Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-03-30

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 30 Martioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 194040831

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 30 Martioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera kai kalh ebdomada.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean htan enhmeros o Prwqypoyrgos gia to geyma ths k. Mpakogiannh me ton k. Soyflia, thn perasmenh ebdomada.

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei gi` ayta ta qemata. Den exw na pw kati allo.

SPYRAKH: Den exete topoqethqei gi` ayto to shmeio.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa asxolhqw allo me qemata parapolitikhs. Exw pei polles fores oti oi synanthseis metajy Ypoyrgwn, se kaqe kybernhsh, fysika kai sth xwra mas, einai aytonohto qema. Ean exei kapoios endiaferon na synthrhsei ena anyparkto qema, as to kanei. Pantws, to qema einai ontws anyparkto.

XIWTHS: Egw pali, kyrie Ekproswpe, mperdeythka ligo me ton Prwqypoyrgo, to Sabbato sth Zakynqo. Qa hqela, an exete thn kalosynh, na moy aposafhnisete dyo shmeia: To prwto shmeio einai, otan o Prwqypoyrgos leei oti den einai kollhmenos me thn karekla - -den to apodidw akribws, alla kapws etsi to eipe- - kai apo thn allh, oti qa synexisei na paleyei astamathta gia na jeperasei h xwra thn krish kai gia ta problhmata toy topoy, ti akribws ennoei;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, na diabasete prosektika thn omilia. Ola osa exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos einai safh.

XIWTHS: Ekeino poy den katalaba kala, paroti oyte sto prwto me diafwtisate, elpizw sto deytero na to kanete, otan o Prwqypoyrgos anaferei oti ayta einai agxh allwn, poioys akribws ennoei;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws, thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Exw anaferqei polles fores kai egw, opws gnwrizete, sta proswpika agxh toy k. Papandreoy.

XIWTHS: Mono h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh exei;

ANTWNAROS: Tetoia agxh exei mono h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Parakalw, kai h parapolitikh exei ta oria ths.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti ola einai safh, alla o Prwqypoyrgos den apanthse sto ``an xasw, feygw'' kai afhnei me ayto ton tropo na sernetai h diadoxologia.

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste parakalw thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai nomizw oti qa parete apanthseis se ola. Diabaste thn omilia, opws akribws egine, kai oxi opws epilektika apodidetai - -me fraseis oi opoies den yparxoyn mesa sthn omilia- - se mia mikrh, speydw na pw, merida toy Typoy.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Dexeste kritikh apo boyleytes toy kommatos sas...

ANTWNAROS: Egw proswpika;

SPYRAKH: Nai, eseis. Poy leei oti kaqysterhse h kybernhsh na antidrasei, dia toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, gia to qema ths koyrashs poy diakatexei h den diakatexei ton Prwqypoyrgo. Kai qelw na moy apanthsete epi ths oysias kai oxi me th gnwsth frash oti den sxoliazete dhlwseis boyleytwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy kamia tetoia dhlwsh.

SPYRAKH: Miso lepto na sas diabasw mia. O k. Xarakopoylos dhlwse sto radiofwno ths NET, oti htan ena epikoinwniako Baterlo gia th Nea Dhmokratia h ebdomada poy perase kai oti htan xliarh h diaceysh twn senariwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw kanena sxolio. Bebaiws, o kaqenas exei dikaiwma na exei tis proswpikes toy apoceis apo th qesh poy exei.

XIWTHS: Epimenw kai egw, giati ektos apo tis epishmes dhlwseis, opws katalabainete, ginomaste apodektes kata kairoys diaforwn epishmansewn apo koryfaia stelexh kai ths Neas Dhmokratias, alla kai ths kybernhshs. Oi epikriseis poy apodidoyn se esas proswpika, alla kai genikotera sto epikoinwniako epiteleio toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai oti to teleytaio diasthma epideiknyete arga anaklastika. Qewreite oti exei bash tetoioy eidoys kritikh h aplws ta stelexh ayta ekfrazoyn yperbolika aytes tis apoceis;

ANTWNAROS: Se mena den exoyn fqasei tetoia pragmata.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eiste o teleytaios poy qa fqasei. Kai o prokatoxos sas teleytaios to antilhfqhke oti yphrxan tetoia pragmata...

ANTWNAROS: Mhn anhsyxeite, fqanoyn polla pragmata se mena. Alla, ayta den exoyn fqasei.

DHMADHS: Egw hqela na rwthsw, an o epikoinwniakos mhxanismos ths kybernhshs leitoyrgei tis Kyriakes, dioti eidame h diaceysh na erxetai ena 24wro meta th dhmosieysh ths sygkekrimenhs efhmeridas kai toy sygkekrimenoy fylloy. Den eprepe na bgalete mia diaceysh, an htan toso kaqeth, thn idia hmera poy diabasate thn efhmerida kai tis feromenes ws dhlwseis... ;

ANTWNAROS: Epistrefete se ena qema, to opoio exw ejantlhsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Symmerizeste, kyrie Ekproswpe, thn apoch pollwn stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, oti to anoigma ths calidas poy parathrhqhke stis xqesines dhmoskophseis, ofeiletai sthn kaqysterhsh, me thn opoia antedrase o Prwqypoyrgos sta peri kopwsews;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei se ayto to qema. Den exw na pw kati allo. Epanerxeste se ena qema, to opoio, opws eipa molis se erwthsh synadelfoy sas, einai anyparkto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epanerxontai oi boyleytes, kyrie Ekproswpe. Egw den qa eixa kanena endiaferon na epanelqw.

ANTWNAROS: To qema gia mas exei ejantlhqei. Synthreite ena qema to opoio einai anyparkto kai to opoio den exei kamia bash. To epanalambanw apo thn prwth hmera. Den blepw na grafetai poyqena ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Malista. Epishs, den exei kamia bash to oti yparxei anoigma calidas;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa me odhghsete, eite amesws eite emmesws eite dia diaforwn allwn odwn, na sxoliasw dhmoskophseis. Den to kanw pote. Einai katagrafh mias dedomenhs stigmhs, ena xrhsimo ergaleio. Tipote parapanw.

SWTHRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den qelete na sxoliasete oyte to gegonos oti basei xqesinhs dhmoskophshs fainetai oti to profil toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei ypostei ena sobaro plhgma; Einai molis miamish monada h diafora me ton k. Papandreoy. Oyte ayto qelete na sxoliasete;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw eyrhmata dhmoskophsewn.

XIWTHS: Gia ena allo qema. Prosfata yphrje mia dikastikh apofash poy apallassei apo prostima th Vodafone, gi` ayth th foberh ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, apo th stigmh poy h kybernhsh, apo th stigmh poy etsi kai alliws den exoyme kataferei na maqoyme toys enoxoys gi` ayth thn ypoqesh, alla yphrxan antikeimenikes dyskolies sto na perifroyrhsei h sygkekrimenh etaireia to aporrhto twn epikoinwniwn, h kybernhsh pws antimetwpizei ayto to qema, mias allhs akomh ypoqeshs, h opoia parapemfqhke sth Dikaiosynh, opws parapempete pagiws oles tis megales ypoqeseis poy bgainoyn sth dhmosiothta kai sto telos fainetai oti aytoi poy eixan oysiastikes eyqynes, qa parameinoyn atimwrhtoi.

ANTWNAROS: Monos sas to eipate. Sto kratos dikaioy, oi parabatikes symperifores parapempontai, fqanoyn asfalws sth Dikaiosynh. Kai h Dikaiosynh krinei. Egw den qa krinw apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs, opws den to exw kanei pote. Alla, h ypoqesh, opws gnwrizete, einai pio synqeth apo ton tropo me ton opoio thn perigracate kai thn paroysiasate.

XIWTHS: Moy epitrepete; Epeidh, akribws, einai pio synqeth apo o,ti sas thn periegraca...

ANTWNAROS: Ennow oti kai h apofash toy dikasthrioy einai pio synqeth.

XIWTHS: Exw kai mia dyskolia na thn perigracw, opws akribws thn antilambanomai. Sas erwtw, ean h kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo thn ejelijh ayths ths ypoqeshs mexri shmera.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai, me kanena tropo, na sxoliasw dikastikh apofash.

KAKALHS: Na perimenoyme nea desmh forologikwn metrwn, kaqws to elleimma gia to 2008 kleinei sto 4,2% toy AEP kai oxi sto 3,7%, opws proeblepe to Programma Staqerothtas poy exei ypobalei h kybernhsh sthn Komision;

ANTWNAROS: Kai an me rwtate kaqe hmera gia nees desmes, gia metra kai prwtoboylies, den qa sas pw tipota, ean den exw kati na sas anakoinwsw.

KAKALHS: To qema prokyptei apo to gegonos oti yparxei mia anantistoixia, mia diafora mallon 0,5% toy AEP, oson afora ta stoixeia, to Programma Staqerothtas gia to elleimma, poy exei hdh katateqei, proeblepe 3,7% oti qa aggijei to 2008. Alla, omws, twra ta stoixeia poy qa steilete, symfwna me shmerino dhmosieyma ths ``Naytemporikhs'', ayth thn ebdomada stis Bryjelles, problepei 4,2%. Ara, 0,5% shmainei 1,3 dis.

ANTWNAROS: Oi apokliseis aytes yparxoyn se oles tis xwres ths eyrwzwnhs. Se orismenes, de, einai poly megalyteres.

KAKALHS: Poios qa plhrwsei einai to qema.

ANTWNAROS: Den allazei kati se ayto poy sas lew. Giati, akribws, h dieqnhs oikonomikh krish einai synexws ejelissomenh.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla me bash thn prohgoymenh ektimhsh 3,7% kai oi dhmosioi ypallhloi klhqhkan na pagwsoyn toys misqoys kai nea xaratsia kai diafora alla eginan. Twra poy xreiazetai na parete metra gia 1,3 dis epipleon, ti qa kanete;

ANTWNAROS: Emplekete diafora qemata, poy to ena den exei kamia sxesh me to allo.

Prwton: Sto anaprosarmosmeno, tropopoihmeno Symfwno Staqerothtas perilambanotan mia ektimhsh, dioti den yphrxan ta oristika stoixeia, xwris ayto na shmainei oti epibebaiwnw ton ariqmo ton opoio eseis moy anaferate.

Deyteron: Oi prwtoboylies tis opoies elabe h kybernhsh den perigrafontai me toso apla logia, opws eseis tis paroysiasate. Sas ypenqymizw oti stoys xamhlomisqoys kai toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys toy Dhmosioy doqhkan ayjhseis poy posostiaia se kamia periptwsh den qa epairnan ean dinontan ayjhseis me eniaio pososto. Kai eklhqhsan na katabaloyn mia eidikh efapaj eisfora ekeinoi oi forologoymenoi oi opoioi exoyn ta megalytera eisodhmata. Ayta pros apokatastash kai pros enisxysh ths koinwnikhs Dikaiosynhs.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ligo nwritera mas eipate oti den sxoliazete ta gkalop, alla milhsate, legontas oti osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos apeyqynontai se aytoys poy exoyn agxos gia thn ejoysia. Aytoi poy exoyn agxos, sas koitoyn apo 5,1 monades chlotera, omws.

ANTWNAROS: Den katalabainw ti qelete na peite.

SMYRNHS: Oti toys dinei ena pleonekthma kai epikoinwniako kai politiko na kanoyn kapoies kinhseis, blepontas oti h kybernhsh einai sto gwnia.

ANTWNAROS: Pali den antilambanomai ti lete. Dioti, opws gnwrizete, den exoyme ekloges ayrio. Ekloges den ginontai thn epomenh ths diejagwghs mias metrhshs ths koinhs gnwmhs, alla se hmeromhnies kai me diadikasies poy problepei to Syntagma.

Kai qa sas ypenqymisw oti kai sto parelqon kybernhseis ypoleipontan se metrhseis poy eginan kai omws kerdisan tis ekloges. Den einai h prwth fora poy symbainei ayto. Se kamia periptwsh den einai oristikh h metrhsh ths koinhs gnwmhs se ena sygkekrimeno xroniko shmeio.

SANTAMOYRHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean den kanw laqos se ligotero apo 70 hmeres exoyme toylaxiston mia eklogikh anametrhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws den kanete laqos.

SANTAMOYRHS: Eyxaristw poy eiste antikeimenikos. Exoyme mia toylaxiston eklogikh anametrhsh. Ti qa mporoyse na allajei kaqoristika ayto poy emfanizete ws diafora protimhshs twn politwn yper toy PASOK, tetoio wste na apotrecei ejelijeis tis opoies synepagetai mia htta, kata kanona; Ayto einai to ena erwthma moy.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme mia prosfygh stis kalpes gia ena sygkekrimeno antikeimeno poy einai oi eyrwekloges. Oi Ellhnes polites kaloyntai na epilejoyn gia thn epomenh pentaetia toys 22 boyleytes poy qa toys ekproswphsoyn sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio. Ayto einai to antikeimeno ths prosfyghs stis kalpes.

SANTAMOYRHS: Ean moy epitrepete dieykrinistika: Ti qa mporoyse sthn politikh ths kybernhshs na odhghsei sth meiwsh aytoy poy shmera emfanizetai ws ``anoikth calida''.

ANTWNAROS: Egw qa perimena, prwta apo ola, thn proseleysh twn Ellhnwn politwn stis kalpes kai thn chfo toys. Den prodikazw pote thn chfo twn Ellhnwn politwn.

SANTAMOYRHS: Kai mia deyterh erwthsh. Xqes, taytoxrona me th dhmoskophsh h opoia edeije mia shmantikh diafora yper toy PASOK, yphrxe kai mia allh poy edeixne oti sth bash ths Neas Dhmokratias h syntriptikh pleionothta twn yposthriktwn ths Neas Dhmokratias qelei Karamanlh akomh kai meta apo mia htta. Kata thn apoch sas, ayto einai kati to opoio apotima mia katastash h kati poy diamorfwnei ek prooimioy mia allh;

ANTWNAROS: Ti sas exw pei; Oi dhmoskophseis apotypwnoyn th stash ths koinhs gnwmhs se ena sygkekrimeno xroniko shmeio.

KAKALHS: Epibebaiwnete tis plhrofories oti h kybernhsh protiqetai na proxwrhsei se meiwsh toy telos tajinomhshs gia enisxysh twn eisagwgewn aytokinhtwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati ep' aytoy. Sas eipa oti den yparxei kanena epipleon metro, kamia epipleon prwtoboylia poy exei apofasisei h kybernhsh.

DHMADHS: Thn prosexh Pempth, opws eimai bebaios oti gnwrizete, h GSEE kai h ADEDY diorganwnoyn ena megalo syllalhthrio kai mia megalh, antidrastikh, as to poyme etsi, prwtoboylia se ayto to ergasiako topio poy diamorfwnetai. Egw hqela na rwthsw, pws blepete eseis th stash twn syndikatwn. Ean ta syndikata prospaqoyn na pyrodothsoyn ayth thn koinwnikh eirhnh thn opoia eseis prospaqoysate na petyxete mesw ths synaineshs.

ANTWNAROS: Qelw na pisteyw - -kai giati na mhn to pisteyw, allwste- - oti ta syndikata qa kinhqoyn mesa sto plaisio toy qesmikoy toys roloy. Ta syndikata einai qesmoi ths Dhmokratias kai ths koinwnias.

DHMADHS: Otan lete ayto, ti ennoeite akribws;

ANTWNAROS: Oti qa kinhqoyn mesa sto plaisio toy roloy toys.

DHMADHS: Kataggelloyn thn kybernhsh pantws.

ANTWNAROS: Exw katadikasei egw pote tetoioy eidoys prwtoboylies; Pote. Alla, bebaiws, prepei na ginontai sebasta ta dikaiwmata twn pollwn.

DHMADHS: Profanws, den mporeite kai den exete katadikasei tetoioy eidoys prwtoboylies twn ergazomenwn, alla egw hqela na rwthsw, ean dexeste aytes tis kataggelies poy ektojeyoyn ta syndikata pros thn kybernhsh oti epixeirei na allajei to ergasiako topio.

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai oxi.

KAKARNIAS: Sth shmerinh synanthsh toy k. Paylopoyloy me ton Prwqypoyrgo syzhthqhke to endexomeno kapoias allaghs sto sxedio nomoy gia thn chfo twn Ellhnwn toy ejwterikoy; Kai anaferomai, kyriws, sthn epistolikh chfo, kati poy eixe afhsei anoixto o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn sth Boylh, sth synedriash twn synarmodiwn Epitropwn.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Paylopoylos, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, anaferqhke sta qemata poy syzhthse me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Den exw perissoteres leptomereies. Emeis exoyme kanei mia sygkekrimenh protash, prokeimenoy oi Ellhnes polites poy zoyn ektos twn oriwn ths ellhnikhs Epikrateias, na exoyn th dynatothta na chfizoyn kaqe fora stis ekloges, ston topo ths diamonhs toys.

Pisteyoyme oti o tropos diejagwghs ayths ths chfoforias, opws ton exoyme ypobalei pros egkrish sth Boylh, einai o katallhloteros kai o pio dieykolyntikos gia toys Ellhnes ths Omogeneias. Kai exoyme pei, allwste, oti ayth qa einai mia metabatikh lysh. Na efarmostei, na doyme sthn prajh poia einai ta proterhmata ths, poia endexomenws elattwmata kai poies ateleies mporei na paroysiasei, kai meta apo ekei na syzhthsoyme gia endexomenh metatroph ths, beltiwsh ths.

Ekeino to opoio exei shmasia - -to exw pei kai allh fora- - einai na breqei mia lysh, opws allwste problepetai kai apo to Syntagma, apo thn prohgoymenh, oxi thn teleytaia, metarryqmish, poy qa dinei stoys Ellhnes ths Omogeneias to dikaiwma na chfizoyn ekei poy pragmatika zoyn kai exoyn to epikentro ths proswpikhs kai epaggelmatikhs toys drasthriothtas.

Kai nomizw oti den mporei na yparxei kanena prosxhma, kamia dikaiologia gia kapoioys na mhn chfisoyn ayth th lysh me ta xarakthristika poy molis sas edwsa.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sth Xilh meteferan oi synadelfoi ston k. Papandreoy kapoio kommati apo thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Zakynqo kai o k. Papandreoy, afoy eipe sthn arxh oti ``qa synexisw na paleyw'', toy eipan dhmosiografoi-synadelfoi oti to idio akribws eipe kai apo th Zakynqo kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Kai o k. Papandreoy apanthse pws kai oi dyo agwna kanoyme. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto poy eipe o Proedros toy PASOK; Blepete kati pisw apo ayth thn apanthsh toy; Pws thn ektimate;

ANTWNAROS: Moy einai poly dyskolo na apokwdikopoiw ayta poy leei kata kairoys o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

DHMADHS: Wstoso tis prwtoboylies, gia paradeigma, kai tis dieqneis synanthseis poy ekane me ton Antiproedro ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs, pws to sxoliazete eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws einai xrhsimh kaqe epafh Ellhnwn politikwn me politika proswpa allwn xwrwn.

DHMADHS: Apla sthn prokeimenh periptwsh o k. Papandreoy zhthse apo ton k. Bioleu na entajei o k. Ompama sto programma toy to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio, kati to opoio eidame h kyria Mpakogiannh na mhn anaferetai se kati tetoio.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa hqela na anaferqw ston tropo, ton poly apotelesmatiko tropo me ton opoio kineitai h ellhnikh diplwmatia. Gnwrizete oti polla pragmata sth diplwmatia ginontai me diakritikes kinhseis kai xwris megales tympanokroysies. Synhqws ayta ta qemata einai pio apotelesmatika otan ginontai me ton tropo poy sas anefera.

DHMADHS: Mhpws o k. Papandreoy erxetai na kalycei kapoia kena ths ejwterikhs politikhs, ta opoia eseis blepete, den blepete, den jerw.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den blepw kanena keno askhshs ths ejwterikhs politikhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pws krinete oti h kybernhsh ean krinei to oti o Amerikanos Proedros Ompama apekleise kaqe synanthsh me ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh kata to epikeimeno tajidi toy sthn Toyrkia;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipate oti den exete na kanete kanena sxolio. Kai ayto to rwtw enocei twn fhmologiwn poy planwntai sthn politikh atmosfaira oti mporei na yparjei kapoia synanthsh toy Ellhna prwqypoyrgoy k. Karamanlh me ton Amerikano Proedro sto periqwrio ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete den topoqetoymai epi fhmologiwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei periptwsh na to qesei ayto to qema gia th synanthsh me ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh o k. Karamanlhs;

ANTWNAROS: Einai gnwsth h qesh mas gia to Patriarxeio.

PALAIOLOGOS: H dikh sas. Twn Amerikanwn den jeroyme poia einai.

ANTWNAROS: Einai gnwsth h dikh mas qesh, ths Elladas, ths kybernhshs kai toy ellhnikoy politikoy kosmoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa to qesei; Ayto einai poy qelw na rwthsw, ean yparjei synanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den apantw se fhmologies. Kai den qa to kanw oyte ayth th fora.

XIWTHS: Diabasa mia synenteyjh thn Kyriakh toy boyleyth Lesboy toy k. Gianellh sthn opoia epanalambanei thn proqesh toy na mhn yperchfisei nomosxedia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs apo th stigmh poy den exei epilyqei akoma to zhthma toy Efeteioy Lesboy. Hqela na sas rwthsw an ayth h symperifora me dedomeno oti exoyme diatajeis pleon toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs poy ekkremoyn kai qa teqoyn pros chfish syntoma apo th Boylh, an ayth h symperifora toy k. Gianellh thn qewrei h kybernhsh antikommatikh h en pash periptwsei kroysma apeiqarxias apo enan boyleyth poy sthrizei thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei sto idio qema pro dimhnoy. Isxyei h apanthsh poy exw dwsei.

SPYRAKH: Kamia epikoinwnia me ton k. Paylidh eixate; Mias kai leme gia boyleytes.

ANTWNAROS: Pros ti;

SPYRAKH: Jerete yparxei ejelijh se mia dikastikh ekkremothta poy afora kai ton k. Paylidh. Emplekei to onoma toy.

ANTWNAROS: Qymaste pws eftase h ypoqesh sth Dikaiosynh. Me prwtoboylia toy k. Paylidh.

SPYRAKH: Ws ek toytoy qewreite ek toy perissoy na ginei mia epafh me ton k. Paylidh prokeimenoy na sas dwsei dieykriniseis gia thn poreia toy qematos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati ep'aytoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mhpws prodiagrafete - -epeidh eipate me prwtoboylia toy k. Paylidh eftase h ypoqesh sth Dikaiosynh- - kai to oti me prwtoboylia dikh toy qa apoxwrhsei apo boyleyths;

ANTWNAROS: Menw gia merika deyterolepta amilhtos, dioti h syndesh aytwn twn dyo qematwn me afhnei profanws anaydo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, kaqoloy. H erwthsh moy einai safestath. Profanws den kanete ta logika almata poy mporw na kanw egw. To erwthma moy einai oti efoson ftasate sthn Proanakritikh to qema ekei qa yparjei... Dhladh to qema yparxei. To endexomeno na ftasei sthn Proanakritikh, apo ekei kai pera o k. Paylidhs qa epilejei h na meinei boyleyths h na apoxwrhsei. To erwthma poy sas eqesa einai an me dikh toy prwtoboylia qa fygei;

ANTWNAROS: Kai pali den mporw na sas parakoloyqhsw. Gia ena poly aplo logo. Dioti exete qesei tessera h pente ``ean''. An nomizete oti h apostolh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy einai na sas parakoloyqei se diafora ypoqetika zhthmata poy syndeete eseis metajy toys, nomizw oti sfallete.

SMYRNHS: Na kanw mia pio proswpikh erwthsh. Skefteste na allajete aytokinhto; To lew ayto giati yparxei kapoio dhmosieyma oti ta aytokinhta toy Dhmosioy qa doqoyn gia ekpoihsh kai qa agorastoyn kainoyrgia me leasing, se mia prospaqeia na mazeytoyn ligaki ta oikonomika poy dapanwntai gi 'aytes tis aities. Exete kapoio sxolio ep' aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den exw kamia tetoia proqesh Kai epeidh moy kanate proswpikh erwthsh, opws gnwrizete einai toso palia ayta ta aytokinhta poy synhqws h antikatastash toys ginetai ypoxrewtika kaqe toso, giati synhqws menoyn sto dromo.

MANH: Ara qa ta allajete;

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tetoio pragma egw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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