Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-05-18

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 18 Maioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 202750289

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 18 Maioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhspera kai kalh ebdomada.

" Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs episkefqhke shmera, stis 10 to prwi, aifnidiastika, to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs, opoy eixe synanthsh me ton Ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs k. Kwsth Xatzhdakh, toys dyo Yfypoyrgoys kai fysika toys Genikoys Grammateis poy apartizoyn thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy.

Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths synanthshs, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane dhlwseis, oi opoies asfalws sas einai gnwstes.

" Ayrio, Trith 19 Maioy, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synedriasei sto Megaro Majimoy h Kybernhtikh Epitroph ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Gia to qema, qa enhmerwqeite argotera.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: To ``aifnidiastika'' synodeyotan kai apo kameres; Kai deyteron, qa synexistoyn aytes oi aifnidiastikes episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Opote krinetai oti prepei na ginei mia tetoia episkech se Ypoyrgeio, pragmatopoieitai. Den einai aifnidiastikh mia tetoia episkech, me thn ennoia toy na ejakribwqei kati to opoio einai mempto. Ennooyme oti den yparxei ek twn proterwn enhmerwsh. Phgainei o Prwqypoyrgos se ena xwro doyleias, se ena Ypoyrgeio, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei apo thn politikh hgesia gia to poy briskontai ta qemata poy pragmateyetai to sygkekrimeno Ypoyrgeio.

KAKALHS: Qa yparjoyn kai alles proeklogikes aifnidiastikes episkeceis;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos se olo to diasthma twn pente etwn kai pleon poy askeitai h ejoysia apo th shmerinh kybernhsh, synexws enhmerwnetai, synexws episkeptetai, synexws erxetai se epafh kai me toys Ellhnes polites kai me ta politika stelexh kai me ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poio einai to epishmo sxolio ths kybernhshs - -bebaiws, qa moy peite kai poio einai kai to anepishmo- - gia olh ayth thn istoria, skandalo onomazetai apo merida toy Typoy, me thn ayjhsh twn misqwn kai twn syntajewn twn boyleytwn me aformh thn apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy, meta apo prosfygh syntajioyxoy boyleyth;

ANTWNAROS: Ep` aytoy toy qematos exw topoqethqei kai sto parelqon. To gnwrizete, allwste. Parakalw, gia perissoteres plhrofories, na apeyqynqeite sth Boylh.

POLYMEROS: Xqes apo thn Patra, o Proedros toy PASOK milhse sxetika me to kleisimo ths Boylhs oti h kybernhsh ebale tafoplaka sth diafaneia. To sxolio ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: O arxhgos toy PASOK ejakoloyqei na einai egklwbismenos se ideolhcies kai se qemata poy apasxoloyn, profanws, mono ton idio kai thn hgetikh toy omada. Apofeygei systhmatika, kai sygkrothmeno kai synoliko kai realistiko sxedio gia thn antimetwpish twn zhthmatwn poy apasxoloyn, pragmatika, toys polites na paroysiasei. Me tis topoqethseis aytes tis opoies kanei epibebaiwnei jana kai jana oti leei ``oxi se ola'', giati ton fobizei h analhch opoiasdhpote eyqynhs.

Oti skandalologei systhmatika eytelizontas th politikh zwh toy topoy kai th Dikaiosynh.

Oti eklogologei diarkws, giati to mono poy ton noiazei einai, opws allwste paradexontai dhmosia koryfaia stelexh toy, pws qa katalabei thn ejoysia, poy profanws thn blepei, thn antimetwpizei, ws lafyro.

Aytes oi proswpikes agwnies toy arxhgoy toy PASOK kai twn stenwn synergatwn toy afhnoyn pagera adiaforoys oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Toys Ellhnes polites poy gnwrizoyn poly kala oti to mono komma, o monos politikos sxhmatismos poy exei kai sygkrothmeno kai sygkekrimeno kai realistiko kai efarmosimo sxedio, poy efarmozetai hdh, einai to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai h kybernhsh toy Kwsta Karamanlh. Sxedio - - to lew gia mia akoma fora - - poy stoxo exei thn amblynsh twn epiptwsewn ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs. Sxedio poy sthrizetai stis allages kai tis metarryqmiseis.

Emeis, pisteyoyme akradanta oti eidika se aytes tis dyskoles peristaseis, oi allages kai oi metarryqmiseis prepei na proxwrhsoyn. Twra einai h wra na ginoyn kai alles allages kai alles metarryqmiseis. Allages poy qa ejasfalisoyn oti h xwra qa einai kala proetoimasmenh gia thn epomenh mera. Mono etsi qa paei mprosta h Ellada. Etsi qa pane mprosta oloi oi Ellhnes polites. Kai oxi fysika me ta qaymata, poy fainetai na arxise na eyaggelizetai jafnika o arxhgos toy PASOK.

KAKALHS: Telika an krinoyme kai apo to eyrwchfodeltio ths Neas Dhmokratias, h kybernhsh qewrei tis eyrwekloges ws prokrima gia tis eqnikes ekloges kai ena eidos dhmochfismatos gia thn kybernhsh kai thn politikh ths, opws eixe anaferei kai h kyria Mpakogiannh. Telika, poio einai to diakybeyma twn eyrweklogwn gia thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqe eklogikh anametrhsh, to exw pei oles tis fores, exei politikh shmasia. Alla einai gnwsto ti syzhtietai se aytes tis ekloges. Einai gnwsto poio einai to antikeimeno aytwn twn eklogwn. Einai gnwsto, epishs, oti opws se kaqe eklogikh anametrhsh etsi kai se ayth kaqe chfos metraei. O Ellhnas poliths exei th dynatothta na ekfrastei dia ths chfoy toy. Kai eimai bebaios oti oi Ellhnes polites qa to kanoyn ypeyqyna.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to PASOK thn perasmenh bdomada eixe proteinei kapoies thleoptikes syzhthseis kai eixate apanthsei, legontas oti den blepete ton logo na ginei kati diaforetiko apo ayto poy egine to 2004. Eikazw apo thn apanthsh sas oti qewreite oti prepei na ginei mono mia metajy twn pente koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, meta thn anakoinwsh twn chfodeltiwn, an epimenete sth qesh ayth. Kai giati qewreite oti den prepei na ginei kati diaforetiko apo th stigmh poy h anametrhsh gia tis eyrwekloges gia th qesh twn kommatwn mexri twra einai poly hpia, poly periorismenh.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto poy eipa thn perasmenh bdomada isxyei fysika sto akeraio. Kai qa hqela na pw oti einai gnwsto giati syzhtame, poio einai to antikeimeno ths anametrhshs se aytes tis ekloges. Qa htan allwste san na ypotimoysame th symmetoxh twn allwn politikwn dynamewn sth diamorfwsh ths koinhs gnwmhs, ean me ayto to antikeimeno s' aytes tis ekloges epilegame na kanoyn mia syzhthsh mono oi dyo politikoi arxhgoi, opws proteinei to PASOK.

Allwste, qa sas qymisw - - symboyleytikh bebaia einai h apoch h opoia ekei diatypwnetai - - oti ayta ta qemata syzhthqhkan sthn prwth synedriash ths Diakommatikhs Epitrophs. Qa erqei kai h wra, otan einai na kriqei poios qa kybernhsei ton topo, na ginei kai ayth h syzhthsh.

XIWTHS: Ektos apo thn thleoptikh monomaxia twn dyo arxhgwn, to PASOK proteinei kai mia syzhthsh metajy twn epikefalhs twn eyrwchfodeltiwn. Ayth giati thn arneitai h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den eipa kati tetoio. Ayto einai kati to opoio einai pros syzhthsh. Qa to doyme kai qa topoqethqoyme. Alla egw den pisteyw oti epitrepetai na agnohsoyme tis alles politikes dynameis toy topoy, oi opoies kai aytes syndiamorfwnoyn thn politikh antilhch ths koinhs gnwmhs ston topo mas.

KAKALHS: An kai edw kai polles meres o Prwqypoyrgos milaei gia thn anagkh na ginei h eklogikh anametrhsh me kaqaroys politikoys oroys kai thn anadeijh problhmatwn kaqhmerinothtas sthn prwth grammh, wstoso den exw dei apo th meria ths kybernhshs kapoio problhma na to ferei sthn prwth grammh kai na to anadeijei. Gia paradeigma, den exw akoysei tipota gia th ftwxeia, den exw akoysei tipote na pei gia thn anergia, gia ta asfalistika problhmata, gia toys xamhloys misqoys kai tis syntajeis. Gia ola ayta, h kybernhsh den leei koybenta kai antistoixa protimaei toys frastikoys diajifismoys me to PASOK. Ara;

ANTWNAROS: Den diabasate, profanws, oyte xqes thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oyte proxqes, oyte tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

KAKALHS: Oi anafores den shmainei oti einai kai oi lyseis twn problhmatwn. Aples anafores einai. Perigrafikes kai tipote gia th lysh twn problhmatwn.

ANTWNAROS: Oi anafores ginontai me sygkekrimena stoixeia. Anaferoyn poly sygkekrimena poso ayjhqhke to EKAS. Poso ayjhqhke h syntajh toy OGA. Poso shmantika ayjhqhke to aforologhto gia to foro eisodhmatos. Anaferontai prwtoboylies, oi opoies exoyn lhfqei. Shmera to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwqhke gia tis meiwseis timwn se ena shmantiko ariqmo proiontwn kaqhmerinhs xrhshs. Eixa kanei anafora, allwste, kai egw thn perasmenh ebdomada. Sas eipa oti o k. Xatzhdakhs kai o k. Blaxos eixan kanei sxetikh anakoinwsh gia 160 - -an qymamai- - proionta, ta opoia briskontai katw apo synexh parakoloyqhsh, synexeis elegxoys. Ayta asfalws einai stoixeia, ta opoia symballoyn sthn amblynsh anisothtwn poy asfalws yparxoyn sthn koinwnia mas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to thleoptiko debate twn politikwn arxhgwn: Sth syzhthsh ayth exei apofasistei na ekproswphqoyn mono oi epikefalhs, oi politikoi arxhgoi twn koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn; Giati se ayth thn anametrhsh yparxei kai to komma toy k. Stefanoy Manoy, yparxoyn, epishs, oi Oikologoi Prasinoi, stoys opoioys oi dhmoskophseis dinoyn ychla pososta. Exei apofasistei telika oti qa symmetexoyn h qa apokleistoyn apo th syzhthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, to eipa kai shmera, oti den blepw to logo giati na allajei h diadikasia poy eixe akoloyqhqei tis perasmenes fores gia tis eyrwekloges.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, lew, epeidh qa to qesoyn. Profanws me ayto yponoeite oti...

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Ayth einai h qesh ths kybernhshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Stis diamartyries, dhladh, twn mikroterwn kommatwn;

ANTWNAROS: Molis topoqethqhka.

Sas eyxaristw.

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