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Tetarth, 24 Martioy 2010

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 24 Martioy 2010

JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Tis epomenes hmeres exoyme mprosta mas mia ejairetika shmantikh Synodo Koryfhs, ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. O Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy me tis allepallhles dieqneis epafes toy se epipedo koryfhs, ayth thn periodo, allazei toys sysxetismoys dynamewn. Anagagei to zhthma ths dhmioyrgias enos eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy staqerothtas sthrijhs twn kratwn-melwn se kentriko politiko zhthma ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H protash ayth ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs apotelei pleon kentriko zhthma diapragmateyshs twn organwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Kai prepei na tonisoyme edw oti h dhmioyrgia aytoy toy mhxanismoy, den einai qema h anagkh mono ths Elladas. Apotelei ena shmantikotato ergaleio, kaqws ap` ayto qa mporoyn na prostateyqoyn kai alles xwres, oi opoies qa breqoyn sto stoxastro twn kerdoskopwn, sto mellon. Ki alles xwres, oi opoies qa antimetwpisoyn oikonomikh krish, opws ayth poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas. Synepws einai para poly shmantiko to stigma ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs na doqei apo twra.

H Ellada perimenei tis epomenes hmeres, thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, thn koinotikh allhleggyh kai thn aytonohth isxyrh politikh sthrijh, poy qa askhsei thn katallhlh epirroh, etsi wste h xwra mas na daneizetai -otan xreiazetai- xrhmata, me toys tropoys poy daneizontai oi ypoloipes xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

Opws exoyme tonisei polles fores, den zhtame oikonomikh bohqeia apo kanenan. Zhtame politikh sthrijh kai monon.

H kybernhsh ypo tis paroyses synqhkes phre oles tis anagkaies apofaseis, phre ola ta aparaithta metra, dyskola metra. Oi apofaseis aytes, hdh, apodidoyn kai oi kopoi olwn mas pianoyn hdh topo. Kai ayto fainetai kai qa fanei kai tis epomenes hmeres. Epimenoyme sthn ejeyresh lyshs entos twn eyrwpaikwn plaisiwn, giati gnwrizoyme pws h Eyrwph kai mporei kai prepei na dwsei to stigma ths. Einai pleon h wra ths Eyrwphs na milhsei gia to mellon ths eyrwzwnhs. Einai h wra ths Eyrwphs na janadwsei thn arxh ths koinotikhs allhleggyhs, me ton katallhlotero tropo.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean katalabainw kala apo thn eisagwgikh sas dhlwsh kai sygkekrimena apo thn anafora ``perimenei h Ellada koinotikh allhleggyh kai sthrijh gia ikanopoihtiko daneismo'' kai parakatw lete ``epimenoyme se lysh entos ths Eyrwphs'', na ypoqesw oti osa legontai tis teleytaies wres peri anameijhs toy DNT, den einai s` ayta poy qa hqele h xwra mas -me ton enan h ton allo tropo, telos pantwn, thn anameijh toy DNT- na exei;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme anaferei para polles fores -kai eidika tis teleytaies hmeres kai einai safes ayto kai aytonohto- oti eimaste anapospasto kommati ths eyrwzwnhs, toy sklhroy pyrhna ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ara h lysh prepei na einai eyrwpaikh. H sthrijh -giati ayth einai h lysh- prepei na einai eyrwpaikh. Ta eyrwpaika organa qa apofasisoyn kai idiaitera sth Synodo Koryfhs, toys tropoys ejeyreshs lyshs. Emeis, ennoeitai, den apofasizoyme monoi mas. H apofash einai ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

MIXAHL: Symplhrwmatika, ean moy epitrepete. Lete kai epimenete pali se lysh eyrwpaikh. Kai h Synodos qa apofasisei telika to akribes periexomeno. Ean oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas epimenoyn se anamijh toy DNT, emeis pws mporoyme na antidrasoyme, afoy epimenete oti prepei na einai mono eyrwpaikoy xarakthra;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanenas logos na antidrasoyme se tipote. Emeis syzhtame mesa sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, sta organa ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, kanoyme tis protaseis mas, kanoyme tis diapragmateyseis mas, opws tis kanoyn oles oi xwres kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qa apofasisei, syllogika, gia ton tropo sthrijhs ths Elladas.

PAPAXRHSTOY: Einai eis gnwsin ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs ean qa ypobalei protash gia ton mhxanismo, to Eyrwpaiko Sosialistiko Komma; Kai an ypoblhqei tetoia protash qa einai ayth h protash me thn opoia qa paei h ellhnikh kybernhsh sto trapezi;

PETALWTHS: To Eyrwpaiko Sosialistiko Komma einai mia omada, h opoia exei ena sygkekrimeno rolo poy den einai omws ektelestikos kai den pairnei meros sth lhch apofasewn sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

PITTARAS: Apo thn plhroforhsh poy exete, poso konta eimaste sto na pragmatopoihqei mia ektakth synodos twn xwrwn ths eyrwzwnhs, xwrista apo th synodo thn ypoloipwn hgetwn; Anaferomai sthn ayrianh hmera, to prwi. Giati ap` o,ti plhroforoymaste, o k. Papandreoy qa anaxwrhsei apo shmera.

PETALWTHS: To programma einai fortwmeno, oxi mono gia ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo k. Papandreoy, alla kai gia oloys toys hgetes twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. To programma einai akomh anoixto, bebaiws.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish qa hqela gi` ayto kai mia erwthsh. O k. Papandreoy anaxwrei shmera;

PETALWTHS: Nai.

MIXAHL: Mhpws paei alloy prwta; Giati yparxei ayth h plhroforia.

PETALWTHS: Oi plhrofories poy diakinoyntai einai para polles kai poikiloy eidoys. O Prwqypoyrgos einai programmatismeno na fygei shmera. Yparxoyn omws kai periptwseis opoy mporei na yparxei kati ektakto. H boylhsh, omws, einai ayth.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kai mia erwthsh hqela: Poso konta h poso makria eimaste meta tis xqesines diaboyleyseis, qa legame, kai tis shmerines kai thn proqesh, poy exei diafanei, ths Germanias na syzhthsei gia toys oroys poy qa antloyme ta xrhmata; Poso konta loipon kai poso makria eimaste pisteyete, pleon, se mia apofash gia enan mhxanismo;

PETALWTHS: Mia hmera prin th Synodo Koryfhs nomizw oti qa htan akairo kai akomco ek meroys moy, ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na apanthsei gia to poso konta h poso makria eimaste. Oi diapragmateyseis synexizontai, oi skeceis, oi protaseis. H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai enas organismos, mia Enwsh pollwn xwrwn, opws einai gnwsto. Synepws, ola einai panw sto trapezi. Kai bebaiws, h krisimothta ths sygkyrias den mas epitrepei na kanoyme probleceis.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na jekaqarisoyme kati: H ellhnikh kybernhsh protiqetai na synainesei se opoia symfwnia katalhjei telikws h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, ean katalhjei ayth kai se opoioys oroys th synodeyoyn; Giati akoysame xqes plhrofories kai yparxoyn kai shmera, gia poly sklhroys oroys, idiaitera apo thn pleyra ths Germanias.

PETALWTHS: Oi plhrofories kai oi fhmes olo ayto to xroniko diasthma einai diaxytes kai einai epomeno. Ayta, omws, poy metrane, einai oi syzhthseis, oi protaseis poy qa mpoyn sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. Stis apofaseis ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, oi opoies qa diamorfwqoyn me th symmetoxh olwn twn xwrwn kai - ennoeitai kai- ths Elladas.

SPANOY: Epeidh eipate oti h qesh mas paramenei, oti epidiwkoyme na daneistoyme me ikanopoihtikoys oroys, opws daneizontai kai oi alles xwres, mporeite na mas peite gia poio epitokio akribws milate;

PETALWTHS: Den einai epi toy parontos na syzhthsoyme to qema ayto. Emas ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na exoyme thn politikh sthrijh apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Gnwrizoyme oti h diadikasia daneiodothshs apo tis agores einai mia synqeth, polyplokh kai xronobora diadikasia. Xronobora ws pros to pws qa fanoyn ta apotelesmata. Kanoyme kai qa kanoyme ta panta, etsi wste h xwra mas, otan xreiastei na daneistei, na exei toys kalyteroys oroys daneismoy. Alla, ayto poy qelw na tonisw einai oti edw, sthn ayrianh kai meqayrianh Synodo Koryfhs, den einai mono to qema toy daneismoy ths Elladas. Einai ena shmantiko eyrwpaiko zhthma to pws blepei, pws antimetwpizei, ti mhxanismoi qa anaptyxqoyn apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh etsi wste na sthrizontai oi xwres oi opoies antimetwpizoyn, analogh me ths Elladas, oikonomikh krish. Kai ayto nomizw oti qa einai to shmantiko poy qa bgei apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, se ayth th Synodo Koryfhs.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den einai ojymwro; Mexri twra, h Ellada eixe mia adynamia daneismoy giati htan chla ta epitokia. Twra, poy fainetai na syzhteitai h dhmioyrgia toy mhxanismoy, h Ellada diamhnyei sth Germania kai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh oti emeis ayta ta xrhmata mporei kai na mh ta xreiastoyme.

PETALWTHS: Oi daneiakes anagkes ths xwras mas einai gnwstes, einai katagegrammenes. Gia to pote qa daneistoyme, apofasizei to oikonomiko epiteleio, analoga me tis oikonomikes, dhmosionomikes synqhkes kai anagkes ths xwras mas. Einai gnwsto oti qa prepei na prosfygoyme kapote se daneismo. To pote, omws, kai se poio ycos, kaqorizetai analoga me tis anagkes. Einai safes oti qeloyme na dhmioyrghqoyn ekeinoi oi oroi kai oi synqhkes daneismoy poy qa einai symferoyses pros to ellhniko xrhma, pros thn ellhnikh oikonomia. S` ayto, den yparxei kamia antifash, me to oti apo th mia milame gia daneismo kai apo thn allh milame gia qesmoqethsh, pleon, apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, mhxanismwn staqerothtas. Ayta einai symplhrwmatika kai to ena einai epallhlo toy alloy.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, stoys oroys poy feretai na qetei h Germania gia na symfwnhsei se ayth th sthrijh, peran apo to DNT kai thn anagkh na xrewkophsoyme prwta gia na mas bohqhsoyme, tis opoies den sxoliazw, mila kai gia qesmikh allagh sth Synqhkh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Exete ypoch sas ti akribws qa mporoyse na zhthqei; Exei diamhnysei sta ypoloipa krath-melh ti einai ayto poy qelei na allajei qesmika sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh;

PETALWTHS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn anaferqw se fhmes kai se plhrofories. Einai shmantika ta zhthmata. Einai gnwsto to ti isxyei sth Synqhkh ths Lisabonas. Apo kei kai pera, emeis syzhtame to qema, to opoio einai shmantiko gia thn Ellada.

ZHKIDHS: H kybernhsh einai etoimh na dexqei ena mikto systhma xrhmatodothshs;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh diapragmateyetai. H kybernhsh hdh exei tis protaseis ths kai ennoeitai oti qa tis kataqesei sth Synodo Koryfhs. Kai h apofash, qa einai apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

PITTARAS: Xqes, o k. Papoytshs ejefrase thn elpida na diorqwsei h kybernhsh mia proklhsh poy exei na kanei me to misqo toy Proedroy toy OPAP, o opoios ameibetai me 15.000 eyrw to mhna. Skopeyete na kanete kati gi` ayto;

PETALWTHS: Apo oso gnwrizw, qa yparjei anakoinwsh apo ton OPAP, poy qa anaferei leptomereies ws pros tis amoibes twn stelexwn toy. Den einai aytes oi amoibes. Einai poly ligoteres. Ekeino to opoio mporw na sas anaferw egw einai oti yparxoyn shmantikotates meiwseis kai qa apofasistoyn, me dedomeno oti o OPAP exei kai ena idiaitero nomiko kaqestws, einai eishgmenos sto Xrhmatisthrio. H prwqypoyrgikh, omws, kateyqynsh kai entolh gia ylopoihsh twn programmatikwn desmeysewn toy PASOK kai proeklogika kai meteklogika, safws kai ylopoieitai kai ston OPAP. Gnwrizoyme oti o OPAP leitoyrgoyse me ena sygkekrimeno tropo epi Neas Dhmokratias. Aytos o tropos, pleon, den leitoyrgei kai den prepei na leitoyrgei, giati prokeitai gia dhmosio xrhma. Synepws, ayth h entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai h desmeysh mas, ylopoieitai kai ston OPAP. Ta posa einai shmantika xamhlotera. Qa yparjei, omws, anakoinwsh.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh pws skeftetai na antidrasei stis dikaiologhmenes kinhtopoihseis orismenwn kladwn toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea, oi opoioi diekdikoyn kapoia kalyterh, na to pw etsi, forologikh metaxeirish, me diaforoys tropoys, teqhkan ypoch toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn, tis aperrice kai aytoi oi kladoi einai idiaitera eyaisqhta gia thn eyryqmh leitoyrgia toy kratoys. Anaferomai stoys desmofylakes twn fylakwn, anaferomai stoys pilotoys ths Polemikhs Aeroporias. Pws qa antimetwpisete piqanes antidraseis toys;

PETALWTHS: Einai sto plaisio twn antidrasewn poy isws yparxoyn apo diafores epaggelmatikes omades. Emeis den kanoyme ejairesh gia kanenan. Emeis gnwrizoyme kai ta idiaitera problhmata aytwn twn kladwn poy anaferate. Gnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn kladoi toy Dhmosioy, oi opoioi exoyn pragmatika idiaiteres synqhkes kai idiaiteres anagkes. Sto plaisio, omws, ths ektakths anagkhs poy biwnoyme ws xwra kai ws oikonomia, ejaitias kyriws twn politikwn poy askhse h Nea Dhmokratia, den mporei na ejaireqei kaneis. Ayto einai dedomeno. To katanooyn oloi oi ergazomenoi kai sto plaisio ayto kineitai kai h kybernhsh. Sto plaisio ayto apofasisthke xqes kai sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio na mhn ginoyn dektes ejaireseis. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws, krinoyme kai tis anagkes toy kaqe kladoy xwrista.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: H Ekklhsia, h opoia antidra gia th forologhsh ths, zhta mesw toy Arxiepiskopoy synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Yparxei tetoio endexomeno synanthshs toy k. Ierwnymoy me ton k. Papandreoy;

PETALWTHS: Pros to paron, logw kai twn gnwstwn ypoxrewsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy -o opoios exei na diekperaiwsei mia shmantikotath apostolh sth Synodo Koryfhs- den yparxei kati programmatismeno. Omws, h qesh ths kybernhshs, einai gnwsth ws pros th forologhsh twn apokthmatwn ths ekklhsiastikhs perioysias kai einai sto plaisio ths dhmosionomikhs politikhs poy askoyme.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Shmera, katatiqetai to forologiko nomosxedio sth Boylh. Exete kati neotero, sxetika me to plafon, poso qa forologoyntai oi apozhmiwseis; An qa anebei to plafon;

PETALWTHS: Einai poly kalh h erwthsh sas kai einai kati to opoio exei apasxolhsei kai esas, alla kai oloys mas. To plafon einai 60.000 eyrw. Epeidh omws exei bgei sth dhmosiothta mia streblh eikona, oson afora to qema ths forologhshs twn apozhmiwsewn apo tis apolyseis, gia thn apokatastash ths alhqeias, sas anaferw oti mexri twra isxye to 20% sth forologhsh twn apozhmiwsewn apo tis apolyseis. Emeis erxomaste kai bazoyme ena ychlo aforologhto kai apo kei kai pera, mexri ena poly megalo poso, einai poly pio eynoikh h ryqmish, apo to isxyon kaqestws. Kai pragmatika, moy kanei entypwsh oti o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs k. Samaras -den mporw na xarakthrisw an htan afeleia h agnoia h kai politiko qrasos, qa mporoysa na pw, an kai einai barys o xarakthrismos- apo to bhma ths Boylhs na xarakthrizei ws anhqikh th forologhsh twn apozhmiwsewn apo tis apolyseis, otan ayth h ryqmish poy fernoyme einai poly-poly pio eynoikh apo ayth poy isxye epi Neas Dhmokratias. H antimetwpish sto idio qema ths Neas Dhmokratias, pws qa mporoyse na xarakthristei, arage; Alla einai pragmatika lyphro, o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na mhn gnwrizei ta stoixeiwdh, ta opoia eprepe na gnwrizei kai malista otan mila apo to bhma ths Boylhs. Qa prepei h stash kai h symperifora toy na einai pio ypeyqynh.

Apo kei kai pera, ena deytero poy qa hqela na sas anaferw ws pros to sygkekrimeno zhthma einai, to oti na koptontai merikoi, giati forologoyme tis apozhmiwseis apolysewn me 300.000 eyrw, pragmatika as anarwthqei o aplos Ellhnas poliths ean ayth h apozhmiwsh twn 300.000 eyrw prepei na forologhqei h oxi, otan forologoyntai poly xamhlotera eisodhmata kai otan ena poly megalo meros, panw apo to 90% twn apozhmiwsewn apo tis apolyseis menei aforologhto. Poios einai arage o aplos ergazomenos poy pairnei apozhmiwsh apolysews 300.000 kai 200.000 eyrw;

Egw apo thn epaggelmatikh moy peira gnwrizw - kai to gnwrizoyme oloi- oti meta apo polla eth ergasias, oi apozhmiwseis apolysewn den jepernoyn tis 30.000 eyrw. Kai milame oti se ayto to epipedo einai safws aforologhto. Alla kai opoy den yparxei aforologhto, einai poly pio xamhla ta posa poy forologoyntai se sxesh me to isxyon kaqestws epi Neas Dhmokratias.

BASILOPOYLOS: Mporeite na mas peite, xwris na peite to onoma, poia qesh ergasias, thn opoia kaleitai to Dhmosio na katabalei 300.000 apozhmiwsh, einai ayth poy mporei na epibebaiwsei to paradeigma sas;

PETALWTHS: Sto Dhmosio; Den gnwrizw. Egw perimenw apo esas na moy peite, poies einai aytes oi qeseis ergasias poy me thn apolysh toys apozhmiwnontai me 300.000 eyrw.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kai giati bazete plafon 300.000; Afoy to 40% einai oi 150.000.

PETALWTHS: As milhsoyme gia 150.000 eyrw kai panw. Den gnwrizw posoi ergazomenoi sto dhmosio, alla kai ston idiwtiko tomea, oxi mono sto dhmosio, pairnoyn apozhmiwsh apolysews panw apo 150.000 eyrw.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayto to plafon, ta 150.000, qa allajei; Qa anebei;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei plafon 150.000 eyrw. Egw sas eipa poio einai to plafon.

XASAPOPOYLOS: H forologhsh 40% einai apo 150.000 kai panw. Ayto to orio, qa allajei;

PETALWTHS: Oxi kai den briskoyme logo gia na allajei. Opoios pairnei apozhmiwsh panw apo 150.000 eyrw, pisteyw oti einai katagegrammeno sthn koinh logikh -eidika stis shmerines synqhkes- oti qa prepei na forologhqei kiolas.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Na dinei ta misa sto kratos.

PETALWTHS: Den einai ta misa sto kratos.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Ta misa einai.

PETALWTHS: Kai malista, sas plhroforw oti aytos - ti leei h koinh logikh, giati me bash thn koinh logikh kinoymaste- o opoios pairnei apozhmiwsh apolysews panw apo 150.000, 200.000 kai 300.000 eyrw, nomizw oti einai para poly eykolo na brei thn epomenh ergasia toy. Den mporoyme apo th mia na milame gia ta golden boys kai apo thn allh na qeloyme ta golden boys na menoyn aforologhta kai stis apozhmiwseis apolysews.

Ayth einai h logikh ths kybernhshs kai synadei me to olo pneyma ths prostasias toy eisodhmatos toy Ellhna polith.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy. Epeidh eipate gia ena paradeigma. Enas anqrwpos, o opoios einai dioikhtiko stelexos se mia trapeza h se mia megalh etaireia kai einai 50, 52 xronwn kai apolyetai kai pairnei tis 150.000, qa dwsei to 40%, dhladh tis 70.000...

PETALWTHS: Milate gia stelexh, megalostelexh trapezwn;

XASAPOPOYLOS: Trapezwn kai epixeirhsewn. Giati, doja tw Qew, sthn Ellada exoyme kai tetoies epixeirhseis poy ameiboyn me poly perissotera...

PETALWTHS: Elaxistes.

XASAPOPOYLOS: E, oxi kai elaxistes.

PETALWTHS: Elaxistes.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Telos pantwn.

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn diaqetei statistika stoixeia poy, opws sas eipa prohgoymenws, epibebaiwnoyn oti panw apo to 90% twn apolymenwn exoyn h aforologhto h poly pio eynoikh metaxeirish shmera, me ayto to forologiko systhma poy eisagoyme emeis, apo to isxyon.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Ypoyrge moy, na teleiwsei thn erwthsh. Yparxoyn, loipon, ayta ta stelexh, ta opoia einai ergazomenoi, dhladh plhrwnoyn tis asfalistikes toys eisfores. Den einai megalometoxoi, oyte metoxoi se etaireies. Einai ergazomenoi, oi opoioi einai 50, 52 xronwn, apolyontai kai pairnoyn ena sebasto poso, analoga me ta xronia poy doyleyan kai ta xrhmata poy epairnan. H kybernhsh h dikh sas krinei oti einai dikaio na dwsei to 40% sto kratos o anqrwpos poy einai 50, 52 xronwn kai einai dyskolo na janabrei doyleia; Giati, to jerete poly kala, an fygeis 50, 52 xronwn apo mia qesh sthn opoia exeis doylecei 20 kai 25 xronia kai exeis fqasei se ena shmeio kai exeis parei xrhmata, poy qa janabreis tetoia doyleia me tetoia xrhmata;

PETALWTHS: Ws synhqws, h empeiria mas kai h koinh peira leei oti prokeitai gia metagrafes stelexwn kai malista me isws kai perissotera xrhmata. Briskoyme logikotato ws kybernhsh na prostateyoyme toys ergazomenoys, oi opoioi epoydeni mporei na dianohqoyn oti qa paroyn apozhmiwsh apolysews panw apo 150.000 eyrw. Makari na mporoysame na mhn forologoyme kanenan. Alla, otan o ellhnikos laos yfistatai tetoies qysies shmera, tote den mporei na menoyn aforologhtoi aytoi oi opoioi pairnoyn poly megales amoibes kai oi apozhmiwseis apolyshs einai analoges twn terastiwn amoibwn poy pairnoyn. Einai jekaqarh h epilogh mas. Kai epanalambanw oti exoyme ypoxrewsh na prostateyoyme ton aplo polith, to eisodhma toy aploy polith, ta esoda poy prepei na erxontai kai na eisreoyn sto kratos apo to na prostateyoyme ta golden boys, opws ginotan sto parelqon.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh, eseis exete sto myalo sas kai gi` ayto perasate ayth th diatajh, oti se aytoy toy epipedoy tis etaireies kai se ayta ta stelexh ginetai ayto to ``kolpo'' gia na eisprajoyn kai thn apozhmiwsh apo thn etaireia ...

PETALWTHS: Egw den milhsa gia ``kolpo''. Kanete laqos.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Otan lete metagrafh stelexwn ti ennoeite;

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa ws pros ayto poy eipate, gia to ti ginetai synhqws. Kai sas to lew jekaqara, den symmerizomai thn proseggish sas oti einai ergazomenoi oi opoioi plhrwnoyn. Oloi einai ergazomenoi kai oloi plhrwnoyn, alla oi apozhmiwseis apolysews poy pairnoyn den einai panw apo 150.000 eyrw, etsi opws to qetete eseis. Kai epeidh emeis eimaste kybernhsh mesa apo ayto to forologiko nomosxedio qetoyme kai baseis gia thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh. Einai aytonohto oti koinwnikh dikaiosynh na katabalei kapoios foroys, otan pairnei toso megales amoibes.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Na sas qymisw, epeidh milate gia koinwnikh dikaiosynh, ola ayta ta stelexh, otan pairnoyn ayton ton ychlo misqo den ton kleboyn...

PETALWTHS: Kaneis den ``klebei''...

BASILOPOYLOS: ... nai, alla oyte kleboyn kai thn eforia. Plhrwnoyn kanonika tis eisfores toys mexri na apolyqoyn. Ara kai aytoi ergazomenoi einai. Den einai megalometoxoi.

PETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw se poioys anafereste. Egw sas eipa th genikh qewrhsh ths kybernhshs. Profanws, exoyme diaforetikh proseggish. Einai dikaiwma, omws, ths Politeias na exei tis proseggiseis ths.

BASILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia ti ariqmo proswpwn milame; To ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn den mporei na mhn gnwrizei kata proseggish posa einai ayta ta atoma.

PETALWTHS: Anefera kai prohgoymenws oti panw apo to 90% twn apolymenwn h einai sto aforologhto h exoyn poly mikroterh epibarynsh apo ayth poy eixan me to kaqestws gia to opoio miloysame. Einai sigoyro oti kai oi apolymenoi - ennoeitai egw den milhsa gia ``kolpo'' - einai panta apolymenoi. To qema einai oti otan exei kapoios poly megala eisodhmata, qa prepei, kiolas, na forologeitai.

POLYMEROS: Gia na katalabw. Milame, dhladh, gia proedroys DEKO, gia proedroys trapezwn, gia anqrwpoys poy briskontai konta stoys proedroys twn DEKO kai twn trapezwn, gia anqrwpoys, dhladh, poy misqwnontai ton mhna me 10.000 - 15.000 eyrw. Prosfato paradeigma, an den kanw laqos, o proedros ths ERT. Anaferomai se ayto, giati ayto qymamai, kai se ayto eixe ginei megalos ``ntoros''. Gia aytoys toys anqrwpoys milate. Etsi;

PETALWTHS: Emeis den poinikopoioyme, oyte enoxopoioyme ta megala eisodhmata. Alla otan yparxei megalo eisodhma qa prepei na forologeitai kai me ton analogo tropo.

XASAPOPOYLOS: H apozhmiwsh enos apolymenoy einai eisodhma;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti an qesoyme twra to nomiko xarakthrismo kai th proseggish, adikoyme thn oysia ths syzhthshs.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Den moy apantate omws. H kybernhsh qewrei thn apozhmiwsh ws eisodhma;

PETALWTHS: Egw sas anefera th qesh mas.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Qewrei thn apozhmiwsh ws eisodhma h kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: H apozhmiwsh einai xrhmata poy mpainoyn se kapoia tseph. Kai otan ayta ta xrhmata einai toso polla, ta opoia den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn aplh ellhnikh pragmatikothta, kai malista yp aytes tis synqhkes, eimaste ypoxrewmenoi katw apo tis shmerines synqhkes, na symperiferqoyme forologika me ayto ton tropo, o opoios koinwnika einai o pio dikaios.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eixate kataggeilei tis prwtes hmeres poy analabate ws kybernhsh, para polla stelexh ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs, amesws, liga eikositetrawra prin apo tis kalpes ths 4h Oktwbrioy, ananewsan ta symbolaia toys h tis symbaseis poy eixan me foreis toy Dhmosioy h toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea kai malista gennaiodwra. Eixate pei oti ayta qa epanejetastoyn. Ti exei ginei ep' aytoy kai an exete thn proqesh orismena apo ayta, logw ths ektakths oikonomikhs katastashs, na ta akyrwsete.

PETALWTHS: Hdh exoyn akyrwqei h anaklhqei polles symbaseis se tomeis poy aforoyn sto Dhmosio. Synexizoyme na ejetazoyme poies htan aytes oi xaristikes symbaseis, oi opoies ebgainan ejw apo to plaisio ths nomimothtas.

ZAFEIRIADOY: H erwthsh einai ektos qematos. H Omospondia benzinopwlwn Ellados, meta th xqesinh apofash sas, na qesete plafon se oxtw nomoys, sas kathgorei shmera oti einai monomerhs, kaqoson afora mono sth lianikh pwlhsh twn kaysimwn kai oxi sth xondrikh, me apotelesma na plhttontai oi idioi. Kai malista akoysa shmera sto radiofwno enan ekproswpo ths Omospondias na sas kathgorei gia atolmia na sygkroysteite me kapoia symferonta. Yparxei kapoia apanthsh h kapoia allagh, piqanws, qa epiballete plafon kai sth xondrikh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis gnwrizoyme poy yparxei megalh kerdoskopia. Ayto to gnwrizoyme. Gnwrizoyme ola ta zhthmata kai oles tis ptyxes ths emporias kaysimwn. Den exoyn, omws, sxesh me to plafon, to opoio balame. To plafon poy balame einai kaqorismeno, einai stoxeymeno, etsi wste na prostateytei o katanalwths, o aplos Ellhnas poliths. To qema ths kerdoskopias sta kaysima, einai shmantikotato zhthma poy h kybernhsh to gnwrizei, to apotypwnei, to ejetazei kai qa parei analoges apofaseis. Alla, to na apokatasthsoyme th nomimothta, etsi wste na mhn yparxoyn periqwria kerdoskopias kai sth lianikh, einai ypoxrewsh mas kai ayto kanoyme me thn epibolh plafon.

Sas eyxaristw.

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