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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 23 Oktwbrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 165828349

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 23 Oktwbrioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh qewrw oti kai h kybernhsh kai eseis proswpika, den qelete na aiwroyntai fhmes kai na dhmioyrgeitai mia atmosfaira periergh, qelw na rwthsw eyqews: Tiqetai qema paraithshs toy k. Roysopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero ap` osa sas exw pei tis teleytaies hmeres. Qa epanalabw o,ti eipa xqes: Stis idies erwthseis dinw tis idies apanthseis.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, telika ayrio, h Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias qa dwsei to parwn sth Boylh, kata thn chfoforia gia thn Proanakritikh Epitroph gia to Batopaidi;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs exei diatypwsei, thn perasmenh ebdomada, opws gnwrizete, kata th diarkeia ths synenteyjhs Typoy thn opoia edwse meta th Synodo toy Symboylioy Koryfhs stis Bryjelles, me krystallinh safhneia, th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Th qesh ayth, qa sas thn epanalabw gia osoys den thn qymoyntai: Thn ypoqesh prepei na ereynhsei, symfwna me prwtoboylia thn opoia anelaban o idios o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai chfisthke xqes sth Boylh, mia Ejetastikh Epitroph, h opoia qa diereynhsei parallhla me thn ereyna poy kanei h Dikaiosynh, thn ypoqesh se baqos. Kai ws pros thn oysia kai ws pros to baqos xronoy. Kai anaferomai sto parelqon. Apo kei kai pera, leei o Prwqypoyrgos, h proanakrish exei mia basikh proypoqesh. To na exei stoixeioqethqei nomika oti yparxei poiniko adikhma h pantws oti yparxoyn isxyres endeijeis -opws leei h nomikh glwssa ``apoxrwses endeijeis''- kai malista na syndeetai basei stoixeiwn to telesqen adikhma, efoson yparxei, me sygkekrimena proswpa. Ayto shmera den yparxei. Prepei, dhladh, na yparxei mia logikh kai nomikh allhloyxia. Ola ta alla poy legontai shmera gia Proanakritikh Epitroph, den einai tipote allo, para paixnidia entypwsewn kai malista proskairwn entypwsewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati o Prwqypoyrgos den parabreqhke xqes sth syzhthsh sth Boylh;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs, poy einai safhs qesh, epejhghqhke me ton pio jekaqaro tropo, katanohto apo oloys, apo shmainonta stelexh, apo Ypoyrgoys, apo boyleytes. Kai sas ypenqymizw oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai ekeinos, o opoios eixe analabei thn prwtoboylia gia thn Ejetastikh. Den antilambanomai to eidos kai to periexomeno ths erwthshs sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Doqhke h ermhneia oti hqele na krathsei apostaseis apo ton ekproswpo toy.

ANTWNAROS: Ayqairetes ermhneies, poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

MIXAHL: Mas epanalabate th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis Bryjelles kai sxoliasate, mallon katalhjate opws eixe pei kai o k. Prwqypoyrgos, oti einai proskaires entypwseis oson afora thn Proanakritikh. Entoytois to qema exei katateqei. Brisketai sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn ths Boylhs. Ayrio h Koinoboyleytikh sas Omada qa paei kai qa katachfisei thn protash ayth, gia na isxysei olo ayto to skeptiko poy leei o k. Karamanlhs h den qa parabreqei kaqoloy, qelontas na mhn nomimopoihsei mia tetoia diadikasia;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na sas pw, to eipa.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Sebomai apolyta to gegonos, afoy to leei h kybernhsh, oti efoson den prokyptoyn stoixeia kata enos proswpoy, opoio kai an einai ayto, den yparxei logos na ginoyn peraiterw pragmata. Wstoso, anqrwpoi ajiopistoi poy exoyn dokimastei sth dhmosiografikh agora edw kai para polla xronia, poy den mporei na toys kathgorhsei kaneis gia apostaseis apo to kybernwn komma, opws o Dhmhtrhs Rizos, eipe xqes se thleoptikh ekpomph dhmosiws, oti exei plhrofories apo poly ychla istamena proswpa, oti ``o k. Roysopoylos syntonize olh thn istoria''. Einai dika toy logia, den einai dika moy, den ta yioqetw. Ola ayta poy akoygontai, esas den sas problhmatizoyn, den sas anhsyxoyn; Den prepei na rixqei kapoio fws se ayth thn istoria;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton: H omilia toy k. Roysopoyloy, ta epixeirhmata ta opoia xrhsimopoihse, ta stoixeia ta opoia pareqese, den afhnoyn kamia amfibolia gia thn prospaqeia spilwshs kai sykofanthshs, h opoia epixeireitai. Deyteron: Legame mexri twra oti prepei na erqei h dikografia sth Boylh, giati osa perilambanei to aithma gia systash Proanakritikhs Epitrophs opws legetai -den einai swstos o oros alla aytos einai poy xrhsimopoieitai- apo to PASOK, ta stoixeia ayta einai eikasies, einai isxyrismoi asthriktoi. Hrqe h dikografia. Megala tmhmata ths dikografias dhmosieyontai shmera ston hmerhsio Typo. Twra, ofeilei to PASOK na pei poy sthrizei, se poia stoixeia ths dikografias thn opoia epikaleito, poy sthrizei aytoys toys isxyrismoys toy. Egw lew toys ewloys isxyrismoys toy, toys asthriktoys isxyrismoys toy. H apanthsh einai aplh: Den yparxoyn stoixeia. Kai etsi apodeiknyetai gia mia akomh fora ayto poy eipwqhke xqes, apo oloys toys omilhtes toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toy kybernhtikoy xwroy, ayto poy einai jekaqaro. Oti to PASOK exei ena kai monadiko stoxo: Na spilwsei proswpa, na katasykofanthsei foreis kai na trwsei, dhqen, to kyros ths kybernhshs. H prospaqeia ayth h organwmenh, kakoorganwmenh qa elega, toy PASOK, peftei sto keno.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Ma egw den epikalesthka kanena apo ta epixeirhmata toy PASOK. Egw epikalesthka enan apolyta ajiopisto dhmosiografo, me 40 etwn poreia, o opoios leei oti stelexh toy kybernwntos kommatos toy eipan. Apo ekei exei thn plhroforia.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa sxoliasw kanenan dhmosiografo poy diatypwnei sxolia. Opoios exei plhrofories, den exei para na tis kataqesei. Egw ekeino to opoio jerw, einai oti mexri xqes legane oloi gia th dikografia. Erxetai h dikografia. As mas poyn aytoi poy epikaloyntai th dikografia, poy sthrizontai oi kathgories, oi isxyrismoi -giati oyte kan peri kathgoriwn ypo thn nomikh ennoia prokeitai, asthriktoi isxyrismoi einai lew egw- toys opoioys diatypwnei sto aithma toy, to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Egw den ta briskw poyqena ta stoixeia ayta.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kalws h kakws, ena apo ta prwta qemata ths epikairothtas einai h paraithsh h oxi toy k. Roysopoyloy. Efoson den tekmhriwnontai me stoixeia oi kathgories ths antipoliteyshs, giati den mas kleinete shmera to qema kai na peite oti den yparxei qema paraithshs toy ekproswpoy ths kybernhshs. Kai egw qelw na rwthsw kai kati allo: Yparxei sth diaqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy h paraithsh toy k. Roysopoyloy h oxi, opws exei akoystei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti stis erwthseis poy kat` epanalhch moy exoyn teqei se ayto to xwro, didontai akribws oi idies apanthseis, tis opoies exw dwsei.

FANIDHS: Ta dedomena allazoyn omws.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas lew oti stis idies erwthseis, dinw tis idies apanthseis. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KALARITHS: Epeidh parapemcate stis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis Bryjelles, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei oti den yparxoyn stoixeia, mexri stigmhs, poy na (den akoygetai) poinikes eyqynes Ypoyrgwn. Ara, yponoeite oti den yparxei logos gia systash Proanakritikhs Epitrophs. Parola ayta, h Nea Dhmokratia qa meinei sth syzhthsh kai sthn chfoforia h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei ayto akribws to opoio eipa. Opws to eipa. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

MIXAHL: Kathgorhsate to PASOK oti stoxo exei na spilwsei, na sykofanthsei, na trwsei foreis, na trwsei thn kybernhsh. Kai to kaleitai na apanthsei shmera, poy sthrizei aytoys toys isxyrismoys, toys ewloys poy lete eseis. Qelw na sas rwthsw, loipon, ean qelei na spilwsei proswpa o Mhtropoliths Janqhs, o opoios kataqetei epwnymws kai anaferetai ston k. Roysopoylo, ean oi dyo alloi martyres poy anaferontai ston k. Roysopoylo sthn kataqesh toys ston Eisaggelea exoyn stoxo th spilwsh toy proswpoy toy.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio anaferw einai poly safes, alla profanws to mhnyma ayto poy qelw na pw, den eftase se esas. Lew loipon, qa to epanalabw, oti ta osa perilambanontai sto aithma gia systash ths, legomenhs, Proanakritikhs Epitrophs apo to PASOK, den sthrizontai se stoixeia. Kai ws ek toytoy einai ewla.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mhpws sas diafeygei oti h ypoqesh ths ejetastikhs jekinhse apo thn ereyna twn triwn eisaggelewn, oi opoioi kai oi treis qewroyn oti yparxei emplokh politikwn proswpwn poy prepei na diereynhqoyn peraiterw oi piqanes eyqynes toys; Eseis exete gnwsh ths dikografias kai toys aqwwnete ek twn proterwn;

ANTWNAROS: Diabazw opws ki eseis. Kai eimai bebaios, oti synadelfoi sas dhmosiografoi oi opoioi shmera dhmosieyoyn apospasmata toy fakeloy ths dikografias, ean eixan brei stoixeia, asfalws qa eixan epilejei na ta dhmosieysoyn.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara, eseis anaireite, akyrwnete kai toys Eisaggeleis; Oi Eisaggeleis eferan to fakelo sth Boylh, oxi oi dhmosiografoi.

ANTWNAROS: Peite moy akribws ti isxyristhkate;

GKOYTZANHS: Eipa oti jekinhse h ypoqesh ths ejetastikhs apo thn ereyna twn triwn Eisaggelewn, oi opoioi symfwnhsan oti o fakelos ths ypoqeshs prepei na diabibastei sth Boylh gia na diereynhqoyn peraiterw oi piqanes eyqynes politikwn proswpwn.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

GKOYTZANHS: Eseis pws toys aqwwnete ek twn proterwn ayta ta politika proswpa;

ANTWNAROS: H epistolh paraithshs twn dyo eisaggelewn thn opoia diabasa ston Typo den anaferetai se ayta ta opoia lete. Exei allh fraseologia. Qa moy epitrecete na sas systhsw na thn parete kai na th diabasete.

GKOYTZANHS: Thn exw diabasei kai qymamai kiolas oti eixe sbhstei me Blanco ``twn melwn ths kybernhshs'' kai ``twn Ypoyrgwn''.

TSIOYFOS: Otan kai xqes kai proxqes mallon, h trith eisaggeleas zhtaei na diabibastei h dikografia sth Boylh kai ejaitias ayths ths anaforas ths pros ton k. Sanida, diabibazetai h dikografia, otan treis Eisaggeleis zhtane th diabibash ths dikografias, den shmainei oti diablepoyn, diapistwnoyn piqanon kai kapoies poinikes eyqynes ypoyrgwn; An htan mono gia politikes den qa th diabibazane.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas eipa. Pedio lampro: Ejetastikh Epitroph.

TSIOYFOS: Den diapistwqhke xqes.

ANTWNAROS: H Ejetastikh Epitroph opws asfalws qa diapistwsate apo tis dieykriniseis poy ekane ws pros tis armodiothtes ths o Proedros ths Boylhs k. Sioyfas sto telos ths xqesinhs synedriashs, qa apartizetai apo empeira melh toy Koinoboylioy kai me nomikes gnwseis kai qa exei th dynatothta kata th diarkeia ths leitoyrgias ths -gia enamish mhna, nomizw, protaqhke- na kanei thn ereyna h opoia apaiteitai se baqos. Profanws den ginetai safes ayto. Kai an katalhjei oti yparxoyn stoixeia gia poinikes eyqynes, emeis ti leme; Na paei sthn Proanakritikh Epitroph. To PASOK paei antiqeta. To PASOK diapistwnei ek prooimioy eyqynes.

TSIOYFOS: (Den akoygetai).

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, sas parakalw. Egw anaferomai sto PASOK. To PASOK exei kataqesei th sygkekrimenh protash kai katalhgei prwqystera aney logoy, xwris nomikh bash, xwris nomikh epixeirhmatologia se eyqynes. Katalogizei eyqynes, apodidei kathgories. Tetoio pragma den yparxei. Na ginei h ereyna se baqos ths Ejetastikhs. Poios den th qelei;

TSIOYFOS: Apo monh ths h Proanakritikh den shmainei apodosh eyqynwn. Shmainei diereynhsh. Ayto den shmainei; Kanw laqos;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws kanete oti den antilambaneste ti sas lew.

TSIOYFOS: Kanw laqos;

ANTWNAROS: Einai safes ayto to opoio lew: Sas lew oti to aithma toy PASOK gia systash ths legomenhs Proanakritikhs Epitrophs perilambanei, san na yphrxan, qesfates kathgories.

TSIOYFOS: Diereynhsh kathgoriwn.

ANTWNAROS: Menw sta nomika epixeirhmata. Den exw kati allo na pw. Einai safes.

FOYRLHS: Qa mporoysate na mas peite ean o Prwqypoyrgos qa paei thn Paraskeyh sth Boylh h oxi kai pali; Kai qa mporoysate na mas peite, an eiste se qesh bebaia, akoyw, pros to paron toylaxiston, an exei apofasistei poia qa einai h stash toy kybernwntos kommatos.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka se antistoixh erwthsh prin erqete. Isxyei h apanthsh moy.

MIXAHL: Qa ginei to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy to Sabbato sto Katar;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa sas eipa proxqes.

MPOTSARHS: To periexomeno ths omilias toy k. Roysopoyloy, ikanopoihse to synolo ths kybernhshs alla kai ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka gia thn omilia toy k. Roysopoyloy me tropo o opoios den nomizw oti afhnei kamia amfibolia ws pros to periexomeno ths kai ta epixeirhmata ta opoia xrhsimopoihse.

MPOTSARHS: Dhladh, ikanopoihsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, nomizw oti eipate prohgoymenws, pws to PASOK biazetai na katalogisei eyqynes, alla ki eseis biazeste na aqwwsete. Egw qa sas qymisw oti h diadikasia  an th qymamai swsta kai den exei allajei- einai oti kai h Proanakritikh Epitroph me pio ejatomikeymenh th diereynhsh twn piqanwn eyqynwn, katalhgei sto an yparxoyn endeijeis gia parapomph. Kai einai allo to organo to opoio qa apofasisei ean yparxoyn ontws oi apoxrwses endeijeis wste na ginei kai h parapomph.

ANTWNAROS: Einai safh ayta ta opoia eipa. Den exw na pw kati allo. Anaferomai sto sxetiko aithma, to opoio einai gnwsto ti periexei kai to opoio den exei kamia nomikh bash. Ta epixeirhmata toy PASOK einai ewla.

MANH: Shmera mporeite na moy sxoliasete thn kinhsh toy k. Sanida na steilei hmitelh dikografia sth Boylh, enw olo to prohgoymeno diasthma elege oti den mporei na to prajei ean den systaqei prwta Ejetastikh kai an den toy zhthqei epishmws;

ANTWNAROS: Ti sas kanei na pisteyete oti qa allajw thn pagia qesh thn opoia exw na mh sxoliazw th leitoyrgia ths anejarthths Dikaiosynhs.

MANH: Kai h kybernhsh elege oti einai parabiash toy Syntagmatos na erqei h dikografia sth Boylh ean den zhthqei me ton tropo poy prepei apo ta organa poy prepei kai sto xrono poy prepei.

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei oti ta stoixeia einai ekei, opoia stoixeia yparxoyn, to synolo ths dikografias. Ayto den hqelan oloi;

MANH: Mexri stigmhs.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws den ginetai antilhpto, qa to janapw gia mia akomh fora. H stash ths kybernhshs einai safhs. Arxizei h leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, opws ayth apofasisthke xqes to brady apo ola ta kommata ths Boylhs. Taytoxrona synexizetai h diereynhsh ths ypoqeshs apo th Dikaiosynh. Mhn to jexnate ayto. Synepws sth Boylh einai aytonohto oti exoyn paei osa stoixeia yparxoyn mexri stigmhs. Pws mporoyn na pane ayta ta opoia endexomenws qa prokycoyn me kataqeseis oi opoies qa ginoyn ayrio, meqayrio, se mia ebdomada, enwpion ths Dikaiosynhs;

MIXAHL: Ayta den qa pane;

ANTWNAROS: Rwtate emena pws qa leitoyrghsei h Dikaiosynh;

MIXAHL: Eseis lete th qesh sas. H Dikaiosynh qa kanei th doyleia ths. O,ti brei qa ta steilei sthn Ejetastikh;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthste th Dikaiosynh.

MIXAHL: Malista. Kati allo akomh. Pws diasfalizetai me th qesh ths kybernhshs oti den qa yparxei paragrafh;

ANTWNAROS: Ola ayta exoyn apanthqei me poly jekaqaro tropo.

MIXAHL: Den exei apanthqei. Mono me thn Proanakritikh leei to Syntagma kai o nomos.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei ikanos xronos wste na oloklhrwqoyn oi ergasies ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Kai sas eipa: Ean prokycoyn stoixeia, emeis prwtoi ta eipame, o Prwqypoyrgos to eipe, kai kriqei oti ta stoixeia ayta einai eparkh, na pame sthn Proanakritikh Epitroph. Poy blepete thn elleich xronoy;

MIXAHL: Den milhsa gia elleich xronoy. Sas eipa oti me th frash, th qesh ths kybernhshs oti h Ejetastikh Epitroph qa diereynhsei ta panta kai an prokycoyn stoixeia qa paei sthn Proanakritikh. Sas rwtw egw pws diasfalizetai mexri na prokycoyn ayta ta stoixeia, ean prokycoyn, oti den qa yparxei paragrafh. Ayto einai to erwthma, aplo. Kai to PASOK leei, kai ayto pairnei th qesh ayth, den kanw ton dikhgoro toy PASOK, leei: Mono me Proanakritikh Epitroph mporei na diasfalistei ayto. Kai etsi symfwnoyn kai ta ypoloipa kommata.

ANTWNAROS: Sas lew oti yparxei ikanos xronos gia th diereynhsh ths ypoqeshs se baqos, thn opoia emeis qeloyme, xwris kamia apolytws epifylajh.

MANH: Dhladh den qa ginoyn ekloges prin ton Ioynio;

ANTWNAROS: Pali ta idia; Den bareqhkate na rwtate ta idia kai ta idia;

FANIDHS: Gnwrizete giati o k. Roysopoylos epeleje na epiteqei proswpika ston k. Papandreoy, sto megalytero meros ths omilias toy;

ANTWNAROS: H apokwdikopoihsh kaqe omilias nomizw einai qema ths dikhs sas analytikhs ergasias.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Mhpws sas fainetai swfron se politiko epipedo na einai o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos ek twn elegxomenwn proswpwn mias tetoias diadikasias kai otan milaei na milaei ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, ws boyleyths, ws ti arage, otan leei ston arxhgo toy PASOK oti ``egw den gennhqhka isxyros'' se mia apostrofh ths omilias toy; Ekproswpei thn kybernhsh ayth h qesh h ekproswpei ton eayto toy;

ANTWNAROS: Ti einai ayta poy lete; O k. Roysopoylos eipe kai metajy twn allwn to ejhs ston arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs k. Papandreoy - sas parafrazw ayto, giati den exw ayth th stigmh mprosta moy thn omilia- oti o k. Papandreoy, ws arxhgos toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs exei ypogracei to aithma poy perilambanei aytes tis asthriktes momfes enantion toy. Den prepei na apeyqynqei, dhladh, o k. Roysopoylos h o opoiosdhpote apo toys alloys dyo dhqen elegxomenoys boyleytes -prwhn ypoyrgos kai nyn yfypoyrgos ths Neas Dhmokratias-ston k. Papandreoy; Qewreite oti o k. Papandreoy einai sto apyroblhto; Antiqetws malista.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Oxi bebaia. Ekproswpei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Papandreoy einai aytos o opoios ferei thn eyqynh gia toys ewloys isxyrismoys oi opoioi perilambanontai sto aithma toy PASOK.

GKOYTZANHS: Ws pros ayto, to ejhghse o k. Roysopoylos.

ANTWNAROS: To ejhgw ki egw gia mia akomh fora, giati profanws..

GKOYTZANHS: Ebale thn ypografh toy kai loipa.

ANTWNAROS: Xairomai poy exete diabasei thn omilia toy k. Roysopoyloy.

GKOYTZANHS: Fysika kai poly prosextika. Alla to erwthma jerete poio einai; Ekei poy eipe oti ``eseis k. Papandreoy eiste gios Prwqypoyrgoy ki egw eimai gios toy taxydromoy''. Sas qymizw oti o Prwqypoyrgos k. Karamanlhs einai epishs anicios Prwqypoyrgoy kai mias apo tis megales politikes oikogeneies. Mhpws dhmioyrgeitai etsi...

ANTWNAROS: Ti qelete na peite m ayto; Den antilambanomai kaqoloy ton ypainigmo.

GKOYTZANHS: Egw tipota. Einai safes.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Papandreoy kathgorei ton k. Roysopoylo gia kati sygkekrimeno. Ston k. Papandreoy apeyqynetai o k. Roysopoylos. Se kanenan allon, en prokeimenw.

GKOYTZANHS: To oti einai gios Prwqypoyrgoy den mporei na einai epixeirhma. Gioi Prwqypoyrgwn yparxoyn kai alloi sth Boylh.

KALARITHS: O Prwqypoyrgos giati den paresth xqes sth Boylh kai den milhse efoson h protash gia Ejetastikh Epitroph exei katateqei apo th Nea Dhmokratia;

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh hrqate ligo kaqysterhmenos eimai bebaios oti qa anagnwsete ta praktika ths shmerinhs enhmerwshs kai qa exete thn apanthsh poy xreiazeste.

Sas eyxaristw.

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