Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-10-27

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Tetarth, 27 Oktwbrioy 2010

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 27 Oktwbrioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Edw ki ena xrono, mesa se ena idiaitera dysmenes periballon kai ypo prwtofaneis synqhkes gia th xwra, dinoyme maxh gia thn epanastash toy aytonohtoy. Paleyoyme kaqhmerina me tis xronies paqogeneies kai ta polla kai sysswreymena problhmata, se oloys toys tomeis toy kratoys kai ths oikonomias. Allazoyme th xwra mera me th mera kai ayto pleon einai emfanes kai stoys polites kai sth dieqnh koinothta.

Oi pro ligwn mhnwn dieqneis epikrites mas antilambanontai thn terastia prospaqeia poy ginetai gia th dhmosionomikh taktopoihsh kai peiqarxia ths xwras, alla kai thn terastia prospaqeia toy ellhnikoy laoy poy, pragmatika, mesa apo qysies epizhta oysiastikes allages poy qa anabaqmisoyn th dhmosia zwh kai synepws thn kaqhmerinothta twn idiwn twn politwn.

Kai ayth einai h megalh mas proteraiothta. Shmera, oloi syneidhtopoioyn thn epitaktikh anagkh gia thn aproskopth synexish twn allagwn kai kyriws oi polites poy ypesthsan qysies, qeloyn na tis doyn na ajiopoioyntai sto bwmo ths dhmioyrgias mias diaforetikhs Elladas.

Dystyxws, kapoioi nostalgoyn to parelqon kai den antexoyn h den qeloyn na allajei kati ston topo. Einai aytoi poy apoqewsan kata to parelqon thn anajiokratia, th spatalh, thn kakodiaxeirish kai gigantwsan th diafqora kai tis pelateiakes sxeseis. Einai aytoi, shmera, poy fwnazoyn aneyqyna dhqen kata toy mnhmonioy kai yposxontai magikes formoyles gia na jeperastei h krish me to mhdenismo toy elleimmatos se ena xrono.

Arage, o k. Samaras sth Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos shmera kai ayrio, qa exei to qarros na pei oti aytos kai h paratajh toy katebainoyn s aytes tis aytodioikhtikes ekloges, me prometwpida kata toy mnhmonioy kai qa analysei arage s ayth th Synodo, mprosta stoys Eyrwpaioys, tis magikes lyseis gia mhdenismo toy elleimmatos; Pragmatika qa qelame na to doyme.

Shmera, einai epitaktikh anagkh na syneidhtopoihsoyme oloi th sobarothta ths katastashs. Na analogistoyme tis eyqynes mas kai na tis analaboyme. Na diafylajoyme thn politikh staqerothta kai thn koinwnikh synoxh. Na diasfalisoyme th staqerothta ths poreias ths xwras kai na mhn epitrecoyme se kanenan na th qesei se kindyno. Kai emeis, ws ypeyqynh kybernhsh ayths ths xwras, ayto prattoyme.

Parakalw gia tis erwthseis sas.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, aspazetai h kybernhsh tis protaseis toy k. Probopoyloy;

PETALWTHS: O k. Probopoylos ws Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, opws kaqe xrono, kateqese thn ethsia ekqesh ths Trapezas. Fysika, osa anaferontai s aythn den einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. S' ayth thn ekqesh yparxei mia sygkekrimenh analysh ths oikonomikhs katastashs ths xwras mas kai diatypwnontai kapoies protaseis. H kybernhsh sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn poy exei, twn kyriarxikwn armodiothtwn, skeftetai, diaboyleyetai, epejergazetai oles tis protaseis poy katatiqentai kai apofasizei, panw sthn poreia thn opoia exei xarajei h idia.

KOYTRAS: Qa ginoyn apodektes kapoies apo tis protaseis toy k. Probopoyloy;

PETALWTHS: O k. Probopoylos anakoinwse xqes tis protaseis poy anaferontai sthn ekqesh. Einai teleiws diaforetikh h qesh toy k. Probopoyloy apo th qesh ths kybernhshs. Einai diaforetikoi oi roloi kai fysika kai oi protaseis poy diatypwnontai exoyn allh diastash.

KOYTRAS: Qa kleisete KAPH, opws proteinei o k. Probopoylos h qa syrriknwsete ta kratika kanalia;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme deijei pws blepoyme thn kaqhmerinothta toy polith. Qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti ta KAPH dhmioyrghqhkan epi PASOK. Emeis hmastan aytoi poy prwtoi ap oloys, dwsame bash sthn trith hlikia. Kai fysika, to koinwniko kratos edraiwqhke epi PA.SO.K. Mesa s aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes, emeis to proaspizomaste. Alla, an den kanw laqos, o k. Probopoylos milhse gia thn poly megalh spatalh h opoia yparxei kai fysika gia tis xronies streblwseis. Kai ola ayta dhmioyrghqhkan mesa apo thn kataspatalhsh ths ejaetias ths diakybernhshs ths N.D., kai ayto einai mia pragmatikothta. To koinwniko kratos, omws, emeis to exoyme se proteraiothta kai eidika de s aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes poy meterxetai h xwra mas.

TSAKIRHS: Oi antapokriseis poy erxontai apo th Nea Yorkh, apo thn edra toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, lene oti yparxoyn enstaseis apo thn pleyra toys, oson afora to qema twn prowrwn eklogwn. Malista, lene xarakthristika oti kati tetoio qa tinaze ston aera to mnhmonio. Epishs, epifylajeis yparxoyn kai apo thn E.E. Exei metabibasei ston Prwqypoyrgo h troika tis anhsyxies ths gi ayto to endexomeno;

PETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos ebale se mia bash to ti shmainoyn aytes oi ekloges gia mas kai posh megalh spoydaiothta exoyn kai ws aytodioikhtiko gegonos, alla kai gia thn poreia ths xwras mas. Kai fysika den exoyme kamia epishmh dhlwsh oyte apo thn troika, oyte apo to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio, gia na mporoyme na to sxoliasoyme.

TSAKIRHS: Qa enhmerwsei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos ayrio toys hgetes ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia thn proqesh toy, an xasei stis aytodioikhtikes ekloges na paei se prowres ekloges;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap ola proqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs einai na synexisei to poly megalo ergo poy kanei. Ayth einai h bash sthn opoia syzhtame. Ara, den yparxei kati pros enhmerwsh.

MPELEGRHS: Apo th Deytera, meta th synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, blepoyme mia anodo twn spreads. Kai xqes kai shmera eidame kai ypoyrgoys na bgainoyn, me synenteyjeis toys, kai na yperaspizontai to dilhmma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Sas problhmatizei; Giati mporei mexri tis ekloges na ftasoyme sto epipedo toy Maioy gia ta spreads.

PETALWTHS: H antidrash twn agorwn sta spreads deixnei akribws ti shmainei an yparxei staqerothta sth xwra. Ayto poy kanoyme emeis shmera ws kybernhsh, einai na diafylassoyme ayth th staqerothta. Alla einai aytonohto kai eynohto oti an den yparxei staqerothta sth xwra, qa blepoyme anodo sta spreads. Emeis omws, exoyme kai xreos kai exoyme toys tropoys na diafylajoyme ayth th staqerothta, gia thn opoia exei kanei qysies o idios o ellhnikos laos. Synepws, ola ayta ta lambanoyme kai prepei na ta lambanoyme, oloi ypoch mas, ap opoia qesh toy politikoy skhnikoy ki an briskomaste. Gi ayto milhsame gia wra eyqynhs. Gi ayto milhsame gia ypeyqynothta poy qa prepei na deijei kyriws h antipoliteysh. Giati o ellhnikos laos thn exei deijei, h kybernhsh th deixnei, menei sthn antipoliteysh na staqei ajia twn peristasewn, wste na mhn yparxei astaqeia sth xwra.

PAPPA: En toytois, kyrie Ekproswpe, h kritikh poy askoyn arketoi boyleytes toy PASOK einai oti o Prwqypoyrgos me thn emfanish toy proxqes sthn thleorash, eqese poly chla sthn atzenta to qema ths eklogologias kai ws ek toytoy ayto mporei na odhghsei kai se piqanh apostaqeropoihsh toy politikoy skhnikoy.

PETALWTHS: Emeis me tis prajeis mas diafylassoyme th staqerothta toy politikoy skhnikoy, diafylassoyme th megalh prospaqeia poy kanei o ellhnikos laos kai thn poreia poy exoyme xarajei, ws kybernhsh, gia tis megales allages gia na bgoyme apo thn krish. Apo ekei kai pera, to na eimaste eilikrineis kai na bazoyme se mia bebaih bash ta diakybeymata kai aytwn twn eklogwn, nomizw oti den briskei kanenan antiqeto. Isa - isa einai mia prajh eilikrineias kai eyqynhs olwn mas.

SPANOY: Qa hqela na moy dieykrinisete an endexomenh nikh toy k. Dhmara h mia poly kalh eklogikh epidosh apotelei htta h oxi gia to PA.SO.K. Giati akoysa stelexh opws o k. Boydoyrhs, o boyleyths Messhnias, tis prohgoymenes hmeres ton k. Boygia, na lene oti o k. Dhmaras einai splaxno apo ta splaxna ths paratajhs kai h kalh toy epidosh den apotelei problhma gia to PA.SO.K.

PETALWTHS: Emeis den qa meinoyme se proswpa kai fysika den qa asxolhqoyme me ena proswpo mono, gia na poyme an yparxei nikh h htta toy PA.SO.K. Emeis dinoyme ayth th maxh twn aytodioikhtikwn eklogwn, me staqeres qeseis. Th dinoyme mesa apo mia allagh oxi mono ths Aytodioikhshs, alla kai toy epitelikoy kratoys kai toy politikoy systhmatos synolika, giati aytes oi ekloges einai poly shmantikes, kaqws apoteloyn to enaysma gia thn efarmogh ths epanastashs toy ``Kallikrath''. Kai fysika, kanoyme kai sygkekrimenes epiloges. Einai safes oti nikh gia emas qa einai otan yperisxysoyn aytes oi sygkekrimenes epiloges poy exoyme kanei kai fysika den ejantleitai h syzhthsh se ena h dyo proswpa.

SEGKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes synedriase to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ths Toyrkias kai asxolhqhke me ta qemata toy Aigaioy. Malista, symfwna me toyrkika MME, syzhthqhke ena senario poy leei oti ta ellhnika xwrika ydata qa epektaqoyn se orismenes perioxes 7 me 8 naytika milia. Omws ayto, epi ths oysias, einai syrriknwsh ean skeftoyme oti exoyme to dikaiwma na ta epekteinoyme sta 12 naytika milia. Kai qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h kybernhsh syzhtaei en kryptw me thn Toyrkia ayto to qema, twn xwrikwn ydatwn.

PETALWTHS: Ta senaria poy syzhtaei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ths Toyrkias den mas aforoyn. Emas mas afora h pagia qesh poy exei h ellhnikh kybernhsh ws pros ayta ta zhthmata. Fysika, den yparxei mystikh diplwmatia kai fysika den prokeitai na kanoyme oyte ena bhma pisw apo ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata.

SEGKOS: Isxyei, dhladh, to dikaiwma ths Elladas na epekteinei ta xwrika ths ydata sta 12 naytika milia;

PETALWTHS: H Ellada exei anakoinwsei polles fores ayth thn arxh. Den yparxei kamia allagh ep aytoy.

BLABIANOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an synexisete na qewreite filh kai synergasimh kybernhsh xwras, ejexon stelexos ths opoias, opws einai o k. Mpagis, dhlwse xqes, se eyrwpaiko qesmiko organo, symfwna me thlegrafhma toy aqhnaikoy praktoreioy oti sth Kypro yparxei mia xwra sta notia thn opoia den anagnwrizoyme kai den jeroyme an einai kan xwra.

PETALWTHS: Oi qeseis ths Toyrkias einai gnwstes edw kai xronia. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, to Symboylio Asfaleias exei pagies qeseis ws pros to kypriako. Melhma kai ths ellhnikhs kai ths kypriakhs pleyras einai na ergazomaste me bash tis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Asfaleias gia thn epilysh toy kypriakoy. Na mhn jexname, epishs, oti h Kypriakh Dhmokratia einai xwra - melos ths E.E. Ean kapoioi gia dikoys toys logoys, opws o k. Mpagis h h Toyrkia synolika, qelei na exei mia diaforetikh qewrhsh einai dikaiwma ths. Dikaiwma olwn mas, omws, einai na anagnwrizoyme to kypriako kratos, to opoio einai to mono poy yparxei ekei.

BLABIANOS: An moy epitrepete, qelw na epimeinw. Ean eseis synexizete san kybernhsh na qewreite filh kai synergasimh th kybernhsh ths xwras ayths, ths opoias stelexos ypoyrgos kanei tetoioy eidoys dhlwsh.

PETALWTHS: Ayto anefera, oti einai gnwsth kai pagia h qesh ths Toyrkias, den einai mia kainoyrgia qesh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, prwta apo ola, ergazomaste etsi wste na yparxei epilysh toy kypriakoy, me bash ta chfismata toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE.

LIONAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Oli Ren diafwnhse xqes me thn tropopoihsh ths Lisabonas poy zhtaei h Gallia kai h Germania. Ayrio sth Synodo Koryfhs poia anamenetai na einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: Qa yparxei syzhthsh h opoia qa anakoinwqei.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Papoytshs syzhthse me ton Gallo omologo toy kai opws dhlwse, toylaxiston, o Gallos omologos toy qa anaptyxqoyn peripoy diakosioi synoriofylakes ths FRONTEX sta ellhnotoyrkika synora. Apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias omws exoyn arxisei na ekfrazontai epifylajeis kai qelw na rwthsw ean sthn prosfath synanthsh toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Erntogan ekanan kapoia syzhthsh ep aytoy.

PETALWTHS: O k. Papandreoy ontws eqese ston k. Erntogan to megalo zhthma poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas me thn aqroa eleysh laqrometanastwn toso apo ta qalassia, oso kai apo ta xersaia synora mas. Gia emas einai ena shmantiko zhthma. Oytws h allws anadeiknyetai kaqe mera. Gia ayto akribws qewroyme oti einai poly shmantikh h epityxia oti o k. Papoytshs eqese to zhthma sthn E.E., etsi wste h FRONTEX - h eyrwpaikh dynamh - na analabei tis eyqynes ths, ws pros th fylajh twn xersaiwn synorwn sto epipedo toy na apotrepetai h roh twn laqrometanastwn. Giati einai kai ypoxrewsh ths E.E. mias kai h xwra mas ws gnwsto apotelei to prwto skalopati gia thn eleysh aytwn twn laqrometanastwn, synhqws oikonomikwn, sthn E.E. Kai to qetiko poy krinoyme, fysika, einai oti yphrxe antapokrish apo ton Gallo omologo toy ypoyrgo Metanasteyshs, o opoios proetrece, malista, afoy dexqhke ayth thn protash toy k. Papoytsh kai toys alloys Eyrwpaioys etairoys na prajoyn to idio, etsi wste h FRONTEX na analabei kaqhkonta kai sta xersaia synora.

MPELEGRHS: Xqes to brady ekane frastikh epiqesh o Mikhs Qeodwrakhs proswpika ston Prwqypoyrgo. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanena sxolio.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me thn organwsh ``Dieqnhs Diafaneia'' baqmologoymaste me 3,5 enanti 3,8. Akomh kai to 2009 eimaste ths 78h qesh an den kanw laqos pagkosmiws kai teleytaioi sthn E.E. Gia mia kybernhsh poy exei ws shmaia th diafaneia qewreite oti eimaste se kalo dromo;

PETALWTHS: Emeis anagnwrizoyme to problhma, to apotypwnoyme, eimaste oi prwtoi poy to apotypwnoyme. Den mporoyme na krybomaste, oyte boleyei se tipota o stroyqokamhlismos poy yphrxe stis prohgoymenes periodoys. Yparxei diafora, to gnwrizoyme. Melhma mas einai na yparjei diafaneia se ola ta epipeda giati monon etsi gnwrizoyme oti mporoyme na pame mprosta. Safws kai mas problhmatizei h qesh h opoia pairnoyme me sygkekrimena fysika krithria, alla den xreiazotan na doyme kamia ekqesh gia na antilhfqoyme ayto poy apotypwnei kai h ekqesh me kapoia dika ths krithria. Apo ekei kai pera, ayto einai ena xronio qema, to opoio den antimetwpizetai mesa se ena xrono kai h beltiwsh toy qa fanei sta epomena xronia. Emeis ws kybernhsh, mesa molis se ena xrono, katabalame terasties prospaqeies gia thn empedwsh ths diafaneias, gia thn katapolemhsh ths diafqoras, akomh kai me thn eisagwgh toy antikeimenikoy systhmatos proslhcewn sto Dhmosio, alla kai tis proagwges mesa sto idio to Dhmosio. Alla kai to gegonos oti prokalesame akomh kai synodo twn arxhgwn twn kommatwn ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, opoy syzhthqhkan kai protaqhkan apo ton Prwqypoyrgo mia seira apo metra kata ths diafqoras. Ayta ta metra, omws, gia na apodwsoyn, xreiazetai enas makroxronios orizontas. Emeis prospaqoyme kaqe mera na periorizoyme thn diafqora opoy yparxei kai h diafaneia einai shmaia mas. To leme kai to ennooyme.

MIXAHL: Symfwna me ta reportaz olwn twn efhmeridwn o Prwqypoyrgos xqes egine dekths paraponwn apo ton Mhtropolith Qessalonikhs k. Anqimo gia frastikh antiparaqesh poy eixe me ton k. Mpoytarh kai malista feretai na toy eipe oti ``oso egw qa eimai sthn ekklhsia den prokeitai na gineis Dhmarxos sthn polh''. H parembash ayth ths ekklhsias opws kai ligo kairo prin gia to qema twn bibliwn sas apasxolei; Kai ti lete;

PETALWTHS: Den einai parembash ths ekklhsias, einai parembash toy k. Anqimoy. Kaqenas sthn Ellada exei th dikh toy qesh, exei tis dikes toy armodiothtes , ayto to exoyme katakthsei edw kai para polla xronia kai kaqenas paramenei kyrios twn armodiothtwn toy.

TSAKIRHS: Ti apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos ston k. Anqimo;

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa. Ayth einai h qesh mas.

TSAKIRHS: Epimenete oti to dillhma poy eqese o Prwqypoyrgos sth diakanalikh den einai ekbiastiko; Olh h antipoliteysh sas kathgorei gia ekbiasmo.

PETALWTHS: Einai safes oti h antipoliteysh exei elleimma prosanatolismoy oxi mono stis aytodioikhtikes ekloges, opoy ekane shmaia to antimnhmonio kai twra kathgorei thn kybernhsh oti kanei ekbiasmo. Alla genikotera exei ena elleimma strathgikhs gia to pws qa kinhqei apo dw kai pera. Kai fysika ayto to blepoyme kyriws kai sth N.D., alla kai sta kommata ths aristeras. Emeis den ekbiazoyme. Emas mas aneqese o ellhnikos laos ena poly dyskolo ergo kai ayto to ergo emeis qa to feroyme se peras. Apo ekei kai pera, exoyme thn ypoxrewsh na eimaste eilikrineis apenanti ston ellhniko lao kai na kaloyme oloys na analambanoyn tis eyqynes toys se ayth th dyskolh stigmh. Ean ayto h antipoliteysh to qewrei ekbiasmo, profanws exei xasei to politiko metro.

KOYTRAS: Qa anaqewrhsete k. Ekproswpe tis oikonomikes sas probleceis; Kai to lew giati o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn to prwi katarxas epibebaiwse oti to elleimma toy 2009 qa einai panw apo 15%, omws allaje kai ena apo ta basika megeqh toy 2011, kaqws miloysate gia 2,5% syrriknwsh toy AEP kai pame sto 3%, profanws mporei na ginei kai perissotero. Kata synepeia h litothta qa synexistei. Dhladh, pws qa kataferei h kybernhsh to 2012 na einai to etos anaptyjhs;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme qesei - kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn - polles fores ti shmainei to 2011, ti shmainei to 2012 kai to 2013 poy einai h ejodos apo thn krish.

KOYTRAS: Nai, alla den bgainei pia.

PETALWTHS: Exoyme dwsei analytika ola ta stoixeia. Ayto poy leme ayth th stigmh einai oti aparegklita throyme kai prepei na throyme toys stoxoys mas. Efoson toys throyme, bgainoyn kai ta noymera kai ta dedomena poy exoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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