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Paraskeyh, 12 Ioynioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 207574868

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 12 Ioynioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Geia sas.

" O Anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Xrhstos Markogiannakhs apesteile epistolh se ola ta kommata, me thn opoia toys zhtei na orisoyn ekproswpoys toys kai na proselqoyn se syzhthsh gia antallagh apocewn sxetika me oysiwdh qemata dhmosias tajhs.

H sxetikh syskech, symfwna me thn protash toy Ypoyrgoy, prokeitai na ginei thn erxomenh Tetarth 17 Ioynioy, sto Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn.

H kybernhsh staqera kai me synepeia epidiwkei th synennohsh olwn twn kommatwn se qemata shmasias, spoydaiothtas gia th xwra kai ton polith.

Sas ypenqymizw, panw ap` ola bebaia, tis sxetikes prwtoboylies poy exei analabei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Prwtoboylies oi opoies prosekroysan, kyriws apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, se ena steiro, se ena monimo ``oxi''.

Paromoia synennohsh gia qemata dhmosias tajhs eixe epidiwjei o k. Markogiannakhs prin apo ena mhna. Emeine omws anapanthth sxetikh epistolh poy eixe apeyqynei tote (sygkekrimena stis 5 Maioy 2009) sta koinoboyleytika kommata.

Qeloyme na elpizoyme oti ayth th fora h stash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs qa einai pio epoikodomhtikh, pio oysiastikh. Kaneis den exei to dikaiwma - - etsi pisteyoyme emeis- - na arneitai th symmetoxh toy, th symbolh toy, tis idees poy exei gia th diamorfwsh politikwn se qemata kefalaiwdoys shmasias. Eidika, otan prokeitai gia thn prospaqeia poy prepei na ginetai gia thn anabaqmish toy epipedoy prostasias kai ejyphrethshs toy polith. Poly perissotero otan prokeitai gia qemata poy exoyn epeigonta xarakthra kai anaferontai kai sth dhmosia tajh kai sthn eswterikh asfaleia ths xwras. Oloi prepei na syneisferoyme, sto metro twn dynatothtwn mas, sthn epilysh dyskolwn zhthmatwn.

Osoi arnhqoyn, an arnhqoyn - -den mporw na prokatalabw tipote, egw elpizw oti oloi qa poyn ``nai'' kai qa proselqoyn sth synanthsh- -qa feroyn bebaia akeraih thn eyqynh toy ``oxi'' toys. Giati, h kybernhsh, oytws h allws, qa kanei to kaqhkon ths - -opws kanei panta to kaqhkon ths- - gia na yphrethsei ton polith kai ton topo.

H kybernhsh kanei to kaqhkon ths adialeipta ola ayta ta xronia, sto xwro ths dhmosias tajhs kai ths asfaleias, me sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies kai sto eswteriko kai sto ejwteriko.

Mporei kapoioi na periorizontai se genikologa eyxologia h na paroysiazoyn ws dhqen dikes toys prwtoboylies, draseis poy hdh briskontai se efarmogh. H alhqeia, omws, jerete, se telikh analysh, den krybetai. Xarh stis syntonismenes diplwmatikes prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, olo ayto to diasthma - -ta teleytaia dyo-dyomisi xronia, isws kai ligo parapanw ap` osa sas eipa xqes, h opoia proxwrhse stis aparaithtes synennohseis kai symmaxies qa elega, me tis xwres poy exoyn antistoixa problhmata me emas sto qema ths laqrometanasteyshs - -sas eipa oti einai h Italia, h Kypros, h Malta- - alla kai se polypleyrh enhmerwsh poy ekane h ellhnikh kybernhsh se eyrwpaiko epipedo, egine dynath h syzhthsh gia thn eyrwpaikh metanasteytikh politikh sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio poy synerxetai sto telos ths allhs ebdomadas, stis Bryjelles.

Emas mas endiaferoyn ta xeiropiasta apotelesmata kai oxi oi proskaires kai ekkwfantikes tympanokroysies, stis opoies katafeygoyn kapoioi, elpizontas oti h fwnh toys qa akoystei.

" Ena allo qema: To PASOK, gia mia akomh fora, epeleje na laikisei, epidiwkontas, xwris logo kai oysia, mia syzhthsh gia ton Organismo Thlepikoinwniwn Elladas kai episeiontas thn apeilh ths epanakratikopoihshs toy OTE. To PASOK agnoei diafora shmantika pragmata:

Prwton, oti to kratos exei synexeia.

Deyteron, thn kakh epiptwsh poy exoyn tetoioy eidoys prajeis, me morfh pyrotexnhmatos, kai stoys ependytes, alla kai sthn ajiopistia toy kratoys.

Triton, h stash ayth prodidei mia apolytws parwxhmenh antilhch oson afora thn oikonomikh drasthriothta.

Ola ayta mazi deixnoyn oti to PASOK den exei maqei apolytws tipote apo to bebarhmeno parelqon toy. Deixnoyn akomh elleimma stoixeiwdoys sobarothtas. Aytoi einai, loipon, poy qeloyn, epidiwkoyn, oneireyontai na kybernhsoyn ayrio ton topo;

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean kapoia apo ta kommata gyrisei kai sas pei oti kaleite se dialogo thn epomenh ebdomada gia ta qemata dhmosias tajhs, wstoso h kybernhsh exei hdh ek twn proterwn parei apofaseis. Xqes, akoysame tis apofaseis ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs gia to metanasteytiko. Hdh, prin apo tis eyrwekloges yphrxe Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia thn onomastikopoihsh twn kartokinhtwn kai to idiwnymo gia tis koykoyles. An kapoios loipon kathgorhsei thn kybernhsh oti aytos o dialogos ginetai ek twn ysterwn kai enw h kybernhsh exei hdh probei se kapoies energeies, qa exei adiko;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, qa exei adiko, gia na xrhsimopoihsw th dikh sas ekfrash. Den exei kamia bash mia tetoia endexomenh momfh, thn opoia eseis eikazete oti mporei na yparjei. Gia polloys logoys:

Prwton, giati h kybernhsh, oytws h allws, ofeilei na kanei to kaqhkon ths kai na analambanei tis prwtoboylies tis opoies xreiazetai o topos. Ayth einai h basikh arxh.

Deyteron, sas eipa oti hdh apo tis arxes Maioy eixe apeyqynqei sygkekrimenh protash se ola ta koinoboyleytika kommata kai ekeina, gia dikoys toys logoys, protimhsan na kwfeysoyn.

Triton, o dialogos gia ta sygkekrimena qemata einai diarkhs. Exei diafora stadia. Sas ypenqymizw oti prin apo ligoys mhnes egine ektenhs syzhthsh sth Boylh gia qemata dhmosias asfaleias, opoy kai ta kommata eixan th dynatothta na kataqesoyn tis apoceis toys, tis idees toys, tis proseggiseis toys.

Ola ayta - -to eipa kai eisagwgika- - den shmainoyn oti h kybernhsh den antapokrinetai sto kaqhkon ths, oti den qa kanei ayto poy prepei na kanei: Na dra opote xreiazetai, me opoio tropo krinei oti se telikh analysh xreiazetai. Alla, bebaiws, emeis apozhtoyme kai tis apoceis twn allwn koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn. Prepei, omws, na tis kataqetoyn. Prepei na akoygontai, prepei na proserxontai sto dialogo. An ayto, ekeinoi krinoyn oti den qeloyn na to kanoyn, einai dikh toys apofash. Alla, krinontai gi` ayth th stash.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, parola ayta, omws, ola ayta eginan me megalh kaqysterhsh. Qa elege kaneis oti syrqhkate apo ta apotelesmata twn eyrweklogwn gia na parete epiteloys metra kata ths laqrometanasteyshs kai kata twn oswn ginontai to teleytaio diasthma sthn Aqhna.

ANTWNAROS: Hsastan edw xqes;

FANIDHS: Diabazw k. Ekproswpe thn enhmerwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn, loipon, ola osa sas eipa xqes. Einai poly analytika. Einai apolytws jekaqara: H kybernhsh dra synexws olo ayto to diasthma. H kybernhsh lambanei prwtoboylies olo ayto to diasthma. H kybernhsh paroysiazei tis draseis ths synexws. Prosarmozei tis draseis ths. Eipa xqes, as mhn to jexname, oti exoyme enan ypertriplasiasmo toy ariqmoy twn laqrometanastwn ta teleytaia tria xronia, ennow apo xronia se xronia.

Einai fysiko na lambanontai kainoyrgia metra. H shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy kataskeyase - -antiqeta me o,ti ekane to PASOK poy bgainei twra kai kati cellizei, to opoio den nomizw oti exei kai kamia oysia- - ta kentra ypodoxhs twn laqrometanastwn se diafora shmeia ths xwras, opoy xreiazetai. Den yphrxe tipote. Keno brhke h shmerinh kybernhsh. Kai h kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy edw kai tria xronia kai pleon drasthriopoieitai se eyrwpaiko epipedo, prokeimenoy oi dikes mas anhsyxies, oi dikes mas egnoies, ta dika mas zhthmata, poy einai fysiko na einai megalytera apo allwn xwrwn, na ginoyn katanohta se oloys. Dioti briskomaste se ena kombiko gewgrafiko shmeio sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Exoyme terastia aktogrammh, opws eipa kai exoyme kai th geitniash me tis perioxes apo opoy proerxetai o megalos ogkos twn laqraiwn metanastwn.

H dikh mas kybernhsh, loipon, einai ayth h opoia exei paroysiasei ola ayta ta qemata stoys etairoys sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Den ftaiw egw se tipota, ean thn perasmenh ebdomada ta MME - -kai den to lew ws epikrish, alla kanw mia diapistwsh- - den qelhsan h den eixan xwro na katagracoyn thn poly shmantikh symmetoxh kai parembash toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn k. Prokoph Paylopoyloy, thn perasmenh Pempth, sth Synodo Ypoyrgwn Eswterikwn sto Loyjemboyrgo.

O Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn exei metasxei, antiqeta me o,ti synebaine me toys Ypoyrgoys Eswterikwn epi PASOK, se oles sxedon tis synanthseis twn Ypoyrgwn Eswterikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H paroysia ths Elladas einai poly energh, einai oysiastikh kai gi` ayto odhgei kai se apotelesmata, opws allwste ayto symbainei kai me thn paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Profanws, jexnate oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai ekeinos poy exei proteinei th dhmioyrgia eyrwpaikhs aktofylakhs. Einai ena qema poy syzhteitai. Syzhteitai synexws. Alla, opws sas eipa xqes, prepei na ejeyreqoyn oi xwroi, prepei na synennohqoyn oi xwres oi opoies qa metasxoyn, ekeines poy qa katabaloyn ta xrhmata. Kai ftanoyme siga-siga ekei poy prepei na ftasoyme. Den einai eykolo na peiseis tis alles xwres ths Kentrikhs kai ths Boreias Eyrwphs, poy sthn telikh analysh einai kai oi xwres kateyqynshs kai telikoy proorismoy twn mh nomimwn metanastwn, oti prepei kai gia to diko toys symferon na metasxoyn se ayth thn koinh prospaqeia. Alla, me syntonismenes energeies, h ellhnikh Politeia metexei ola ayta ta xronia poly apofasistika, me dikes ths prwtoboylies, sth diamorfwsh ths eyrwpaikhs metanasteytikhs politikhs.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, o Giwrgos Karatzaferhs sas epiteqhke proswpika kai epishs eipe oti to dilhmma einai h kybernhsh synergasias Kwsta Karamanlh-Karatzaferh h Papandreoy.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gia to sygkekrimeno qema, to exw pei. H qesh mas einai jekaqarh.

KAKARNIAS: Epeidh milhsate gia to PASOK, xqes o Proedros toy PASOK kateqese oktw, an den kanw laqos, protaseis gia to qema ths laqrometanasteyshs. Pws tis krinete sto plaisio ths synennohshs kai toy dialogoy poy eipate nwritera, metajy twn kommatwn;

ANTWNAROS: Egw perimenw na katateqoyn oi protaseis - -an qelei to PASOK, eimai bebaios oti qa to kanei, den exei logo na mhn to kanei, den qelw na pisteyw oti exei logo na mhn to kanei- - se ayto to sygkrothmeno dialogo poy proteinei o k. Markogiannakhs. Ola qa melethqoyn. Alla, kalo qa einai na mhn epanalambanontai, ws dhqen nees prwtoboylies, draseis oi opoies hdh briskontai se ejelijh. Sas to eipa kai eisagwgika.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema ths paranomhs metanasteyshs kai na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Gia xwres opws to Pakistan, poy egine kai proxqes h omadikh apelash, telos pantwn, meta apo synennohsh toy k. Markogiannakh me ton Presbeyth ths xwras ayths edw, poy to qema einai an qa dextoyn thn epaneisdoxh, yparxoyn kai xwres stis opoies apagoreyetai na toys apelasete epeidh einai empolemes zwnes. Gia paradeigma to Afganistan, to Ntarfoyr, to Soydan k.lp. 'Exete skeftei ti qa kanete me aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy apagoreyetai na toys apelasete se xwres poy einai empolemes;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei eniaia apagoreysh. H kaqe periptwsh, opws gnwrizete, elegxetai, ypoballetai se ena atomiko elegxo. Sas eipa kai xqes - - kai ayto ejakoloyqei na isxyei - - oti h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn mh nomimwn metanastwn, einai oi oikonomikoi metanastes. Kai gia oloys isxyoyn mesa sto eyrwpaiko plaisio sygkekrimenoi eniaioi kanones. Aytoys kai efarmozoyme emeis aparegklita.

MELIGKWNHS: Meta ta osa elexqhsan, kai thn kritikh poy diatypwqhke gia tis etaireies dhmoskophsewn logw twn exit polls meta tis ekloges, qa hqela na rwthsw an yparxei skech sthn kybernhsh gia na allajei o nomos poy epitrepei th dhmosiopoihsh toys ews kai dyo meres prin tis eyrwekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth th stigmh na pw kati ep' aytoy.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kaleite ta kommata se ena dialogo, alla apo th mia meria xrhsimopoieite arketa sklhroys oroys gia thn taktikh poy exei akoloyqhsei mexri twra to PASOK kai apo thn allh fantazomai pws gnwrizete oti yparxei poly megalh diafora ston tropo poy proseggizoyn to sygkekrimeno qema ta kommata. Gia paradeigma, fantazomai oti den perimenete na kaqisoyn sto idio trapezi oi ekproswpoi toy LAOS me toys ekproswpoys toy Synaspismoy kai na broyn mia koinh grammh gi' ayto to qema ths laqrometanasteyshs. Kai ayto nomizw oti to gnwrizete. Akribws ti prosdokate apo ayth th syzhthsh; Qa bgei kati to opoio qa to kanete nomo; H qa nomoqethsete prin kai aplws qa ginei mia syzhthsh ekei;

ANTWNAROS: Exw pei kai alles fores: H synennohsh den proypoqetei, den exei ws stoxo th symfwnia epi olwn twn qematwn. Exei ws prwto stoxo thn antallagh apocewn. Emeis pisteyoyme oti apo kaqe pleyra mporei na proelqoyn xrhsimes, endiaferoyses, oysiastikes, epoikodomhtikes apoceis gia ena qema to opoio syzhteitai. To epomeno stadio einai na ginei mia epejergasia, an qelete, twn apocewn oi opoies katatiqentai. Nomizw oti oloi ws 'Ellhnes polites mporoyme, opws proteine kai o Prwqypoyrgos otan eixe kalesei prin apo ligo kairo toys politikoys arxhgoys, na symfwnoyme panw se orismena aytonohta, oysiastika, proapaitoymena. Den zhtaei kaneis apo ta kommata, apo kanena komma, na egkataleicei oyte tis apoceis toy, oyte tis politikes poy qelei na efarmosei ocepote krinei o ellhnikos laos oti qelei na toy anaqesei thn diakybernhsh ths xwras.

Alla emeis ws kybernhsh qewroyme oti exoyme ena shmantiko kaqhkon: Na akoysoyme, mesa se ena domhmeno dialogo, tis apoceis olwn. Olwn ekeinwn poy o ellhnikos laos ekrine oti qelei na toys steilei na ton ekproswphsoyn, allon me megalytero pososto, allon me mikrotero pososto, alla en pash periptwsei na ton ekproswphsoyn sthn Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

Synennohsh den shmainei symfwnia epi olwn twn qematwn. Shmainei kat' arxhn antallagh apocewn, epejergasia kai ei dynaton katalhjh se orismena koina shmeia. An ayto den ginei, h kybernhsh den apempolei se kamia periptwsh to aytonohto dikaiwma to opoio exei na lambanei ekeines tis prwtoboylies poy krinei kaqe stigmh. Etsi leitoyrgoyn oi dhmokraties.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa epanelqw ligo sto qema toy k. Karatzaferh, giati milwntas sto radiofwno toy Peiraia, to Dhmotiko Radiofwno, ekane sklhrh epiqesh ston Prwqypoyrgo. Ton eipe ``anhmporo, anikano'', esas sas eipe ``Forest Gkamp''. Xrhsimopoiei ekfraseis poly sklhres. Isws qa eprepe na kanete ena sxolio panw se ayta.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, se politiko epipedo, ep' aytoy, to eipa.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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