Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-09-03

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 3 Septembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 156963122

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 3 Septembrioy 2008

Xairete.

" Oloklhrwqhke h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs poy eixe monadiko qema thn eqnikh strathgikh gia thn Paideia. O Ypoyrgos Paideias k. Stylianidhs ayth thn wra kanei dhlwseis ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy, an den exoyn hdh oloklhrwqei. Eimai sth diaqesh sas gia opoiadhpote dieykrinish, ean nomizete oti yparxei kati sxetika me to qema.

" O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio to apogeyma, stis 19:30, qa apeyqynei xairetismo sthn teleth egkainiwn toy Moyseioy Gewastrofysikhs poy qa labei xwra stis egkatastaseis toy Eqnikoy Asteroskopeioy Aqhnwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Manwlhs prin apo ligo, milwntas ston ALPHA, eipe oti qa prepei na desmeyqoyn oloi oi ``pagwmenoi'' logariasmoi kai na doqoyn sto Tameio gia th Ftwxeia. Einai kai apoch ths kybernhshs ayth, h skech toy k. Manwlh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai protash thn opoia o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias ekane kai xqes -an den me apata h mnhmh moy- sth synedriash ths Boylhs. Apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn me plhroforhsan oti ayth h protash qa ejetastei me qetiko mati.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: H efhmerida to ``EQNOS'' shmera apokalyptei mia seira apo ntokoymenta, symfwna me ta opoia h Toyrkia prowqei toys laqrometanastes sthn Ellada. Ti qa kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, ti energeies prokeitai na kanei kai an en pash periptwsei dhmioyrgei ena megalytero qema ayth h istoria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw milhsei kai alles fores, se ayth thn aiqoysa gia ta qemata twn laqrometanastwn. Qa qymaste isws oti exoyme to megalytero, analogika me to megeqos ths xwras alla kai ton plhqysmo, ariqmo laqrometanastwn kat` etos. Perysi ftasame toys 112.000 laqrometanastes. H epanaprowqhsh einai mia diadikasia h opoia akoloyqeitai stis perissoteres twn periptwsewn. Ejairoyntai bebaiws oi periptwseis poy anaferontai se politiko asylo, opws katalabainete. Kata ta loipa, yparxei mia syzhthsh se ejelijh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, katopin protasews ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Karamanlh, gia th dhmioyrgia eyrwpaikhs aktofylakhs kai thn enisxysh ths fylajhs twn synorwn ta opoia exoyn xiliades xiliometra mhkos kai den einai eykolo na fylaxqoyn mono apo tis ellhnikes Arxes. To qema mas apasxolei, oxi mono ws pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, alla kai ws pros ta kentra ypodoxhs laqrometanastwn. Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyn ginei kainoyria kentra eisodoy laqrometanastwn kai etsi exei stamathsei h eikona ths xwras na einai kakh, ws pros ayta, sto ejwteriko. Qymaste oti sto parelqon eixame para polla dhmosieymata kai reportaz thleoptikwn staqmwn. H prospaqeia einai megalh. Einai ena megalo qema kai mono na analogistei kapoios ton ariqmo poy sas eipa: 112.000 se ena xrono einai terastios ariqmos.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Mas lete th genikoterh politikh poy exei h kybernhsh sto qema twn laqrometanastwn. Sas rwtw sygkekrimena: Se sxesh me thn Toyrkia kai me thn energeia poy kanei h Toyrkia na prowqei, me ton opoio tropo prowqei, toys laqrometanastes sthn Ellada, eseis ti lete; Yparxei qema me th geitonikh mas xwra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekana mia emmesh anafora sto qema poy qesate. Sas milhsa gia epanaprowqhsh, kati to opoio symbainei kai pros thn Toyrkia. Oi syzhthseis metajy twn dyo xwrwn, alla kai sto plaisio twn dieqnwn organismwn poy einai armodioi gi` ayto to qema, ginontai kai me thn Toyrkia. Oti yparxoyn kapoia problhmata, yparxoyn. Ayto einai safes.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite, pws h kybernhsh qa apallajei toys ergazomenoys me mplokaki apo to xaratsi toy k. Alogoskoyfh, giati h protash poy ekane o k. Alogoskoyfhs, xqes sth Boylh, einai profanes oti den prokeitai na symbalei se tipota, giati einai profanes oti kanenas ergodoths den qa dexqei na paei kapoios ergazomenos sthn Eforia kai na dhlwsei oti apasxoleitai me mplokaki. Giati profanws parabiazei thn ergatikh nomoqesia. Ara, poia lysh einai poy qa doqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Doqhkan apanthseis xqes apo ton k. Alogoskoyfh kai to qema synexisthke arketa analytika sth syzhthsh poy diejagetai sth Boylh. H apanthsh einai oti to deltio paroxhs yphresiwn, opws dieykrinise o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, kai kapoia alla zhthmata, (giati dieykrinise kai to qema ths genias twn 700 eyrw, opws synhqisame na thn anaferoyme gia na exoyme kalyterh gnwsh toy sygkekrimenoy qematos) den eixan anakoinwqei ws proqeseis ths kybernhshs gia thn allagh ths klimakas forologhshs. Oi diadikasies me tis opoies ginontai, einai diadikasies gia tis opoies to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn mporei na sas enhmerwsei kalytera ap` o,ti egw.

KAKALHS: Oi ergazomenoi sta Barea kai Anqygieina anhkoyn stoys pronomioyxoys kai ta ``retire'' kai h kybernhsh speydei na toys bgalei ejw apo th lista, toylaxiston 300.000 apo aytoys poy anhkoyn se kapoia epaggelmata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H prospaqeia poy kanei h eidikh epitroph poy exei systaqei gi` ayto to logo, einai na apotypwsei poia epaggelmata einai pragmatika Barea kai Anqygieina. Gnwrizoyme oloi oti sth xwra mas exei yperbei se poly megalo ariqmo to pososto twn Barewn kai Anqygieinwn ap` o,ti se olh thn ypoloiph Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Yparxoyn epaggelmata ta opoia kata kairoys exoyn anaferqei -den qa anaferw shmera kapoio apo ayta, exei doqei kai h lista sth dhmosiothta edw kai polloys mhnes- ta opoia den mporoyn na qewrhqoyn Barea kai Anqygieina. Perimenoyme, loipon, thn eishghsh ths epitrophs -nomizw oti exei ginei hdh eishghsh- etsi wste na lhfqei h kybernhtikh apofash. Den toys bazoyme oloys sto idio epipedo, dioti etsi oysiastika adikoyme aytoys poy pragmatika ergazontai se baries kai anqygieines doyleies.

FANIDHS: Xqes o Arhs Sphliwtopoylos afhse kapoies aixmes gia to qema ths diadikasias me ta chfodeltia, legontas oti an einai kalh h kakh h diadikasia, ekei endexomenws to PASOK na exei dikio. Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo esas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den diegnwsa na yparxei kapoia aixmh, opws anaferate. Ayto to opoio apotypwqhke, nomizw, sth dhlwsh toy synadelfoy einai oti sth diarkeia ths chfoforias -opws dystyxws se polles chfofories sth Boylh, an oxi se oles, apo polla xronia twra, dekaeties twra- parathreitai mia atajia, opws thn anefere kai o k. Sioyfas. Kai den milame gia thn atajia ths diadikasias. Milame gia to oti den yparxei h sygkekrimenh tajh wste na kaqetai o kaqe boyleyths sto edrano toy, anamenontas thn klhsh toy apo to Proedreio an yparxei problhma sto chfodeltio toy h to apotelesma ths chfoforias. Ayto einai kati to opoio osoi apo esas -kai nomizw oi perissoteroi, an oxi oloi- exete paei sth Boylh, to exete parathrhsei. Se ayto to kommati, einai kati to opoio kaneis den mporei na to amfisbhthsei, alla se o,ti afora thn tajh gia th diadikasia ths chfoforias -kai ennow edw me ayto, thn oysia ths chfoforias kai to diablhto- sas lew kai pali oti den yparxei oyte ena periqwrio wste na mporesei kapoios na diabalei, me ayto ton tropo poy anaferqhke apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, to apotelesma ths chfoforias.

GKOYTZANHS: Eipate oti den eidate aixmh sth dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy. Den eidate aixmh oyte sth dhlwsh ths prwhn Proedroy ths Boylhs k. Mpenakh poy zhta na ginei jana elegxos sta chfodeltia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabasa, shmera, mia dhlwsh ths k. Mpenakh stis efhmerides. Den gnwrizw akribws ayto poy moy lete. Diapistwnw oti me alla logia sto idio qema poy anaferqhka prohgoymenws -kai sto opoio anaferqhke allwste kai o Proedros ths Boylhs, xqes, apo thn aiqoysa ths Olomeleias- anaferqhke kai h prwhn Proedros ths Boylhs. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, qa epanalabw -den qa sas koyrasw, legontas ta analytika oso xqes- oti den yparxei oyte mia periptwsh na einai diablhth ayth h diadikasia. Prokalesa-proskalesa thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh na dwsei to opoiodhpote stoixeio oysias. Kai apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh yphrje siwph, kanena stoixeio oysias. To mono poy qa pw kleinontas einai oti h diadikasia gia na htan diablhth, qa eprepe na exei th symmetoxh toylaxiston epta proswpwn kai toy boyleyth o opoios chfizei ekeinh thn wra, pragma to opoio antilambaneste oti einai mono sto fasma ths fantasias toy PASOK.

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi se mas, sthn k. Mpenakh peste ta. Egw sas pisteyw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw sas apanthsa, afoy me rwthsate. Eyxaristw poly, pantws, gia th dhlwsh sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Tote, pws krinete th dhlwsh toy k. Agorastoy, o opoios leei oti den exei na zhthsei syggnwmh gia kanena logo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H diadikasia htan acogh. Kata synepeia, otan kathgorhqhke enas boyleyths oti ekane kati paratypo sth diadikasia, pragma to opoio sas apedeija xqes me ola ta stoixeia oti den isxyei, gia poio akribws pragma na zhthsei syggnwmh;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Gia ton tropo poy egine olh ayth h chfoforia kai poy dhmioyrghqhkan entypwseis. An mh ti allo, den qa eprepe na aisqanqei thn anagkh na zhthsei mia syggnwmh apenanti sto komma toy; Egw sas lew, pairnw thn periptwsh poy den yparxei noqeia, pisteyontas ta osa lete eseis. To gegonos oti emfanizetai etsi, exei ayth th symperifora kai dhmioyrgei h eikona apo monh ths kapoies entypwseis, den einai ena qema gia na zhthsei syggnwmh, toylaxiston apenanti sto komma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai egw thn periptwsh ayth pairnw, oxi ws endexomeno h ws mia apo tis polles, alla ws monadikh periptwsh. Dhladh, den yphrje kamia apopeira, oyte dynatothta noqeyshs toy apotelesmatos ekeinhs ths chfoforias. Ws ek toytoy, ayto to opoio moy lete anaferetai stis entypwseis poy eipate kai eseis, me tis opoies epaije ontws to PASOK, alla entypwseis poy katerreysan ypo to baros twn stoixeiwn. Dioti, einai allo oi entypwseis, allo na askei kapoios politikh me tis entypwseis kai allo na yparxoyn stoixeia toso shmantika, toso dyskolo ews adynato na amfisbhthqoyn, ta opoia apodeiknyoyn poia einai h alhqeia.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Xqes, o k. Boylgarakhs, me dhlwsh toy, edwse apanthsh sta osa legontai gia th systash ths etaireias. Ikanopoiei thn kybernhsh kai ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo h dhlwsh toy k. Boylgarakh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai apolytws jekaqarh kai ws ek toytoy, h apanthsh einai qetikh.

TSIOYFOS: Exete kapoio sxolio sxetika me tis diarroes poy yphrjan xqes kai tis opoies apopoihqhkan toso h Nea Dhmokratia, oso kai to PASOK se o,ti afora th legomenh ypoqesh me to boyleyth h toys boyleytes poy dierreysan ta stoixeia ayta sto PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edw kai merika xronia h aiqoysa toy briefing kai h enhmerwsh poy ginetai se ayth thn aiqoysa, kaqe meshmeri, apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo einai dhmosia. Gnwrizete poly kala -sas eixa enhmerwsei prin to kanw ayto- oti mporei kapoios mesa apo to Internet na parakoloyqhsei tis erwthseis twn dhmosiografwn kai tis apanthseis. An loipon, breqei ayrio kapoios, opoiosdhpote poliths poy exei gracei sto kompioyter toy th shmerinh mas enhmerwsh kai th xrhsimopoihsei, den omiloyme peri diarrohs. Dinw to paradeigma gia na ginei apolytws katanohto, giati omiloyme gia mia synedriash h opoia, ekeinh thn wra, metadidotan zwntana apo thn thleorash ths Boylhs kai kapoies dekades xiliades thleqeatwn thn parakoloyqoysan. Ta kommata eixan, epishs, th dynatothta na thn hxografhsoyn, na thn krathsoyn sto arxeio toys, se disketa k.o.k. Nomizw oti exei apanthqei to qema.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Paw sto agaphmeno mas qema, sth Monh Batopedioy. Oi boyleytes Xalkidikhs ths Neas Dhmokratias, se o,ti afora tis ektaseis sthn Oyranopoylh, epirriptoyn eyqynes ston k. Konto kai ton k. Mpasiako kai lene oti den elaban ypoch toys tis enstaseis twn topikwn forewn. Ti sxolio kanete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema exei ejantlhqei apo thn prwth h deyterh kiolas hmera twn erwthsewn, otan sas eipa oti yparxei erwthsh pollwn boyleytwn toy PASOK sth Boylh. Sta ypoyrgeia poy exei apeyqynqei h erwthsh, dhladh Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, poly syntoma qa dwsoyn thn apanthsh se ola ta zhthmata, ta opoia tiqentai sthn erwthsh ayth, gia to qema poy hgerqh tis teleytaies hmeres sth Boylh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Yparxei qema me to boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Akh Gerontopoyloy, o opoios xqes kateqese se ena asxeto nomosxedio sxetiko erwthma poy afora ton apoxarakthrismo ektasewn sto Metoxi Jhropotamoy Xalkidikhs kai to opoio anhkei kai ayto sth Monh Batopedioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to qema poy me rwtate. Einai koinoboyleytikh diadikasia. Alla, se kaqe periptwsh, sas lew oti se o,ti afora thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia kaqe boyleyths exei thn eleyqeria twn kinhsewn na kataqesei apo erwthseis ews sxedia nomwn -mazi me alloys boyleytes ennoeitai- tropologies k.o.k.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exei oristikopoihqei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh; Kai to rwtw ayto, dioti hdh koinwnikoi foreis, alla kai politika kommata, alla kai proswpa sth Qessalonikh epikrinoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo gia to syntomo programma toy. Gnwrizete an telikws o Prwqypoyrgos, opws ekane ki alles xronies, qa synanthqei me to Dhmarxo, to Nomarxh, alloys foreis endexomenws, an qa exei episkeceis h an qa perioristei telikws mono sto teletoyrgiko ths ekqeshs; Dhladh, sta egkainia, sthn omilia toy kai sth synenteyjh Typoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke hdh sto Megaro Majimoy thn perasmenh ebdomada me ennea foreis, organwseis apo olh thn Ellada kai th Qessalonikh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti to idio programma akoloyqhqhke kai perysi. An gyrisoyme ligo pisw kai apeyqynqw stoys palaioteroys dhmosiografoys -hmoyn enas apo aytoys tote poy parakoloyqoysame ta programmata- qymomaste oloi oti to programma antistoixws synebaine epi para polles dekaeties. Kapoia stigmh sthn poreia, gia logoys enos Prwqypoyrgoy ths xwras tote, ayjhqhke o xronos paramonhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh. Alla den allazei tipota epi ths oysias toy programmatos. Dhladh ta egkainia, h basikh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy to brady kai h synenteyjh Typoy thn Kyriakh, qa parameinoyn ws exoyn. Den allazei tipota apolytws.

XIWTHS: Den anaferomai sthn oysia toy programmatos-programmatos, alla eixame synhqisei ton k. Karamanlh ta prohgoymena xronia me aformh thn paroysia toy sthn Ekqesh na pragmatopoiei kai mia mikrh periodeia sto Nomo, eite episkeptomenos kapoia erga, eite synantwntas opws sas eipa to Dhmarxo...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na dieykrinisw to ejhs: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh anakoinwnetai poly nwritera. Alla genikws to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia opoiadhpote drash, anakoinwnetai molis thn prohgoymenh mera. An exw kati gia thn Paraskeyh, poy prohgeitai ths enarjews ths Ekqeshs, qa sas to pw ayrio.

Sas eyxaristw.

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