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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-02-18Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>Dieyqynsh PlhroforhshsTmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn Tetarth, 18 Febroyarioy 2009 Ariqmos Deltioy: 186857437 Ekdosh 1 BRIEFING(180209) O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS Aqhna, 18 Febroyarioy 2009H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPOEYAGGELO ANTWNARO Kalhspera. " Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Gnwrizete oti syzhthqhkan qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn. Eidikotera syzhthqhke to qema toy xwrotajikoy sxedioy gia th biomhxania, to opoio aneptyje o Ypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Soyflias, o opoios proebh se sxetikes anakoinwseis opoy sas parapempw. " Nwritera, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs synanthqhke me ton Geroysiasth k. Ritsarnt Ntermpin kai ton politeiako Ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn toy Ilinois ton k. Alejh Giannoylia. " Kalesame, oxi mono xqes -einai h pollosth fora poy to kanoyme- to PASOK na mas dieykrinisei epiteloys ti ennooyn o k. Papandreoy kai h hgetikh toy omada, otan gia thn antimetwpish ths anergias proteinoyn th qesmoqethsh ths legomenhs ``koinwnikhs ergasias''. Den phrame, gia mia akomh fora, kamia apanthsh. To PASOK perioristhke jana se genikothtes kai aoristologies. Ta erwthmata poy qetei h koinh gnwmh einai sygkekrimena. Ta epanalambanw: Einai h koinwnikh ergasia ameibomenh h eqelontikh; Einai plhroys h merikhs apasxolhshs; Einai asfalismenh h anasfalisth; Gia posoys anqrwpoys, gia posoys Ellhnes polites milame; Se poioys tomeis qa apasxolhqoyn kai me poio tropo; Ti eidoys symbaseis qa exoyn; Kai en pash periptwsei, as mas dwsei to PASOK, as mas dwsoyn o k. Papandreoy kai h hgetikh toy omada, kapoia paradeigmata apo xwres opoy lene pws efarmozetai ayto to efeyrhma toys, gia na katalaboyme ki emeis ti akribws ennoei to PASOK me ton oro ``koinwnikh ergasia''. O k. Papandreoy xrwstaei amesa jekaqares apanthseis se ola ayta ta poly sobara erwthmata. Ola ta alla einai logia kena periexomenoy. Parakoloyqhsame xqes thn prospaqeia toy k. Papandreoy na ekmetalleytei epikoinwniaka toys qesmoys ths xwras gia na dhmioyrghsei entypwseis kai tipote parapanw. O proedros toy PASOK den distazei me diafora texnasmata poy den armozoyn kan -prepei na pw- sth qesmikh toy idiothta, na synthrei o idios thn eklogologia. To Syntagma ths xwras -einai safes ayto poy qa pw- epidiwkei eyryteres synaineseis gia thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Oi politikes dynameis einai ypoxrewmenes na kataballoyn th megisth prospaqeia gia na prostateyoyn kai na qwrakizoyn panta to qesmo toy anwtatoy politeiakoy mas paragonta. H Nea Dhmokratia, h shmerinh kybernhsh, to epraje panta sto parelqon, qa to prajei fysika kai sto mellon. Den einai, bebaia, h prwth fora poy o k. Papandreoy kanei kati tetoio. Den einai, bebaia, h prwth fora poy emfanizetai etoimos na qysiasei ta panta sto bwmo twn dikwn toy mikrokommatikwn skopimothtwn. Prepei, loipon, amesa o k. Papandreoy na jekaqarisei pote to PASOK milaei me th glwssa ths eilikrineias kai pote apokalyptei tis pragmatikes toy proqeseis ston ellhniko lao. Otan topoqeteitai o idios o k. Papandreoy enwpion toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai dhlwnei oti qa sthrijei thn epaneklogh toy. H otan, ligh wra prin apo th dikh toy eisodo sto Proedriko Megaro, topoqetoyntai koryfaia stelexh toy kommatos toy kai dhlwnoyn akribws ta antiqeta, opws eixe kanei allwste, sas qymizw, kai o grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Oi polites antilambanontai poly kala ti qelei na petyxei o arxhgos toy PASOK. Se ayth th dyskolh oikonomikh sygkyria, anti na kataqesei, opws ofeilei, to diko toy sygkekrimeno oysiastiko kai realistiko sxedio gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs, kanei o,ti perna apo to xeri toy -eytyxws xwris epityxia- gia na odhghsei th xwra se eklogikes peripeteies. Den qa paijoyme, asfalws, to paixnidi toy k. Papandreoy kai ths hgetikhs toy omadas. Exoyme jekaqarisei mia kai kalh oti h koybenta ayth den mas afora. Prwth proteraiothta gia thn kybernhsh einai h antimetwpish twn synepeiwn ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs. Oi polites gnwrizoyn poly kala to sxedio ths kybernhshs. Einai, epiteloys, kairos na maqoyn an yparxei kati kai gia ta sxedia -kai den anaferomai mono sta oikonomika- ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Parakalw tis erwthseis sas. SPYRAKH: H erwthsh moy afora sto anoixto paraqyro poy afhse o k. Soyflias gia to endexomeno allagwn sto epikairopoihmeno programma staqerothtas to opoio exei ypobalei h kybernhsh stis Bryjelles. Qelw na rwthsw apo poies parametroys qa kaqoristoyn aytes oi allages kai se poia kateyqynsh, dedomenoy oti oi plhrofories apo th synedriash toy Kolegioy twn Epitropwn lene oti h Ellada katetagh mazi me thn Irlandia se mia dysmenh qesh, kyriws logw twn piesewn poy askoyn sth xwra oi agores. ANTWNAROS: Katarxas, qa sas parakaloysa na akoysete oles tis omilies kai tis topoqethseis poy exoyn ginei stis Bryjelles. Ayto to opoio lete gia to paraqyro poy afhse o Ypoyrgos k. Soyflias, einai kati to opoio emeis exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws. Einai kati me to opoio opoiadhpote ypeyqynh kybernhsh diaxeirizetai thn krish, exei to xreos na antimetwpisei, me th sobarothta kai th nhfaliothta thn opoia apaitoyn oi kairoi. Thn katastash, tis epiptwseis poy dhmioyrgei h dieqnhs oikonomikh katastash, exei thn ypoxrewsh, to eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos xqes kai sas parapempw se ayto, na kanei o,ti einai aparaithto. Na kanei, efoson kriqei aparaithto, tis anagkaies prosarmoges, beltiwseis, diorqwseis. H krish ejelissetai diarkws. Ejelissetai me gorgoys ryqmoys. Kai eimai bebaios oti eseis poy parakoloyqeite ta tektainomena kai pera apo ta synora ths xwras mas, qa to diapistwnete. Einai epishs gnwsto oti emeis briskomaste se mia diarkh epagrypnhsh, opws prepei na kanei kaqe eklegmenh kybernhsh, h opoia exei synaisqhsh toy xreoys ths apenanti ston topo kai stoys anqrwpoys. Proseggizoyme, loipon, ola ayta ta qemata me swfrosynh, sobarothta, ypeyqynothta kai synepeia. Qa kanoyme prajh ola osa periexontai sto sxedio, to opoio exoyme ypobalei. To sxedio ayto problepei sygkekrimena pragmata. Metajy twn allwn -ypenqymizw gia osoys to exoyn jexasei- problepei sygkekrimenes perikopes ston tomea twn dapanwn kai ola ayta qa ta thrhsoyme aparegklita. Eimaste apofasismenoi na ta thrhsoyme gia to kalo toy topoy kai twn anqrwpwn. Olwn twn anqrwpwn, olwn twn sympolitwn mas. ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti exete jekaqarisei pws h koybenta peri eklogwn einai kati poy den sas afora. Egw rwtw eyqews: Tiqetai h oxi qema prowrwn eklogwn; ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei. Den exw na pw kati allo. Exei topoqethqei kai o Prwqypoyrgos me jekaqaro tropo. KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh mas eipate oti h kybernhsh brisketai se diarkh epagrypnhsh, qa hqela na sas epishmanw oti sthn ekqesh toy o k. Almoynia -h opoia shmera qa egkriqei apo thn Olomeleia twn Epitropwn- epishmainei oti h shmerinh katastash sthn ellhnikh oikonomia ofeiletai se kakh dhmosionomikh politikh toy 2007, otan akomh den eixe arxisei h oikonomikh krish. Ola ayta... ANTWNAROS: Exete thn ekqesh; KALOGEROPOYLOY: Qelete na th diabasete; Einai apo thn efhmerida ``Ta Nea''. Exoyn fwtotypia ths ekqeshs sta agglika. An qelete na sas th dwsw kiolas na th exete sto arxeio sas. Loipon, sas erwtw: O k. Almoynia leei oti ayto poy yparxei shmera, ofeiletai sthn kakh diaxeirish apo to 2007. Kai se allo shmeio, kyrie Ekproswpe leei oti sas eixan proeidopoihsei apo tis 4 Martioy toy 2008, oti me ayth th diaxeirish h xwra kindyneyei na mpei jana se epithrhsh. Moy apantate se ola ayta; ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai sas apantw. Einai mia synolikh diadikasia, h diadikasia toy yperbolikoy elleimmatos, sthn opoia ypoballontai oles oi xwres. Otan gnwstopoihqei olo to keimeno, to opoio eseis apospasmatika paroysiazete, qa exete plhrh eikona. Egw akoysa ton k. Almoynia 3-4 lepta, prin katebw, se thleoptiko kanali poy elege kai alla pragmata gia th xwra mas. Emeis qa kanoyme to kaqhkon mas kai qa kanoyme ekeino to opoio einai aparaithto, wste na prokycoyn kata to dynaton ligoteres synepeies gia toys polites kai th xwra mas. Exoyme aisqhma eyqynhs, antiqeta me to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs poy to diakatexei mia kokkinh grammh, mia monimh stash aneyqynothtas. PALAIOLOGOS: Sto idio erwthma qa epimeinw kai egw. Kai epeidh epikalesthkate tis dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Almoynia se sygkekrimeno kanali thleoptiko... ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto egw. Eipa oti metadoqhkan oi dhlwseis toy k. Almoynia. Den eipa oti ekane dhlwseis o k. Almoynia sto kanali. PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws, nai. Oti metadoqhkan. As mh meinoyme sto qema ayto poy einai prosxhmatiko. Epishs o k. Almoynia xarakthrise ta metra poy h kybernhsh protiqetai na parei, symfwna me to epikairopoihmeno programma staqerothtas, asafh kai oxi sygkekrimena opws eipate eseis. Malista zhtaei asfyktika periqwria: Anti triwn etwn opws qelei h Ellada, dyo xronia dhmosionomikhs prosarmoghs. ANTWNAROS: Qa topoqethqei argotera o k. Papaqanasioy. PALAIOLOGOS: Ayth einai h apanthsh sas, ws Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy; ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka hdh. PALAIOLOGOS: Gia tis pieseis toy k. Almoynia kai ths KOMISION; ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka gia thn KOMISION. SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, egw qelw na rwthsw an qewreite ikanopoihtikh mexri twra thn roh ths (den akoygetai) toy paketoy twn 28 dis. eyrw poy exei egkrinei hdh h kybernhsh pros tis trapezes, kai an antimetwpizete to endexomeno, logw ths katastashs poy epikratei stis agores ths Anatolikhs Eyrwphs, tis trapezikes, stis opoies oi ellhnikes trapezes exoyn qygatrikes, na doqei kai ena deytero paketo sthrijhs stis trapezes sto meso toy xronoy. ANTWNAROS: Den exei syzhthqei kati tetoio. Gia ta alla qemata topoqethqhka xqes. BASILAKOPOYLOS: Mporei na desmeytei h kybernhsh oti ena endexomeno allaghs stoys xeirismoys -to afhsate anoixto kai eseis kai o k. Soyflias kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos- den qa xreiastei ananewsh ths politikhs nomimopoihshs gia ayton poy analambanei toys xeirismoys aytoys; ANTWNAROS: Na sas pw kati; Teleia kai payla sto qema twn eklogwn. BASILAKOPOYLOS: Oxi, rwtaw to ejhs: Eseis kanete mia sygkekrimenh politikh kai lete oti ``eimaste se epagrypnhsh''. Poy shmainei oti ``an xreiastei qa parw prosqeta metra h kapoia metra h kapws alliws qa to xeiristw''. Ayto to ``kapws alliws'' eimaste sigoyroi; Den milaw gia ekloges etsi peza. Lew, apokleietai na xreiastei ananewsh ths politikhs nomimopoihshs ths kybernhshs; ANTWNAROS: Eite peza, eite ... poihtika topoqethqeite se ayto to qema, h apanthsh moy einai mia. Ayth poy sas exw dwsei. SPYRAKH: Epeidh eipate ``teleia kai payla sto qema twn eklogwn'' na synagw ej aytoy oti h kybernhsh qa epixeirhsei na ejantlhsei thn tetraetia, anejarthtws boylhsews toy PASOK gia thn proedrikh eklogh to 2010; ANTWNAROS: Ek meroys ths kybernhshs bazw teleia kai payla sto qema ths syzhthshs twn eklogwn. Exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos thn perasmenh ebdomada, me tropo o opoios einai jekaqaros. Den exw na prosqesw h na afairesw otidhpote se ayta poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. SPYRAKH: An moy epitrepete, o Prwqypoyrgos den eipe oti h kybernhsh qa ejantlhsei thn tetraetia. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti h kybernhsh den asxoleitai me thn eklogologia. ANTWNAROS: Menw sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. TSIOYFOS: Qa epimeinw loipon sto idio qema. Eipate prin apo ligo oti den sas afora h koybenta peri eklogwn. Den sas afora th sygkekrimenh xronikh stigmh h den sas afora se baqos xronoy; ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei. TSIOYFOS: Se ayto poy sas rwtaw; ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei jekaqara. To agxos gia tis ekloges prin apo tis eyrwekloges, to exei to PASOK kai kaneis allos. Den einai agxos toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den einai agxos ths Dhmokratias kai twn politwn. Den einai agxos toy politikoy systhmatos. Einai apla kai mono to proswpiko agxos toy k. Papandreoy kai einai amesa synyfasmeno me to apotelesma twn eyrweklogwn kai tis endexomenes metepeita ejelijeis sto komma moy gia ton idio ton k. Papandreoy. PANTAZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o k. Tragakhs sto radiofwno ths NET erwthqeis an oi prwhn Ypoyrgoi poy emplekontai sthn ypoqesh toy Batopedioy qa einai sta chfodeltia ths Neas Dhmokratias, opote kai an ginoyn oi ekloges, dhlwse oti ``den blepw to logo na mhn einai''. Poia h dikh sas apanthsh sthn idia erwthsh; ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipote parapanw. To qema, gia mena, exei teleiwsei. PANTAZHS: Anejarthta apo to pote qa ginoyn oi ekloges. ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa: Exw apanthsei epaneilhmmenws, exw topoqethqei. Den yparxei qema. PALAIOLOGOS: Syggnwmh, eipate ``to qema exei kleisei''; Giati den exei anoijei kan akoma. ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei jekaqara me ton tropo poy gnwrizete. SANTAMOYRHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h legomenh koinwnikh ergasia htan mia epilogh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias epi kybernhsewn PASOK, poy isxyse toylaxiston mia pentaetia. Den htan monimh, den htan plhrhs, den htan asfalismenh. Ola htan sto meson. ANTWNAROS: Syndeetai me to Layrio; SANTAMOYRHS: Na oloklhrwsw; To erwthma einai an h Nea Dhmokratia, ws paroysa kybernhsh h endexomenws ws mellontikh, qa qesei se efarmogh tetoio metro gia thn antimetwpish ths anergias. ANTWNAROS: Emas ekeino poy mas endiaferei -kai to exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws- einai h qwrakish ths ergasias. Lambanoyme sygkekrimena metra, eidika se ayth th dyskolh peristash. Ta metra ayta einai gnwsta, exoyn koinopoihqei. Metatrepoyme to epidoma anergias se epidoma ergasias. Kai xairomai poy kai apo thn pleyra sas dinete kapoies apanthseis se enan periergo qesmo poy qymamai oti tote o idios o k. Papandreoy ton eixe perigracei me tropo nefelwdh. Isws gia ayto to PASOK arneitai akomh kai shmera na dwsei sygkekrimenes apanthseis, gia mia akomh fora. Milaei gia asfalismenh h anasfalisth ergasia; Sygkekrimena pragmata. KALOGEROPOYLOY: Mas apantate, synexeia apeyqyneste sto PASOK, otan sas rwtame emeis kyrie Ekproswpe, me sygxwreite, den mas dinete kamia apanthsh. Rwtate to PASOK, ti ennoei kai sas rwtame an, en pash periptwsei, sas eixe proeidopoihsei h KOMISION kai den mas apantate. En pash periptwsei, egw qa hqela na rwthsw kati allo. Se o,ti afora th dhlwsh toy k. Papandreoy, epeidh fantazomai oti kai to PASOK leitoyrgei opws leitoyrgei kai h Nea Dhmokratia, dhladh, ton teleytaio logo ton exei... ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai den leitoyrgoyme me ton idio tropo. KALOGEROPOYLOY: ... o arxhgos toy kommatos. Kai egw pairnw ypoch moy th dhlwsh toy k. Papandreoy poy sas kalei na peite an synaineite sto proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Ti apantate, se ayto to sygkekrimeno erwthma; ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws. Den prokeitai ayth th stigmh na anoijw kamia syzhthsh gia qemata poy emmesa h amesa exoyn sxesh me ekloges. Ayto to kanei synexws to PASOK. Me opoio tropo kai an epixeirhqei, eite apo esas kalopista, eite apo to PASOK, den jerw poso kalopista, na emplejei thn kybernhsh eidika aytes tis dyskoles stigmes, se syzhthsh gia ekloges, emeis den qa to kanoyme. KALOGEROPOYLOY: Moy qymizete thn apanthsh sas; ANTWNAROS: Exoyme Proedro ths Dhmokratias, o opoios askei poly kala ta kaqhkonta toy. Egw den prokeitai na akoloyqhsw to PASOK, sas to lew, se syzhthsh gia ekloges. PALAIOLOGOS: Eseis poly swsta kanete apo thn pleyra sas, alla taytoxrona epeidh kathgoreite to PASOK kai ton k. Papandreoy oti den distazei me diafora texnasmata na synthrei thn eklogologia, anarwtiemai: Thn eklogologia den th synthroyn epishs boyleytes kai stelexh toy kommatos sas, poy dhmosia topoqetoyntai kai kanoyn dhlwseis gia to qema twn eklogwn; Afhnw ti mporei na lene se synomilies me dhmosiografoys. Den th synthroyn kai stelexh toy kommatos sas; H to gegonos... ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete kai eseis thn kentrikh qesh ths kybernhshs mas, h opoia einai safhs. Kai gnwrizw oti exoyme mia sympagh Koinoboyleytikh Omada, h opoia apodeiknyei, akribws sthn prajh, poso sympaghs einai. PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, to gegonos omws oti polla stelexh kai boyleytes kai na ypenqymisw kai onomastika, opws o k. Boylgarakhs, poy epanerxontai sto qema twn chfodeltiwn h opws o k. Doykas h kai alla stelexh, aytoi den synthroyn thn eklogologia; ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn kai to gnwrizete. PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, egw lew, poy apodidete to gegonos oti polloi boyleytes milane gia to endexomeno ths kaqodoy toys sta chfodeltia. ANTWNAROS: Oso kai na prospaqhsete, syzhthsh gia ekloges kai eklogologia, egw den prokeitai na kanw. PALAIOLOGOS: Ta stelexh sas omws to kanoyn, ayto epishmainw. SANTAMOYRHS: Qa parakalesw kyrie Ekproswpe, bebaia o kaqenas exei to dikaiwma sth gnwmh toy, alla mh moy katalogizete oti apanthsa krinontas thn politikh toy PASOK gia tis qeseis apasxolhshs. ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Eseis eipate oti einai anasfalisth ergasia. SANTAMOYRHS: Nai, den htan apanthsh se kati, htan diabebaiwmeno reportaz... ANTWNAROS: Xairomai akomh perissotero. Xairomai dipla giati enas egkyros dhmosiografos to leei se ayth thn aiqoysa. SANTAMOYRHS: Pame se mia deyterh erwthsh: H Aqhna ypedexqh toys kyrioys Ntermpin kai Giannoylia ws Amerikanoys politikoys h epishmoys filoys toy Proedroy Ompama; ANTWNAROS: Ws proswpa ths amerikanikhs politikhs skhnhs. PALAIOLOGOS: Ti shmainei, ``ws proswpa ths amerikanikhs politikhs skhnhs''; ANTWNAROS: Opws erxontai kai alloi ajiwmatoyxoi, Amerikanoi h apo alles xwres, hrqan kai oi dyo kyrioi, twn opoiwn thn episkech anakoinwsa xqes. Kai eginan kai ekeinoi dektoi se synanthsh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo opws ginetai kai me alloys ajiwmatoyxoys. PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, ws epishmoi filoi, as poyme, toy Amerikanoy Proedroy k. Ompama; ANTWNAROS: Yparxei o oros ``epishmos filos''; Me bazete na syzhtw anyparktoys oroys; KALOGEROPOYLOY: Sygnwmh, na rwthsw ep` aytoy; O Prwqypoyrgos, dhladh, dexetai, entajei den einai kapoioi tyxaioi anqrwpoi, alla en pash periptwsei den einai kai ta prwta stelexh. Mporei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos na dexqei opoion toy zhthsei mia synanthsh, th stigmh poy den ekproswpei tipote, para mono thn ellhnikh Omogeneia. Wraia. ANTWNAROS: Prwton, o enas htan politeiakos Ypoyrgos kai o allos, htan Amerikanos Geroysiasths. Qa moy epitrecete, thn krish gia to poioys qa dexetai, na thn kanei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. SPYRAKH: Qelw na epimeinw ligo, s` ayto poy sas rwthsa sthn arxh kai den moy apanthsate. Pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh, thn piesh poy askei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, dedomenoy oti katatassei thn Ellada mazi me thn Irlandia, stis xwres poy dexontai th megalyterh piesh apo tis agores, gia th daneiodothsh kai exontas gnwsh twn stoixeiwn, h Ellada emfanizei elleimma ligo panw apo 3%, h de Irlandia emfanizei elleimma me dichfio ariqmo. Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh, ayth thn omadopoihsh twn xwrwn kai pws qa antimetwpisei th megalyterh piesh poy askei h KOMISION; ANTWNAROS: Yparxei h topoqethsh, apo thn perasmenh ebdomada, toy k. Papaqanasioy, h opoia ejakoloyqei na isxyei sto akeraio. Den exw na pw prosqesw kati. Shmasia exei oti emeis exoyme thn apofasistikothta, th boylhsh na kanoyme prajh ola osa exoyme anakoinwsei. Kai h diaboyleysh ayth synexizetai. SANTAMOYRHS: (Den akoygetai). ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite. Ta xrhmata exoyn diateqei kanonika stis trapezes. Oi trapezes prepei na antapokriqoyn, to exw pei kai allh fora, sto koinwniko kaqhkon poy exoyn, metajy twn allwn. ZORMPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dedomenoy opws eipate oti h kentrikh kybernhtikh grammh einai na teqei telos sthn eklogologia, na ypoqesw oti h kybernhsh einai dysaresthmenh me osa stelexh ths emfanizontai dhmosia ypodaylizontas th syzhthsh; ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw pote -sas to exw pei kai alles fores- topoqethseis boyleytwn. Oyte boyleytwn ths kybernhtikhs pleiochfias, oyte boyleytwn twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Den qa to kanw oyte kai shmera. Shmasia exei h kentrikh grammh, thn opoia qa moy epitrecete na pw, exw thn ejoysiodothsh na ekfrazw, se ayton edw to xwro. ZORMPA: Den sas zhthsa na sxoliasete memonwmenes dhlwseis boyleytwn. Synolika, qelw na pw, an h kybernhsh einai dysaresthmenh me osa stelexh ths parekklinoyn ths kentrikhs kybernhtikhs grammhs. ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka. Den exw na pw kati allo. Sas eyxaristw. 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