Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-04-15

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 15 Aprilioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 196805055

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 15 Aprilioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera sas.

" Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Kata th synedriash, syzhthqhkan qemata poy aforoyn sta dhmosia erga ths xwras. O Ypoyrgos k. Soyflias, aneptyje me polles leptomereies, me poly analytiko tropo, ola osa exoyn ginei kai ola osa ejakoloyqoyn na ginontai. Osa programmatizontai se oloys toys tomeis poy aforoyn ta dhmosia erga: To odiko diktyo, ta aerodromia, ta limania, ta fragmata, ton problepomeno diplasiasmo toy metro. Se ayta ta qemata anaferqhke prin apo ligo o k. Soyflias ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy.

" Proxqes, th Deytera, o ekproswpos toy PASOK gia qemata Anaptyjhs, xanontas thn aisqhsh toy metroy kai ths pragmatikothtas, edwse sth dhmosiothta ceytika stoixeia. Ayta ta stoixeia, fysika ta melethse to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai eidikotera o armodios Yfypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Blaxos kai diapistwse ayth thn aparadekth parapoihsh twn stoixeiwn.

Sygkekrimena, o ekproswpos toy PASOK epikalesthke stoixeia toy OOSA, xwris na mpei ston kopo na ta elegjei, me apotelesma osoys ypologismoys kai osa symperasmata proekycan apo ayta, na einai bebaia ola laqos. Th stigmh poy oloi paradexontai oti oi times paramenoyn staqeres -- ta Mesa Mazikhs Enhmerwshs, oi katanalwtikes organwseis, anaferw synolika merikoys apo toys foreis  to PASOK mhxaneyetai tropoys gia na dysfhmisei th xwra kai thn agora kai na prokalesei esfalmenes entypwseis stoys polites.

Proxqes, oi ``armodioi'' toy PASOK eipan cemata. Mperdecan thn timh toy deikth twn proiontwn diatrofhs, poy gia ton mhna Martio toy 2009 htan 116,98 monades, me to syntelesth staqmishs ths idias omadas proiontwn poy einai pososto, 178,2 tois xiliois. Etsi, jekinwntas apo ceytika stoixeia, osoi ypologismoi kai symperasmata akoloyqhsan, einai ektos pragmatikothtas, dinontas  epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora  ceytikh eikona.

An eipan cemata giati den hjeran, einai apla afereggyoi.

An eipan cemata apo politikh epilogh  to exoyn kanei allwste polles fores  einai adistaktoi kai ws ek toytoy, epikindynoi kai gia na kybernhsoyn th xwra kai gia na diaxeiristoyn tis tyxes toy topoy.

Ofeiloyn loipon na zhthsoyn sygnwmh apo ton ellhniko lao, giati ton paraplhroforhsan, giati toy eipan cemata, giati edwsan laqos stoixeia. Ola ta sxetika stoixeia periexontai se anakoinwsh, thn opoia exei ekdwsei o Yfypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Blaxos.

" Alla, bebaia, den me ekplhttei kaqoloy ayth h taktikh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Xqes, sto basiko sxoliasmo ton opoio dianemei kaqe mera to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, periexetai sto edafio poy anaferetai ston k. Soyflia  kai sygkekrimena sthn tetarth paragrafo  h ejhs frash, thn opoia kai qa sas diabasw gia na katalabete poia einai h ajiopistia twn stoixeiwn toy PASOK. Grafoyn loipon : To 2004 h kybernhsh Karamanlh, opws paradexetai kai o k. Soyflias, parelabe ena basiko sxedio epikairopoihshs klp, klp.

Eji xronia meta, dhladh shmera, arkesthke se anakoinwseis. Oyte aplh ariqmhtikh den jeroyn na kanoyn. Aples ariqmhtikes prajeis. Ta pente xronia ta kanoyn eji. Ayto ta leei ola. Adiorqwtoi einai!

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Sto qema ths akribeias, sto opoio anaferqhkate, h kybernhsh pera apo to na kokoromaxei me to PASOK, kayxatai gia tis times oti einai sta persina epipeda th stigmh poy oi times perysi eixan diamorfwqei katw apo thn ephreia ths episitistikhs krishs kai twn ayjhmenwn timwn sta kaysima. Kai twra, enw exoyn pesei ayta paramenoyn oi times sta idia epipeda kai to qewreite katorqwma;

ANTWNAROS: Oi elegxoi einai diarkeis. Kai as mhn jexnaei kaneis oti yparxoyn metrhseis, poy ginontai kai apo thn Ellhnikh Statistikh Yphresia kai apo tis eyrwpaikes statistikes yphresies. Ola ayta, loipon, ta opoia leei to PASOK den exoyn kamia apolytws bash. Emeis, kanoyme to kaqhkon mas. H Politeia kanei to kaqhkon ths, enteinei toys elegxoys kai kanei o,ti einai aparaithto. Kai ekeino, to opoio egw qelw na epishmanw, en prokeimenw, einai kati poly aplo: Tis alxhmeies, tis opoies kapoioi mesa sto PASOK prospaqoyn na kanoyn, opws ekanan alxhmeies kai sto parelqon. Mhn to jexname ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw hqela na rwthsw gia thn ypoqesh Paylidh. Me aformh to gegonos oti plhqainoyn oi fwnes sth Nea Dhmokratia, poy zhtoyn na paraithqei o k. Paylidhs, alla to basiko gia shmera einai oti ektos aytoy qetoyn kai ena dilhmma. H na paraithqei h o Prwqypoyrgos na ton paraithsei, na ton apomakrynei apo thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai na pame se ekloges. Anaferomai kai epikaloymai ton k. Soyrla. Paroti eseis epikaleiste to porisma ths Epitrophs, blepw oti oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias biazontai poly. Giati;

ANTWNAROS: Na pw ena pragma. Ayto poy eipa kai xqes kai proxqes kai oles tis alles meres : Exoyme se ejelijh mia sobarh koinoboyleytikh diadikasia. Antikeimeno ths einai h diereynhsh mias sygkekrimenhs ypoqeshs. Gnwrizete oti h kybernhsh epiqymei th diereynhsh ayths ths ypoqeshs, opws kai kaqe allhs ypoqeshs mexri teloys, plhrws kai thn oloklhrwsh ayths ths diadikasias qa thn anameinoyme. Den exw na pw kati allo.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete poios eyqynetai gia to dhmosionomiko elleimma poy apogeiwqhke sto 4,8% toy AEP to 2008, an einai akribh ta stoixeia kai enw h kybernhsh me ton persino proypologismo proeblepe oti qa einai sto 1,8%. Mporeite na mas peite poios eyqynetai gia ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws. Molis, thn perasmenh ebdomada topoqethqhke o k. Papaqanasioy me dhmosies dhlwseis. Den exw kanena logo na epanalabw osa exw pei.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete sto plaisio ayto thn ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Elladas kai tis protaseis...

ANTWNAROS: Apo oti gnwrizw h paroysiash einai se ejelijh. Alla ektos toytoy h Trapeza ths Ellados exei th dikia ths skopia, me bash thn opoia topoqeteitai. Egw den sxoliazw pote tis ekqeseis toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados. Den to exw kanei ola ayta ta xronia kai den prokeitai na to kanw oyte kai shmera. Kai gnwrizw, poly kala, oti oles oi ektimhseis, olwn twn forewn lene oti h anaptyjh sthn Ellada, estw kai oriaka, qa exei qetiko proshmo. Ayto to leei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. To lene oloi...

KAKALHS: Den to lene.

ANTWNAROS: To lene oloi se mia stigmh poy olh h Eyrwph exei arnhtikoys ryqmoys anaptyjhs.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe gia to qema toy Palaiokwsta qa hqela na sas rwthsw. Exei fygei apo thn astynomia me elikoptero, exei fygei apo thn astynomia me aytokinhto. Oyte me ta podia mporese na ton piasei; Tiqetai qema ...

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw mhn dhmioyrgeite esfalmenes entypwseis. Me erwthseis tetoioy eidoys mono esfalmenes entypwseis mporeite na dhmioyrghsete. H astynomia leitoyrgei me epixeirhsiaka sxedia ta opoia egw den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw k. Ekproswpe qa epanelqw sthn ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados, poy eipate oti einai se ejelijh. Wstoso oi dhmosiografikes plhrofories anaferoyn -- kai tis epikaloymai bebaiws ws dhmosiografos -- oti h anaptyjh poy problepei o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados qa einai mhdenikh gia thn Ellada otan eseis lete oti estw kai oriaka qa exei qetiko proshmo.

ANTWNAROS: H diafora, en pash periptwsei, einai oti h anaptyjh qa einai poly panw apo to meso oro ths Eyrwphs. Ayto einai safes kai ayto bgainei apo oloys toys dieqneis ektimhtes. Ean eseis qelete na mhdenizete tis epidoseis ths xwras mas, ayto einai diko sas qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: O Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados...

ANTWNAROS: Den anaferomai se sas. Ta stoixeia einai dieqnh, ta stoixeia proerxontai apo thn EUROSTAT, apo thn Eyrwpaikh Statistikh Yphresia kai einai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai kati allo ep'aytoy, an moy epitrepete na kanw thn erwthsh, epeidh h ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Ellados h mallon epeidh o idios proxwra ena bhma parapera kai eishgeitai symfwna panta me dhmosiografikes plhrofories, dekaetes programma dhmosionomikhs litothtas gia th meiwsh kai toy xreoys kai twn elleimmatwn.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den sxoliazw thn ekqesh. Den exw sxoliasei pote thn ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados. En pash periptwsei, einai gnwsto poia einai ta problhmata ta opoia exei h xwra mas, apo poy proerxontai ayta ta problhmata, poioys stoxoys exoyme qesei, ti prospaqeies kataballoyme kai me poio tropo qa epidiwjoyme na ta antimetwpisoyme. Ola ayta ta pragmata exoyn eipwqei polles fores. Exoyn analyqei leptomerws kai bebaiws einai dikaiwma sas se mia mera poy den yparxei eidhseografia na epanerxeste se ayta ta qemata, alla egw den exw na prosqesw tipota kainoyrgio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sygnwmh, alla h ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados den einai ypoqesh dhmosiografikhs mono anaforas.

KAKARNIAS: Exete kapoia enhmerwsh gia to qema ths Olympiakhs; Kaqhlwqhkan dekatessera aeroskafh oyte gia blabes, oyte gia texnikoys elegxoys se mia idiaitera krisimh periodo, opws einai to Pasxa, me apotelesma na talaipwrhqei polys kosmos.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to sygkekrimeno qema. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

KAKALHS: Milhsate gia mhdenismo twn epidosewn ths xwras, alla poies akribws epidoseis ennoeite; Gia paradeigma blepw oti mono shmera exoyme meiwsh 35% toy deikth newn paraggeliwn sth biomhxania ton Febroyario, exoyme triplasiasmo twn akalyptwn epitagwn to A trimhno toy 2009 se sxesh me to 2008, exoyme ...

ANTWNAROS: Apo poy ta exete ayta ta stoixeia;

KAKALHS: Einai ta epishma stoixeia ths Eqnikhs Statistikhs Yphresias. Den exete enhmerwqei;

ANTWNAROS: Thn dikh sas phgh qelw na gnwrizw.

KAKALHS: Kai kata deyteron h anergia, to jerete poly kala, teinei se dichfia pososta. Hqela na rwthsw, pera ap ayto, gia tis epidoseis poy eipate sthn arxh. To programma gia th reystothta poy akribws metafrazetai sthn prajh, sthn enisxysh ths pragmatikhs oikonomias; Otan blepoyme oti ola pane pros thn xeiroterh kateyqynsh.

ANTWNAROS: Hsastan edw xqes;

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn oi xqesines moy apanthseis.

KAKALHS: Xqes den jerate ti akribws eixe ginei sth synanthsh toy Dioikhth...

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Edwsa apanthsh ep aytoy xqes.

KAKALHS: Nai, wraia, mporeite na mas peite giati sth syskech katadeixthke oti sto telos Aprilh qa dwsoyn stoixeia gia to programma reystothtas oi trapezes. Eseis mas legate toso kairo me toys epoptes kai to Symboylio Epopteias, oti qa jerete akribws poy qa doqei kai to teleytaio eyrw. Kai twra lete telos Aprilh.

ANTWNAROS: Blepete, xwris na exw kamia diaqesh antidikias mazi sas, oti den eiste kala enhmeros. Molis prin apo treis ebdomades sas eipa oti anelaban yphresia oi epitropoi...

KAKALHS: Den gnwrizoyn poy paei kai to teleytaio eyrw; Etsi legate. Den elegxete tis trapezes;

ANTWNAROS: Synepws, opws sas eipa kai xqes, to problhma ths reystothtas einai ena genikeymeno problhma to opoio yparxei se oloklhrh thn Eyrwph, se oloklhro ton kosmo...

KAKALHS: Den syzhtame ayto twra.

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete thn apanthsh moy na thn dwsw egw, opws qelw. Den qa moy ypagoreysete eseis thn apanthsh.

KAKALHS: Na apantate se ayto poy sas rwtaw. Ta stoixeia qa doqoyn, eipan, sto telos toy Aprilh. Giati; Ypotiqetai oti exete balei epitropoys kai prepei na jerete poy paei kai to teleytaio eyrw. Yparxei Symboylio Epopteias. Ayto ti shmainei;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, antilambaneste oti oi anqrwpoi oi opoioi anelaban prin apo liges meres, molis prin apo dyo bdomades, xreiazontai enan ikano xrono prokeimenoy na enhmerwqoyn. Na einai se qesh na dwsoyn ekeina ta stoixeia ta opoia apaitoyntai. Deyteron, ekeino to opoio einai shmantiko kai prepei na antilhfqoyn oloi -- kai dyskoleyontai orismenoi oi opoioi profanws exoyn poly stenh antilhch na to doyn kai den jeroyn pws leitoyrgei ayth th stigmh h oikonomia se olo ton kosmo  einai oti yparxei problhma reystothtas kai ejakoloyqei na yparxei se olo ton kosmo.

Ayto katagrafetai ston dieqnh Typo, sta dieqnh Mesa. Siga-siga dystyxws me argoys ryqmoys , me argoteroys ryqmoys apo ekeinoys poy qa qelame, me argoteroys ryqmoys apo ekeinoys poy einai epiqymhtoi gia oloys mas, bgainei to diaqesimo xrhma kai phgainei pros ta ekei poy prepei na paei, sta noikokyria , stis mikres epixeirhseis.

KAKALHS: Pws to jerete ayto; Afoy den yparxoyn stoixeia, sto telos toy Aprilh, eipan, oti qa sas ta dwsoyn. Mas koroideyete; Koroideyete ton ellhniko lao;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti ayto ginetai me argoteroys ryqmoys apo ekeinoys poy qa epiqymoysame.

KAKALHS: Peste mas poy einai oi ryqmoi; Poy briskontai;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati se osa sas eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes afhsate metewro ena erwthma poy sas eixa qesei gia to posoys afora h xorhghsh ths ektakths enisxyshs twn 500 eyrw gia osoys exoyn labei stegastika daneia prwths katoikias.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth th stigmh perissotera stoixeia.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Pasxa.

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