Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-03-18

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 18 Martioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 191862395

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 18 Martioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhspera.

" Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs Oikonomikhs Politikhs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Syzhthqhke h eisodhmatikh politikh ths kybernhshs gia to dhmosio tomea. Anakoinwseis qa kanei, entos oligoy, o armodios Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giannhs Papaqanasioy.

" O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs synanthqhke shmera stis 12.00, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton brabeymeno me Nompel Oikonomias kaqhghth Pwl Kroygkman. Sth synanthsh ayth meteixe kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Papaqanasioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, an kai mas eipate oti se ligh wra qa kanei dhlwseis o k. Papaqanasioy, mhpws mporeite na mas proideasete ligo ti akribws ennooyse o k. Soyflias, otan ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy eipe oti ``h kybernhsh exei labei dysarestes, alla anagkaies apofaseis'';

ANTWNAROS: Se ola ayta ta qemata qa anaferqei analytika o k. Papaqanasioy. Einai eidikes oi peristaseis tis opoies zoyme. Exw anaferqei syxna sth dieqnh oikonomikh krish kai tis epiptwseis ths sthn Ellada kai einai fysiko, oi apofaseis oi opoies pairnontai me aisqhma eyqynhs, me th skech mas sthn koinwnikh dikaiosynh, na lambanoyn bebaiws ypoch toys kai oles aytes tis parametroys ths oikonomikhs krishs. Gia ola ta alla qemata ston k. Papaqanasioy.

SANTAMOYRHS: Xqes kai shmera o k. Karamanlhs eixe synanthseis me ton trapezith Nte Rotsilnt kai me ton dieqnh kai nompelista oikonomologo Kroygkman. Se poia sxolh apo tis dyo brisketai pio konta o k. Karamanlhs, enocei kai ths Synodoy Koryfhs;

ANTWNAROS: Oi dyo synanthseis aytes, tis opoies eixe o Prwqypoyrgos, entassontai sto plaisio kai allwn synanthsewn me dieqneis proswpikothtes kai politikoys oi opoioi episkeptontai th xwra. Den qa prepei kapoios na syndeei aytes tis synanthseis me to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, poy synerxetai ayrio kai meqayrio stis Bryjelles kai sto opoio - -opws sas eipa hdh kai apo xqes- - qa metasxei o Prwqypoyrgos. Den einai qema ``sxolwn''.

Ekeino to opoio einai shmantiko einai oti: Anqrwpoi oi opoioi exoyn megalh empeiria se oikonomika qemata, synomiloyn me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys. Kanoyn thn analysh ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs kai employtizoyn etsi - -opws einai fysiko- - thn hdh ploysia dieqnh kai oikonomikh empeiria toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph ekfrasthke enas ploysios problhmatismos, apo toys metexontes Ypoyrgoys, oxi toso gia to an qa prepei na yparjoyn aysthroteres poines, oso gia thn paqhtikh stash poy krataei h Astynomia kai me aformh malista ta teleytaia symbanta, me ta ektropa ths Paraskeyhs. Symmerizetai h kybernhsh, ws ena baqmo, oti pragmati h stash ths Astynomias einai paqhtikh, se orismenes periptwseis;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den metaferw pote syzhthseis oi opoies ginontai entos ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Kai asfalws den qa epibebaiwsw diafora dhmosieymata toy Typoy - -dioti profanws se ayta anafereste- - kai ta opoia den apeikonizoyn, den apotypwnoyn polles fores, opws kai th shmerinh, ayta ta opoia syzhtoyntai sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

Xqes, allwste, sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph syzhthqhkan sygkekrimenes diatajeis, oi opoies perilambanontai sto sxedio nomoy, to opoio, opws gnwrizete, anelyse me polles leptomereies o armodios Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Nikos Dendias se synenteyjh Typoy thn opoia parexwrhse stoys synadelfoys sas.

ROYMELIWTH: Mias kai milame gi` ayton, h antipoliteysh kai pio sygkekrimena h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh aporriptei shmera kai malista me ojytatoys xarakthrismoys kai dia stomatos toy Koinoboyleytikoy Ekproswpoy ths k. Benizeloy, tis diatajeis toy sxedioy nomoy gia to opoio kanate logo prohgoymenws. Oi xarakthrismoi htan kai barytatoi apo ton k. Benizelo: Zhthse to swfronismo toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn dyo Ypoyrgwn. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Qa ekane kala to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na egkateleipe thn politikh ths akinhsias kai ths arnhshs. Mia taktikh, h opoia fainetai pia na diapernaei oristika oles tis draseis toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na moy epitrecete, omws, na epanelqw sto qema ths dhmosias asfaleias. Pera apo to an sxoliazete h den sxoliazete tis dhlwseis, tis ektimhseis h tis apoceis twn Ypoyrgwn, h kybernhsh...

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto egw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den qelete na metaferete, eipate tis apoceis poy syzhtoyntai sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

ANTWNAROS: Kai den epibebaiwnw, bebaiws, ayta ta opoia dhmosieyontai ston Typo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den anaferqhka egw se dhmosieymata. Egw milhsa gia ton problhmatismo poy ekfrasthke sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Eseis anaferqhkate se dhmosieymata. Egw lew an h kybernhsh, ontws, apodexetai oti yparxei ena problhma dhmosias asfaleias, gia to opoio kati prepei na ginei pera apo tis aysthrothtes poines se koykoyloforoys.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei dia toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy. Sas parapempw stis dhlwseis toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poioy; Toy k. Dendia; Den einai o armodios Ypoyrgos. O k. Markogiannakhs den einai;

ANTWNAROS: Toy k. Markogiannakh. Exei topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai h epanafora toy idiwnymoy stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Deixnete na eiste kakws plhroforhmenos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wraia, poia einai h dikh sas h apanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: H apanthsh einai h topoqethsh toy k. Markogiannakh. O k. Markogiannakhs exei topoqethqei jekaqara. Sas parapempw se oles tis dhlwseis poy ekane tis teleytaies hmeres.

ROYMELIWTH: Hqela na epanaferw to erwthma poy sas ekana kai gia ta ypoloipa kommata ths antipoliteyshs, alla kai gia foreis, oi opoioi antidroyn sto sxedio nomoy poy aneptyje xqes o k. Dendias kai na rwthsw, an exete proqesh peraiterw dialogoy isws gia na epityxete mia megalyterh synainesh. Giati ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs exoyn dhlwsei arnhsh gia ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeinoi oi opoioi arnoyntai twra opoiesdhpote ryqmiseis, einai ekeinoi, oi opoioi epitimoyn, epikrinoyn thn kybernhsh kai tis diwktikes Arxes, dioti, dhqen, den kanoyn kati, otan xreiazetai na kanoyn kati. Apo thn allh, otan ginetai kati, epitimoyn thn kybernhsh kai tis diwktikes Arxes, epeidh analambanoyn kapoies prwtoboylies. Kapoies prwtoboylies poy einai asfalws pros thn swsth kateyqynsh.

Qa prepei loipon na apofasisoyn ti akribws qeloyn. Aytes oi antifaseis, oi synexeis aytoanaireseis - -to eidame allwste kai xqes se koryfaia stelexh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs- - den odhgoyn poyqena. Einai agones. Ejyphretoyn aplws kapoia mikra eswkommatika paixnidia kai oxi to symferon ths xwras.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws fanhke sthn kybernhsh h idea toy k. Alabanoy, poy esteile epistolh kai ston Prwqypoyrgo kai ston Proedro toy PASOK kai toys zhta, telos pantwn, na anasygkrothqei h EFEE, prokeimenoy to foithtiko kinhma apo mono toy na prostateysei to asylo entos twn panepisthmiwn.

ANTWNAROS: Molonoti den eimai ekproswpos toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, dioti opws gnwrizete oi drasthriothtes twn neolaiwn twn kommatwn en pollois einai tmhma ths drasthriothtas twn kommatwn, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias exei taxqei edw kai poly kairo - -teleytaia fora, malista, dia toy epikefalhs ths ONNED k. Giwrgoy Papanikolaoy- - yper ths epanadrasthriopoihshs ths EFEE.

Synepws, einai pagia kai gnwsth h qesh mas. Alloi einai ekeinoi oi opoioi den qeloyn na symprajoyn. Se aytoys, loipon, qa prepei na apeyqynqei opoiosdhpote endiaferetai pragmatika gia ayth thn koinh drash, thn koinh antimetwpish qesmwn, oi opoioi edw kai polla xronia den leitoyrgoyn. Oxi, pantws, me eyqynh toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias.

SANTAMOYRHS: Qa yparjoyn synedriaseis organwn ths kybernhshs jana, eidika gia to qema ths asfaleias to prosexes diasthma;

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparjei kati, to plhroforeiste pantote.

MELIGKWNHS: Pantws, k. Ekproswpe, mporeite na peite akomh oti einai eparkeis oi ryqmiseis poy yparxoyn peri to asylo sto nomo-plaisio ths k. Giannakoy.

ANTWNAROS: Apo xqes mexri shmera poy topoqethqhka gia to qema, den exei allajei kati.

MELIGKWNHS: Mporeite na mas peite kati gia ena dhmosieyma, shmera, sthn efhmerida ``TA NEA'' poy mila gia israhlines askhseis sto FIR Aqhnwn, xwris thn adeia ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai qema gia to opoio qa prepei na apeyqynqeite sta armodia Ypoyrgeia, prokeimenoy na exete thn plhroforhsh thn opoia qelete na exete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ta metra poy anakoinwse xqes o k. Dendias eparkoyn kata tis ektimhseis ths kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish ths egklhmatikothtas;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, lypamai poy to lew, den exete parakoloyqhsei tis dhlwseis toy k. Dendia. Oi dhlwseis toy k. Dendia anaferontai prwtistws sto swfronistiko systhma kai exoyn merikes anafores se dyo-tria alla qemata. Den einai dhlwseis poy aforoyn sthn egklhmatikothta.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pera apo tis ypodeijeis, k. Ekproswpe, poy moy kanete, tis opoies dexomai kalopista, qelw na pw, omws, oti sthn oysia afhnete anoikto to endexomeno lhchs kai newn prosqetwn metrwn astynomikoy xarakthra, apo osa eipate molis twra.

ANTWNAROS: Me rwtate gia kati sygkekrimeno. Sas apantw gia kati sygkekrimeno kai pate th syzhthsh sthn allh akrh toy planhth. Etsi, den mporw na sas parakoloyqhsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, egw rwtw esas, eseis moy kanete ypodeijeis kai egw sas lew oti sthn oysia afhnete anoikto to endexomeno lhchs newn metrwn. Kai ti moy apantate; Sthn oysia to afhnete anoikto.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tipota gia nea metra. Dioti, otan yparjoyn - -opws eipa, otan yparxoyn se oloys toys tomeis nea metra- - ayta ta plhroforeiste. Proanaggelia metrwn, egw den exw kanei pote kai oyte prokeitai na kanw. Kai den thn kanei oyte kai h kybernhsh.

SANTAMOYRHS: Me dedomenes tis dhlwseis toy k. Dendia shmera se para polla MME, eixame arnhtikh topoqethsh panepisthmiakwn, politikwn paragontwn, nomikwn k.o.k. Yparxei ena erwthma gia to an ayto to opoio perigrafetai stis dhlwseis toy k. Dendia einai to olon to opoio qa nomoqethsei h kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Einai poly safeis, ekteneis, leptomereiakes, oi dhlwseis toy k. Dendia. Den exw na prosqesw tipote apolytws. H dhmosia syzhthsh einai pantote kalodexoymenh, alla den qa prepei, opws sas eipa, me synexeis antifaseis na aytoakyrwnontai ekeinoi poy topoqetoyntai dhmosia.

Sas eyxaristw.

" Logw ths metabashs toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy k. Eyaggeloy Antwnaroy stis Bryjelles gia th Synodo Koryfhs toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, h epomenh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn kai twn antapokritwn jenoy Typoy qa pragmatopoihqei th Deytera, 23 Martioy.

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