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Trith, 10 Noembrioy 2009

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 10 Noembrioy 2009

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BALABANOS: Sas diabazw: ``H Ellada xreiazetai sobaro sxedio anatajhs ths oikonomias ths, h opoia brisketai se poly sobarh katastash. Oi agores den empisteyontai thn ypografh xwrwn poy den pairnoyn ta anagkaia metra meiwshs elleimmatwn''. Apokleistikes dhlwseis toy k. Trise, xqes ston ANT-1. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PETALWTHS: Pragmatika einai diapistwsh mas oti yparxei ena fobero elleimma ajiopistias apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Emeis, ayto poy kanoyme einai na anadeiknyoyme thn alhqeia. Emeis, ayto poy kanoyme einai na prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme mhxanismoys katagrafhs twn pragmatikwn stoixeiwn ths oikonomias. Apo ekei kai pera, stoxos ths kybernhshs einai na epelqei h anakamch kai h anaptyjh ths oikonomias se ola ta epipeda, mesa apo sygkekrimena metra kai stoxeyseis. Melhma mas einai ayton ton titanio agwna gia thn anatajh toy elleimmatos ths ajiopistias na ton feroyme se peras, me apwtero skopo thn eggyhsh ths koinwnikhs synoxhs sthn Ellada. Apo ekei kai pera, ta metra poy lambanoyme kai ta opoia qa laboyme, nomizw oti qa einai se tetoio baqmo etsi wste, se ligo xroniko diasthma, na eimaste ajiopistoi synomilhtes me toys etairoys mas.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ep` aytoy k. Ekproswpe: Epeidh aytes oi protropes kai aytes oi dhlwseis apo stelexh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ginontai liges hmeres meta thn paroysiash toy prosxedioy toy Proypologismoy, den aforoyn kai tis prwtes energeies ths kybernhshs k. Ekproswpe; Kai aytes oi prwtes energeies fainetai oti den peiqoyn. Den exete kai eseis ayth thn entypwsh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis gnwrizoyme oti den einai eykolo na anatrecoyme mia asxhmh kai poly arnhtikh eikona poy exei h xwra mas sto ejwteriko. Katagrafoyme kai prospaqoyme na broyme tropoys kai lyseis kai mesa apo to sxedio toy Proypologismoy, etsi opws paroysiasthke proxqes sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai paroysiazetai, xqes kai shmera, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Pisteyoyme oti dhmioyrgoyntai ekeines oi stoxeyseis kai oi prosanatolismoi poy pragmatika deixnoyn thn kateyqynsh ths kybernhshs kai me poia politikh qa poreyqei. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, menei polys xronos kai polles alles energeies poy qa peisoyn kai toys etairoys mas oti exoyn na kanoyn, pleon, me mia ajiopisth kybernhsh. Qa akoloyqhsei o Proypologismos, etsi opws qa katateqei epishmws. Qa akoloyqhsei ena forologiko nomosxedio, to opoio qa balei tis baseis gia mia dhmosionomikh forologikh kai oikonomikh staqerothta. Kai mesa apo aytes tis prajeis mas, pisteyoyme oti qa peisoyme kai toys etairoys.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Dieykrinistika k. Ekproswpe: Egw toylaxiston mporei na exw shmeiwsei laqos, h prwth sas frash mila gia anajiopistia ek meroys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs; Den to katalaba. Gi` ayto sas rwtaw. Isws exw shmeiwsei laqos.

PETALWTHS: Oxi. Yparxei elleimma ajiopistias ths xwras apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Eyxaristw poly.

SIDERHS: H dikastikh apofash gia ta limania dhmioyrgei alla dedomena sthn kybernhtikh stoxeysh;

PETALWTHS: H dikastikh apofash einai ena dedomeno. Parakoloyqoyme tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs kai tis sebomaste. Skopos mas einai na proxwrhsei o dialogos me toys ergazomenoys kai malista me ton neo dieyqynonta symboylo, ton k. Anwmerith.

SIDERHS: Niwqete na sas lynei ta xeria gia mia endexomenh epitajh;

PETALWTHS: Exoyme dhlwsei rhta oti den yparxei kamia proqesh gia epistrateysh twn ergazomenwn. Alla ta nea dedomena poy dhmioyrgoyntai, safws kai ta synypologizoyme.

SIDERHS: Eis to dihnekes qa einai aytos o dialogos;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, o dialogos qa exei sygkekrimenh stoxeysh. Shmera, yparxei neos dieyqynontas symboylos ston Organismo Limenos Peiraiws, o opoios jekina kai aytos dialogo.

KROYSTALLH: Otan lete oti synypologizete ta nea dedomena, dhladh ean apofasistei shmera synexish ths apergias qa drasete diaforetika apo ayto poy lete oti den exete proqesh epistrateyshs;

PETALWTHS: Oxi. Epanalambanw oti proqesh epistrateyshs den yparxei. Pisteyoyme oti me to dialogo syntoma qa exoyme lysh.

GARGALAKOS: Sygnwmh. Kai an oi ergazomenoi den kanoyn sebasth ayth th dikastikh apofash, toys kaleite, toylaxiston eseis ws kybernhsh, na th sebastoyn;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti kaqe Ellhnas poliths prepei na sebetai tis dikastikes apofaseis. Kai nomizw oti kai oi ergazomenoi exoyn thn ypeyqynothta na sebastoyn thn apofash.

SIDERHS: Epitrepete; To kratos den epibalei th nomimothta;

PETALWTHS: To kratos exei diafores ekfanseis. Mia leitoyrgia einai h dikastikh, h leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs, mia diaforetikh leitoyrgia einai h nomoqetikh kai h ektelestikh. Safws, sta qemata Dikaiosynhs den mporoyme na ypeiselqoyme. Ayto poy einai na kanoyme ws kratos, emeis to kanoyme.

SIDERHS: Me sygxwreite. Monopwlw. Sthn efarmogh twn apofasewn ths Dikaiosynhs einai ypeyqyno to kratos. H Dikaiosynh apefanqh;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei ena dikonomiko systhma, to opoio prospaqei kai problepei pws ylopoioyntai kai pws ekteloyntai oi apofaseis. Yparxei sygkekrimeno nomoqetiko plaisio gia thn ektelesh twn apofasewn.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes anakoinwsate, an den kanw laqos, eji kainoyrgioys Genikoys kai Eidikoys Grammateis. Dyo ej aytwn einai prwhn boyleytes toy kommatos sas. Kai shmera, yparxoyn epikritika h aixmhra sxolia, na mhn pw epikritika, oti oi dyo sygkekrimenoi den ypebalan biografika. Epeleghsan, dioti to hqelan oi armodioi ypoyrgoi. Ti apantate se ayta;

PETALWTHS: Emeis jekinhsame mia kainotomo diadikasia, thn opoia parakoloyqei o ellhnikos laos. Yphrxe mia foberh apodoxh ayths ths kainotomoy diadikasias kai mesa apo ayth th diadikasia orisame kai kapoia krithria. Eipame oti den menoyme se typika krithria, oti yparxei ena synoliko systhma ajiologhshs, to opoio prosmetra, pera apo kapoia typika prosonta, kai thn politikh empeiria kai thn koinwnikh prosfora. Me bash ayta, anakoinwnontai kai oi Genikoi Grammateis, oi opoioi anakoinwqhkan mexri twra.

KOYTRAS: Mporeite na mas peite, ti zhthse o Kinezos Presbhs apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai an yparxei aithma sto prwqypoyrgiko grafeio gia ranteboy me ton Proedro ths COSCO, o opoios maqainoyme oti janarxetai sthn Ellada tis epomenes hmeres;

PETALWTHS: Aithma gia ranteboy den yparxei sto prwqypoyrgiko grafeio. Xqes, egine mia synanthsh toy Kinezoy Presbh me ton k. Pampoykh kai ton k. Pagkalo. Eixe prohghqei, pro hmerwn, h idia synanthsh me thn k. Katselh, ws armodia Ypoyrgo. Kaqe pleyra ekqetei tis apoceis ths. H pagia qesh ths kybernhshs einai gnwsth: Sebomaste th symbash, diathroyme tis epifylajeis mas kai ekfrasame -kai prin tis ekloges, alla kai meta tis ekloges- tis enstaseis mas. Apo ekei kai pera, orisame kai poia periqwria beltiwshs yparxoyn sth symbash ayth.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, plhroforoymaste apo to reportaz kai yphrjan kai kapoia dhmosieymata tis prohgoymenes hmeres oti h COSCO telika den einai to ``afentiko'' sthn olh ayth istoria ths symbashs. Yparxoyn isxyra efoplistika symferonta Ellhnwn efoplistwn. Eseis, eiste diateqeimenoi me ayta ta symferonta -gi` ayto epebalan kai th sygkekrimenh symbash sthn opoia se polla shmeia qelete na allajei- na sygkroysteite;

PETALWTHS: Emeis klhronomhsame mia symbash gia thn opoia eixame apo thn arxh antirrhseis, tis opoies ekfrasame kai sth Boylh prin apo tis ekloges kai tis opoies ekfrazoyme mexri kai shmera. Eimaste ypoxrewmenoi, ws mia kybernhsh poy sebetai th synexeia toy kratoys, na sebastoyme ayth th symbash kai na prospaqoyme na th beltiwsoyme se ekeina ta shmeia ta opoia mporoyn na beltiwqoyn. Ta merh, de, ths symbashs einai ta gnwsta merh, etsi opws problepontai kai analyontai sth symbash.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hdh exei 10, o mhnas. Mhpws exei kaqysterhsei h apanthsh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy ston k. Erntogan, me thn opoia eyelpistoyme, dia ths apanthsews, na maqoyme kai ti proteine o k. Erntogan ston k. Papandreoy;

PETALWTHS: Otan kriqei oti qa prepei na yparxei apanthsh, qa yparjei apanthsh, h opoia qa anakoinwqei.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Sto sxedio nomoy gia tis proslhceis sto dhmosio tomea, qa yparxei problech moriodothshs gia toys apasxoloymenes me programmata stage;

PETALWTHS: To sxedio nomoy qa teqei se dhmosia diaboyleysh kai otan anakoinwqei, qa yparjoyn oles oi parathrhseis kai nomizw oti qa lyqei kai kaqe aporia, etsi wste na mporei na apanthqei kai ayth h erwthsh sas. Egw, shmera, den mporw na paroysiasw to sxedio nomoy, opws antilambaneste.

SOFIANOS: Sth xqesinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn twn HPA, ti peripoy eipwqhke, pera apo ta osa anakoinwqhkan; An yparxei kapoio paraskhnio kai an syzhthqhke gia kapoio ameso tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA.

PETALWTHS: Paraskhnio den yparxei. Yphrje mia synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn k. Klinton. Teqhkan ta zhthmata ejwterikhs politikhs poy aforoyn th xwra mas. Ean qa yparjei kapoio tajidi, qa anakoinwqei. Antilambaneste omws oti xreiazetai mia proetoimasia apo oles tis pleyres.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Stis anakoinwseis poy exoyme sta xeria mas, otan o Prwqypoyrgos epemeine sthn kokkinh grammh gia thn Prwhn Gioygkoslabikh Dhmokratia ths Makedonias, h k. Xilari Klinton perioristhke na parathrhsei oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh pairnei prwtoboylies. H dikh toys qesh panw se ayto;

PETALWTHS: H qesh twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn ths Amerikhs einai qesh dikh toys. Exei ekfrastei h qa ekfrastei apo ayth th xwra. H dikh mas omws atalanteyth qesh, einai ayth, h eqnikh kokkinh grammh, opws exei diatypwqei kai diatypwnetai kaqe hmera apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh.

MIXAHL: Epanerxomai sto prwto qema poy qijame edw, ta osa dhlwnoyn oi koinotikoi paragontes gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Ena apo ta metra poy h kybernhsh exei anakoinwsei oti qa labei gia thn anatajh ths ajiopistias ths xwras, einai h anejarthtopoihsh ths Eqnikhs Statistikhs Yphresias. To eixe anakoinwsei o k. Papakwnstantinoy. Xqes omws eidame oti oi ergazomenoi diafwnoyn, den qeloyn ayth thn anejarthtopoihsh. Kai gia toys paroikoyntes sthn Ieroysalhm den th qeloyn, oxi giati den qa ginoyn monimoi ypallhloi, alla giati xanoyn epidomata. Eisaste apofasismenoi, loipon, aytoy toy eidoys ta epidomata na ta teleiwsete kai na proxwrhsete se aytes tis metarryqmiseis, para tis antistaseis poy exete mprosta sas;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei ekfrasmenh politikh boylhsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, edw kai megalo xroniko diasthma, oti h Statistikh Yphresia prepei na anejarthtopoihqei, etsi wste epiteloys na exoyme mia safh, plhrh kai alhqh katagrafh twn oikonomikwn stoixeiwn ths xwras mas. Prwta apo ola, gia thn idia th xwra mas kai bebaiws kai gia thn ajiopistia ths.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Egw qa epistrecw sto qema toy limanioy. An qymamai kala, thn perasmenh fora mas anakoinwsate tis armodiothtes twn Ypoyrgwn se ayth th syzhthsh kai toy k. Anwmerith, gia to poion tomea exei o kaqenas. Rwtaw na maqw, thn epomenh fora poy o Kinezos Presbhs h ekproswpos ths COSCO qa qelhsei na exei synanthsh me thn kybernhsh, qa dei thn k. Katselh h ton k. Pampoykh kai ton k. Pagkalo;

PETALWTHS: Den katalaba thn erwthsh sas.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Mas eixate pei oti h k. Katselh exei ton tomea ths diapragmateyshs me toys Kinezoys. Ayto mas eixate anakoinwsei. Rwtaw, loipon...

PETALWTHS: Oti exei ton tomea...

KAMPOYRAKHS: Akribws, thn etaireia.

PETALWTHS: H k. Katselh einai ypeyqynh gia th naytiliakh politikh.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Wraia, rwtaw, loipon, an thn epomenh fora poy o Kinezos Presbhs h kapoios ekproswpos ths kinezikhs etaireias zhthsei synanthsh, an qa dei thn k. Katselh poy einai ypeyqynh h ton k. Pampoykh kai ton k. Pagkalo, opws egine xqes.

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh exei mia eniaia qesh, ws pros to qema toy limanioy. Kai opws eipa prohgoymenws, o Kinezos Presbhs eixe hdh kanei mia synanthsh me thn k. Katselh, pro hmerwn, kai xqes egine h synanthsh me ton k. Pampoykh kai ton k. Pagkalo. Den ypokryptetai tipote pisw apo aytes tis synanthseis.

SEGKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to 2002 o k. Anwmeriths, ws Ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias, eixe dwsei thn entolh gia na xtyphqoyn oi naytergates. H topoqethsh toy ston OLP, shmatodotei kati antistoixo; Na ypoqesoyme dhladh oti qa ajiopoihqei kai gia toys limenergates h empeiria toy;

PETALWTHS: H empeiria toy k. Anwmerith qa ajiopoihqei gia na yparjei diejodos me toys ergazomenoys, gia na jekinhsei kai na synexistei o dialogos kai mono.

SOFIANOS: O k. Trise stis dhlwseis toy fanhke na dinei mia elaxisth paratash 10 hmerwn sthn kybernhsh gia na katateqei kai epishma o Proypologismos. Anamenetai na allajei kati, dedomenhs ths dyspistias kai amfisbhthshs poy exoyn ekfrastei ws twra gia to prosxedio;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh menei staqerh sthn politikh ths. Pisteyoyme oti to sxedio toy Proypologismoy einai ena sxedio, to opoio pragmatika dinei ajiopista stoixeia, perigrafei kai katagrafei tis stoxeyseis kai tis politikes ths kybernhshs se ola ta epipeda.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo ta apotelesmata ths synanthshs toy k. Papandreoy me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn twn HPA;

PETALWTHS: Den nomizw oti yparxei qema ikanopoihshs h mh. Egine mia synanthsh, ekfrasthkan oi apoceis mas kai ayto htan olo.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Zhthsate sthrijh se qemata, opws me thn onomasia ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias h me tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis;

PETALWTHS: Ayta ta zhthmata exoyn ena sygkekrimeno plaisio diapragmateyshs, to opoio den allazei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Na rwthsw kati gia thn oikonomia, me dedomeno to klima dyspistias poy perigracame kai nwritera. H kybernhsh gia na steilei ena mhnyma ajiopistias qa dieyrynei th forologikh bash kai poso;

PETALWTHS: Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws kai exw dhlwsei polles fores, qa yparjei ena neo forologiko nomosxedio, sto opoio qa ejeidikeyetai h politikh ths kybernhshs sta qemata forologias.

Sas eyxaristw.

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