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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 12 Ianoyarioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 180212645

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 12 Ianoyarioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash toy KYSEA. H Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Baggelhs Meimarakhs ekanan sxetikes dhlwseis, stis opoies kai sas parapempw.

Kalwsorizw, epishs, kai ton k. Blabiano poy einai jana mazi mas.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SMYRNHS: Me aformh poy epestrece o k. Blabianos apo thn perioxh ths Gazas, mhpws exete kapoio sxolio sxetika me osa apokalyptontai oti qa ginetai metafora polemikoy ylikoy mesa apo to limani toy Astakoy; Sas parapempw se amerikanikes phges kai ton ekproswpo toy Pentagwnoy, to opoio epikaleitai kai to Rwyters.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei topoqethsh toy ekproswpoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Giwrgoy Koymoytsakoy apo xqes, sthn opoia sas parapempw. H dhlwsh ayth einai jekaqarh kai den afhnei kanena periqwrio parermhneias.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, afhnei polla periqwria parermhneias h topoqethsh ayth, idiaitera ean laboyme ypoch mas th dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy amerikanikoy Pentagwnoy oti 325 konteiners pyromaxikwn metaferontai apo germanikh etaireia apo to limani toy Astakoy pros to limani 'Asnton toy Israhl. Emeis giati na pistecoyme ton k. Koymoytsako kai oxi ton ekproswpo toy Pentagwnoy;

ANTWNAROS: Giati egw pisteyw kai epafiemai stis dhlwseis toy epishmoy ekproswpoy toy ellhnikoy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

KAKALHS: Eseis mporeite na elegjete oti den qa perasoyn apo edw ayta ta konteiners; Mporeite na elegjete to idiwtiko limani ston Astako;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw th dhlwsh toy k. Koymoytsakoy, diaceydontas ta sxetika dhmosieymata: ``Den tiqetai qema pragmatopoihshs anefodiasmoy toy israhlinoy stratoy mesw toy limanioy toy Astakoy h alloy shmeioy ths ellhnikhs Epikrateias''.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na diasfalisete oti den qa perasei apo ekei, apo ton Astako;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn wra poy synedriaze to KYSEA yphrxe mia akomh yperpthsh toyrkikwn aeroskafwn panw apo to Farmakonhsi. Kat` arxhn, qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia ta teleytaia gegonota sto Aigaio, ean yparxei etoimothta apo thn ellhnikh pleyra sto Aigaio kai an exei enhmerwqei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia tis teleytaies kinhseis ths Agkyras.

ANTWNAROS: Gia ola ayta topoqethqhkan, molis prin apo ligo, oi dyo Ypoyrgoi ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, oi opoioi xeirizontai ypeyqyna to sxetiko qema. Den exw na prosqesw, se ayta, kati. Oi dhlwseis, tis opoies ekanan kai h k. Mpakogiannh kai o k. Meimarakhs, einai analytikes, ekteneis kai topoqetoyn to qema sta pragmatika toy plaisia.

XIWTHS: Apo tis dhlwseis twn dyo Ypoyrgwn shmera, meta to telos toy KYSEA, prokyptei oti h kybernhsh ektima oti yparxei mia stasimothta stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Apo tis dhlwseis twn idiwn Ypoyrgwn tis prohgoymenes hmeres proekypte safws oti yparxei mia epideinwsh stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Qa hqela, loipon, synolika na mas peite an yparxei epideinwsh h oxi stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis kai an aytoy toy eidoys oi kinhseis stis opoies probainei h Polemikh Aeroporia ths Toyrkias einai ths idias poiothtas me aytes poy eixame ta prohgoymena xronia.

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kamia diafora stis dhlwseis poy ekanan oi dyo Ypoyrgoi thn perasmenh ebdomada kai tis dhlwseis tis opoies ekanan shmera.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei kapoio sxolio gia th shmerinh apagwgh toy k. Panagopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Ekfrazw thn eyxh, oxi mono ws Ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, alla kai ws Ellhnas poliths, na exei aisio telos h peripeteia enos anqrwpoy poy, opws piqanon gnwrizete polloi apo esas, exei kai sobara problhmata ygeias kata thn plhroforhsh poy exw. Gia ola ta alla sxetika qemata, qa hqela na parapemcw stis anakoinwseis poy qa kanei, opote yparxoyn stoixeia, o ekproswpos ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias.

KALARITHS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada sta epeisodia poy eginan sto kentro ths Aqhnas eginan syllhceis 13-14, an qymamai kala, dhmosiografwn, kapoiwn dikhgorwn, mias hlikiwmenhs kai oi astynomikoi esteilan ton idio typo dyo fores sto nosokomeio. Koykoyloforo den synelaban. Yparxei kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Gia ola ayta ta qemata exei topoqethqei, epishs, h Ellhnikh Astynomia. Se qemata epixeirhsiaka den ypeiserxomai. Shmasia exei h diafylajh ths dhmosias tajhs kai o sebasmos twn nomwn apo oloys. An, opws exei pei kai o k. Paylopoylos, yparxoyn periptwseis opoy kapoioi ekanan energeies oi opoies parabainoyn to nomo, tote aytes bebaiws elegxontai. Einai oros poy xrhsimopoihsan kai o Ypoyrgos k. Paylopoylos kai o anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos k. Markogiannakhs.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, arxisan hdh oi gkrinies apo Ypoyrgoys, Yfypoyrgoys poy apomakrynqhkan kai apo boyleytes poy den ypoyrgopoihqhkan. Hqela na rwthsw, loipon, an o Prwqypoyrgos exei qesei ena orio, to opoio ean jeperastei qa odhghsei opoiondhpote diafwnoynta se diagrafh kai kata synepeia se ekloges sth xwra.

ANTWNAROS: To orio gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh einai ena: H ylopoihsh toy ergoy to opoio exoyme analabei. Kai aytos einai o gnwmonas, basei toy opoioy kineitai h shmerinh kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy, omws. Enas prwhn Ypoyrgos, o k. Liaphs ekane mia dhlwsh, h opoia ermhneyetai poikilotropws. Pantws, panw-katw eipe oti ekeinos qa logodotei apo edw kai pera mono ston ellhniko lao, giati mexri twra ws Ypoyrgos logodotoyse kai edine ejhghseis ston Prwqypoyrgo. Anarwtiemai ti htan ekeino poy ton empodize ola ayta ta xronia poy htan Ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs na ekfrazetai eleyqera;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn kata pagia taktikh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla o k. Liaphs htan kai prwhn Ypoyrgos gia pente xronia peripoy.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn.

MPALHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia tis dhlwseis poy ekane o boyleyths toy SYN k. Carianos se kyriakatiko fyllo gia thn tromokratia;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den sxoliazw dhlwseis oydenos boyleytoy. Gnwrizw, omws, ena pragma: Einai kai prepei na einai kaqolikh h katadikh prajewn tromokratias, xwris ``nai men, alla''. Jekaqara logia.

KAKALHS: Na epanelqw sto qema toy KYSEA. Lhfqhsan apofaseis gia ejoplistika programmata, eidika gia ypobryxia, sth shmerinh synedriash;

ANTWNAROS: Gia ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan sto KYSEA egine ektenhs enhmerwsh apo toys synarmodioys Ypoyrgoys. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KAKALHS: Ejeidikeymenh erwthsh ekana, an to exete ypoch sas.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Gia ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan, egine enhmerwsh. H enhmerwsh ayth dinei apanthsh se ola ta erwthmata poy qetete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw, epishs, me aformh tis dhlwseis ths k. Mpakogiannh xqes sto ``BHMA ths Kyriakhs'', sxetika me thn tromokratia. H k. Mpakogiannh eipe oti yparxoyn kapoia parakladia, oti mporei nai men to epixeirhsiako kommati to megalo ths 17N na exei ejarqrwqei, wstoso yparxoyn parakladia ta opoia kykloforoyn, as to poyme, eleyqera kai oti qa prepei kapoia stigmh na erqei, mallon prepei na erqei h stigmh gia na syllhfqoyn kai na logodothsoyn. H apoch ths kybernhshs einai oti ontws yparxoyn parakladia ths 17N poy den exoyn ejarqrwqei;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia tis dhlwseis ths Ypoyrgoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: To epishmainw giati den einai h kaq` ylhn armodia Ypoyrgos, kata to typiko meros toy pragmatos.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia tis dhlwseis ths k. Mpakogiannh, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, mesa sthn idia thn oikogeneia ths eixe qyma apo tromokratia. Ton ajexasto Paylo Mpakogiannh. Kai synepws, nomimopoieitai, dikaioytai na exei apoch epi toy qematos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw anarwtiemai, omws, twra se kybernhtiko epipedo, ean h kybernhsh symmerizetai oti ontws yparxei chgma alhqeias sthn topoqethsh ths k. Mpakogiannh. Bebaiws, einai dedomeno oti exei mia eyaisqhsia kai ena endiaferon parapanw.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epibebaiwnete h diaceydete dhlwseis poy filojenoyntai sto dieqnh Typo, einai toy antiproedroy ths Qatar Airways oti h etaireia toy oydepote endiaferqhke gia thn Olympiakh kai thn Olympiakh thn proteine h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthn etaireia;

ANTWNAROS: Einai mia diadikasia h opoia brisketai se ejelijh. Den exw topoqethqei se kanena xroniko shmeio gi` ayth th diadikasia. H diadikasia brisketai se poly lepto shmeio. Kai qa hmoyn o teleytaios poy qa sxoliaza h qa epairna qesh gia mia tetoia diadikasia, akribws se ayto to poly lepto xroniko shmeio.

SMYRNHS: Meta ton anasxhmatismo, mhpws qa prepei na ginei anasxhmatismos kai sta ``golden boys'' poy zhthse o k. Xarakopoylos xqes;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh poy edwsa prohgoymenws peri boyleytwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia ta ``golden boys'', alla egw qa to pw diaforetika. Akoygetai kai fhmologeitai kai grafetai oti qa yparjoyn allages stis dioikhseis twn DEKO kai twn dhmosiwn Organismwn. Pote qa einai ayto to xronodiagramma gia tis allages twn dioikhsewn twn DEKO kai twn dhmosiwn Organismwn;

ANTWNAROS: Me gnwrizete arketa xronia kai gnwrizete oti se eikotologies den pairnw pote qesh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den yparxei, dhladh, zhthma allagwn stoys epikefalhs orismenwn DEKO;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy molis sas edwsa.

KAKALHS: Me aformh ton anasxhmatismo, kybernhtika stelexh, melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, exoyn milhsei gia diorqwtikh poreia kai gia pio filolaikh politikh, opws thn exoyn apokalesei. Exete na mas dwsete kapoia sygkekrimena paradeigmata se ayth thn kateyqynsh h einai logia toy aera; Mhpws sas afhse kamenh gh h prohgoymenh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh einai mia kai exei synexeia. Den dexomai toys xarakthrismoys toys opoioys xrhsimopoieite. Th lejh, de, ``synepeia'' poy espeysan polloi na shmeiwsoyn, th xrhsimopoihse kai o Prwqypoyrgos, an den kanw laqos, sthn topoqethsh poy ekane enwpion toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy: ``Synepeia''. Otan loipon exw kati gia thn oikonomia - -kai qa hqela na sas parakalesw na eiste prosektikoi ston tropo me ton opoio proseggizete ta qemata sthn oikonomia- - na eiste bebaioi oti qa to maqete. Den yparxei kaneis apolytws logos na katafeygei kapoios se diafora senaria.

KAKALHS: Sygkekrimena, den moy apanthsate omws an ejetazei kapoia diorqwtikh kinhsh...

ANTWNAROS: Ean kai efoson yparjei kati, qa to plhroforhqeite.

KALARITHS: Apo tis teleytaies dhmoskophseis exete bgalei kapoio symperasma;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei kati poy na sas odhgei sto symperasma oti qa allajw stash epi twn dhmoskophsewn; Einai gnwsth h stash ths kybernhshs.

SWTHRIADOY: Den sxoliazete tis dhmoskophseis. Exei meiwqei, bebaiws, h calida, alla me aformh tis dhmoskophseis, to PASOK eipe, oyte ligo oyte poly, oti einai qema xronoy na diasyrqei ek neoy h kybernhsh, ara ta apotelesmata twn dhmoskophsewn einai proskaira. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Egw ekeino to opoio blepw einai oti to PASOK epideiknyei ayth thn akatasxeth boylimia gia ejoysia. Kala qa kanei, anti na mila me oroys laikismoy kai politikoy bermpalismoy, kalo loipon qa htan na kaqisei katw kai na epejergastei realistikes protaseis, kati to opoio den exei kanei mexri twra.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayrio to ellhniko Dhmosio bgainei stis agores kai anazhtei peripoy, dyo dis eyrw mesw omologwn. Opws einai etsi h katastash ayth th stigmh eiste aisiodojoi, dedomenhs kai ths katastashs poy yparxei, qymizw aplws oti h Germania ecaxne eji dis kai meta bias brhke tessera.

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh Politeia, to ellhniko kratos, h Ellada einai, opws gnwrizete, enas apolytws ajiopistos etairos. Kai ayto to gnwrizoyn oloi.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo arketo kairo o tote Ypoyrgos Oikonomias, Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs eixe desmeytei, enwpion malista kai thleoptikwn kamerwn gia na mhn moy peite oti den to jerete, sto Dhmarxo Peiraia, Panagiwth Fasoyla, pws qa pernoyse mesw ths Boylhs tropologia gia thn telikh ryqmish twn megalwn xrewn poy klhronomhse apo tis prohgoymenes dhmotikes Arxes. H tropologia ayth den egine apo ton Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh. Rwtw, loipon, h yposxesh ayth qa pragmatopoihqei apo ton neo Ypoyrgo Giannh Papaqanasioy h h kybernhsh qa afhsei ton trito megalytero Dhmo ths xwras na boyliazei sta xreh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw. Ta xreh, omws, qa hqela na pw, kapoios ta prokalei.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na gyrisw ligo sta omologa. Epeidh ayrio einai mia dyskolh mera, Trith kai 13, poios einai o stoxos poy exete qesei gia na peite oti exei petyxei ayth h diadikasia omologwn. Zhtame dyo dis. An petyxoyme posa qa eimaste ikanopoihmenoi ws kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo panw se ayto to qema. Kai qa hqela, parakalw, tetoia qemata na mhn ta proseggizete me oroys posostwn. Einai poly lepta, poly shmantika, poly oysiastika qemata gia thn xwra, gia na ginontai antikeimeno tetoias eikotologias. Perimenete thn ayrianh mera.

KOYTRAS: Qelw na meinw sto idio qema me ta omologa kai qelw na sas rwthsw, an h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai an syzhthqhke to qema kai sth synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs me ton k. Soyflia, ton k. Xatzhdakh, paroysia kai toy k. Probopoyloy gia to an ta ellhnika omologa qa aporrofhqoyn apo ellhnikes trapezes.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo gia ayto to qema. O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

KAKALHS: Milhsate gia ajiopisto etairo nwritera, alla pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti dieqneis oikoi ajiologhshs milane hdh gia piqanh ypobaqmish ths pistolhptikhs ikanothtas ths Elladas, anaferontas malista oti to elleimma anebhke to 2008 panw apo to 3,5% toy AEP.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa. Profanws den egine safes, oyte se esas, ayto to opoio qelw na pw.

KAKALHS: Qa qelame poly na symmeristoyme ayth thn eyaisqhsia, alla prepei na apantate kai sta pragmatika dedomena. Pws sxoliazete th sygkekrimenh...

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh den sxoliazete ta zhthmata poy aforoyn thn Oikonomia kai me ta omologa...

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Sxoliazw para poly kala ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn thn Oikonomia. Profanws, den dinw ta sxolia, ta opoia eseis qelete. Ayto einai diko sas qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wraia. Na pame tote se ena allo qema. Einai poly prosfato, einai poly zwntano, poly live opws leme emeis sthn thleoptikh piatsa. Gia thn ypoqesh pleisthriasmoy ths patrikhs oikias toy k. Laliwth kai bebaiws thn anabiwsh ths kontras toy me ton epitimo Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias, k. Mhtsotakh. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai poly aplh: Oi nomoi kai oi dikastikes apofaseis prepei na ginontai sebastes apo oloys.

KAKARNIAS: Meta th Diypoyrgikh gia thn Oikonomia, eiste se qesh na epibebaiwsete h na diaceysete ta osa grafontai peri systashs epitropwn gia thn Paideia, ta koinwnika qemata klp.;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw ti grafetai. Eilikrina den jerw, exw stamathsei orismena pragmata na ta diabazw, dioti jerete merikes fores (diabazontas kai kapoia dhmosieymata) moy dhmioyrgeitai h entypwsh oti briskomai, isws, se allh kybernhsh, h opoia leitoyrgei kai pairnei apofaseis kai oxi sthn kybernhsh thn opoian egw yphretw. Sas eipa oti se eikotologies den apantw kai den exw proqesh na apantw kai na topoqetoymai.

KALARITHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate kai se ayto to qema kai sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh poy egine gia to an epikeintai allages ston kratiko mhxanismo me tropo kapws apajiwtiko, einai kako na ginoyn allages ston kratiko mhxanismo h na systaqei mia epitroph gia thn Paideia, opws egine ayth gia thn Oikonomia;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy kako den einai na lambanontai prwtoboylies apo thn kybernhsh. Alla afhste thn kybernhsh na pairnei prwtoboylies. H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, pairnei tis prwtoboylies monh ths, dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy, me apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws egine sthn oikonomikh epitroph. To na prospaqoyn orismenoi na ekmaieysoyn h na dwsoyn thn entypwsh oti epikeitai to ena h to allo, den ejyphretei kati.

KAKALHS: Exei parei h kybernhsh kapoia prwtoboylia h prokeitai na parei gia to gegonos oti h ptwsh twn epitokiwn toy eyrw den ftanei stoys daneiolhptes, ejaitias toy gegonotos oti oi trapezes ayjanoyn to periqwrio kerdoys;

ANTWNAROS: Exw analysei se ayth thn aiqoysa, polles fores, to gnwrizete allwste, to qema ths stenothtos xrhmatos poy parathreitai oxi mono sth dikh mas xwra, alla paneyrwpaika, pagkosmia qa elega.

KAKALHS: Gia logariasmo twn trapezwn qa apologhqeite;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy. Ayto den to exw kanei pote.

KAKALHS: Synexeia.

ANTWNAROS: An qelete na moy kanete proswpikes epiqeseis, einai dikaiwma sas.

KAKALHS: Oxi, den einai kaqoloy proswpikes. San Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo sas rwtw. Lew, exei parei kapoia prwtoboylia h kybernhsh gia ayto to qema; Einai tromero qema. Exoyn pesei ta epitokia se tetoio pososto kai den exei kaqoloy metaferqei stoys daneiolhptes, oyte sta stegastika daneia, oyte poyqena. H kybernhsh ti kanei dhladh; Qa parakoloyqei san qeaths ayth thn katastash;

ANTWNAROS: Exw analysei epaneilhmmenws to qema ayto, me mia proseggish poy deixnei oti h Ellada kai se ayto to qema den einai jekommenh apo ton ypoloipo kosmo. H stenothta toy xrhmatos kai ta ychla epitokia einai ena qema poy apasxolei oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs entos kai ektos ths eyrwzwnhs. Opoios parakoloyqei tis dieqneis ejelijeis, to diapistwnei. To diapistwnei apo dhmosieymata twn jenoglwsswn Meswn Enhmerwshs. To diapistwnei epishs apo topoqethseis politikwn, oikonomologwn, paragontwn se olo ton eyrwpaiko -- kai oxi mono -- xwro. H kybernhsh, loipon, exei analabei sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy kai ekeinh na symbalei kata to metro toy dikoy ths dynatoy, wste oi ptwseis, oi meiwseis twn epitokiwn bashs toy eyrw na perasoyn kai stoys polites. Alla yparxoyn sygkekrimena problhmata. Ayta einai gnwsta se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Loipon, opoios leei oti den ginetai tipota h den katalabainei h kanei oti den katalabainei.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, giati dwsate ta 28 dis stis trapezes; Gia na ayjhsete thn reystothta den ta dwsate; Ayto poy fainetai stoys telikoys apodektes;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora, nomizw einai h penthkosth se ayth thn aiqoysa, oti h kybernhsh den edwse 28 dis. eyrw stis trapezes.

KAKALHS: Ta xarise. Kai tote ta xarizete;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa synexisw dystyxws ton aparadekto ayto tropo me ton opoio prospaqeite na kanete dialogo.

KAKALHS: Apodeijte to antiqeto.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw.

KAKALHS: Poy exei fanei kapoia eynoikh epiptwsh sthn agora apo ayth thn kinhsh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Ean qelete na kanete dialogo, parakalw na pate se allo xwro. Edw einai xwros ypobolhs erwthsewn.

KAKALHS: (den akoygetai). Qa me diwjete;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai oxi.

KAKALHS: Ti einai ayta ta pragmata poy lete;

ANTWNAROS: Alla qa moy epitrecete omws na oloklhrwnw thn apanthsh moy...

KAKALHS: Safws.

ANTWNAROS: ... kai oxi sth mesh ths frashs na epembainete kai na kanete diafores parathrhseis.

TSIOYFOS: Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na epanaferei to aforologhto stoys eleyqeroys epaggelmaties, opws kapoies plhrofories anaferoyn aytes tis meres;

ANTWNAROS: Sxoliasa hdh.

TSIOYFOS: Oxi to sygkekrimeno. An h apanthsh...

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h idia apanthsh poy exw dwsei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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