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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 7 Ioynioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 271733043

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 7 Ioynioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri kai kalh ebdomada.

Shmantiko stoixhma gia thn kybernhsh apotelei h beltiwsh ths poiothtas zwhs toy Ellhna polith. Shmantiko rolo se ayto paizei, asfalws, to aisqhma asfaleias. Oloi mas epiqymoyme na biwnoyme sthn kaqhmerinothta mas ena aisqhma asfaleias poy idiaitera ta teleytaia xronia den htan se qesh na emfyshsei to kratos. Einai gnwstoi oi qesmoi poy exoyn eisaxqei kai se ligo qa dhmosiopoihqoyn kai stoixeia kai gia thn apotelesmatikothta toy ``astynomikoy ths geitonias'' kai gia olh th drash ths antiegklhmatikhs politikhs ths Kybernhshs.

Asfaleia toy polith, omws, den einai mono ayto. Oi polites gia na aisqanontai kai na einai asfaleis, prepei na mhn afhnontai ermaia se mia akatasxeth fhmologia diaforwn poy klonizei thn oikonomikh asfaleia kai thn cyxologia toys.

To teleytaio diasthma, ginomaste martyres, diaforwn fhmwn gia dhqen epistrofh sth draxmh, dhqen anadiarqrwseis xreoys, ybridika systhmata xrhmatos kai alla poy akoyme gia prwth fora. Einai fanero pws tetoia diaspora, plhrws anypostatwn fhmwn, mono sygxysh kai apoprosanatolismo prokalei sthn prospaqeia poy kataballei sysswmh h ellhnikh koinwnia, gia thn asfalh ejodo apo thn krish.

Diaceydoyme kathgorhmatika ola ayta ta eyfantasta senaria, ap` opoy kai an proerxontai, ap` opoy kai an ekporeyontai, me opoio tropo kai an diadidontai sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Kai epanalambanoyme -fysika, einai aytonohto gia mas oti den tiqetai qema ptwxeyshs, den tiqetai qema epistrofhs sth draxmh h otidhpote allo akoygetai olo ayto to diasthma.

Oi polites prepei na aisqanontai asfaleis, me bash kai to programma poy ylopoiei h kybernhsh. Ena programma staqerothtas poy qa mas balei se allh poreia, apo edw kai pera.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

POLYMEROS: Panw se ayto poy eipate, gia to orgio fhmwn. Poy nomizete oti aposkopoyn aytoi poy bgazoyn aytes tis fhmes, ti qeloyn na poyn gia th xwra mas, gia thn oikonomia, genikotera; Poy to apodidete, dhladh, eseis ayto; Einai stoixhma twn kerdoskopwn gia na pontaroyn panw se mia xreokophmenh xwra;

PETALWTHS: Ypoqeseis kai eikasies den mporw na kanw gi` ayto to zhthma. Ean, omws, qeloyme pragmatika na krathsoyme thn koinwnikh synoxh, na stamathsoyme na asxoloymaste me zhthmata poy den yfistantai, me zhthmata poy epiteinoyn thn anasfaleia toy Ellhna polith, qa prepei na doyme thn kybernhtikh politikh. Mia politikh h opoia exei safes stigma kai mas kalyptei kai anaptyjiaka, alla kai politika. Kai ayto einai ena megalo zhthma kai einai eyqynh olwn mas, olwn osoi diamorfwnoyme kai thn koinh gnwmh, olwn twn politikwn kai koinwnikwn dynamewn.

XIDIROGLOY: Den katalaba ti mas eipate sthn arxh. Milhsate gia aisqhma asfaleias, anaferqhkate sthn antiegklhmatikh politikh, sthn apotelesmatikothta kai milhsate gia oikonomikh asfaleia. Exw thn entypwsh oti prospaqhsate na apodwsete koinwniologika aitia sthn ejarsh ths egklhmatikothtas thn opoia antimetwpizei o poliths shmera. Balate mesa tis fhmes gia thn epistrofh sth draxmh ktl. Exoyme, omws, se praktiko epipedo, oi geitonies ths Aqhnas kai twn allwn ellhnikwn polewn biwnoyn ton tromo, sthn kyriolejia. Exete mia apanthsh gia to ti qa kanei h kybernhsh oson afora thn katapolemhsh ths egklhmatikothtas, poy biwnoyn oi Ellhnes polites;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, milaw politika kai den milaw koinwniologika. Aplws, eipa oti h asfaleia exei polles diastaseis. Kai h asfaleia sthn kaqhmerinothta mas einai ena poly shmantiko zhthma. O Ellhnas poliths prepei na aisqanetai asfalhs etsi wste na energei xwris cyxologikoys ekbiasmoys kai periorismoys sthn kaqhmerinothta toy. Oson afora se ayto poy eipate gia thn egklhmatikothta: Yparxei safes sxedio antiegklhmatikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs gia to 2010-2014. Ayto ejeidikeyetai, ylopoieitai kai osoi kykloforoyme stis poleis gnwrizoyme th drash ths omadas ``DIAS'' kai th drash sygkekrimenwn astynomikwn monadwn, me skopo na biwnei o Ellhnas poliths thn asfaleia kai sthn kaqhmerinothta toy. Apo ekei kai pera, kaneis den mporei na arnhqei oti yparxoyn esties poy pragmatika prokaloyn to dhmosio aisqhma, esties poy dhmioyrgoyn anasfaleia ston Ellhna polith. Ayto, omws, den lynetai apo th mia stigmh sthn allh. Einai qema stoxeymenhs politikhs kai emeis, ayto akribws prospaqoyme na kanoyme.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na mpw sth logikh ths asfaleias toy polith. Kai einai safes oti yparxoyn orismena pragmata poy den mporei na ginoyn apo th mia stigmh sthn allh. Omws, yparxoyn kai orismena pragmata poy den mporei na perimenoyn. Kai anaferomai sthn katastash poy yparxei sta nosokomeia. Exw periptwseis anqrwpwn poy exoyn mpei sta nosokomeia gia na kanoyn egxeirhseis kai den mporoyn giati den yparxoyn ta ylika sta dhmosia nosokomeia. Ti qa kanete me ayto; Yparxoyn giatroi poy den exoyn plhrwqei tis yperwries to teleytaio diasthma. To ellhniko dhmosio den plhrwnei tis ypoxrewseis toy, se polles periptwseis. Ti qa kanete gia ola ayta;

PETALWTHS: To qema twn paroxwn ygeias, eidikotera se prwtobaqmio epipedo, einai para poly shmantiko. Ayto einai dedomeno. Emeis eimaste aytoi oi opoioi kai prin tis ekloges, alla kai twra qetoyme th dhmosia ygeia ws ena apo ta anwtera agaqa kai ws proteraiothta. Einai gnwsto, omws, oti yparxoyn xronies paqogeneies. Kai ayto den einai ypekfygh oyte dikaiologia oyte profash. To ti ginetai me ta ylika sta nosokomeia to gnwrizoyme edw kai para poly kairo. Gnwrizame prin apo tis ekloges - kai to eixame kataggeilei- oti se polla nosokomeia ths Aqhnas den yphrxan gazes kai anagkazontan asqeneis kai synodoi na fernoyn tis gazes. Toylaxiston, shmera, den eimaste se ayto to epipedo. Emeis hmastan aytoi poy balame, sthn ylopoihsh toy Proypologismoy toy 2009, stis dhmosies dapanes, thn ejoflhsh megaloy meroys twn promhqeytwn. Kai malista, mas kathgorhsan oti prospaqoyme na alloiwsoyme ta stoixeia toy Proypologismoy gia to 2009. Giati gnwrizame oti xwris na plhrwqoyn oi promhqeytes, den qa mporoyse na yparxei omalh synexish paroxhs ygeionomikhs periqalchs. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, gnwrizoyme para poly kala oti sto qema twn promhqeiwn ginotan ena ``parti'', ena ``panhgyri'' sta dhmosia nosokomeia. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy apokalycame tis paqogeneies twn dhmosiwn nosokomeiwn, giati akribws qeloyme na yparxei ejygiansh sto xwro ths dhmosias ygeias. Prospaqwntas na kanoyme mia synolikh politikh sto qema ths ygeias, phgainoyme mprosta. Kai as mhn jexname oti sto atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy egine thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, h ypoyrgos Ygeias paroysiase ena oloklhrwmeno plaisio gia thn anabaqmish toy E.S.Y. poy antimetwpizei mia seira apo zhthmata, opws ayta poy anaferate prohgoymenws. Gnwrizoyme tis elleiceis kai ayto poy kanoyme einai oti prospaqoyme na tis qerapeysoyme kai malista, oxi proswrina kai proxeira, giati kapoia pragmata exoyn jefygei, edw kai polla xronia. Prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme ena neo systhma ygeias, toylaxiston prwtobaqmias periqalchs kai na diasfalisoyme to dhmosio xarakthra ths paroxhs ygeionomikhs periqalchs.

BLAXOS: Mexri tote, mexri na ginei to neo systhma E.S.Y. qa zoyne polloi Ellhnes h qa exoyn peqanei arketoi;

PETALWTHS: Katalabainw thn yperbolh ths erwthsh sas...

BLAXOS: Kaqoloy yperbolh, kyrie Ekproswpe. Plhroforhqhka shmera oti sto nosokomeio ths Kalamatas, mphkan asqeneis gia na kanoyn egxeirhsh kai thn wra poy toys efqanan sto xeiroyrgeio toys eipan oti den mporoyme na sas kanoyme egxeirhsh giati den exoyme ta ylika. Toys ediwjan apo to nosokomeio kai gyrisan spiti toys. To idio symbainei kai se alla nosokomeia. Ta jerete, den rixnw eyqynes sthn kybernhsh, alla ayth h kybernhsh kati prepei na kanei gia na antimetwpisei to problhma ``eyqanasias'' poy antimetwpizoyn orismenoi hlikiwmenoi. Giati edw milame gia ``eyqanasia'', den milame...

PETALWTHS: Den symfwnw me ayto poy lete. Gnwrizoyme poly kala ta problhmata. To qema einai oti den mporoyme na apajiwnoyme ta panta. Kai an pragmatika yparxei tetoio zhthma, shmera, sto nosokomeio ths Kalamatas, yparxoyn armodioi poy qa to ejetasoyn, yparxoyn epiqewrhtes ygeias kai to ypoyrgeio Ygeias. Omws, einai safes oti proteraiothta mas einai - kai to epanalambanw- na dhmioyrghsoyme ena tetoio systhma, etsi wste na mhn yparxoyn tetoia shmeia oyte kat` endeijin sto mellon. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis den anaferomaste stis ellhnikes kalendes, emeis kaqhmerina dinoyme th maxh, prokeimenoy ta nosokomeia na parexoyn tis kata to dynaton, kalyteres yphresies. Opoy yparxoyn tetoia zhthmata, antimetwpizontai, xwris, omws, yperboles, xwris apajiwsh.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas qesw dyo erwthmata: Prwton, pws ektima h kybernhsh tis ejelijeis sto Synaspismo; Kai deyteron, h N.D. afhnei anoixto to endexomeno na apoxwrhsei apo tis ejetastikes epitropes, gia diaforoys logoys h me diafores aformes. Eipa, afhnei anoixto to endexomeno. Isws, (den akoygetai) kinhsh taktikhs, den to jerw. H ektimhsh ths kybernhshs poia einai;

PETALWTHS: Ws pros tis ejelijeis sto Synaspismo, den qa kanw sxolia. Einai qema eswkommatikwn diergasiwn. Oson afora sto oti h Nea Dhmokratia qelei na fygei apo tis ejetastikes epitropes, oti prospaqei na brei tropo, egw apantw: Einai qema eyqynhs kai ypeyqynothtas olwn mas, aytes tis ejetastikes, apo tis opoies o ellhnikos laos perimenei apotelesma - kai oi ejetastikes exoyn th dynatothta na exoyn apotelesma- den qa prepei na tis apajiwnoyme. Qa prepei antiqetws - kai edw einai to megalo stoixhma- na apodeijoyme oti oi politikes dynameis shmera kai qeloyn kai mporoyn na exoyn apotelesmata, me th leitoyrgia kai twn ejetastikwn epitropwn.

SIDERHS: Milhsate gia fhmes. Mexri twra, den exw dei stoixeia aytokritikhs ths kybernhshs. Mhpws aytes oi fhmes anakyklwnontai kai anaparagontai me bash to dedomeno ths raqymhs kybernhtikhs drasthriothtas, h opoia htan ergwdhs mono ston tomea twn perikopwn; Mhpws yparxei mia antikeimenikh bash, dedomenoy oti kai jenoi kaqhghtes systhnoyn sthn Ellada na kanei anaqewrhsh xreoys h na bgei apo to eyrw. Kai aytoi den nomizw oti einai ermaia kai organa twn kerdoskopwn.

PETALWTHS: Kaqenas exei tis apoceis toy kai ta kinhtra me ta opoia kanei dhlwseis, sxetika me thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai fysika, den einai oloi, osoi kanoyn dhlwseis, idioi. Einai safes oti ayth h kybernhsh ergazetai. Einai safes oti opoios parakoloyqei tis ejelijeis, exei antilhfqei thn poly megalh prospaqeia poy ekane h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na systaqei aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs, xwris ton opoio, shmera, den qa mporoysame na milame me th bebaiothta kai me thn asfaleia, me thn opoia milame. Emeis, ayto poy kanoyme, ws kybernhsh, einai na prospaqoyme me tis prajeis kai oxi me logia, na kaqhsyxasoyme ton ellhniko lao. Na dwsoyme ston Ellhna polith, to aisqhma ths oikonomikhs asfaleias mesa stis poly dyskoles sygkyries poy droyme. Kai bebaiws, dinoyme prooptikh kai stoxo sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Ayto einai to ergo mas kai ayto kanoyme.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ep` aytoy: Sas epishmainw, kyrie Ekproswpe, oti o neos kyklos syzhthsewn gia to an qa gyrisoyme sth draxmh h an qa proxwrhsoyme se anadiarqrwsh, h en pash periptwsei ean qa yparjei ptwxeysh kai diafora alla tetoia senaria, jekinhse meta thn prwth ekqesh ths Komision gia thn poreia ylopoihsh toy staqeropoihtikoy programmatos, toy mnhmonioy ktl. Amfisbhtoyn, dhladh, thn prospaqeia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, thn apotelesmatikothta aytoy toy programmatos, apo thn Komision, apo tis Bryjelles. Ara, to problhma den einai sto eswteriko kai to pws h kybernhsh ylopoiei ayto to programma;

PETALWTHS: Opoiadhpote ajiologhsh ginetai apo thn Komision, den exei sxesh me ta eyfantasta senaria peri ths epistrofhs ths draxmhs, xreokopias klp. Emeis, prospaqoyme - kai ayto kanoyme- na ylopoioyme to Programma Staqerothtas. Kai mexri stigmhs ta deigmata poy exoyme einai qetika, toso oson afora sth meiwsh toy elleimmatos, poy einai ayjhmenh se sxesh me toys stoxoys poy bazoyme, oso kai sta esoda gia ta opoia, pragmatika, ginetai mia poly megalh prospaqeia, se aytes tis sygkyries, na piasoyn to stoxo toys. Kai exoyme akomh, arketa ypoleipomena stoixeia, ypoleipomena ws pros thn ektimhsh toys, gia na kanoyme kai thn telikh ektimhsh, epi twn esodwn. Ara, kamia tetoia ajiologhsh den mporei na dikaiologei aytoy toy eidoys th diaspora eidhsewn, opws eipame prohgoymenws.

KALARYTHS: Me dedomeno oti, opws apodeiknyetai apo thn teleytaia epikoinwnia metajy Komision kai ypoyrgoy Ergasias, den eixe aposafhnistei to periexomeno toy mnhmonioy, oson afora sto Asfalistiko, qa hqela na sas rwthsw. Epeidh h kybernhsh, telika, exei ypogracei ena keimeno, to akribes periexomeno toy opoioy den gnwrize, an yparxoyn kai alla stoixeia kai alles ptyxes toy mnhmonioy, poy den einai akomh safeis sthn kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, gia na sas apanthsw, qa prepei na dexqw th bash poy qetete thn erwthsh kai thn opoia fysika den apodexomai. H kybernhsh safws kai gnwrize o,ti ypegrafe sto mnhmonio. Kai ayto to gnwrizete, afoy eisaste kaqhmerina sto briefing, otan h dikh moy apanthsh htan ``oti yparxei sto mnhmonio, ayta einai ta symfwnhqenta kai se ayta menoyme''. Kai apodeixqhke kai apo tis dhlwseis twn ekproswpwn ths Komision oti ayta poy einai sto mnhmonio, ayta isxyoyn. Eseis, twra, pws bgalate to symperasma oti den gnwrize h kybernhsh ti ypegrafe;

KALARYTHS: Apo th syzhthsh poy ginetai aytes tis hmeres gia to ti ginetai sto Asfalistiko. Den to ebala egw. H syzhthsh metajy ypoyrgeioy kai Komision.

PETALWTHS: Ayto ti leei; Oti den gnwrize h kybernhsh ti ypegrafe;

KALARYTHS: H syzhthsh, pws proekyce;

PETALWTHS: Eseis lete oti den gnwrize h kybernhsh ti ypegrafe. Ara, prepei na to stoixeioqethsete, wste na mporesw na sas apanthsw. En pash periptwsei, epeidh nomizw oti aytos o dialogos den exei bash, emeis safws gnwrizame ti ypogracame sto mnhmonio. Safws olo ayto to diasthma diabebaiwnoyme toys polites, oti den yparxei qema na perikopei kamia syntajh sto 48% kai oti sto mnhmonio den periexetai ayto. Kai qa fanei kai apo to asfalistiko nomosxedio poy qa katateqei syntoma.

KALARYTHS: Giati tote, o ypoyrgos Ergasias elege oti dinei maxh gia na mhn kopoyn sto miso oi syntajeis; Kapoios eqese to qema. Profanws, h h Komision h to D.N.T.

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy exei shmasia einai oti h idia h Komision eipe oti den isxyei h perikoph twn syntajewn sto 48%.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Mhpws ayth h syzhthsh, peri diapragmateysewn, twn maxwn, poy dinei o k. Loberdos me thn troika, apotelei to apoprosanatolistiko alloqi ths kybernhshs, wste na perasei me tis ligoteres dynates antidraseis, ena poly sklhro asfalistiko nomosxedio;

PETALWTHS: Ayth einai mia ektimhsh, thn opoia safws kai den symmerizomaste, giati gnwrizoyme akribws posh doyleia ginetai se ayto to asfalistiko nomosxedio. Giati, epiteloys, qa exoyme ena asfalistiko systhma, poy den qa diasfalizei mono tis paroyses, alla kai tis epomenes genies.

QEODWROPOYLOS: To ycos ths basikhs syntajhs exei kaqoristei, basei toy nomosxedioy;

PETALWTHS: Sto mnhmonio kai sto nomosxedio poy qa erqei, periexontai ta panta.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Oxi, sto mnhmonio den periexetai ``peri basikhs syntajhs''. Leei, gia bohqhma, sygkekrimena, se omades politwn poy zoyn katw apo ta oria ths ftwxias.

PETALWTHS: Exei apanthqei epaneilhmmenws, eidika to teleytaio diasthma, apo ton ypoyrgo Ergasias, kai qa yparxei sto asfalistiko nomosxedio. Qa prosdiorizetai ayto poy eipate.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Dhladh, qa einai 360 eyrw h basikh syntajh, opws problepei to nomosxedio;

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa. Kai einai mia syzhthsh poy egine oles tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na mas peite, ean gnwrizete ayth th stigmh, pote qa oloklhrwqei aytos o kyklos synennohsewn me thn Komision, wste na jeroyme kai pote qa katateqei to nomosxedio;

PETALWTHS: Qa katateqei syntoma.

BLAXOS: Apo ti ejartatai, kyrie Ekproswpe;

PETALWTHS: Apo th doyleia poy ginetai. Kai ginetai mia poly shmantikh doyleia, giati to asfalistiko nomosxedio, opws gnwrizoyme, den einai ena aplo nomosxedio. Einai h bash oloy toy systhmatos asfalishs.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Xqes, anekyce ena qema me ton k. Jynidh, to opoio ton emplekei oysiastika sthn ypoqesh Batopedioy. Shmera, akoysa ton idio na leei oti einai proqymos na dwsei ejhghseis sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph gia to qema. Omws, parallhla, me xqesinh anakoinwsh toy, kathggeile kati, poy gia emena isws perase xwris thn idiaiterh shmasia poy qa eprepe na toy dwsoyme. Kathggeile oysiastika enan ekbiasmo gia th qesh toy ston ``Kallikrath''. O ekbiasmos aytos prohlqe apo syntrofoys sas; Toys jerete; Qa toys maqoyme;

PETALWTHS: Ti rwtate, na sas pw, ektos toy ekbiasmoy.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Rwtw, apo poy prohlqe aytos o ekbiasmos. Ean einai anqrwpoi toy dikoy sas kommatos, poy apla diafwnoysan kai en pash periptwsei, ean yparxoyn toses polles diafwnies ston ``Kallikrath'' poy den tis jeroyme emeis.

PETALWTHS: Gi ayto qa rwthsete ton k. Jynidh, o opoios -apo oso gnwrizw- einai anoiktos ws pros to na kataqesei ean toy to zhthsei h Ejetastikh Epitroph. Einai anoiktos, ws pros to na dieykrinisei otidhpote afora ayth thn ypoqesh.

BLAXOS: Yparxei, omws, ena qema: Xqes, me ekplhjh diabasame mia grapth anakoinwsh toy k. Dendia, o opoios, oyte ligo-oyte poly, leei oti ean to PASOK aqwwsei ton k. Jynidh, tote kai oi emplekomenoi Ypoyrgoi apo th ND, einai aqwoi. Qelw na pw oti to prwto pragma poy moy hrqe sto myalo einai oti ta dyo megala kommata pane na kanoyn enan symchfismo kai na qacoyn to skandalo ths Monhs Batopedioy.

PETALWTHS: O k. Dendias to eipe ayto omws. Oxi to PASOK.

BLAXOS: Nai. Qa hqela, loipon, na sas rwthsw, ean eseis eiste se ayth th logikh kai en pash periptwsei, ean den yparxei kapoio allo stelexos sto PASOK, to opoio qa mporoyse na parei th qesh toy k. Jynidh, th qesh toy Grammatea toy PASOK, oytws wste na apemplakei kai to PASOK kai o k. Jynidhs apo ayth th diadikasia kai na dwsei o idios opote qelei, xwris na exei ayto to rolo toy Grammatea, tis ejhghseis poy prepei. Giati einai profanes oti den mporei o Grammateas enos megaloy kommatos na leei oti egw ekana kati se efarmogh apofashs toy Ypoyrgoy. Dioti, ean o k. Drys elege ston k. Jynidh na paei na pesei sth limnh, nomizw den qa to ekane. Etsi den einai; Qelw na moy peite ean yparxei symchfismos kai ean yparxei qema allaghs toy k. Jynidh apo th qesh toy Grammatea, oytws wste o k. Jynidhs, apallagmenos apo ta kaqhkonta toy ayta, na dwsei tis ejhghseis poy prepei.

PETALWTHS: Emeis xarh sth N.D kai se opoiondhpote allon gia symchfismo, den prokeitai na kanoyme pote kai malista sto qema toy Batopedioy. Se ena qema poy h ND edwse ejetaseis jepoylhmatos kai xarismatos ths dhmosias perioysias. Kai epeidh den mporoyme na ejomoiwnoyme toys pantes, einai gnwsth h istoria kai twn ypoyrgwn ths ND kai ths idias ths ND, h opoia, oxi aplws anexqhke, alla kalyce toys Ypoyrgoys ths, entos kai ektos Boylhs kai fysika einai gnwsth h istoria toy k. Jynidh, ws pros thn apokalych aytoy toy megaloy skandaloy. Ara toys symchfismoys alloy qa prepei na toys deijei o k. Dendias. Kai to lew ayto giati ejedwsa xqes, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, apanthsh-anakoinwsh kai gia ton k. Samara, alla perilambane kai ta legomena toy k. Dendia. Oti me symchfismoys den proxwrame mprosta. Kai ean h ND caxnei na apemplakei apo ta skandala ta opoia thn barainoyn, as brei alloys tropoys kai alloys xwroys.

KALARYTHS: H kybernhsh qewrei oti h ejhghsh poy dinei o k. Jynidhs, oti den mporoyse na kanei alliws, giati yphrxe ypoyrgikh apofash, einai orqh; Symfwnei me ayto, oti o k. Jynidhs den mporoyse na kanei alliws;

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws oti o k. Jynidhs epiqymei na paei na kataqesei sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph opotedhpote toy zhthqei, akomh kai shmera.

BLAXOS: Nai, alla o k. Jynidhs den einai o k. Jynidhs, einai o Grammateas toy PASOK.

PETALWTHS: Ayto den shmainei oti otidhpote planatai qa prepei na antimetwpizetai me logikh anqrwpofagias. Kai malista sas eipa oti emmenw sto oti einai gnwsth h istoria olwn sto qema toy Batopedioy.

BLAXOS: Anqrwpofagia einai otan kapoios bazei thn ypografh toy gia na dwsei se mia monh mia dhmosia ektash, ena nhsi; Dhladh, ean o k. Drys eixe apofasisei na dwsei ena oikodomiko tetragwno sto opoio qa tyxaine ekeinh th sygkekrimenh xronikh periodo, na einai to spiti toy k. Jynidh. O k. Jynidhs qa ypegrafe na dwsei to spiti toy sth Monh Batopedioy;

PETALWTHS: To qema ths Monhs Batopedioy einai ena poly megalo zhthma kai qa mporei na apanthqei oysiastika kai apo ton k. Jynidh kai apo opoiondhpote allon poy parakoloyqei ayto to qema. As anatrejete na deite poy ebale thn ypografh toy o k. Jynidhs kai gia poio tmhma ths limnhs. Den qa ypeiselqw se perissotera giati den einai dikh moy doyleia.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Me tis teleytaies ejelijeis qewreite oti oi ergasies ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia to Batopedi, prepei na parataqoyn, opws exei zhthsei prosfata kai h ND;

PETALWTHS: Ayto to apofasizei h idia h Ejetastikh Epitroph. H ND, omws, blepw oti prospaqei na akoloyqhsei mia parelkystikh taktikh, h opoia fysika den bohqa sth diereynhsh ths alhqeias. Einai qema, omws, ths idias ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs na orisei kai to xrono paratashs ths, ean yparjei.

BLAXOS: Epeidh k. Ekproswpe exete asxolhqei me th Monh Batopedioy, einai dynaton na bgei ena porisma gia th Monh Batopedioy, xwris na exoyn anoijei oi logariasmoi kai ta metoxologia 12 off-shore etaireiwn poy exoyn asxolhqei, exoyn emplakei me th Monh Batopedioy; Dioti ayth th stigmh milame gia ena porisma to opoio qa basistei se ti; Se 12 off-shore etaireies poy den jeroyme poioi einai oi metoxoi toys, poioi einai oi idiokthtes toys, poioi einai oi logariasmoi, poy phgan ta lefta, se poioys phgan ta lefta; Mporei na bgei porisma;

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa kai thn prohgoymenh bdomada se aythn thn erwthsh. Ayto poy exw, omws, na sas pw kai shmera einai oti h ejetastikh epitroph exei ena sygkekrimeno ergo. Apo kei kai pera ean yparxoyn endeijeis, yparxoyn kai peraiterw diadikasies mesa apo tis opoies, mporei na ginoyn kai energeies stis opoies anafereste.

LASKARATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai alhqeia oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei zhthsei apo ta melh toy PASOK, ta opoia metexoyn stis ejetastikes na einai pio feidwla apo edw kai pera, giati dhmioyrgeitai mia eikona sygxyshs poy qewrei oti blaptei kai thn kybernhsh.

PETALWTHS: Oi ejetastikes epitropes kanoyn aytotelws to ergo toys sto plaisio toy nomoy toy Syntagmatos kai o kaqe boyleyths leitoyrgei sto plaisio ths boyleytikhs toy idiothtas. Gia mas, to zhtoymeno einai na paragoyn to ergo me th sobarothta poy prepei kai oi symmetexontes sthn ejetastikh epitroph exoyn ola ta exeggya gia na to kanoyn.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Yparxei stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs h epibolh newn metrwn se periptwsh poy den kalyfqoyn ta esoda poy problepontai basei toy mnhmonioy;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei skech gia nea metra.

Sas eyxaristw.

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