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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 26 Noembrioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 302040268

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 26 Noembrioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Parakoloyqhsame thn omilia toy k. Samara sthn koinoboyleytikh omada toy kommatos ths N.D. Einai logiko o k. Samaras na prospaqei agwniwdws na stamathsei th fylloroh ths koinoboyleytikhs toy omadas.

Qa eprepe, omws, sigoyra na brei alloys tropoys.

Taytisthke plhrws me thn kybernhsh Karamanlh, anakalyptontas megales diarqrwtikes allages, oi opoies fysika pote den eginan.

Anakalyce oti h N.D. kerdise stis aytodioikhtikes ekloges, epinowntas kai pali thn pagkosmia prwtotypia me to xarth twn nomwn, oi opoioi pleon den yparxoyn me to neo aytodioikhtiko systhma.

Paraplanhse, legontas oti h N.D. ``ebale plath'' sta dyskola ths kybernhshs toy PA.SO.K chfizontas ta misa nomosxedia, gnwrizontas, omws, oloi poly kala oti den chfise oyte mia megalh diarqrwtikh allagh.

Proteine jana diaforetiko meigma politikhs, xwris na mas pei pote poia einai ayth h politikh, ajiopista fysika. Einai h gnwsth magikh syntagh gia thn ejaleich toy elleimmatos se ena xrono, xwris tis qysies toy ellhnikoy laoy.

Antilambanetai kaneis thn agwnia toy, alla anti na epinoei magikes lyseis gia thn ejodo apo thn krish, to kalytero qa htan na prospaqhsei o k. Samaras na brei ena diaforetiko meigma politikhs protashs toy kommatos toy, ths N.D. Ena meigma giati ayth thn politikh poy proteinei shmera, den ejyphretei, oyte ton idio, oyte th xwra.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TZANETATOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia tis dhlwseis toy epikefalhs toy eyrwpaikoy tameioy gia th diaswsh twn oikonomiwn Klaoys Regklingk, symfwna me tis opoies h Germania qa kerdizei apo ta daneia poy exei dwsei pros thn Ellada 600 ekatommyria eyrw to xrono.

PETALWTHS: Den qelw na sxoliasw rhseis kapoiwn paragontwn. Ekeino, omws, to opoio exoyme na poyme, einai oti safws den mas exei xarisei pote kaneis tipote kai den zhthsame apo kanenan na mas dwrisei tipote. Ayto to exoyme pei apo thn prwth stigmh. Kai to legame otan prospaqoysame na peisoyme toys etairoys mas, sthn E.E., oti epiteloys qa prepei na dhmioyrghqei aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs twn xwrwn oi opoies antimetwpizoyn problhmata, me prwth thn Ellada kai isws kai alles xwres kai opws blepoyme ejelissetai se meizon zhthma gia thn Eyrwph. Ara, emeis to mono poy qelame na kanoyme, einai na yparxei enas mhxanismos sthrijhs o opoios qa mporei na mas dinei mia anasa otan oi agores pleon den mporoyn na daneiodothsoyn tis xwres ths Eyrwphs kai fysika ayto kaneis den to kanei anejoda.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh anhsyxei gia tis ejelijeis poy lambanoyn xwra prosfatws sthn Eyrwph; Giati pleon h ``anhsyxia'' twn agorwn leitoyrgei peripoy ws aytoekplhroymenh profhteia. Dhladh, h Irlandia yphxqh sto mhxanismo sthrijhs kai proejofloyn pleon oloi oxi mono oti qa ypaxqei kai h Portogalia, miloyn akomh kai gia thn Ispania. Poies einai oi epiptwseis kai sto diko mas to mhxanismo pleon;

PETALWTHS: Mesa sthn poly dyskolh qesh sthn opoia eixame breqei, giati hmastan h monh xwra poy bghke aqwrakistoi mprosta sthn krish, proteiname kai kataferame na dhmioyrghqei aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs. Exoyme katoxyrwsei mesa apo ena trietes programma staqerothtas na mporoyme, ekplhrwnontas toys stoxoys poy qetoyme, na exoyme amesh kai aneth, ekplhroymenwn twn stoxwn mas fysika, daneiodothsh. Apo ekei kai pera, safws kai mas problhmatizei, safws kai den qeloyme alles xwres ths E.E. na briskontai sthn idia dysxerh qesh. Alla, ekeino to opoio mas anakoyfizei mesa se ayth th dyskolh katastash kai mesa sthn agwnia olwn mas, einai oti epiteloys yparxei aytos o mhxanismos. Akribws ayth thn anhsyxia kai thn agwnia mas, alla kai th sysswreymenh empeiria poy apokthsame, me thn prospaqeia dhmioyrgias aytoy toy mhxanismoy, qa thn ekfrasoyme kai stis 16-17 Dekembrioy sthn Eyrwpaikh Synodo Koryfhs, opoy qa syzhthqoyn leptomereies gi` ayto ton eyrwpaiko mhxanismo sthrijhs. Ekei pisteyoyme oti oloi qa prepei na arqoyme sto ycos ths eyqynhs mas, etsi wste kai oi xwres ths E.E. na mhn kindyneysoyn peraiterw, alla kai na dhmioyrghqei ena asfales plaisio gia thn idia thn eyrwzwnh.

MOYRELATOS: Diafainontai sygkliseis kyrie ekproswpe, metajy twn qesewn poy presbeyei, metajy allwn, kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai twn qesewn poy presbeyei h Germania h proserxomaste se mia synodo koryfhs me dyo sygkekrimena mplok ta opoia ``qa lysoyn tis diafores toys'' ekei;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, gnwrizoyme oti o eyrwpaikos xwros einai enas kat` ejoxhn xwros diapragmateysewn oi opoies hdh arxisan na ginontai. Einai logiko to na yparxoyn diaforetikes protaseis, qeseis kai diaforetikes proseggiseis. Pisteyw, oti qa prepei na to doyme ws mia gonimh eykairia, na yparxei kai mia sygklish aytwn twn apocewn. Mexri tis 16 Dekembrioy qa yparxei mia proergasia kai elpizoyme gia to kalo twn xwrwn ths E.E., alla kai ths eyrwzwnhs na yparxei sygklish, etsi wste aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos na katoxyrwnei plhrws thn aytotelh oikonomikh yparjh twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, alla kai thn asfaleia ths eyrwzwnhs.

ZAFEIRIADOY: O Prwqypoyrgos me epistolh toy zhthse apo toys ypoyrgoys mexri shmera na toy exoyn aposteilei se listes ierarxhmenes proteraiothtes toys. Posoi to exoyn kanei;

PETALWTHS: H proqesmia, as moy epitrapei h ekfrash, den exei lhjei. Oloi oi ypoyrgoi qa antapokriqoyn.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie ypoyrge, diabazoyme shmera stis efhmerides oti yparxei mia ejelijh oson afora toys symbasioyxoys apo Qessalonikh jekinwntas, oti kerdisan kapoia prosfygh. Qa hqela na rwthsw ayto ean dhmioyrgei kai problhma sto mnhmonio.

PETALWTHS: Emeis, apo thn prwth stigmh poy analabame thn kybernhsh ths xwras qesame to zhthma twn proslhcewn twn sympolitwn mas sto dhmosio, oi opoioi ergazontai me diaforetikes symbaseis ergoy. Eipame oti qa prepei na stamathsei h omhria anqrwpwn poy doyleyan ypotiqetai me stage, enw htan mia morfh ergasias kai oxi maqhteias, opws qa eprepe na einai. Eipame oti qa katarghsoyme ayth thn paqogeneia dekaetiwn poy einai oi symbaseis orismenoy xronoy, oi opoies oysiastika ypokaqistoysan tis monimes sxeseis ergasias, me o,ti ayto synepagetai kai eis baros toy ergazomenoy, alla kai eis baros toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy kai ayto kaname. Emeis eixame thn politikh boylhsh kai ayth thn politikh boylhsh synexizoyme. Einai mia parametros thn opoia meletame. Einai qema ths Dikaiosynhs. Den prokeitai na apostoyme apo ayth th qesh mas. Kai fysika, to mnhmonio den kindyneyei se tipote, apo ayth thn politikh apofash poy qa paroyn. Oytws h allws, prokeitai gia mia gnwmodothsh kai oxi gia apofash.

MARAQIAS: Diabazoyme shmera stis efhmerides oti enocei kai ths 4hs doshs, alla kai toy ergoy poy prepei na epitelesei h kybernhsh, prepei na prowqhqoyn sth Boylh pros chfish peripoy 60 nomosxedia, ta opoia alla einai megalyterhs isws barythtas se sxesh me thn ylopoihsh kai thn prowqhsh twn epitagwn toy mnhmonioy. Pws qa akoloyqhqei ayth h diadikasia, th stigmh poy nomizw oti o kanonismos ths Boylhs, den epitrepei diadikasies ejpres kai malista gia tosa polla nomosxedia poy qa katateqoyn sth Boylh.

PETALWTHS: Ginetai ierarxhsh ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, ths nomoqetikhs diadikasias kai prwtoboylias ths kybernhshs. Den yparxei periptwsh, qa breqei h diadikasia. To ajioshmeiwto einai oti yparxei enas sygkekrimenos sxediasmos paragwghs nomoqetikoy ergoy poy kanei pragmatika tis megales anatropes kai tis megales allages. As mhn jexname oti katatiqentai nomosxedia kai malista mesa apo synqetes diadikasies diaboyleyshs kai oxi ayqairetes, ta opoia kalyptoyn zhthmata dekaetiwn. Ayto einai to parhgoro kai pragmatika einai poly shmantiko na blepoyme na ginetai ena toso pykno politiko kai nomoqetiko ergo apo ayth thn kybernhsh kai malista me synqhkes oi opoies oysiastika einai synqhkes ektakths anagkhs.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, akoysa shmera ton k. Samara na leei oti qa prosferei synainesh mono sthn periptwsh poy h kybernhsh allajei politikh. Kai sas rwtw: Eisaste proqymoi na kanete kati tetoio, wste na prosferei o k. Samaras th synainesh toy;

PETALWTHS: Emeis th synainesh th zhtame ap' oles tis politikes dynameis. Kai ap' oles tis koinwnikes dynameis. Enapokeitai sthn eyqynh toy kaqenos. O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs exei ek twn pragmatwn enan ayjhmeno politiko rolo kai mia ayjhmenh politikh eyqynh enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy, na antilhfqei se poia katastash briskomaste. Na antilhfqei to megeqos ths eyqynhs toy kommatos toy opoioy hgeitai kai to opoio mas odhghse s' ayto to shmeio poy briskomaste shmera. Kai fysika, opws exoyme pei polles fores, alla to exoyn pei kai alloi politikoi arxhgoi, h synainesh  a la carte den isxyei. Ayto poy prepei na epidiwketai einai h synainesh panw se basikes syntetagmenes, oi opoies exoyn amesh sxesh me thn oikonomikh epibiwsh ths xwras mas, alla kai th beltiwsh toy epipedoy ths zwhs twn sympolitwn mas. Kaqenas mporei na krathsei tis ideologikes toy apoceis kai na exei tis dikes toy politikes proseggiseis. Emeis den zhtame tetoioy eidoys taytish, dioti sth Dhmokratia kati tetoio qa htan kati anefikto. Ean o k. Samaras antilambanetai me ayto ton tropo th synainesh, einai diko toy qema. Emeis zhtame kai qa epidiwkoyme th synainesh me bash tis arxes poy proanefera. Apo ekei kai pera, kaqenas einai ypologos kai ypeyqynos apenanti ston ellhniko lao.

MPOTWNHS: Pote, kyrie ypoyrge, qa ekdhlwqei ayth h prwtoboylia apo ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PETALWTHS: Den exei akomh prosdiorisqei o xronos. H prwtoboylia ayth mporei na proslabei polles morfes. Qa prosdiorisqei xronika kai qa anakoinwqei.

POLYMEROS: Kyrie ekproswpe, milhsate prohgoymenws gia ena bary nomoqetiko ergo, to opoio qa prepei na oloklhrwqei mesa se treis mhnes. H antipoliteysh sas kathgorei oti osa den kanate mesa se ena, enamish xrono poy eisaste kybernhsh, kaleisqe na ta kanete mesa se treis mhnes. Einai eylogo to erwthma: Poy sthrizete ayth thn aisiodojia oti qa kataferete mesa se treis mhnes na ylopoihsete olo ayto to megalo eyros twn nomoqetikwn ryqmisewn poy prepei na parete;

PETALWTHS: H politikh boylhsh yparxei. Ayto einai to megalo zhtoymeno sthn politikh drash. Kai apo th stigmh poy emeis exoyme labei tis apofaseis mas kai apo th stigmh poy yparxei h boylhsh kai xronos yparxei, etsi wste oi nomoqetikes diadikasies na diekperaiwqoyn. Emeis apodeijame oti se ena molis xrono kai malista me tetoies synqhkes, mporesame kai pragmatopoihsame ergo, to opoio den eixe ginei edw kai polles dekaeties. H antipoliteysh qa prepei na sygkrinei to ergo poy epiteleitai shmera me to ergo ths N.D. otan h teleytaia eixe th diakybernhsh ths xwras epi mia sxedon ejaetia. Dhladh, na sygkrinei to apolytws tipota, tolmw na pw egw, toylaxiston se epipedo megalwn allagwn, me thn ergwdh prospaqeia toy teleytaioy etoys, poy eimaste emeis sthn kybernhsh kai malista me tis idiaiterothtes ths katastashs poy oloi gnwrizoyme. Synepws, o xronos einai eparkhs, otan yparxei boylhsh. Kai ayth h kybernhsh apedeije oti kai boylhsh yparxei kai malista me taxyteres diadikasies kai me mia epispeysh poy qa ferei kai to apotelesma to opoio epidiwkoyme.

MARAQIAS: Mporeite na mas peite poia nomosxedia prohgoyntai;

PETALWTHS: Qa yparjei ierarxhsh kai ep' ayths qa yparjoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie ekproswpe, ti skopeyei na kanei to Megaro Majimoy me ypoyrgoys oi opoioi eite kwlysiergoyn, eite den paradidoyn entos xronodiagrammatos tis draseis poy prepei na exoyn oloklhrwsei; Kai to erwtw ayto, dioti shmera yparxoyn dhmosieymata, ta opoia ypainissontai akomh kai apopomph apo to kybernhtiko sxhma apo edw kai pera, sthn periptwsh poy ypoyrgoi den einai synepeis me ta xronodiagrammata toys.

PETALWTHS: Oi ypoyrgoi ayths ths kybernhshs exoyn apodeijei oti ergazontai poly sklhra. Toso sklhra poy kaneis den mporoyse na dianohqei olo ayto to xroniko diasthma. Kai fysika, yparxei kai h protroph toy Prwqypoyrgoy na epispeysqoyn oles oi diadikasies, giati fqasame s' ena shmeio, se mia fash, opoy oi stoxoi mas ylopoioyntai. As mhn jexname oti me bash toys stoxoys poy ylopoioyme, hdh, exei apofasisqei kai qa ektamieyqei entos oligoy kai h 3h dosh. Dhladh, treis doseis gia kalych twn daneiakwn mas anagkwn, oi opoies fysika den qa mas eixan katablhqei, ean den yphrxe paroysiash sygkekrimenoy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Kaqe fash, omws, einai diaforetikh. Synepws, wrimazei kai to ergo to opoio exoyme na epitelesoyme apo edw kai pera. Epomenws, yparxei kai xronos kai diaqesh kai sklhrh doyleia ap' oloys toys ypoyrgoys, poy qa to pragmatopoihsoyn.

MOYRELATOS: Qewrei, dhladh, to Megaro Majimoy oti oloi anejairetws oi ypoyrgoi exoyn anoijei to bhma toys kai proxwroyn, entos twn problepomenwn xronodiagrammatwn, tis draseis toys;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei periptwsh na shmeiwqei kapoia kaqysterhsh, ayto omws ofeiletai se antikeimenikes dyskolies. Pantws, se kaqe periptwsh, h boylhsh apo oloys toys ypoyrgoys yparxei kai einai dedomenh. Kai h boylhsh ayth qa apodeixqei me to ergo poy paragoyn oloi entos sygkekrimenoy xronikoy plaisioy.

LIONAKHS: Isxyei oti se ayto to plaisio toy kalyteroy syntonismoy poy epiqymei h kybernhsh, exei apofasisqei na topoqethqoyn kapoioi empeirognwmones sta ypoyrgeia, wste na parakoloyqoyn to ergo kai toys proypologismoys toys;

PETALWTHS: Syntonismos yparxei sthn kybernhsh. Syntonisths einai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Me nomo, o opoios exei hdh chfisqei, yparxei ypallhlos toy kaqe ypoyrgeioy kai oxi toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn, o opoios me enan epibohqhtiko kai epikoyriko rolo, se sxesh me ta oikonomika toylaxiston toy kaqe ypoyrgeioy gia ton periorismo twn dapanwn kai thn yparjh oikonomikoy programmatismoy, symballei, etsi wste kaqe ypoyrgeio na ginei pio apodotiko.

Eyxaristw.

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