Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-04-29

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 29 Aprilioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 199358894

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 29 Aprilioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera sas.

" Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, kata thn opoia syzhthqhkan qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn kai sygkekrimena to xwrotajiko sxedio gia thn toyristikh anaptyjh. Gnwrizete oti to sxedio ayto eixe doqei pros diaboyleysh. H diaboyleysh oloklhrwqhke kai to sxedio hrqe sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph pros egkrish. Sxetikes dhlwseis ekane o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Soyflias, kata thn ejodo toy apo to Megaro Majimoy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas. Qa apanthsw se liges erwthseis, giati prepei na speysw sto aerodromio. Feygw se ligo me ton Prwqypoyrgo gia th Barsobia, sth Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos, sthn opoia anaferqhka xqes.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw gia thn ypoqesh Paylidh kai pws antimetwpizete to endexomeno boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias na chfisoyn ektos grammhs sthn chfoforia ths Deyteras.

ANTWNAROS: Einai aytonohto oti se tetoia zhthmata oyte yparxei, oyte mporei na yparxei qema grammhs. Oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn --fysika kai oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias-- chfizoyn, opws allwste sas eipa kai xqes, kata thn krish toys. Chfizoyn kata syneidhsh. Kai ayto ofeiloyme na to sebomaste oloi mas.

KAKALHS: H apoxh einai h nea meqodos gia na lamcei h alhqeia, h meqodos poy epilegei h kybernhsh gia na lamcei h alhqeia stis ypoqeseis poy ftanoyn sth Boylh; Giati epilejate th meqodo ths apoxhs gia th deyterh dikografia; Fobaste kati; Den exete na apanthsete;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka xqes, molis egine gnwsth h kataqesh toy sxetikoy aithmatos apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Kai anarwtiemai alhqeia, ti einai ayto poy ekane orismenoys apo toys koryfaioys ekproswpoys toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na ejapolysoyn proswpikes epiqeseis se baros moy ws ean h Nea Dhmokratia kai o Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs den exei to dikaiwma na topoqethqei amesws molis ginei gnwsth mia prwtoboylia toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

Sthn oysia toy erwthmatos sas: Ejhghsa me apolyth safhneia oti emeis den prokeitai na symprajoyme sth diadikasia poy stoxo exei na synexizei na eytelizei kai th Dikaiosynh kai thn politikh zwh toy topoy. Ayth einai mia apegnwsmenh prospaqeia toy PASOK na byqisei th xwra se mia ateleiwth skandalologia.

Kai prosqetw gia mia akomh fora, gia na to kanw safes, safestero apo o,ti hdh einai ayto to qema: To PASOK einai xwris sxedio gia ta oysiastika qemata ta opoia apasxoloyn oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. To PASOK den exei realistikes lyseis. To PASOK katafeygei se eyxologia. To PASOK, dia toy arxhgoy toy, fainetai oti exei epilejei - -kai to lew gia mia akomh fora- - sto ejwteriko malista, na eleeinologei kai na katasykofantei th xwra, th xwra th dikh toy. Gi` ayto to kanei o k. Papandreoy kai profanws exei syneidhsh twn oswn kanei.

Kai epeidh ola ayta poy sas eipa prohgoymenws den ta diaqetei, katafeygei se ayta ta mikrokommatika texnasmata, se qemata aney oysias.

Emeis sebomaste th Dikaiosynh. Kai qa sas ypenqymisw, loipon, gia na prokatalabw thn epomenh erwthsh sas - -thn opoia aplws, bebaiws, eikazw- - oti aytos o fakelos, ton opoio epikaleitai to PASOK gia na zhthsei th systash mias neas proanakritikhs epitrophs, estalh apo ton anakrith Rodoy ``xwris ajiologhsh kai xwris xarakthrismo''.

Aformes kai profaseis mallon caxnei na brei to PASOK gia na kanei ayto poy sas eipa prohgoymenws: Eytelismos, geloiopoihsh ths ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs kai ths politikhs zwhs toy topoy. Emeis se ayth th diadikasia den qa symprajoyme gi` aytoys akribws toys logoys. Einai safes ayto to opoio lew kai den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite alla den einai mia allh ypoqesh ayth, h opoia prepei na diereynhqei kai apo th Boylh; Giati ek twn ysterwn apallassete...

ANTWNAROS: Molis sas apanthsa.

KAKALHS: Katalaba ti moy eipate, alla pws proejofleite oti den prepei na diereynhqei apo th Boylh; Giati apallassete prokatabolika;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ejhghsa.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai gegonos oti exete anebasei toys tonoys, gia ayto isws dexeste kai proswpikes epiqeseis apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Ayto shmainei oti etoimazomaste gia kati parapanw apo tis Eyrwekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Exw pei ti akribws problepetai na ginei stis 7 Ioynioy: Qa diejaxqoyn oi eyrwekloges. Oi eyrwekloges ginontai stis 27 xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Egw den exw anebasei kanenan tono. O tonos einai panta o idios.

Profanws se orismenoys - -kai den ennow esas, ennow thn hgetikh omada toy PASOK- - den toys aresei na toys les thn alhqeia me apla logia. ``Katamoytra'', opws leei o laos. Den moy aresei h ekfrash, alla qa th xrhsimopoihsw. Kai eipe kapoios xqes apo aytoys, toys ekproswpoys ths hgetikhs omadas, oti h kritikh exei kai ta oria ths. Profanws den exei gia ekeinoys, alla prepei na exei gia emas. Gia thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, thn opoia exw th megalh timh na ekproswpw. Qa ta akoyne, oso kai an den toys aresei. Kai qa ta akoyne me tropo jekaqaro, giati ayta ta opoia lene einai tis perissoteres fores ejwpragmatika kai poly syxna exoyn to xarakthra ths apiqanothtas.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh exoyme eyrwekloges, parathrw oti sthn atzenta twn syzhthsewn kai twn diajifismwn anamesa stoys ekproswpoys twn kommatwn apoysiazoyn teleiws ta eyrwpaika qemata. Kai gia na sas prolabw, h syzhthsh twn skandalwn h telos pantwn h koybenta gyrw ap' ola ayta, poy den exei kamia sxesh fysika me thn kaqayth dynatothta ths maxhs twn eklogwn, qa mporoyse na tropopoihqei ean akoyga esas h opoiondhpote allon ekproswpo ths kybernhshs na qetei ena meizon eyrwpaikoy endiaferontos qema sthn atzenta gia na koybentiasoyme. Den to akoyw ayto oyte apo sas, oyte apo thn antipoliteysh.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, epeidh tis teleytaies fores den exete elqei, eidallws qa to eixate akoysei apo mena. To meizon eyrwpaiko qema einai h oikonomia. Einai h oikonomikh katastash. Einai ena koino qema to opoio apasxolei oloys toys Eyrwpaioys, oloys toys laoys ths Eyrwphs, ola ta krath-melh ths Eyrwphs. Einai enas tomeas ston opoio h kybernhsh edw kai kairo, poly prin arxisei - -allwste thn epomenh bdomada arxizei- - h proeklogikh ekstrateia gia tis eyrwekloges, exei analabei sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies.

Apo thn prwth stigmh h kybernhsh htan paroysa. Einai synexws apo panw. Parakoloyqei tis ejelijeis kai kanei o,ti einai aparaithto, o,ti einai anagkaio, o,ti einai xrhsimo gia ton topo. Kai ti blepoyme apo thn allh pleyra; Thn katafygh s' ayth thn akrath skandalologia.

Dioti h prosfora, h symmetoxh, h syneisfora toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs einai mhdenikh. Lene pragmata ta opoia den exoyn sxesh me ta osa syzhtoyntai sthn Eyrwph. Kai eimai bebaios, oti o k. Papandreoy stis syxnes toy ejormhseis se eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses kai eyrwpaikes poleis, stis epafes poy exei me Eyrwpaioys politikoys kai hgetes qa to diapistwnei synexws: oti ayta ta opoia leei sto eswteriko ths xwras den einai antikeimeno syzhthshs, den einai antikeimeno problhmatismoy, ektos twn synorwn ths xwras.

Prospaqei loipon me kenologies kai eyxologia, dhqen na apanthsei. Kai to apotelesma einai ena: Den exei kamia syneisfora, den exei kamia symmetoxh. Kai epeidh to diapistwnei, katafeygei se ayta ta mikrokommatika texnasmata ta opoia sthn oysia ton apomonwnoyn.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh, alla apantoyn omws kai oi boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos stoys idioys oroys kai me thn idia logikh.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den topoqetoymai se dhlwseis h topoqethseis boyleytwn. Ekfrazw omws - -qa moy epitrecete na sas pw- - ypeyqyna, ayqentika th qesh ths kybernhshs.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti meizon eyrwpaiko qema einai h oikonomia. Kai etsi einai. To qema einai oti me ayto ton tropo apodexeste oti stis eyrwkalpes qa kriqei h politikh ths kybernhshs...

ANTWNAROS: Eipa egw tetoio pragma;

KAKALHS: Profanws, afoy einai meizon eyrwpaiko qema h oikonomia, stis eyrwkalpes qa chfisoyme gi' ayto to qema. Ti allo ennoeite;

ANTWNAROS: H prosfygh stis kalpes exei sygkekrimeno antikeimeno.

KAKALHS: Thn eklogh twn 22 eyrwboyleytwn.

ANTWNAROS: Akribws.

KAKALHS: Wraia, ara den qa exete kanena problhma na parete 27% opws deixnoyn ta gkalop.

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete, antiqeta me sas h alloys, oi opoioi biazontai na bgaloyn apotelesmata, na protimw na perimenw thn ekfrash twn Ellhnwn politwn stis kalpes, th sygkekrimenh hmera. Den qelw na kanw probleceis. Eseis diakindyneyete probleceis. Einai dikaiwma sas. Qelw na sas pw loipon to ejhs: Ekeino to opoio eipa einai oti mesa sth syzhthsh poy ginetai gia thn Eyrwph ena apo ta qemata poy syzhtioyntai, shmantiko, koryfaio, einai to qema ths oikonomias.

KAKALHS: Kai ara qa kriqei stis 7 Ioynh, profanws.

ANTWNAROS: Ean ayto etsi to ermhneyete.

KAKALHS: Ti allo mporei na einai; Ti allo ennoeite eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Polla alla einai ta qemata. Exete akoysei gia th synqhkh ths Lissabonas;

KAKALHS: Nai. Poses fores to exei balei ayto h kybernhsh sthn kalph;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh to exei qesei polles fores. Kai h kybernhsh, gia na xrhsimopoihsw th dikh sas ekfrash, to exei syzhthsei. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos exei kanei polles anafores me toys eyrwpaioys hgetes, me toys opoioys tis teleytaies ebdomades synanthqhke se diafores prwteyoyses ths Eyrwphs.

KAKALHS: Ston ellhniko lao den exei pei tipota.

ANTWNAROS: Ston ellhniko lao apeyqynetai o Prwqypoyrgos otan kanei dhmosies dhlwseis. Den exete para na tis diabazete.

Sas eyxaristw.

" H epomenh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn kai twn antapokritwn jenoy Typoy qa pragmatopoihqei th Deytera, 4 Maioy.

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