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Tetarth, 4 Martioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 189336662

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 4 Martioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera.

Ayrio, Pempth 5 Martioy, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa exei seira synanthsewn me toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn, poy ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh.

" Me ton Proedro toy PASOK k. Giwrgo Papandreoy stis 11.00.

" Me th Genikh Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy Kommoynistikoy Kommatos Ellados k. Aleka Paparhga stis 12.30.

" Me ton Proedro toy LAOS k. Giwrgo Karatzaferh stis 14.00.

" Me ton Proedro ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy SYRIZA k. Aleko Alabano stis 17.00.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h apostrateysh olwn twn strathgwn ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias shmainei kai ton katalogismo eyqynwn se aytoys gia ta opoia deina, as to poyme, exoyn symbei ton teleytaio kairo ston xwro ths Astynomias;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia tis ethsies kriseis stoys kolpoys ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias.

XIWTHS: Ejakoloyqei na isxyei h desmeysh poy eixe analabei h kybernhsh oti taytoxrona me thn idiwtikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs, qa ejasfalistei na mh dhmioyrghqoyn kai synqhkes monopwlioy stis aerometafores;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei polles fores se ayto to qema. Den prokeitai na pw kati perissotero gia to qema ths Olympiakhs. Mia lepth diapragmateysh brisketai se ejelijh. As thn afhsoyme na ejelixqei.

XIWTHS: Den zhtw na moy sxoliasete th diapragmateysh. Otan h kybernhsh eixe ejaggeilei thn idiwtikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe tonisei oti anamesa stoys stoxoys einai na mhn dhmioyrghqoyn kai synqhkes monopwlioy. Epeidh shmera plhroforoymaste oti yparxoyn dyo akomh prosfores, ek twn opoiwn h mia einai apo etaireia poy drasthriopoieitai stis ellhnikes aerometafores, qa hqela na rwthsw, an ayth h desmeysh ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw: Den exw na pw kati gia to qema ths Olympiakhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se synexeia ths erwthshs toy synadelfoy, pws ajiologei tote h kybernhsh to gegonos oti paramones ths oloklhrwshs ths symfwnias gia thn Olympiakh, metajy ths kybernhshs kai ths MIG, ths idiwtikhs etaireias, pareneblhqhsan dyo etaireies kai ypebalan prosfores;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Me dedomeno oti oi politikoi arxhgoi proserxontai stis synanthseis stis opoies toys exei kalesei o Prwqypoyrgos, me dhmosiopoihmenes diaqeseis toylaxiston, qa mporoysame na maqoyme ti prosdoka h kybernhsh apo aytes tis synanthseis peran enos dialogoy, as poyme, qesmikoy;

ANTWNAROS: To ti prosdoka h kybernhsh, to eipe hdh o Prwqypoyrgos thn Kyriakh...

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, alla oloi oi alloi lene oti emeis den synainoyme.

ANTWNAROS: To ti prosdoka h kybernhsh, to eipe hdh o Prwqypoyrgos, me jekaqaro tropo, thn Kyriakh, sth dhmosia topoqethsh thn opoia ekane.

Qelw na elpizw oti osoi proserxontai sto dialogo - -kai den exw kanena logo na to amfisbhtw- - den proserxontai me prosxhmatikh proqesh. Qeloyn na metasxoyn sto dialogo kai gi` ayto allwste qa einai parontes stis kat` idian syzhthseis tis opoies qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn poy ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

Qa moy epitrecete, loipon, na mhn prokatalabw, me kanena tropo, oyte to periexomeno twn syzhthsewn, oyte thn ekbash aytwn twn syzhthsewn. Egw blepw oti oi arxhgoi twn kommatwn antapokriqhkan stis prosklhseis tis opoies aphyqyne o Prwqypoyrgos.

Qa einai ekei, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn me ton Prwqypoyrgo to shmantiko qema, to opoio apasxolei, oxi mono thn Ellada, alla kai ton kosmo oloklhro. Ayto kratw kai tipote allo.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Oi dhmosies topoqethseis den dynamitizoyn to dialogo prin arxisei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, shmasia exei oti o dialogos ginetai kai oti oi arxhgoi twn politikwn kommatwn poy eyriskontai sth Boylh me thn chfo twn Ellhnwn politwn, antapokrinontai se ayth thn prosklhsh. Den qelw na prokatalabw, me kanena tropo, to periexomeno twn ayrianwn syzhthsewn.

KAKALHS: Ekfrasate thn elpida oti den proserxontai me prosxhmatikh diaqesh h proqesh oi arxhgoi twn kommatwn...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena logo na to pisteyw.

KAKALHS: Nai, profanws. Alla, wstoso den einai prosxhmatiko apo th meria ths kybernhshs na zhtaei synainesh se mia politikh h opoia hdh exei apotyxei kai eyqynetai gia thn krish; Dhladh, zhtate na bgoyme apo thn krish me mia politikh h opoia exei dokimastei kai exei symbalei sthn krish;

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia, poly prin apo opoiadhpote politikh dynamh sthn Ellada, diegnwse thn yparjh ths krishs. Den wraiopoihse tipote, den ftiasidwse apolytws tipote, se kanena stadio ths krishs, h opoia brisketai akomh se ejelijh. Einai h idia ekeinh h kybernhsh poy egkaira, apo thn arxh, phre sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies.

Sas ypenqymizw, epeidh kapoioi lene oti den phre, dhqen, prwtoboylies mesa sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, oti h shmerinh kybernhsh toy Kwsta Karamanlh einai ekeinh poy proteine thn ayjhsh toy eggyhmenoy orioy gia tis trapezikes kataqeseis.

Prwtoboylies phrame, otan kaneis den miloyse gia thn krish sthn Ellada h kapoioi ekanan oti den yphrxe.

Prwtoboylies phrame kai eggyhqhkame kai nomika kai politika tis kataqeseis twn Ellhnwn.

Prwtoboylies phrame kai hmastan mia apo tis treis-tesseris prwtes xwres ths Eyrwphs, twn opoiwn egkriqhkan ta sxedia gia thn ejasfalish ths reystothtas sthn oikonomia.

Emeis koitame mprosta kai kanoyme o,ti einai aparaithto, se kaqe stadio ths krishs poy - -epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- - brisketai se ejelijh me aprobleptoys ryqmoys, prokeimenoy na dinontai lyseis. Etsi wste oi epiptwseis ths krishs gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia na einai oso to dynaton ligoteres.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei thn Kyriakh kai epanelabe kai shmera oti einai anagkh na synennohqoyme sta aytonohta. Ws aytonohto eixe anaferei thn Kyriakh, stis Bryjelles, ta oria antoxwn ths oikonomias, metajy allwn, h kai tis ypoxrewseis apenanti sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Ayta ta dyo aytonohta eixe anaferei. Oson afora ta oria antoxwn ths oikonomias, otan prokeitai na doqoyn xrhmata gia thn Paideia, thn Ygeia h na doqoyn gia toys syntajioyxoys, h kybernhsh diapistwnei oti den yparxoyn, oti ta oria ths oikonomias den ta antexoyn. Otan, omws, einai na doqoyn gia tis trapezes, otan einai na doqoyn gia ejoplistika programmata h na doqoyn foroapallages se epixeirhseis, aifnhs ta oria diogkwnontai. Pws na yparjei koinh anagnwsh kai synainesh panw se ayto;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh frontizei, wste afenos na ejasfalizetai h reystothta gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia, kati poy einai aparaithto kai gia th leitoyrgia twn noikok,.02^`ln�A�ocpqec�I��xcN27hah�h(c)5y5�9�B*CJ(OJQJ^JaJ(mH ph�sH )h(c)5y5�9�B*CJ(OJQJ^JaJ(ph�)hah�5�9�B*CJ(OJQJ^JaJ(ph�)hA75�9�B*CJ(OJQJ^JaJ(ph�/h(c)5yh(c)5y5�9�B*CJ(OJQJ^JaJ(ph�)h(c)5y5�9�B*CJ<OJQJ^J aJ<ph�/h(c)5yh(c)5y5�9�B*CJ<OJQJ^JaJ<ph�hh-hah�mH sH hA7hA7mH sH hA7mH sH h'zmH sH h'zh+

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Sas ypenqymizw to epidoma, ayto poy koinws legetai ``epidoma qermanshs'', to epidoma koinwnikhs synoxhs to opoio doqhke se poly megalo ariqmo dikaioyxwn politwn.

Sas ypenqymizw, epishs, to epidoma gia ta stegastika daneia, to opoio exei egkriqei.

Sas ypenqymizw polles draseis oi opoies exoyn analhfqei gia anqrwpoys oi opoioi xanoyn tis doyleies toys. Anefera eisagwgika dyo basikes draseis gia na ypogrammisw akribws to endiaferon, thn egrhgorsh poy diakrinei th symperifora ths kybernhshs se tomeis poy einai apofasistikoi, afenos men gia th leitoyrgia ths xwras, ths oikonomias kai ths koinwnias kai afeteroy gia th diathrhsh toy koinwnikoy istoy ths xwras.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den jerw, eipate, den qelete na prokatalabete to periexomeno twn ayrianwn synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys arxhgoys. Wstoso, h erwthsh moy einai, ean o k. Prwqypoyrgos ayrio qa anaferqei kai sthn anagkh lhchs epi poiwn pleon metrwn kai qa zhthsei th synainesh twn politikwn arxhgwn sta nea metra.

ANTWNAROS: Exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote, pws krinete tis apoceis poy diatypwse o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE k. Giwrgos Soyflias, o opoios einai kai melos ths Oikonomikhs Epitrophs ths kybernhshs, o opoios dhlwse xqes sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph thn anagkh na lhfqoyn monima metra gia thn oikonomia;

ANTWNAROS: Hsastan parwn;

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto den shmainei oti den kanoyme reportaz.

ANTWNAROS: Egw gnwrizw tis epishmes dhlwseis twn Ypoyrgwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla kai oi anepishmes omws exoyn th shmasia toys.

ANTWNAROS: Mporei eseis na anaparagete ws anepishmes, dhlwseis oi opoies den eginan kan.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den to exei diaceysei o k. Soyflias.

ANTWNAROS: Orismena Mesa mporei na grafoyn diafora pragmata. Sas diabebaiw oti ekeina ta opoia desmeyoyn thn kybernhsh einai oi epishmes dhlwseis.

KAKALHS: Mexri prosfata h kybernhsh eixe th qesh oti den yparxei qema Asfalistikoy, me dedomeno oti prin apo ena xrono peripoy exei chfistei o asfalistikos nomos kai den exei kan efarmostei.

ANTWNAROS: Antiqetws, efarmozetai...

KAKALHS: Nai, exei jekinhsei, alla den exei oloklhrwqei...

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei mia diadikasia kai sygkekrimena xronika periqwria, entos twn opoiwn efarmozetai.

KAKALHS: Symfwnoi. Ypo to fws twn newn ejelijewn kai ypo thn apeilh katarreyshs enos Tameioy, poy diabazoyme shmera, h kybernhsh epanejetazei ayth th stash ths, na anoijei synolika to Asfalistiko h kapoies pleyres toy;

ANTWNAROS: Qetete ena qema, to opoio kaneis apo thn kybernhsh den exei qesei.

KAKALHS: H zwh (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: To de sygkekrimeno Tameio, sto opoio anafereste, den exei kamia sxesh me th sygxwneysh twn asfalistikwn Tameiwn.

DHMADHS: Telika, qa mas pei kapoios apo thn kybernhsh, an eiste se qesh na mas to peite eseis, gia poio akribws qema, na synainesoyn se ti akribws kai me poio periexomeno oi politikoi arxhgoi, qa kalesei kai qa syzhthsei mazi toys o k. Karamanlhs;

ANTWNAROS: Parapempw sth dhmosia topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Exei topoqethqei jekaqara.

DHMADHS: Kai pws sxoliazete th mexri stigmhs stash, eidika apo to PASOK poy kateqese xqes mesw toy k. Papandreoy kai eidikh erwthsh sth Boylh pros ton Prwqypoyrgo; Miloyn gia synenoxh.

ANTWNAROS: Alloi einai aytoi poy prokatalambanoyn tis ayrianes syzhthseis. Oxi h kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poioys ennoeite;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati.

SANTAMOYRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos dhlwse oti qa mporoyse na apodexqei kapoies paragwgikes protaseis, kapoia metra ta opoia qa eishgeito h antipoliteysh, efoson aytes synebalan se apotelesmatikh antimetwpish ths krishs. Sta hdh ekteqeimena programmata h stis hdh katateqeimenes seires metrwn apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, anixneyei h kybernhsh kapoia epi twn opoiwn qa mporoyse na yparjei symfwnia;

ANTWNAROS: Qa perimenoyme tis topoqethseis twn arxhgwn twn kommatwn ayrio, stis synanthseis poy qa exoyn me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Den prokeitai na pw kati allo panw se ayto to qema.

DHMADHS: Pisteyete oti o tropos me ton opoio xeirizetai h kybernhsh kai apo ta legomena twn Ypoyrgwn, alla kai apo ta dika sas legomena, poy eixate milhsei gia aneyqyno laikismo toy k. Papandreoy kai ta sxetika, pisteyete oti ola ayta bohqoyn se ayth thn oikodomhsh enos klimatos amoibaias synaineshs metajy antipoliteyshs kai kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Pisteyw oti oi akraies topoqethseis ths hgetikhs omadas toy PASOK, asfalws kai den symbaloyn qetika sthn oikodomhsh enos klimatos synennohshs. Opws sas eipa, omws, kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, emena den me egkataleipei h elpida, thn kybernhsh den thn egkataleipei h elpida.

PALAIOLOGOS: Parathrhsa sthn apanthsh sas, twra, oti sthn hgetikh omada, enw sto parelqon, tis prohgoymenes meres, perilambanate kai ton idio ton proedro toy PASOK, shmera den to kanate. Anaferqhkate mono gia thn hgetikh omada.

ANTWNAROS: Thn hgetikh omada toy k. Papandreoy. Qelete na to diorqwsw; To kanw eyxaristws. Ayto akribws ennow.

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew, mhpws, enocei ths ayrianhs synanthshs, ton bgazete ejw apo to ``kadro'', tropon tina, twn anqrwpwn poy askoyn sklhrh kritikh.

ANTWNAROS: Alloi prospaqoyn na kanoyn kati tetoio. Oxi egw.

DHMADHS: Eseis, ws kybernhsh, eiste diateqeimenoi na kanete kapoia bhmata pisw sthn sklhrh kritikh, me akraies ekfraseis polles fores poy kai eseis exete xrhsimopoihsei, antapantwntas se ayta ta akraia, opws eipate, apo pleyras ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, prokeimenoy na breqei aytos o koinos topos;

ANTWNAROS: O koinos topos brisketai sthn epoikodomhtikh epejergasia protasewn poy einai realistikes, poy mporoyn na prosferoyn ston topo, poy mporoyn na ejyphrethsoyn ton koino stoxo poy prepei oloi mas na exoyme: Na bgoyme me oso to dynaton mikroteres apwleies apo th shmerinh dieqnh oikonomikh krish, poy bebaiws plhttei kai th xwra mas.

GKATSIOS: Qelw na rwthsw: Se periptwsh poy h elpida poy trefei h kybernhsh, oson afora sth synainesh, exei kyklo 24 wrwn kai den synainesoyn ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs stis protaseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa yparjei kai neos gyros synomiliwn;

ANTWNAROS: H synexhs arnhsh den odhgei poyqena. Kai bebaiws, h synexhs arnhsh den qa afairesei apo thn ypeyqynh kybernhsh ths xwras thn ypoxrewsh, to kaqhkon poy exei, na kanei o,ti einai aparaithto, prokeimenoy na prostateysei to eqniko symferon.

DHMADHS: Den odhgei oyte se ekloges ayth h arnhsh synaineshs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa kai xqes oti ayth h synexhs eklogologia blaptei to eqniko symferon.

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