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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 2 Martioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 319211132

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BRIEFING KYBERNHTIKOY EKPROSWPOY G. PETALWTH (02032011)

KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 2 Martioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Qa hqela kai apo ayto to bhma na ekfrasw ton apotropiasmo ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai twn Ellhnwn politwn gia thn anandrh dolofonia twn dyo astynomikwn ths omadas DIAS. Stis oikogeneies kai stoys oikeioys twn astynomikwn ekfrazoyme ta eilikrinh syllyphthria kai thn allhleggyh mas, opws bebaia kai stoys traymaties kalh anarrwsh.

Oi dyo aytoi astynomikoi epesan thn wra toy kaqhkontos. Dyo neoi astynomikoi poy ekteloysan to xreos toys apenanti sthn yphresia toys gia thn asfaleia toy Ellhna polith, xaqhkan kai ayto apo mono toy einai ena tragiko gegonos. Ekanan th doyleia toys prostateyontas to koinwniko synolo kai breqhkan mprosta se aimostageis dolofonoys.

Qa hqela se ayto to shmeio na tonisw oti h Ellada einai kai qa synexisei na einai mia apo tis pio asfaleis xwres ths Eyrwphs, xarh kai sthn titania prospaqeia ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias, alla kai eidikotera ths omadas DIAS, ths opoias h ejwstrefeia kai h egkairh paroysia pantoy, opoy yparxei anagkh, exei anagnwristei apo toys polites, ws ena apo ta qetikotera bhmata poy exoyn ginei sthn katoxyrwsh ths asfaleias twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kai ayto den prokeitai na allajei kai na kamfqei.

Paroysiasthke xqes, epishs, h koinh ekqesh twn ypoyrgeiwn Eswterikwn kai Oikonomikwn, sxetika me thn apotypwsh ths misqologikhs katastashs sto ellhniko Dhmosio. Gia prwth fora sth xwra mas -kai se synexeia ths apografhs twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn- gnwrizoyme pleon posoys dhmosioys ypallhloys exei to ellhniko kratos. Egine mia emperistatwmenh kai analytikh meleth gia th misqologikh katastash twn yphretoyntwn sto Dhmosio. Sthn paroysa meleth qa enswmatwqoyn kai ta dedomena poy qa prokycoyn apo thn Eniaia Arxh Plhrwmwn. H meleth, ektos twn allwn, apotypwnei kai tis megales misqologikes anisothtes, metajy ypallhlwn toy dhmosioy tomea, poy yparxoyn shmera. To dikaio misqologio, h misqologikh dikaiosynh apotelei proeklogikh mas desmeysh kai qa ylopoihsoyme thn kateyqynsh gia thn opoia exoyme desmeytei, na stamathsei na yparxei ayth h terastia anisothta. H ish misqologikh antimetwpish apo thn Politeia, anqrwpwn me ta idia prosonta kai me to idio ergo poy paragoyn, kati poy dystyxws den einai aytonohto shmera, einai gia emas zhthma koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs kai armonias sto ellhniko Dhmosio.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYTRAS: Me aformh th dolofonia twn dyo paidiwn ths Astynomias, hrqan sto fws apokalyceis gia poly megales paraleiceis kai poly megala kena poy yparxoyn kai se ylika. Malista polloi apo thn omada DIAS eipan oti exoyn agorasei ta alejisfaira kai ta kranh monoi toys. Ola ayta den mporoyn na diorqwqoyn se periodo, estw, mnhmonioy;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na aposyndesoyme ayth thn tragikh katastash ths dolofonias twn dyo newn anqrwpwn, me tis opoiesdhpote elleiceis ypodomwn poy yparxoyn. Giati kapoioi prospaqoyn na ta syndesoyn. Aytoi oi anqrwpoi, epanalambanw, oi dyo neoi astynomikoi, breqhkan mprosta se aimostageis dolofonoys kai ayto den exei kamia sxesh, kamia diasyndesh me thn opoiadhpote elleich ypodomwn.

Ws pros to qema poy rwthsate, yparxoyn elleiceis, ayto einai dedomeno. Oi anagkes ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias einai megales, pantote htan megales, den einai twrines. Emeis kai ws antipoliteysh eixame kataqesei kai erwthseis kai askoysame antipoliteytikh kritikh gia tis terasties elleiceis ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias, opoy yphrxan kai xwris na yparxoyn kai ta shmerina paragomena qetika apotelesmata. Polles apo tis elleiceis aytes exoyn qerapeytei. Opoies elleiceis gennwntai shmera - giati h omada DIAS, gia paradeigma, einai mia ejairetikh prwtoboylia me poly qetika paragomena apotelesmata - oi opoies elleiceis yparxoyn se nees domes, meletwntai apo thn ellhnikh Politeia. Sto plaisio ths dhmosionomikhs prosarmoghs mas kai sto plaisio twn dyskolwn kai sklhrwn oikonomikwn synqhkwn, prospaqei to ellhniko kratos na anaplhrwsei aytes tis elleiceis. Kai fysika, ayto qa ginetai olo kai pio entatika etsi wste h Ellhnikh Astynomia - poy h hqikh sthrijh ths einai apaitoymenh apo oloys mas, eidika se tetoioy eidoys stigmes - na enisxyqei me ton kalytero tropo.

PITTARAS: Xqes, o k. Papoytshs afhse anoixto ena mikro endexomeno, ena paraqyraki, na yparxei diasyndesh toy xqesinoy tragikoy peristatikoy me tromokratia. Oysiastika thn epomenh hmera, exoyme kapoia plhroforhsh perissotero gi` ayto to peristatiko;

PETALWTHS: Antilambanomaste oloi oti h katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke, h tragikh ayth katastash einai se epipedo ereynwn kai protoy oloklhrwqei h ereyna den qa mporoyme na poyme tipote.

SIDERHS: O boyleyths Hleias, k. Antwnakopoylos, sthn efhmerida METRO, zhtaei na yparjei kybernhsh eqnikoy xarakthra, eite eqnikhs enothtas h mias allhs morfhs, ypo ton k. Papandreoy. Einai syneidhtopoihsh oti h kybernhsh pleon einai adynamh na bgalei pera thn politikh toy mnhmonioy;

PETALWTHS: Apo poion na einai syneidhtopoihsh;

SIDERHS: Apo ton en logw boyleyth. To ektimate etsi;

PETALWTHS: Kaqe boyleyths exei dikaiwma na yposthrizei tis apoceis toy. Exei ypoxrewsh kaqe boyleyths na exei apoch gia thn politikh katastash ths xwras, gia thn politikh mas zwh. Ayto poy emeis mporoyme na poyme, einai oti ayth h kybernhsh doyleyei me ton pio sklhro tropo. To eipa kai to prwi, qa to epanalabw kai twra, oti opoiadhpote allh kybernhsh, me aytes tis synqhkes, den qa antexe polles wres. Emeis oxi aplws antexoyme, alla asxoloymaste apokleistika, kanontas mia poly sklhrh doyleia, gia thn ejodo apo thn krish, me to na baloyme se tajh epiteloys th xwra mas, me to na antiteinoyme apenanti stis xronies paqogeneies ena sxedio allagwn se oloys toys tomeis. Kai ayth h doyleia poy kanoyme, ennoeitai, den einai kaqoloy eykolh. Prospaqoyme kai sto telos eimaste bebaioi oti qa petyxoyme ta apotelesmata poy epidiwkoyme. Den yparxei kamia anagkaiothta na yparxei kybernhsh alloy xarakthra. Eimaste mia kybernhsh thn opoia o ellhnikos laos exei empisteytei na kybernhsei kai ayto kanei.

SIDERHS: Den synagetai omws to symperasma, oti o en logw boyleyths blepei oti h sklhrh doyleia den paragei antistoixo apotelesma kai apotelesmatikothta;

PETALWTHS: Den qa sxoliasw ti leei kaqe boyleyths. Einai diko toy qema, epanalambanw. Einai sebasta ta osa akoygontai apo toys boyleytes toy ellhnikoy koinoboylioy. Apo ekei kai pera, h kybernhsh kanei to ergo ths.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn wra poy blepoyme na plhqainoyn olo kai perissotero fwnes poy na zhtoyn ena pio oikoymeniko sxhma diakybernhshs, na askoyn mia kritikh oti h monokommatikh kybernhsh den mporei na ta bgalei pera monh ths, den einai toylaxiston ojymwro enas boyleyths toy kybernwntos kommatos na qetei tetoio qema;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, to akoyw apo ton k. Siderh. Poy shmainei oti den gnwrizw pws teqhke ayto to zhthma kai me poia aformh. Kai fysika, se apomonwmenes ekfraseis den mporw na apanthsw. Den gnwrizw apo poy proerxontai oi fwnes peri oikoymenikothtas. Emeis gnwrizoyme oti yparxei mia isxyrh kybernhsh, mia kybernhsh h opoia exei programma, exei sxedio. Mesa se ayth th reystothta poy antimetwpizoyme se eyrwpaiko kai dieqnes epipedo, prospaqoyme na throyme toys stoxoys mas, parallhla me to na bgoyme apo thn krish, prospaqoyme na pragmatopoihsoyme kai na feroyme tis megales allages. Emeis, to PASOK, pisteyoyme se aytes tis poly megales allages kai gi` ayto akribws den syzhtame gia alloy eidoys kai xarakthra, kybernhseis. Eimaste mia ypeyqynh kybernhsh. Ayta poy kanoyme ta kanoyme me plhrh epignwsh. Blepoyme oti otan yparxoyn stoxoi, tote den exoyme na fobomaste tipote. Petyxainoyme ayta poy qeloyme na petyxoyme kai ayto nomizw oti ta leei ola.

SIDERHS: Apo thn Toyrkia o Erntogan eqese qema, pali, apodoxhs apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh twn eklegmenwn moyfthdwn sth Dytikh Qrakh. Kai eipe oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh eixe dwsei to logo ths oti qa ekane apodekto to sxetiko aithma ths Toyrkias, alla den thrhse to logo ths. Poios edwse to logo kai thn yposxesh ston Erntogan gia eklegmenoys Moyfthdes sth Qrakh kai poso ayto synadei me th Synqhkh ths Lwzanhs;

PETALWTHS: Se poio xroniko diasthma anaferetai o k. Erntogan; Den gnwrizw an to leei.

SIDERHS: Nai. Afhnei na ennohqei oti me dikia sas kybernhsh doqhke o logos.

PETALWTHS: Malista. ``Afhnei na ennohqei'', ara qa prepei na gnwrizoyme akribws tis dhlwseis toy. Ayto poy qelw na sas pw, einai oti, prwta ap` ola, yparxoyn nomimoi Moyfthdes, etsi opws problepontai apo ton ellhniko nomo kai apo tis dieqneis synqhkes. Einai alhqeia, oti sta qemata ths moysoylmanikhs meionothtas ths Qrakhs h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenes qeseis kai protaseis. Ayto poy mas endiaferei - kai aytos einai o genikos kanonas - einai na diasfalizontai ta dikaiwmata ths meionothtas se qemata qrhskeias, askhshs twn qrhskeytikwn ths kaqhkontwn, se qemata paideias, se qemata sxesewn me thn ypoloiph pleionothta, me to xristianiko plhqysmo ths perioxhs. Kai ayta throyntai me poly megalh prosoxh. Ekeino to opoio, bebaiws, qeloyme na poyme, einai oti yparxei pantote anagkh prosarmoghs twn politikwn kai ayto egine kai ginetai se baqos xronoy. Otan yparxoyn apofaseis, qa anakoinwqoyn apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh.

Na anaferw, omws kai kati edw, poy einai ena geniko xarakthristiko kai apanta, nomizw, ston k. Erntogan: To qema ths moysoylmanikhs meionothtas ths Qrakhs, to pws zei se ekeinh thn perioxh, einai qema toy pws zoyn Ellhnes polites mesa sthn ellhnikh epikrateia. Opws endiaferetai h kybernhsh kai oxi mono h shmerinh, gia th beltiwmenh paroxh synqhkwn diabiwshs kai kaqhmerinothtas olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn, to idio isxyei kai me toys Ellhnes polites ths moysoylmanikhs meionothtas.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, apo ayto to bhma eipate oti kapoia stelexh ths N.D. ypoqalptoyn, h an oxi, ypokinoyn h organwnoyn kalytera kapoia fainomena ayqairesias politwn. Exoyn onoma ayta ta stelexh;

PETALWTHS: H N.D. ta gnwrizei para poly kala. As mhn anarwtioyntai to poioys ennooyme, to gnwrizoyn para poly kala, giati fainetai oti erxontai kai se epafh me ayta ta stelexh, prokeimenoy h na ta symmorfwsoyn h na diaceysoyn ayta poy ginontai.

KEXAGIA: Anarwtiomaste ki emeis.

PETALWTHS: H N.D. gnwrizei para poly kala. Den yparxei kanenas logos na anaferqoyme se onomata. Ekeino to opoio qa prepei na epanalabw kai shmera einai: Perimenoyme apo th N.D. mia eyqeia katadikh tetoioy eidoys fainomenwn. As mhn jexname oti h N.D., prospaqwntas na brei enan prosanatolismo - giati fainetai oti den ton exei, ean brisketai sta dejia, sta aristera, sta synthrhtika h sta epanastatika - einai alhqeia oti palindromei, einai alhqeia oti pelagodromei. As apodeijei kai se ayto to qema poioys stoxoys exei kai poia grammh akoloyqei. Pera apo ta stelexh, yparxei mia sygkekrimenh politikh h opoia diarreetai kai diaxeetai kai apo th N.D. pisteyontas oti bgainei ejw apo thn amfisbhthsh toy politikoy systhmatos. Gnwrizoyn para poly kala kai as mhn kanoyn toys anhjeroys, giati gnwrizoyme oi pantes ti rolo paizei kaqenas sthn politikh zwh.

KOYTRAS: Qelw ena sxolio gia ta senaria anadiarqrwshs toy ellhnikoy xreoys, poy epanerxontai pali sto proskhnio, kyriws apo dhlwseis Eyrwpaiwn ajiwmatoyxwn, alla kai oysiastika to telesigrafo poy esteile h Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza pros tis ellhnikes Trapezes gia na yparjei apejarthsh apo th roh xrhmatodothshs apo thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza.

PETALWTHS: Qa epanalabw gia pollosth fora oti den syzhtame gia anadiarqrwsh toy ellhnikoy xreoys. Yphrje, allwste, dhlwsh toy Epitropoy 'Oli Ren, se erwthsh poy toy egine, ean qa teqei tetoio qema syzhthshs. Emeis phgainoyme stis Eyrwpaikes Synodoys Koryfhs me sygkekrimenes protaseis kai qeseis. Exoyme fwnh, kyros, paroysia se oles tis diapragmateyseis poy diejagontai se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Ayth th stigmh, briskomaste se ena poly ikanopoihtiko shmeio ajiopistias, pragma poy den exei kamia sxesh to pws briskomaste ws kratos, dhladh sto zeniq ths anajiopistias, otan paralabame th diakybernhsh ths xwras apo th N.D. Synepws, exoyme na kanoyme me thn aparegklith thrhsh twn stoxwn mas, toy programmatos mas. Yparxei qema epimhkynshs to opoio syzhtame, yparxei qema meiwshs twn epitokiwn. Panw s' ayta diapragmateyomaste. Kai fysika, den tiqetai kan zhthma gia anadiarqrwsh toy xreoys.

PITTARAS: Exei dhmioyrghqei h syzhthsh kai polloi ciqyroi gi' ayth th ryqmish poy efere o k. Papakwnstantinoy sto forologiko nomosxedio, gia thn ypoxrewsh poy eixe to Megaro Moysikhs na apoplhrwsei to daneio twn 95 ekatommyriwn eyrw kai telika den mporei kai ayto qa to kanei to ellhniko dhmosio. Mporeite na dwsete mia peistikh apanthsh giati ginetai ayto;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, gia thn istoria toy pragmatos na ejhghsoyme oti to 2007, me kybernhsh N.D., doqhke eggyhsh apo to ellhniko dhmosio gia daneio poy phre to Megaro Moysikhs. Shmera, to Megaro Moysikhs den mporei na apoplhrwsei ayto to daneio. Ara, h ekpiptei h eggyhsh toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy kai xanei to ellhniko dhmosio ta xrhmata toy kai kleinei kai to Megaro Moysikhs h analambanei to ellhniko dhmosio, mesa apo sygkekrimenes asfalistikes dikleides poy qa katoxyrwnoyn to dhmosio symferon ws pros th leitoyrgia toy Megaroy Moysikhs. Synepws, h epilogh mas htan oyte na xaqoyn ta xrhmata toy dhmosioy, oyte na kleisei to Megaro Moysikhs. Emeis kanoyme tetoioy eidoys epilogh, poy kai ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy den ta xanei to ellhniko dhmosio, alla kai to Megaro Moysikhs poy einai mia monada paroxhs politistikwn yphresiwn, ena kyttaro politismoy - eite symfwnei kapoios eite diafwnei, antikeimenika h leitoyrgia toy einai ena kyttaro politismoy- me katoxyrwsh toy dhmosioy symferontos, mesa apo th leitoyrgia toy, qa synexisei na yparxei. Nomizw oti pio jekaqaro den qa mporoysame na to kanoyme.

PITTARAS: Entajei, einai profanes oti den mporei na sas kathgorhsei kaneis oti prospaqeite na sthrijete ena kyttaro politismoy, se kamia periptwsh. Wstoso, h sygkyria einai tetoia poy katalabainete pws oi syneirmoi einai polloi. Thn wra poy kobontai misqoi, syntajeis k.lp., eseis probainete se ayth thn kinhsh. Kai epeidh anaferesqe kai sth N.D., sas erwtw ean qewreite pws egklhmathse to 2007, eseis synexizete na egklhmateite otan synypografete ayth thn epilogh toy 2007.

PETALWTHS: Profanws, den egina antilhptos kai qa to epanalabw: To 2007 doqhke h eggyhsh toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy gia to daneio poy proanaferate. Shmera, ean den plhrwqei ayto to daneio, h eggyhsh ekpiptei, epomenws to ellhniko dhmosio xanei ta xrhmata toy kai sygxronws kleinei to Megaro Moysikhs. Me thn ryqmish poy epilexthke, kai to dhmosio den xanei ta xrhmata toy kai to Megaro synexizei na yparxei. Egw den qa krinw ws egklhmatikh h mh egklhmatikh th stash poy thrhse h N.D. Einai, omws, safes oti doqhke h eggyhsh xwris na mporei na yparjei kai pragmatikh eggyhsh oti qa apoplhrwqei ayto to daneio, opws prokyptei apo th shmerinh katastash. Me thn kinhsh mas ayth kai diafylassoyme ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy - den ta afhnoyme na petaxtoyn - alla kai thn leitoyrgia enos shmantikotatoy gia ta ellhnika kai ta dieqnh dedomena politistikoy kyttaroy, den thn afhnoyme na stamathsei na yparxei.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn eixe epafes me ekproswpoys allwn kommatwn, oi opoioi dexqhkan na erqoyn ston dialogo gia thn katartish toy dhmosionomikoy plaisioy gia ta eth 2012-2015. Hqela na rwthsw kata poson brhke th synainesh poy ecaxne kai an qa yparjoyn kapoies alles kinhseis gia synainesh kai apo alla kommata.

PETALWTHS: Einai safes oti o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, me ayth thn kinhsh toy na elqei se epafh me toys ekproswpoys twn kommatwn - osoi proserxontai apodexomenoi th synainesh- ylopoiei thn kybernhtikh kai prwqypoyrgikh qesh na yparxei mia dhmosia synennohsh, mia eqnikh synennohsh, eidikotera se o,ti afora se ena mesoproqesmo strathgiko sxedio poy yperbainei, yperkalyptei mia kybernhtikh qhteia thn opoia dianyoyme. Eixame kai exoyme ypoxrewsh na blepoyme pws mporei na staqei h xwra mas, pera apo 1-2 xronia, opws ginotan mexri shmera. Ayth thn ypoxrewsh kapoioi thn antilambanontai kai proserxontai s' ayth thn eqnikh synennohsh kai kapoioi oxi. Emeis den eipame na erqei kapoios kai opwsdhpote na symfwnhsei me tis dikes mas qeseis. Alla to ean symfwnoyn ta kommata me ayth th qesh poy einai qesh ypeyqynothtas kai eyqynhs, ayto prokyptei apo thn apodoxh h apo thn arnhsh toys. Dystyxws, h N.D. poy einai kai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, perifronei ayth th boylhsh mas: Th boylhsh toy na yparjei mia eqnikh synennohsh mexri to 2015, gia to pws qa poreyqoyme etsi wste na yparxei mia syntetagmenh poreia pros thn anaptyjh kai pros ena kalytero ayrio. Ta kommata ta opoia proserxontai ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys. Kai fysika qa yparjei mia synolikh apotimhsh gi' ayth thn synennohsh poy ginetai me ta kommata.

TZANETTATOS: Yparxei periptwsh na epixeirhqei enas neos kyklos synennohshs kai synaineshs meta th Synodo Koryfhs ths 25hs Martioy gia to zhthma toy ellhnikoy xreoys;

PETALWTHS: Emeis eimaste anoiktoi kai h prosklhsh gia synainesh htan kai einai pantote diarkhs. Eimaste anoiktoi se opoiadhpote synennohsh. Epanalambanw, gia mian akomh fora oti, anejarthta apo tis proseggiseis poy kanei to kaqe politiko komma, anejarthta apo thn ideologia kai thn politikh topoqethsh, pisteyoyme pws se mia minimoym bash sygkekrimenwn protasewn kai ajonwn poy exoyn sxesh me th swthria ths xwras kai me th symporeysh se poly sygkekrimena zhthmata ta opoia mporei na exoyn enan xarakthra poy jeperna aplws kapoies kommatikes grammes kai topoqethseis, yparxei pantote periqwrio na synennooymaste. Poso mallon, otan se tetoioy eidoys krisimes stigmes gia th xwra mas diakybeyontai poly shmantika stoixeia, ths idias ths poreias ths xwras apo edw kai pera. Kai kapote qa prepei na antilhfqoyme oti s' ayth th syzhthsh, xwris hgemonismoys kai majimalismoys poy den exoyn qesh se tetoioy eidoys syzhthseis, qa prepei epiteloys na proserxomaste kai na syzhtame.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o eklektos sas gia ton Dhmo ths Aqhnas, o k. Kaminhs, proxwra se ena sxedio ejygianshs - kai ypoqetw den mporei kaneis na diafwnhsei me thn ejygiansh - toy dhmotikoy Radiofwnoy. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs kai to diko sas bebaiws, gia to gegonos oti ayth h ejygiansh jekina apo symbasioyxoys twn 800 kai 900 eyrw kai apo anqrwpoys poy exoyn sxesh ergasias aoristoy xronoy kai ergazontai, bebaiws, kaqhmerina ston sygkekrimeno staqmo kai ean yparxei kapoios nomos poy epitrepei tis apolyseis, estw stoys OTA, gia anqrwpoys oi opoioi exoyn symbaseis ergasias aoristoy xronoy.

PETALWTHS: Den qa sas analysw apo ayto to bhma to nomiko skelos. Yparxoyn dikhgoroi oi opoioi mporoyn na apofanqoyn gia ta sygkekrimena zhthmata. Oyte fysika mporw na sxoliasw apo to bhma toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy tis energeies poy ginontai ston radiofwniko staqmo AQHNA-9,84. Bebaia, gnwrizoyme para poly kala ti katastash yphrxe diaxronika ekei. Apo ekei kai pera, einai qema toy idioy toy Dhmoy Aqhnaiwn. Kai den milame gia ``eklekto''. Milame gia ton Dhmarxo ton opoio sthrije to PASOK ws epilogh. Ara, to ``eklektos'' phgainei alloy, den mas afora.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pws sxoliazete ayta ta stoixeia poy exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai poy deixnoyn oti, thn periodo 2008-2009 to taktiko proswpiko toy dhmosioy ayjhqhke kata 31.000 atoma kai etsi ektojeythke kai to misqologiko kostos. Pws sxoliazete ayta ta stoixeia;

PETALWTHS: Ta sygkekrimena stoixeia pragmatika prosdidoyn ton xarakthra toy pws leitoyrghse h N.D. kai pws oysiastika lehlathse to dhmosio tomea, leitoyrgwntas me pelateiakes sxeseis. Qa prepei oloi na skefqoyme - giati shmera kapoioi erxontai kai milane, les kai jekiname apo to mhden, les kai mexri twra briskomaste se ena keno, kai apo dw kai pera dhmioyrgoyme kati - ti paralabame kai pws briskomaste shmera se ayto to shmeio. Ayto poy paralabame to gnwrizoyme pleon para poly kala. Akribws gi' ayto egine h apografh twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn giati h N.D., pera apo tis paqogeneies twn dekaetiwn, pragmatika, aselghse ston dhmosio tomea, leitoyrgwntas me kaqara pelateiakes sxeseis kai katastaseis omhrias. Dhmioyrghse enan yperogko dhmosio tomea, xwris kamia ajiologhsh twn anagkwn twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn kai fysika katargwntas to mono antikeimeniko systhma proslhchs poy yphrje mexri twra sto ellhniko dhmosio, to ASEP, otan to kathrghse bazontas kai th gnwsth synenteyjh kai malista primodotwntas thn me yperboliko ariqmo moriwn poy fysika yperebainan ths ajiologhshs olwn twn typikwn prosontwn poy eixan oi neoi mas.

As mhn jexname, oti anqrwpoi poy eixan ptyxia, metaptyxiaka kai didaktorika emenan ektos ellhnikoy dhmosioy enw proslambanontan oi ``hmeteroi'' oi opoioi epairnan to majimoym ths baqmologias sth gnwsth synenteyjh.

As mhn jexname, oti akomh kai oi ejetastes dieyrynqhkan kai dieyrynontan oloena - ayto prokyptei kai apo ta praktika ths Boylhs - etsi wste otan oi ejetastes den htan arestoi apo th N.D. na dieyrynontai apo enan kyklo apiqanwn anqrwpwn.

Ara, einai gnwsto oti h N.D. aselghse, dhmioyrgwntas enan terastio dhmosio tomea, xwris kamia ierarxhsh anagkwn, xwris kanenan ejorqologismo ektinassontas sta ych to misqologiko kostos. Gi' ayto akribws erxomaste shmera emeis kai bazoyme tajh kai ws pros to antikeimeniko systhma proslhchs poy to epanaferame, kaqws kai to antikeimeniko systhma proagwgwn mesa sto ellhniko dhmosio, wste na mhn exei kamia sxesh h kommatikh topoqethsh toy kaqe epilegomenoy proistamenoy, ajiologwntas kai ierarxwntas kai tis anagkes twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn. Desmeythkame apenanti stoys Ellhnes polites na meiwsoyme to misqologiko kostos toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy kai ayth akribws h meiwsh proerxetai apo ton ejorqologismo twn anagkwn toy. Etsi gia na mhn jexname ti ekane h N.D., poy shmera qrasytata omilei gia ton dhmosio tomea.

PITTARAS: Mporeite na mas peite, ti skefteste na kanete, se sxesh me thn timh ths benzinhs, h opoia pleon konteyei na jeperasei ta 2 eyrw; Prin apo arketoys mhnes eixate diafhmisei thn ypoxrewsh twn benzinopwlwn na mpainoyn sto site toy ypoyrgeioy kai na anagrafoyn thn timh pwlhshs kaqhmerina, toys eixate dwsei ena sxetiko kwdiko. Kaneis den mpainei, malista yparxoyn kai kataggelies oti aytoi poy mpainoyn, bazoyn poly xamhloterh timh apo ayth poy pragmatika poylane. Kai oloi aytoi droyn anejelegkta se baros ths tsephs toy katanalwth.

PETALWTHS: To qema ths timhs toy petrelaioy kai ths benzinhs, eidika aytes tis meres, pragmatika einai ena zhthma poy apasxolei thn kybernhsh me dedomeno oti exoyme tis gnwstes taraxes se xwres poy paragoyn petrelaio. H ellhnikh Politeia prospaqei kai qa brei tropoys, etsi wste - sto plaisio toy dynatoy pantote - na yparxei prostasia twn katanalwtwn.

PITTARAS: Antimetwpizete to endexomeno na balete plafon;

PETALWTHS: Den mporw na sas apanthsw ayth th stigmh. Pantws, yparxoyn skeceis kai protaseis gia thn prostasia twn katanalwtwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-2128058941-1299090141=:22957--

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