Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-03-26

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 26 Martioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 193303210

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 26 Martioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhspera.

Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, sthn opoia syzhthqhkan qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Toyristikhs Anaptyjhs.

Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths synedriashs o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Kwstas Markopoylos ekane dhlwseis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe eipwqhke kati sxetika me thn koyrash toy Prwqypoyrgoy h an yparxei endexomeno prowrhs syntajiodothshs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw, ayta ta qemata ta exoyme ejantlhsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poio einai to epishmo sxolio ths kybernhshs gia to prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``AYRIANH'', se sxesh me tis kataggelies gia plastografhsh eggrafwn kai apath apo Ellhna epixeirhmatia kai bebaiws ta osa an exoyn diameifqei kai ti exei diameifqei gyrw apo ayth thn istoria;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw sxolia gia dhmosieymata. Opws gnwrizete, den kanw pote. Eimai bebaios oti opoios exei na kanei kapoies basimes kataggelies, tis kanei ekei opoy prepei na ginoyn, dhladh, sthn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Allo sas rwthsa egw. Egw sas rwthsa an to prwtoselido dhmosieyma isxyei.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipate oti den sxoliazete dhmosieymata. Egw sas rwthsa...

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den sxoliazw dhmosieymata. Kai deyteron, sas lew oti ean kapoios exei na kanei kataggelies, tis kanei basei twn oswn isxyoyn sth xwra mas - -kai se oles tis xwres, opoy isxyei kratos dikaioy- - ekei poy prepei na tis kanei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, h kybernhsh exei gnwsh toy peristatikoy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo gi` ayto to qema.

SANTAMOYRHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei oti prokeitai na allajoyn oi pragmatikes parametroi sth diaxeirish toy enaerioy xwroy apo toys kanonismoys poy yioqethse to Eyrwkoinoboylio;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn h sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, efoson anaferetai se qemata poy sxetizontai me armodiothtes toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sxetika me thn apofash toy Eyrwdikasthrioy gia thn ejiswsh twn oriwn syntajiodothshs gynaikwn-andrwn, yparxoyn kapoies leptomereies gia to an logoy xarh ejairoyntai oi manes. Qa yparjei kapoia ryqmish, pote qa efarmostei;

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw oti einai ypo dhmosieysh h sxetikh apofash kai gnwrizw kai ena deltio Typoy toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy poy yparxei sxetika. Qa hqela omws na sas pw, oti prokeimenoy na topoqethqei h kybernhsh, einai fysiko oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi na melethsoyn se baqos to plhres keimeno ths apofashs toy Dikasthrioy.

Qa hqela, epishs, na dieykrinisw oti to qema, bebaiws, epeidh exei ginei poly syzhthsh dhmosia teleytaia, anaferetai sto qema ths syntajiodothshs andrwn kai gynaikwn poy apasxoloyntai sto dhmosio tomea. Den afora, se kamia periptwsh - -kai ayto einai safes- - ap` o,ti moy exoyn pei kai oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi, ta atoma poy apasxoloyntai ston idiwtiko tomea.

Gnwrizete, oti h ellhnikh Politeia, h Ellada, eixe parei sygkekrimenh qesh kai eixe probalei sygkekrimena epixeirhmata kata th diarkeia ths ekdikashs ths ypoqeshs sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. S` ayto to qema eixa anaferqei kai prin apo liges hmeres. Qa topoqethqoyn oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi, molis doyn to plhres keimeno ths apofashs.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Egxwria dhmosieymata den sxoliazete, wstoso mhpws mporeite na kanete ena sxolio gia dhmosieymata shmerina toy bretanikoy Typoy poy lene oti h ellhnikh oikonomia einai metajy twn pio adynamwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai oti oi asqenesteres oikonomies ths Eyrwphs den eprepe na exoyn entaxqei sthn eyrwzwnh kai akoma oti to problhma me thn ellhnikh kybernhsh einai oti den paradexetai oti yparxei krish;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, einai apo tis prwtes kybernhseis ston eyrwpaiko xwro, h opoia paradexqhke - -kai malista se peisma orismenwn allwn edw, ston topo mas- - oti yparxei krish. Yparxei dieqnhs oikonomikh krish, h opoia fysika exei synepeies, exei apotelesmata, exei epiptwseis kai sth dikh mas th xwra. Kai h dikh mas h kybernhsh egkairws, poly prin alloi dianohqoyn na cellisoyn kati, sygkrothse plhres sxedio, prokeimenoy na periorisoyme tis epiptwseis ths krishs kai h xwra mas na einai pio dynath, otan teleiwsei, giati qa teleiwsei kapoia stigmh, ayth th krish.

Oson afora ta dhmosieymata sta opoia anafereste, den exw plhrh gnwsh. Gnwrizw oti yparxoyn - -kai den sas to krybw- - shmera, nomizw ston agglofwno Typo, ena h dyo dhmosieymata. Apo osa exw dei, epifylassomenos na diabasw oloklhra ta dhmosieymata, qa hqela na pw oti einai mia poly monopleyrh tash me thn opoia proseggizetai h oikonomia diaforwn xwrwn, oxi mono ths Elladas.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Kai pros ti h spoydh ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto, den mporw na to krinw. Gi` ayto, qa prepei na apeyqynqeite se aytoys poy syntassoyn ta dhmosieymata. Gnwrizw, omws, epishs poly kala kai gnwrizete kai eseis - -giati ginontai diafores anafores, an exw enhmerwqei kala- - oti h ellhnikh oikonomia den antimetwpizei kapoia apo ta dhqen yperbolika problhmata gia ta opoia ginetai anafora se ayta ta dhmosieymata. Qa hqela, de, na sas parakalesw na ta proseggizete kai eseis me idiaiterh periskech.

SANTAMOYRHS: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos kai o k. Papandreoy symporeyqhkan gia liga metra. Fantazomai h eikona ebgaze oti einai mia endeijh abrofrosynhs twn dyo andrwn. Wstoso, grafthkan arketa pragmata kai malista kai apo ta dyo politika stratopeda yphrjan entones antidraseis.

ANTWNAROS: Ti ennoeite;

SANTAMOYRHS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den yparxei. Ti sxolio na exw; Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos paresth, xqes, sth dojologia poy egine, me thn eykairia ths eqnikhs mas epeteioy, sto Nao toy Agioy Dionysioy. Argotera paresth kai sthn kataqesh toy stefanoy, sto mnhmeio toy Agnwstoy Stratiwtoy. Kai amesws meta, sthn kaqierwmenh stratiwtikh parelash. Stis idies ekdhlwseis htan parwn kai o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

Den exw na pw kati parapanw. Jerete, epeidh akribws hmoyn parwn, qa elega oti se aytes tis liges koybentes abrofrosynhs, oi opoies einai fysiko na antallassontai metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, dhladh dyo politeiakwn paragontwn, eidika se tetoies hmeres, apodidetai megalyterh shmasia apo ayth poy pragmatika exoyn. Einai fysiko na antallassontai xairetismoi kai logia abrofrosynhs.

TSIOYFOS: Mexri ton Oktwbrio, opote qa epanakriqei ek neoy h poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, skopeyei h kybernhsh na labei kapoia prosqeta metra, wste ftanontas ston Oktwbrh na eimaste se mia kalyterh sxesh, se sxesh panta me ayta poy zhtane oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas;

ANTWNAROS: Qa meinw sth dhlwsh, thn opoia ekane, hdh apo proxqes, o armodios Ypoyrgos o k. Giannhs Papaqanasioy. H dhlwsh ayth einai periektikh. Ta leei ola. Na episthsw thn prosoxh sas, kyriws sto shmeio opoy o k. Papaqanasioy tonizei oti oi epishmanseis ths Epitrophs exoyn hdh entaxqei ston sxediasmo ths kybernhshs. Exoyn ejaggelqei kai exoyn arxisei hdh na ylopoioyntai.

Kai prosqetei o k. Papaqanasioy: ``Oi systaseis ths Epitrophs deixnoyn akribws oti to sxedio ths kybernhshs einai o monos realistikos kai efarmosimos tropos gia na diasfalistei h ejodos ths xwras apo thn krish me asfaleia kai sigoyria''.

Qa hqela na sas parakinhsw, gia mia akomh fora, na diabasete th synolikh dhlwsh toy k. Papaqanasioy, dioti akribws en anamonh ths proxqesinhs protashs ths Epitrophs, eixan anaferqei kai pragmata, ta opoia den eixan kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

H ellhnikh kybernhsh - -to exoyme pei kai alles fores- - h shmerinh kybernhsh, analambanei ekeines tis prwtoboylies, tis opoies exei analabei kai tis kanei prajh kai tis efarmozei, giati akribws ayto prepei na ginei gia to kalo ths xwras. Einai dikh mas diapistwsh ti prepei na ginei, poia metra prepei na lhfqoyn kai ayta ta metra, akribws, ta pairnoyme kai ta efarmozoyme kaqws ejelissetai h krish, h opoia - -to lew gia mia akomh fora- - allazei diarkws. Exei oloena kai kainoyrgies parametroys. Shmasia exei, loipon, na eisai panw apo thn krish, na thn parakoloyqeis kai na kaneis o,ti einai aparaithto. Kai ayto ginetai.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oson afora thn apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy, h politikh boylhsh ths kybernhshs einai na thn efarmosei h qa mporesei me kapoio tropo na thn kaqysterhsei;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei mia sygkekrimenh diadikasia, h opoia apo o,ti gnwrizw, akoloyqeitai se aytes tis periptwseis. Epeidh den eimai eidikos, den epiqymw na ypeiselqw stis leptomereies ths diadikasias. Shmasia exei me poion tropo qa lhfqoyn ypoch osa diapistwnei h desmeytikh, opws gnwrizete, apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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