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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 17 Ianoyarioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 310939169

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 17 Ianoyarioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

O Prwqypoyrgos G. Papandreoy kaqws kai ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs symmeteixan shmera, se hmerida enhmerwshs kai anadiarqrwshs ths domhs kai ths leitoyrgias twn Grafeiwn Typoy kai Epikoinwnias Ejwterikoy, poy diejagetai edw sth Genikh Grammateia Epikoinwnias kai Genikh Grammateia Enhmerwshs.

H ennoia poy kyriarxei, alla kai h kyria odhgia pros ta Grafeia einai h ejwstrefeia kai h oso to dynaton megalyterh probolh ths kaqarhs eikonas ths xwras sto ejwteriko. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno shmera kai ayth thn anagkh martyra kai h symmetoxh toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

To pneyma ths hmeridas - kai pairnw aplws aformh apo thn hmerida ayth - fanerwnei kai thn antilhch mas gia tis nees apaithseis poy yparxoyn sto dhmosio tomea. Epizhtoyme th fygh apo ta stereotypa toy parelqontos. Thn allagh nootropias twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn kai olwn mas kai eidika aytwn poy yphretoyn sto ejwteriko.

Thn allagh stashs apo amyntikh, se epiqetikh. Epizhtoyme tis qetikes prwtoboylies, tis kales praktikes poy proballoyn ayto poy pragmatika dhmioyrgeitai bhma-bhma sth xwra mas.

H ejwstrefeia poy zhtame kai apaitoyn oi kairoi - kai apaiteitai, fysika, apo oloys mas- einai se qesh na probalei thn Ellada poy prospaqei, thn Ellada poy allazei proswpo, thn Ellada ths ajiopistias, ths dynamikhs paroysias pantoy, ths synepeias logwn kai ergwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIDIROGLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, meta ta osa tragelafika synodecan th syllhch 27xronhs Germanidas anarxikoy kai th diasyndesh ths me katastaseis apisteytes, xwris na yparxei o paramikros logos, alla kai th xqesinh prwtofanh bebhlwsh toy naoy toy Ag. Pantelehmona, sth diarkeia sygkroysewn metajy akraiwn omadwn, ti qa ginei me thn hgesia ths EL.AS.; Exei thn empistosynh ths kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, panw sto sygkekrimeno qema, hdh exei ekdwsei anakoinwsh o ypoyrgos Prostasias toy Polith, k. Papoytshs, me thn opoia apagoreyei th metadosh plhroforiwn, prin to telos twn epixeirhsewn, poy shmainei oti mia praktikh poy dystyxws akoloyqeitai, qa prepei na stamathsei, etsi wste na yparxei asfaleia, bebaiothta kai egkyrothta se o,ti grafetai, se o,ti akoygetai kai se o,ti legetai. Prepei na yparxei o apolytos sebasmos twn dikaiwmatwn kai ths ajioprepeias twn politwn oi opoioi emplekontai me ton enan h me ton allo tropo se adikhmata. Anaferomai se ayth thn anakoinwsh, h opoia einai kai analytikh.

Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, gnwrizoyme poly kala ti ginetai sthn perioxh toy Ag. Pantelehmona. Yparxei boylhsh ths kybernhshs - kai to deixnei - oti epiteloys den qa prepei na yparxoyn mesa stis geitonies ths Aqhnas tetoioy eidoys katastaseis, oi opoies dhmioyrghqhkan edw kai para poly kairo. Katastaseis oi opoies dhmioyrghsan ojynseis anamesa stis topikes koinwnies kai se anqrwpoys oi opoioi oysiastika, me thn apoysia metanasteytikhs politikhs hrqan kai egkatastaqhkan sto kentro ths Aqhnas. H dhmioyrgia gketo, opoy kai na yparxei, einai mia aparadekth katastash, thn opoia, fysika, h kybernhsh exei desmeytei oti qa stamathsei na thn anexetai kai gia thn prostasia kai thn asfaleia toy polith, alla kai gia thn asfaleia oswn mphkan laqraia sth xwra mas.

XIDIROGLOY: Kai sto qema ths bebhlwshs toy naoy; O naos bebhlwqhke. Espasan oi portes, rixthkan mesa xhmika. Ayto einai prwtofanes. Ayta den ginontan, oyte sth Sobietikh Enwsh, oyte epi xoyntas.

PETALWTHS: O proaylios xwros toy naoy exei bebhlwqei polles fores apo akrodejies, kyriws, omades oi opoies pragmatika den exoyn sebastei tipote kai oysiastika exoyn apokleisei thn prosbash twn politwn sth sygkekrimenh perioxh. O,ti ginetai ekei einai aparadekto. Qa prepei, epiteloys, na stamathsei h perioxh toy Ag. Pantelehmona na apotelei mia apagoreymenh perioxh gia toys polites ths Aqhnas kai fysika gia toys katoikoys ths perioxhs. Ayto einai dedomeno.

SPANOY: Exoyn bash oi plhrofories kata tis opoies to Megaro Majimoy epiqymei thn paradeigmatikh timwria politikwn proswpwn gia adikhmata poy exoyn diaprajei gia paranomo ploytismo, prokeimenoy na kateynastei h laikh orgh.

PETALWTHS: ``Paradeigmatikh timwria'', einai mia frash poy den exei na kanei me to dikaio. To qema einai na mhn yparxei atimwrhsia. Ekei eimaste apofasismenoi, eimaste anypoxwrhtoi. H atimwrhsia h opoia trefetai eidika sta politika proswpa apo mia sygkekrimenh nomoqesia, den mporei na ginei dekth kai anekth apo ayth thn kybernhsh. Kai den to leme sygkyriaka, epeidh akribws yparxei mia perirreoysa atmosfaira gia thn atimwrhsia twn politikwn, alla einai katastrathghsh toy dikaioy, ths isonomias kai ths isopoliteias twn politwn kai malista, otan oi politikoi exoyn kai ayjhmenh eyqynh na einai nomimoi, enanti twn ypoloipwn politwn. Ayto kanoyme, ayto qa kanoyme me nomoqetikes prwtoboylies stis opoies hdh exei anaferqei o Prwqypoyrgos, gia allagh toy nomoy peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn, gia tropopoihsh ths sxetikhs syntagmatikhs diatajhs, otan jekinhsei h diadikasia ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos, giati yparxei xronikos periorismos. Alla kai mexri tote, sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos, qa yparxei allagh, etsi wste h atimwrhsia, eidika gia toys politikoys, na apotelei parelqon.

Kai edw qa moy dwsete thn eykairia na anaferqw kai stis qrasytates dhlwseis twn prwhn ypoyrgwn ths N.D. gia thn ypoqesh Batopedioy, alla kai synolika gia th N.D., h opoia kalyptetai pisw ap` ayto to eyergethma ths paragrafhs gia ta politika proswpa, gia na xleyasei pragmatika thn aisqhsh peri dikaioy toy aploy Ellhna polith. Otan erxetai kai leei ``exoyn paragrafei ta adikhmata'' kai den milaei gia thn oysia kai qewrei oti einai dikaiwmenh h N.D. kai panhgyrizei epeidh paragrafhkan ta adikhmata twn ypoyrgwn ths, den yparxei megalyterh ybris, toylaxiston, oson afora th mellontikh prooptikh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs pros toys polites. To oti yparxei, mexri twra, mia diaforetikh poinikh symperifora apenanti stoys politikoys, qa eprepe pragmatika na kanei orismenoys na ntrepontai kai malista aytoys poy ekleisan th Boylh to Maio toy 2009 kai panhgyrizoyn shmera thn paragrafh twn adikhmatwn toys, etsi opws thn prosdokoyn. Gia oloys mas qa prepei na einai zhtoymeno, na mhn yparxoyn ``paraqyrakia'' sthn oysia ths Dikaiosynhs gia kanenan. Epanalambanw, oti oi politikoi qa prepei na prostateyontai apo anaities dikastikes epiqeseis, alla qa prepei na antilhfqoyme oloi mas oti exoyn ayjhmenh eyqynh enanti twn allwn politwn. Kai malista, qa prepei oi idioi oi politikoi, opoy yparxei tekmhriwmenh anameijh toy onomatos toys, oxi na krybontai pisw apo tis paragrafes, alla na epizhthsoyn ena nomoqetiko plaisio poy qa balei terma se ayth thn atimwrhsia, h opoia yparxei shmera.

POLYMEROS: Me aformh ayto poy eipate gia thn atimwrhsia twn boyleytwn, yparxei diarroh sto diadiktyo, apo xqes to prwi. Symfwna me tis plhrofories poy diarreontai, h k. Bartzelh exei synomilhsei thlefwnika me ton geniko grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn kai toy exei zhthsei, opws legetai sto idio dhmosieyma, me entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy na stamathsoyn oi elegxoi toy SDOE se en energeia boyleytes toy PA.SO.K. Yparxei tetoio qema;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, kaneis, kanena stelexos ths shmerinhs politikhs hgesias toy topoy den qa dianoeito na dwsei entoles gia na stamathsei h ereyna gyrw apo opoiodhpote proswpo politiko h mh. Otan h pagia kai diarkhs entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai ``ola sto fws'' kai h diereynhsh kaqe skias, mexri teloys, mexri peraiwshs ths ypoqeshs, kaneis den mporoyse na dianohqei na parembei gia na stamathsoyn oi ereynes kai malista se boyleytes. Alla, se sxesh me to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma, to na yparxei agnoia h na yparxei laqos plhroforhsh h laqos enhmerwsh, isws dikaiologeitai apo thn kaqhmerinothta, h opoia trexei. Tetoia ypobolimaia dhmosieymata, kalo qa einai na stamathsoyn na yparxoyn, giati yparxei mia sobarothta kai mia ajioprepeia, thn opoia aytoi poy ta grafoyn qa prepei epiteloys na thn antilhfqoyn. En katakleidi, ennoeitai oti den yparxei tetoio qema. Den yphrje kamia tetoia entolh. Antiqeta, isxyei h entolh toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy ``ola sto fws'' opoy yparxoyn skies.

NEDOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean epikeitai kapoia prwtoboylia gia thn allagh toy nomoy peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn, epeidh kati eipate nwritera.

PETALWTHS: Yparxei desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy thn opoia ekfrazei kai oles aytes tis hmeres, oti o nomos peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn qa allajei. Yparxoyn texnika zhthmata ekei, giati yparxei kai to Syntagma to opoio dhmioyrgei texnika kwlymata ws pros ayth thn allagh. Alla den qa perimenoyme na allajei to Syntagma. Qa allajei o nomos, sto plaisio fysika toy Syntagmatos. H boylhsh mas einai jekaqarh kai se ayth th logikh qa kinhqei h opoia tropopoihsh toy nomoy. Den mporei na yparxei atimwrhsia gia kanenan. Oi eyqynes twn Ellhnwn politikwn einai idies apenanti ston ellhniko lao kai fysika h atimwrhsia den qa prepei kai den sygxwreitai pleon, oyte ws skech, oyte ws idea.

TZANETTATOS: H boylhsh sas einai jekaqarh gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia thn oikonomia;

PETALWTHS: Exoyme pei oti opoy yparxoyn skies, qa diereynwntai. Ayto einai dedomeno. Apo ekei kai pera yparxoyn diaforoi tropoi na yparxei diereynhsh kai analoga me to ti yparxei ws stoixeio. Na sas ypenqymisw oti apo to Febroyario toy 2010, to exoyme pei kai alles fores, yparxei aithma, protash gia systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs ypogegrammenh apo olh thn koinoboyleytikh omada kai exei katateqei sth Boylh, opoy zhteitai na ginei Ejetastikh Epitroph gia ta parapoihmena stoixeia, etsi wste na apodeixqei poios parapoioyse stoixeia kai na diereynhqoyn akomh kai oi synepeies poy eixan gia th xwra mas. Ayto einai dedomeno kai einai hdh katateqeimenh ayth h protash.

KOYTRAS: Qa epimeinei h k. Mpirmpilh sthn kataqesh toy nomosxedioy gia ta 10 stremmata poy symfwna me to shmerino prwtoselido twn ``Newn'' exei jeshkwsei qyella antidrasewn stoys boyleytes, oi opoioi symfwna me to reportaz ths efhmeridas diemhnysan oti den qa perasei to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio;

PETALWTHS: Gia tis perioxes poy briskontai ypo kaqestws ``Natura'', yparxei ryqmish basei ths opoias, aytes prostateyontai logw fysikoy kalloys kai periballontikhs aisqhtikhs. Apo ekei pera, yparxei sygkekrimenh diadikasia sth Boylh: Yparxei KTE to opoio epikeitai na ginei, yparxoyn epitropes opoy ginontai dyo anagnwseis kai yparxei kai h genikoterh diaboyleysh. Ara, exoyme poly dromo mprosta mas. Einai pagia qesh ths kybernhshs, opoy yparxoyn protaseis gia beltiwsh, xwris omws na allazei h nootropia enos nomosxedioy, na ginontai dektes. Opws exoyme anaferei polles fores, oi boyleytes exoyn th dikh toys fwnh, einai aytoi poy metaferoyn thn agwnia ths topikhs koinwnias me plhrh ypeyqynothta. Synepws, to teliko keimeno toy nomosxedioy telei ypo syzhthsh.

PITTARAS: Na ypoqesoyme apo thn apanthsh sas oti exete thn eikona pws oi boyleytes poy antidroyn, exoyn dhmioyrghsei ena moxlo pieshs pros thn ypoyrgo kai kat` epektash pros thn kybernhsh, apeilwntas akomh kai na katachfisoyn ayto to nomosxedio ean parameinei sthn paroysa morfh toy;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti oi boyleytes exoyn tis apoceis toys, tis opoies kai ekfrazoyn. Den yparxei oyte antarsia, etsi opws akoygetai kai grafetai. Kai fysika den yparxei qema apeilhs katachfishs, giati oi boyleytes exoyn th dikh toys logikh, th dikh toys chfo idiaitera se tetoioy eidoys zhthmata. Den tiqetai kanena qema. Yparxei nomosxedio kai ep` aytoy qa topoqethqoyn oi boyleytes sto KTE, stis epitropes kai sthn Olomeleia.

TSAKIRHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw sxetika me tis ereynes poy ginontai apo to SDOE gia ta politika proswpa. Ean exete kapoia enhmerwsh gia to poy exoyn fqasei, dhladh ean qa exoyme syntoma epiteloys kapoion ``sto skamni'', opws exei zhthsei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos.

PETALWTHS: To parhgoro kai enqarryntiko einai oti to SDOE kanei epiteloys th doyleia toy. Exoyme foroelegktikoys mhxanismoys poy leitoyrgoyn pros pasa kateyqynsh. H N.D. toys eixe dialysei, to eixe yposxeqei proeklogika kai to ekane. Epeidh to qema ths forologikhs dikaiosynhs brisketai poly chla stis proteraiothtes mas, systhsame jana kai leitoyrgoyme me sygkekrimenes entoles kai me sygkekrimenes eyqynes ta foroelegktika organa. To SDOE kanei th doyleia toy kai ayto einai enqarryntiko. Peraiterw leptomereies qa mporoyme na poyme otan qa yparxei porisma. Einai nomika kai logika deon na mhn anaferomaste - toylaxiston egw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos - efoson den yparxei akomh katateqeimeno porisma.

TSAKIRHS: To lew giati xqes o k. Tsoxatzopoylos se synenteyjh toy eipe oti to SDOE exei arghsei. Exei zhthsei elegxo kai perimenei grhgora apotelesmata gi` ayto. Perimenete kai eseis gia alla proswpa kai ean nai, gia poia;

PETALWTHS: To SDOE kanei th doyleia toy, exei toys dikoys toy entatikoys ryqmoys, diereyna se baqos. O,ti yparxei ws porisma qa anakoinwqei otan oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ths ereynas.

KOYTRAS: Ti perimenete apo to shmerino Eurogroup; Perimenete na teqei kai na apofasisqei h epimhkynsh;

PETALWTHS: Sto shmerino Eurogroup den yparxei atzenta. Qa prepei na kratame xamhla tis prosdokies mas. To qetiko einai oti ginetai, genikws, mia syzhthsh etsi opws tiqentai ta zhthmata kai sth xwra mas. Fysika, qa parakoloyqoyme ki emeis tis ergasies toy Eurogroup poy den exoyn akomh jekinhsei.

KOYTRAS: Qa qesei o k. Papakwnstantinoy to qema ths epimhkynshs h oxi; Ypoqetw oti katebainei me kapoia strathgikh sto Eurogroup stis Bryjelles.

PETALWTHS: To Eurogroup qa labei tis apofaseis toy me thn proodo twn syzhthsewn, poy den exoyn akomh arxisei. Kata synepeia, qa parakoloyqhsoyme ek toy syneggys thn ejelijh ths syzhthshs.

PITTARAS: Mporeite na mas jekaqarisete kati, me aformh mia frash toy Prwqypoyrgoy nwritera, oti ``o idios kai oi ypoyrgoi einai perastikoi s' aytes tis qeseis''. Kat' arxas, ti ennoei o Prwqypoyrgos; Deyteron, h frash ayth exei na kanei me ola osa eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas to Sabbatokyriako gia to endexomeno eklogwn ton Aprilio;

PETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw th frash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, den thn akoysa. Einai omws mia frash poy pragmatika deixnei to poso prosgeiwmenos einai o Prwqypoyrgos kai poso prosgeiwmenoi einai oi ypoyrgoi ayths ths kybernhshs. Einai mia pragmatikothta oti safws eimaste perastikoi ap' aytes tis qeseis. Tis qeseis aytes tis anaqetei kai tis pairnei pisw o ellhnikos laos. Kai ayto qa eprepe na einai sto myalo olwn osoi kybernhsan th xwra mas mexri twra. Pantws, sto diko mas myalo etsi einai akribws h katastash kai fysika ayth h pagia gia mas arxh den exei kamia sxesh me ekloges. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai oti exoyme mia kaqarh trietia mprosta mas, oti exoyme ypoxrewsh na synexisoyme to ergo poy kanoyme mexri twra gia na bgei h xwra apo thn krish, ylopoiwntas tis megales diarqrwtikes allages.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o boyleyths toy SYRIZA k. Papadhmoylhs kathgorei eyqews me dhlwseis toy ta dyo megala kommata gia ena idiotypo pazari metajy toys, prokeimenoy na ``kacoyn'' ta hdh ``kamena'' toys xartia sthn ypoqesh ths Siemens. Qa hqela, parakalw, to sxolio sas.

PETALWTHS: Diapistwnw oti kai o k. Papadhmoylhs den stereitai fantasias.

XIDIROGLOY: Epeidh ta ellhno-toyrkika politiko-diplwmatika panhgyria diadexontai to ena to allo, omws to doylemporio me th diakinhsh laqrometanastwn apo thn Toyrkia synexizetai me thn emplokh yphresiwn ths geitonos xwras, pote skopeyei h kybernhsh na labei poly sklhra metra, wste na mhn ginomaste martyres tragwdiwn, opws h prosfath sta anoikta ths Kerkyras kai na teleiwnoyme me th laqrometanasteysh;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, den dexomai thn olh epixeirhmatologia sas. Einai dikh sas apoch kai anafaireto dikaiwma sas na thn ekfrazete omws, h pragmatikothta einai akribws antiqeth ap' ayth poy lete. Eimaste h monh kybernhsh, ta teleytaia xronia, poy lambanei tolmhres apofaseis kai panw sta qemata ths laqraias metanasteyshs me mia desmh metrwn poy pote mexri twra den qa mporoysame na fantastoyme oti qa apofasizontan. Yparxei h boylhsh ths kybernhshs gia th lhch tetoiwn gennaiwn metrwn. Kai h boylhsh ayth exei apodeixqei empraktws. H sxetikh syzhthsh poy arxise exei nohma kai qa exei fysika kai synexeia. Den milame gia apospasmatika metra. Milame gia seira metrwn pros antimetwpish aytoy toy terastioy problhmatos, to opoio exei na kanei kai me thn oikonomia ths xwras mas kai me koinwnika zhthmata poy dhmioyrgoyntai, alla kai me thn idia thn anqrwpinh zwh, opws apedeije to sygkekrimeno peristatiko twn laqraiws diakinhqentwn sth xwra mas. Exoyme, loipon, ypoxrewsh na antimetwpisoyme apotelesmatika ayto to terastio problhma kai ayto kanoyme.

TSAKIRHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw me aformh to Eurogroup, ean sas problhmatizei olo ayto to klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei me thn ``kontra'' ths 'Angkela Merkel me ton Xose Manoyel Mparozo, me thn epiqesh toy k. Mparozo pros th Germania kai an ola ayta dhmioyrgoyn kaqysterhsh oson afora to diko mas qema gia thn epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs kai gia to eyrw-omologo prooptika.

PETALWTHS: Problhma den yparxei. Oi syzhthseis poy diejagontai kai oi apoceis poy diatypwnontai einai polles kai antikroyomenes metajy toys. Kai malista antikroyomenes mesa sto idio to eswteriko ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, allwste einai oyk oliges oi periptwseis mesa sthn idia thn eyrwzwnh. Emeis exoyme th sygkekrimenh staqerh qesh, oti epiteloys h Eyrwph qa prepei na dei ta zhthmata poy antimetwpizoyn oi xwres ths, ej aitias sygkekrimenwn politikwn mexri twra, ej aitias toy roloy twn agorwn. Kai ws ek toytoy, qa prepei na yparxei prostasia twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn apo tetoioy eidoys fainomena. Hdh emeis, me poly megalh prospaqeia kai agwna, petyxame na yparjei mhxanismos sthrijhs, dystyxws me prwth endiaferomenh kai xrhsth aytoy toy mhxanismoy thn idia th xwra mas, emeis eixame ayth thn asxhmh prwtia. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, epeidh gnwrizoyme poso reysth einai h oikonomikh katastash, oxi mono sthn Eyrwzwnh, alla se oloklhrh thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, prwtostathsame, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghqei enas staqeros mhxanismos sthrijhs. Kai ejakoloyqoyme na prwtostatoyme, gia na yparxoyn diadikasies, opws ayth toy eyrw-omologoy, poy qa sthrizoyn kai qa bohqoyn tis xwres, oi opoies exoyn problhmata, alla kai qa dinoyn mia eyrwpaikh diastash, diastash prooptikhs kai anaptyjhs gia oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs. Den yparxei kamia emplokh gia th xwra mas otan ginontai aytes oi syzhthseis. Isa-isa, to antiqeto symbainei. Emeis petyxame, apo to poyqena, ekei poy oloi mas elegan pws den yparxei prooptikh gia thn ylopoihsh twn stoxeysewn mas, na syzhtoyntai sygkekrimena zhthmata, opws to Eyrwpaiko Tameio Xrhmatopistwtikhs Staqerothtas, o eyrwpaikos Mhxanismos Sthrijhs kai to eyrw-omologo, kaqws kai alla ergaleia eyrwpaikhs politikhs, poy qa prostateyoyn tis xwres ths Eyrwphs.

XIDIROGLOY: Epeidh diabazoyme oti epikeintai kinhtopoihseis twn farmakopoiwn, oi opoies, opws antilambaneste, qa dhmioyrghsoyn meizon problhma koinwniko ean synexisqoyn ep' aoriston, pws skopeyei h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei to zhthma, th stigmh poy ean stamathsoyn oi farmakopoioi na xorhgoyn farmaka epi pistwsei stoys asfalismenoys twn Tameiwn, qa dhmioyrghqei problhma;

PETALWTHS: Me toys farmakopoioys, o armodios ypoyrgos k. Loberdos ekane mia epiponh kai sklhrh prospaqeia gia na yparxei mia synainesh kai apo thn pleyra twn farmakopoiwn sto qema toy anoigmatos twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn. Fanhke oti den yphrxe sygklish, oti oi farmakopoioi emeinan pisw apo kapoies qeseis kai den proxwrhsan sth synainesh. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxei safestata h rhth apofash ths Politeias, ths kybernhshs, gia to anoigma twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn poy qa exei na kanei me thn idia thn prostasia, paroxh yphresiwn pros ton polith kai malista yphresiwn ygeias se prosites times. To farmako kai h politikh toy farmakoy exei amesh sxesh kai me thn oikonomia mas, me terastia posa poy diatiqentai idiaitera apo ta Tameia kai fysika kai me thn prostasia toy polith. 'Ara, s' ayto poy kanoyme eimaste jekaqaroi oti prattoyme to swsto. Apo ekei kai pera, qa prepei oloi na analogisqoyn tis eyqynes toys. Qa prepei oloi, pragmatika, na katanohsoyn ton rolo toys. Kai malista otan askoyn ena epaggelma gia to opoio toys parexetai kai adeia kata paraxwrhsh apo thn ellhnikh Politeia. Pisteyoyme oti h logikh kai h cyxraimia qa yperisxysoyn kai oti den qa exoyme problhmata sthn agora toy farmakoy.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Pera apo thn politikh toy farmakoy poy apotelei ki ena jexwristo nomosxedio, epeidh akoysame ton k. Papakwnstantinoy, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, na proanaggellei thn egkrish toy synolikoy nomosxedioy gia ta kleista epaggelmata ayth thn ebdomada, poso etoimoi eisqe; Dioti, ej oswn gnwrizoyme, oyte oi dikhgoroi, oyte oi mhxanikoi, oyte oi symbolaiografoi exoyn symfwnhsei apolytws me tis ryqmiseis poy qelei na perasei h kybernhsh.

PETALWTHS: Einai logiko oti oi epaggelmatikes omades poy qigontai qa diatypwnoyn diafores apoceis. To oti epishs qa yparjoyn antidraseis, ayto einai anamenomeno. Omws, h staqerothta ths kybernhshs epi toy meizonos zhthmatos toy anoigmatos twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn, kaqws kai h tolmh kai apofasistikothta ths na proxwrhsei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, einai dedomenh, me ta krithria poy sas proanefera. Perimenoyme omws kai emeis, opws oles oi epaggelmatikes omades, sto plaisio ths syzhthshs - diaboyleyshs poy ginetai me aytes, na arqoyn sto ycos twn peristasewn. Einai dedomeno oti qa prepei na mhn yparxoyn periorismoi sta epaggelmata kai opoy yparxoyn na einai symbatoi me ayto poy qeloyme na onomazoyme ``poiotikh kai prosith paroxh yphresiwn pros toys polites''. Pantws, emeis eimaste etoimoi.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Qa erqei kai ayto to nomosxedio me th morfh toy katepeigontos;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti emeis eimaste etoimoi. En pash periptwsei, otan katateqei to nomosxedio sth Boylh, qa doyme kai th morfh poy qa exei. Pantws gia na sas kaqhsyxasw, ean eprokeito na katateqei me th diadikasia toy katepeigontos, ayto qa eixe hdh ginei.

Eyxaristw.

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