sfalma einai dikaiwma toys, alla oi kriseis poy yparxoyn ep' aytoy pisteyw oti den einai dikaiwma kanenos.

GIANNITSHS: Diabazoyme reportaz mesa sto Sabbatokyriako to opoio anaferetai sto ti dihmeifqh metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Benizeloy sto teleytaio atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Kai eixame kai mia sklhrh anakoinwsh toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas gi' ayto to qema. Eseis, mporeite na mas peite ti egine;

PETALWTHS: O k. Benizelos ejhghse eparkestata gia to ti ennooyse me ayta poy eipe mesa sto atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Apo ekei kai pera ta senaria poy diabazoyme h akoyme einai para polla kai epeidh einai senaria, exoyn kai ena endiaferon gia oloys osoi ta akoyn h ta diabazoyn. H pragmatikothta einai ayth poy eipe o k. Benizelos stis dhlwseis toy ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy otan ejhghse akribws ti ennooyse. Fysika den yparxei kanenas allos logos na sxoliazoyme ayth thn kinhsh.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me aformh mia epistolh poy feretai na exei steilei o Antiproedros ths kybernhshs k. Pagkalos se katoiko ths eyryterhs perioxhs ths Kerateas, legontas pws an den pragmatopoihqei o sxediasmos ths kybernhshs sthn Keratea syntoma h Aqhna qa einai Napolh. Yparxei kapoia ejelijh ws pros thn ylopoihsh toy sxediasmoy sas ekei;

PETALWTHS: Prospaqoyme mesa apo mia poly synqeth diadikasia h opoia dhmioyrghqhke, na ylopoihsoyme me ton kalytero tropo ayton ton sxediasmo - giati den parekklinoyme apo ton arxiko sxediasmo - prospaqwntas na beltiwsoyme kapoies leptomereies, xwris omws na apoklinoyme apo thn arxikh mas qesh kai apo ton sxediasmo poy egine kai apo ta xrhmata poy qa kindyneyan na xaqoyn ean apokliname apo ekeinon ton sxediasmo. Me bash aytes stis arxes prospaqoyme na syzhthsoyme leptomereies kai na tis beltiwsoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-229799379-1305667811=:19928--

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