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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 21 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 171035979

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 21 Noembrioy 2008

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Synedriase apo tis 18 mexri tis 20 Noembrioy stis Bryjelles to Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias kai Alieias ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sto opoio th xwra mas ekproswphse o Ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn k. Alejandros Kontos, synodeyomenos apo ton Geniko Grammatea.

Meta apo olonykties sklhres diapragmateyseis, to Symboylio yioqethse xqes telikh symbibastikh protash gia to legomeno ``Elegxo Ygeias'' ths Koinhs Agrotikhs Politikhs.

Sto plaisio ayths ths diapragmateyshs kai meta apo epimones kai polymhnes prospaqeies toy Ypoyrgoy k. Kontoy, anedeixqh to qema toy kapnoy, to opoio kai symperielhfqh telika ston teliko symbibasmo, paroti apoysiaze pantelws apo thn arxikh protash ths Epitrophs kai antimetwpize thn arnhtikh stash pollwn kratwn  melwn.

Me thn apofash ayth toy Symboylioy, oysiastika ston tomea toy kapnoy synexizetai h katabolh, se oloys toys kapnoparagwgoys, toy synoloy twn porwn toy tomea, mexri to etos 2013.

Sygkekrimena, poso poy jeperna to 70% toy synoloy ths enisxyshs, qa kataballetai amesa mexri to 2013 se oloys toys kapnoparagwgoys, to de ypoloipo qa apodidetai mesa apo programmata agrotikhs anaptyjhs.

Sthn katartish twn anwterw programmatwn, h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, me dhlwsh ths, desmeythke oti qa syndramei tis yphresies toy Ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn. H dhlwsh ayth perilambanetai epishs sthn apofash toy Symboylioy.

Syzhthqhkan kai alla qemata, me qetikh ekbash gia ta ellhnika symferonta, gia ta symferonta twn Ellhnwn agrotwn kai kthnotrofwn kai meta thn oloklhrwsh twn diaboyleysewn, o k. Kontos dhlwse, metajy twn allwn, oti qemata ejairetika dyskola kai eyaisqhta, opws ayto toy kapnoy, ta antimetwpise h kybernhsh apotelesmatika kai me thn prepoysa ypeyqynothta. Gia allh mia fora, h kybernhsh diabebaiwnei toys kapnoparagwgoys ths xwras, oti to synolo twn enisxysewn toy tomea qa toys apodidetai, opws sas eipa kai prohgoymenws, ews to etos 2013, gegonos poy epibebaiwnetai allwste apo th xqesinh politikh symfwnia toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei ena dhmosieyma shmera, sthn efhmerida ``Paraskeyh kai 13'', poy kanei logo gia treis boyleytes, epifoboys na xrhmatistoyn gia na rijoyn thn kybernhsh. Poia einai h qesh sas;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw, opws gnwrizete, dhmosieymata. Ola ayta einai asteiothtes. Den mporw na dianohqw oti yparxei o opoiosdhpote boyleyths toy Ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, opoiosdhpote eklegmenos ekproswpos twn Ellhnwn politwn, poy qa mporoyse na ginei antikeimeno mias tetoias diergasias.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera kata thn episkech toy sto nosokomeio ``Attiko'', o k. Papandreoy kathgorhse thn kybernhsh oti apajiwse, ypobaqmise kai syrriknwse ena shmantikotato nosokomeio gia thn periqalch ths ygeias twn laikwn tajewn kai eidikotera aytwn ths Dytikhs Attikhs. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: An qymamai kala apo enhmerwsh poy exw apo to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias, h shmerinh kybernhsh parelabe to ``Attiko Nosokomeio'' me ena pososto leitoyrgias 25% h 30%, isws kai ligotero kai to exei fqasei sto 90%. Qa moy epitrecete gia leptomerestera stoixeia na sas parapemcw, bebaiws, sto Ypoyrgeio Ygeias gia na exete ola ta stoixeia apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo. Qa hqela, omws, na pw oti kai h shmerinh episkech thn opoia ekane o k. Papandreoy, entassetai bebaiws sthn prospaqeia proklhshs proskairwn entypwsewn, tis opoies prospaqei na kallierghsei, anepityxws qa elega. Kai ola ayta ginontai mesa se ena klima mhdenismoy poy profanws kalliergei to PASOK. To PASOK einai gnwsto oti se oles tis megales prwtoboylies twn teleytaiwn etwn htan apon. Teleytaia apoysia h xqesinh, h chfish toy sxedioy gia thn enisxysh ths reystothtas sthn ellhnikh oikonomia. Proteleytaio, to Asfalistiko. Na pame ligo pio makria; H syntagmatikh metarryqmish, opoy to PASOK eipe kai jeipe meta apo ligo kairo. Kai na sas qymisw akomh kai th mh paroysia toy stis megales allages poy apofasisthkan kai efarmozontai me epityxia sthn Paideia. Apon, loipon, to PASOK.

GARGALAKOS: Apo thn Deytera anamenetai na enskhcei baryxeimwnia sth xwra kai to epidoma qermanshs akoma den exei doqei. Qa doqei telika to epidoma qermanshs; Pote kai poioys qa afora;

ANTWNAROS: Einai ena qema gia to opoio h kybernhsh exei desmeyqei. Molis proxqes, anaferqhke se ayto o Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete. Sas parakalw na apeyqynqeite sta synarmodia Ypoyrgeia gia na sas dwsoyn oles tis aparaithtes leptomereies.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws sxoliazete thn anadiplwsh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs se o,ti afora th systash Proanakritikhs Epitrophs; Xqes, akoysa ton k. Ragkoysh na leei oti ean den yparxoyn eparkh, eparkestata stoixeia, to PASOK den qa kataqesei protash gia Proanakritikh, akomh kai gia proswpa poy mporei sto parelqon na eixe ypobalei.

ANTWNAROS: Einai poly aplo: To PASOK antilambanetai to megalo olisqhma, to opoio ekane, estw kai kaqysterhmena. Den qa elega oti einai apolytws ikanopoihtiko ayto. Alla, gia mia akomh fora, apodeiknyei to PASOK oti biazetai na kanei protaseis, oi opoies den exoyn kanena antikeimeno kai twra, me kaqysterhsh tis mazeyei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes, apanthse stis dikes sas proklhseis o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK k. Papakwnstantinoy. Apla, poia einai h dikh sas apoch;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den qa xrhsimopoihsw, bebaiws, tis apajiwtikes ekfraseis me tis opoies prospaqhse o k. Papakwnstantinoy xqes na xarakthrisei osa sygkekrimena eipa s` ayton edw to xwro. Qa elega mono oti o idios exei poly anhforo akomh na dianysei, an qelei na dwsei apanthseis. Otan diabasei kapoios osa eipe o k. Papakwnstantinoy proxqes, sthn enhmerwsh poy ekane stoys dhmosiografoys kai osa eipe xqes sta kanalia poy bghke, prokyptei - -den qelw na pw th lejh ``cema''- - mia profanhs antifash, mia anakoloyqia. Sygkekrimena: Milwntas xqes sto kentriko deltio toy Alter kai meta apo erwthsh toy synadelfoys sas Akh Paylopoyloy, o opoios ton rwthse ``sas efere ta onomata o Papistas;'', o k. Papakwnstantinoy apanta epi lejei ``Epanalambanomaste. Sas eipa oti o k. Papistas den moy anefere onomata. To eipe kai o idios oti den anefere onomata''. Pame mia hmera pisw, proxqes. Sthn enhmerwsh poy ekane stoys dhmosiografoys o k. Papakwnstantinoy kai ths opoias h apomagnhtofwnhsh exei anarthqei apo ekeinh thn hmera ston istotopo toy PASOK. Erwtatai apo allo synadelfo sas kai apanta: ``Eilikrinws sas lew oti otan me episkefqhke kai moy ejhghse'' - -ennoei ton Papista- - ``thn istoria ayth, oyte ta onomata poy moy anefere, oyte h olh ypoqesh, opws moy thn periegrace... '' kai synexizei. Synepws, tote, dyo hmeres prin, anefere oti toy eipan onomata. Poy einai h alhqeia; Ti na pistecei kaneis, otan kapoios leei kati th mia hmera kai jeleei thn allh; Oi erwthseis, loipon, gi` ayto to pelwrio hqiko kai politiko qema, paramenoyn. Kai ikanopoihtikes apanthseis den exoyn erqei.

GARGALAKOS: Den exei apanthsei peistika o k. Papistas ep` aytoy, poy leei sthn anakoinwsh toy oti den anefere onomata ston k. Papakwnstantinoy; Allwste, o k. Papistas einai aytos poy oysiastika ebgale anajiopisth th martyra poy anefere to onoma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Kai einai kai gnwsto oti den anhkei kai sto xwro toy PASOK.

ANTWNAROS: Egw anaferqhka ston k. Papakwnstantinoy.

GARGALAKOS: Nai, alla o k. Papistas o idios leei oti den eipe onomata ston k. Papakwnstantinoy kai oyte o k. Papakwnstantinoy eide to binteo.

ANTWNAROS: Xairomai poy symfwneite mazi moy se ayto to opoio lew. Einai loipon polla ta kena se ayth thn periergh istoria, se ayto to koino enoxo mystiko, poy deixnei na moirazetai o ekproswpos toy k. Papandreoy me ton syntopith toy epixeirhmatia. Perimenoyme tis apanthseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw, giati xqes kat` arxhn yposthrije oti ayta poy eipate apo ayto edw to bhma htan saxlamares kai afeteroy, se o,ti afora tis sxeseis toy me ton Papista, eipe oti ton exei dei treis-tesseris fores - -an qymamai kala- - san epixeirhmatia, xwris tipote allo. Ypainisseste eseis, giati nomizw oti rwthqhke kai o idios kai exete tekmhria, apodeijeis oti o k. Papistas einai xrhmatodoths toy k. Papakwnstantinoy;

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn pleyra moy, perimenw apanthseis stis erwthseis tis opoies ypebala kai proxqes kai xqes kai shmera ston k. Papakwnstantinoy. Epanalambanw: Ta kena se osa exei pei o k. Papakwnstantinoy einai polla.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxoyn kai alla qemata gia paradeigma sto kaqayto - - an moy epitrepetai h dikh moy h apoch- - skandalo ths Monhs Batopaidioy anaferqhkan xqes dyo boyleytes sas. Sygkekrimena, o k. Flwrinhs kai o k. Bagenas, ek twn opoiwn o k. Flwrinhs malista eipe oti ``den jerw ti ypegracan oi Ypoyrgoi ths Kybernhshs sas, alla den dexomai oti paraplanhqhkan''. Prepei na jeroyn ti ypografoyn. Nomizw oti h qewria sthn opoia exete sthrixqei ws kybernhsh einai oti oi Ypoyrgoi, endexomenws, paraplanhqhkan. Eseis ti lete;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati gia thn oysia oswn diameibontai h gia osa prokyptoyn kata th diarkeia ths leitoyrgias ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Sas ypenqymizw, gia mia akomh fora, oti einai h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias ekeinh h opoia zhthse th systash ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Einai ekeinh h opoia perimenei thn oloklhrwsh twn ergasiwn ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Einai ekeinh h opoia symprattei me toys boyleytes ths poy einai parontes sthn eyryqmh, acogh, apotelesmatikh leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Kai qa sas qymisw oti xqes, apo o,ti me plhroforhsan, oi boyleytes toy PASOK poy einai melh ths Epitrophs, ta exasan otan akoysan thn omofwnh apofash twn boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, poy apodexqhkan thn protash toy Proedroy ths Epitrophs k. Markogiannakh, gia apodoxh 15 newn martyrwn poy eixe proteinei to PASOK. Qymaste oti molis mia mera prin, oloi elegan oti h kybernhtikh pleiochfia sthn Epitroph den qa symfwnoyse sthn klhsh newn martyrwn. Emeis symfwnoyme sthn klhsh martyrwn me mia diafora: Diapistwnoyme oti h epimonh twn boyleytwn toy PASOK na kalei neoys martyres synexws kai neoys martyres apo toys opoioys orismenoi apedeixqhsan oxi ajiopistoi h oti einai entelws asxetoi me thn ypoqesh, fanerwnei ena pragma: Ekeinoi poy qeloyn na eytelisoyn th leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs h na parateinoyn ep` aoriston th leitoyrgia ths, einai oi boyleytes toy PASOK.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws ginetai na sxoliazete ta ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs kata to dokoyn; Edw mas lete gia toys neoys martyres poy zhtoyn oi boyleytes toy PASOK, mas lete gia mia seira apo pragmata kai sas rwtaw xqes, ean qa prepei na doqoyn sth dhmosiothta oi logariasmoi toy Efraim kai moy lete oti einai qema ths Ejetastikhs. Qelete na mas peite ti sxoliazete telika; Mono ayta poy symferoyn thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sxoliazw politika, alla oxi diadikastika. Ean den to antilambaneste, den mporw na kanw kati.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: To qema twn martyrwn einai qema poy afora thn kybernhsh h thn Ejetastikh Epitroph;

ANTWNAROS: Einai qema poy afora kai thn koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia, opws to eipa.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ara, opws to ermhneyete.

ANTWNAROS : Dexqeite tis dhlwseis moy, opws tis kanw. Oi sxoliasmoi einai dikoi sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei ena qema me th Monh Toploy kai malista meta thn paraggelia poy dietaje o k. Sanidas na ginei ereyna sxetika me tessera adikhmata poy diepraxqhsan leei apo toys monaxoys, alla kai kratikoys leitoyrgoys. Telika ti symbainei me ayth thn istoria; Exoyme afhsei genika toys monaxoys na alwnizoyn kai na ayjanoyn ta akinhta toys;

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete apo emena na kanw kati poy den exw kanei pote; Na sxoliasw mia ereyna thn opoia dietaje h Dikaiosynh; Asfalws kai den qa to prajw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gi` ayto kai to sxolio moy afora sto pws telika afhnetai genikotera as poyme h aisqhsh oti yparxoyn skandala me ta akinhta apo diafores Mones, th Monh Batopaidioy, th Monh Toploy twra sthn Krhth.

ANTWNAROS: Ypoqeseis yparxoyn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai ereynes hdh.

ANTWNAROS: H ereyna den shmainei opwsdhpote skandalo.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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