Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-06-12

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 12 Ioynioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 142319520

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 12 Ioynioy 2008

Xairete.

Arxise apo shmera to prwi, stoys nomoys oi opoioi eplhghsan apo to seismo ths perasmenhs Kyriakhs, h katabolh twn oikonomikwn bohqhmatwn stoys dikaioyxoys. H katabolh aytwn twn bohqhmatwn, exei dyo skelh: Gia ekeinoys twn opoiwn h monimh katoikia khryxqhke ws mh katoikhsimh, to bohqhma einai 3.000 eyrw, kai osoi exoyn katoikia poy exei katastrafei olosxerws, aytoi exoyn dikaiwma na paroyn kai ena poso 10.000 eyrw. Ayto, opws jerete, anakoinwqhke meta apo th syskech poy egine thn perasmenh Deytera, arga to apogeyma, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, sto Megaro Majimoy, apo ton k. Roysopoylo. Oi leptomereies, akribws opws tis eixame proanaggeilei, periexontai sthn apofash poy ekdoqhke xqes apo ta Ypoyrgeia Oikonomias kai Ygeias.

Arxise, loipon, opws eixame pei, apo shmera h katabolh ayths ths enisxyshs. Kai mexri prin apo 20 lepta peripoy, eixan labei to epidoma, thn enisxysh twn 3.000 eyrw, 312 synolika dikaioyxoi kai thn enisxysh twn 10.000 eyrw, pente dikaioyxoi, oi opoioi ypebalan, me thn aplh, aploysteymenh diadikasia, ta dikaiologhtika ta opoia problepontai. H katabolh aytoy toy epidomatos ginetai me gorgoys ryqmoys. Ypologizetai oti syntoma qa exoyn eisprajei ayto to poso poy einai gia na kalycei tis prwtes anagkes poy exoyn osoi eplhghsan.

Taytoxrona, qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw oti proxwrei me idiaitera taxeis ryqmoys, monadikoys qa elega gia ton topo mas, o elegxos twn oikhmatwn, twn akinhtwn, ta opoia ypesthsan zhmies kata to seismo ths Kyriakhs. Mexri stigmhs, exoyn ginei panw apo 5.000 elegxoi apo 300 synolika mhxanikoys poy briskontai sthn perioxh kai apartizoyn 130-140 synergeia poy doyleyoyn synexws. Kai xarakthrizoyn ta oikhmata ws katoikhsima h ws mh katoikhsima. Ayto einai poy proexei ayth th stigmh. Oi elegxoi aytoi qa synexistoyn me toys idioys, poly gorgoys ryqmoys kai tis epomenes hmeres. Dioti ekeino poy metraei einai h symparastash pros toys synanqrwpoys mas poy ypesthsan zhmies na einai grhgorh kai oysiastikh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eixe doqei sthn arxh h aisqhsh oti den qa xreiastei to xarti toy TAS. Telika, omws, shmera oi dieyqyntes twn trapezwn zhthsan to xarti toy KAS apo toys dikaioyxoys toy TAS, oi opoioi janaphgan stoys mhxanikoys gia na ginei olh ayth h diadikasia...

ANTWNAROS: Den eixe dhmioyrghqei pote ayth h entypwsh. Ayto allwste to xarti, einai ena aplo xarti, to opoio ekdidetai poly grhgora, me thn aytocia h opoia ginetai kai ej oswn gnwrizw -to exw dei allwste, gi` ayto kai sas to lew- mesa se ena tetragwnaki mpainei ena X, otan to spiti einai mh katoikhsimo. Synepws, oloi poy exoyn tetoia spitia h oikhmata poy einai h prwth toys, monimh katoikia kai einai mh katoikhsima, me aplo tropo eisprattoyn to poso poy dikaioyntai. Qa hqela na sas pw de, akribws gia na deite me poso grhgoro ryqmo ginetai h katabolh, shmera stis 10.45 eixan eisprajei tis 3.000 eyrw 119 dikaioyxoi, stis 12.15, 289, dhladh yperdiplasios ariqmos mesa se miamish wra. Kai o ryqmos aytos, opws sas eipa, mesa sta epomena 20 lepta synexise na anebainei. Opoios paei kai exei ayta ta apla xartia poy einai aplo na ta exei sta xeria toy, eisprattei to poso ayto poy -epanalambanw- einai gia na anakoyfisei toys anqrwpoys tis prwtes dyskoles hmeres.

KAKALHS: Eixate pei th Deytera to apogeyma, meta th syskech poy eixe ginei sto Majimoy, oti mexri thn Tetarth, qa eixe oloklhrwqei h katagrafh twn zhmiwn kai apo thn Pempth qa arxize h katabolh toy epidomatos...

ANTWNAROS: Opws kai egine.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite. Mexri xqes eixe ginei to 60% ths katagrafhs twn zhmiwn, symfwna me ta epishma stoixeia. Yparxoyn polla poy den exoyn katagrafei akomh. Ara, to epidoma, ena megalo kommati apo toys seismoplhktoys, argei na to parei. Oi ryqmoi dhladh, para thn eidylliakh eikona poy paroysiazete, den einai etsi. Kai mexri prin apo tis 10.45 den eixe epidoqei oyte ena eyrw.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Mexri tis 10.45 eixan plhrwqei...

KAKALHS: (Ektos mikrofwnoy).

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Kakalh, jerw akribws, to ti exw pei. Mexri tis 10.45 eixan plhrwqei 119 dikaioyxoi.

KAKALHS: Den einai ayto to qema.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporei kaneis na perigrafei mia katastash meta apo ena seismo ws eidylliakh. Ekeino to opoio eipa egw einai oti 300 mhxanikoi, enas ariqmos o opoios pote allote den exei energopoihqei, kanoyn synexws elegxoys, aytocies. Qelete, dhladh, an prokycei, kaqws pragmati prokyptei sth diadromh oti yparxoyn kai alla ktiria poy exoyn zhmies, na mhn elegxqoyn; Ayta prepei na elegxqoyn, wste oi dikaioyxoi...

KAKALHS: Den exoyn katagrafei, omws, mexri twra oles oi zhmies kai ara kaqysteroyn na paroyn to epidoma aytoi poy exoyn paqei zhmies.

ANTWNAROS: Aytoi twn opoiwn to spiti exei xarakthristei ws mh katoikhsimo, me grhgoroys ryqmoys, pairnoyn ayto poy dikaioyntai. Kai ayto einai poy metraei. Aytoi twn opoiwn to spiti exei xarakthristei ws mh katoikhsimo, eite dioti exei pesei oloklhro, eite dioti exei ypostei tetoies zhmies poy prepei bebaiws, na episkeyastei, na beltiwqei, na diorqwqei, aytoi pairnoyn ta xrhmata.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se ena allo qema. Yparxei kapoio sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn krish poy exei jespasei sto PASOK, me th sygkroysh koryfhs anamesa ston proedro toy PASOK k. Papandreoy kai ton prwhn Prwqypoyrgo k. Shmith;

ANTWNAROS: Gia mia akomh fora, apodeiknyetai  opws apodeiknyetai se ola ta qemata mikra kai megala, dystyxws- oti to PASOK exei dyo politikes. Kai den anaferomai sth diaforetikh proseggish toy nyn kai toy prwhn arxhgoy toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs gia to qema ths metarryqmistikhs Synqhkhs. To idio to PASOK, ws komma, apodeiknyei oti exei allhlosygkroyomenes, antifatikes symperifores. Afenos yperchfizei sth Boylh th Synqhkh kai afeteroy zhtei th diejagwgh dhmochfismatos. Einai gnwsto poy katalhgei opoios prospaqei na pathsei se dyo barkes.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sas problhmatizei sthn kybernhsh oti basei twn teleytaiwn dhmoskophsewn einai ejairetika dyskolo na prokycei mia aytodynamh kybernhsh, opote kai an ginoyn aytes oi ekloges; Yparxei h skech, janaskeftetai, as poyme, h kybernhsh to endexomeno na melethsei jana ta osa exei pei kai prin apo tis prohgoymenes ekloges gia synergasies;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti exoyme pei isxyei. Rwthqhke kai xqes o k. Roysopoylos kai edwse apanthsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

KALARITHS: Se allo qema. H kybernhsh symfwnei me thn apoch toy boyleyth k. Tatoylh, oti politikoi twn opoiwn to onoma empleketai sthn ypoqesh ths SIEMENS, qa prepei na isxyei to tekmhrio ths enoxhs kai na paraithqoyn apo politikes qeseis poy katexoyn mexri na apodeixqei h aqwothta toys; Anaferomai se sxolio poy yparxei kai sthn istoselida, sto istologio toy k. Tatoylh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Gia to qema ths SIEMENS den exei allajei tipota se osa exoyme pei tis teleytaies hmeres.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh pisteyei oti einai kaqola nomimh h praktikh twn dwrwn kai twn xorhgiwn pros toys politikoys, opws isxyrizetai stelexos ths SIEMENS;

ANTWNAROS: Qa ginw monotonos, alla den prokeitai na kanw kanena apolytws sxolio gia mia ypoqesh ths opoias h diereynhsh apo th Dikaiosynh brisketai se ejelijh.

KAKALHS: Gia thn oysia, einai nomimh h praktikh twn dwrwn kai twn xorhgiwn pros toys politikoys apo tis etaireies;

ANTWNAROS: Oloi oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn ti einai nomimo kai ti einai mh nomimo.

KALARITHS: Plhrofories anaferoyn oti nwritera shmeiwqhkan kapoia epeisodia me dhmarxoys poy prospaqhsan na proseggisoyn to Megaro Majimoy kai shmeiwqhkan kapoia epeisodia ston Eqniko Khpo me astynomikes dynameis poy toys apetrecan. Exete kapoia eikona gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai se qesh na gnwrizw oti apo nwris xqes to apogeyma symfwnhqhke mia synanthsh ekproswpwn twn topikwn aytodioikhsewn twn dyo nomwn, oi opoioi eplhghsan kata kyrio logo  giati opws jeroyme yparxoyn kai zhmies sthn Aitwloakarnania, gi` ayto to lew, alla twn dyo nomwn poy kyriws eplhghsan apo ton seismo- me ton k. Giannh Aggeloy. H synanthsh ayth oristhke kai epanabebaiwqhke argotera xqes, na ginei stis 13:00, shmera, sto grafeio toy k. Aggeloy, sth Boylh, opoy o k. Aggeloy eixe apo shmera to prwi polla ranteboy, pragma poy symbainei syxna. Anti na pane sto prokaqorismeno ranteboy, opws synhqizetai  oi anqrwpoi throyn ta ranteboy toys synhqws- o k. Foyras kai orismenoi alloi phgan sto Megaro Majimoy, enw hjeran oti o k. Aggeloy brisketai sth Boylh gia to prokaqorismeno ranteboy. Einai safes oti oi kinhseis aytes einai kinhseis entypwsiasmoy, fqhnoy entypwsiasmoy. Kapoioi qeloyn profanws na paijoyn ta dika toys politika paixnidia stis plates twn synanqrwpwn mas poy eplhghsan apo ton seismo ths perasmenhs Kyriakhs.

KAKALHS: Se allo qema. Telika einai san na mhn egine tipota me to skandalo me to hlielaio; Apodesmeyontai telika oi posothtes me eyqynh twn epixeirhsewn kai ``oyte gata, oyte zhmia''; Dhladh, xwris na exei entopisqei akoma h phgh poy egine h epimolynsh, xwris na jeroyme poies posothtes katanalwqhkan, jafnika dinontai oles oi posothtes poy eixan desmeyqei jana sthn kykloforia me eyqynh twn epixeirhsewn; Poio einai to mhnyma ths kybernhshs pros tis epixeirhseis; Oti oi business synexizontai xwris na yparxei kanena problhma;

ANTWNAROS: Me to erwthma sas parafrazete h parermhneyete h endexomenws den exete diabasei epakribws th xqesinh anakoinwsh toy EFET poy leei oti epistrefontai pros katanalwsh oi posothtes ekeines, oi opoies meta apo xhmikh analysh breqhke oti den einai epikindynes gia th dhmosia ygeia. Ayto einai apolytws fysiko. Ayto eixame pei apo thn arxh. Den allaje tipota. To ``oles'' einai dikh sas ermhneia h opoia den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Einai sygkekrimenh h anakoinwsh kai periexei sygkekrimena stoixeia. Diabaste thn kala kai qa katalabete.

KAKALHS: Dhladh poies apodesmeyontai; Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete thn anakoinwsh.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o Yfypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Blaxos sth Boylh, anakoinwse oti prowqeitai to nomosxedio gia toys daneiolhptes, alla kai mia ypoyrgikh apofash poy ryqmizei ta problhmata sth leitoyrgia toy trapezikoy kladoy. Qa yparjoyn kai alles prwtoboylies gia thn enisxysh twn katanalwtwn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ypenqymizw oti prin apo ena mhna peripoy se syzhthsh poy eixe ginei sth Boylh me ayto to antikeimeno, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe anaferei sygkekrimena metra, oloklhrwmeno paketo metrwn, ta opoia h kybernhsh skopeye, eixe anakoinwsei oti qa labei, prokeimenoy na prostateyqoyn oi daneiolhptes. Opws gnwrizete, xreiazetai mia proetoimasia, prokeimenoy mia tetoia nomoqetikh prwtoboylia na parei th morfh nomosxedioy kai afoy elegxqoyn oles oi parametroi, ftanoyme se ayto. Ayto einai to ena to opoio qa ginei apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias. Sto nomosxedio ayto qa enswmatwqei kai h teleytaia koinotikh odhgia poy afora sthn katanalwtikh pisth. Taytoxrona o armodios Yfypoyrgos k. Giwrgos Blaxos etoimazei, opws anakoinwse, ypoyrgikh apofash poy qa orizei thn apaleich twn orwn ekeinwn gia th lhch twn daneiwn poy exoyn kriqei ws kataxrhstikoi meta apo ametaklhtes dikastikes apofaseis. Me ayto ton tropo apodeiknyetai gia mia akomh fora oti h kybernhsh kanei prajh ayta ta opoia exei anakoinwsei, exontas th synexh frontida wste na anakoyfisei toys Ellhnes katanalwtes apo oroys oi opoioi toys epibarynoyn kai den prepei na yparxoyn.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete ta gegonos oti meta nea eisodhmatika oria poy kaqorise h kybernhsh 70 xiliades xamhlosyntajioyxoi xanoyn fetos to EKAS;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw yp och moy ta sygkekrimena stoixeia. Hqela omws na sas ypenqymisw oti h shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy ayjhse shmantika gia polloys dikaioyxoys to EKAS, einai ekeinh poy ayjhse ta aforologhta oria shmantika gia na anakoyfisei toys xamhlomisqoys kai ekeinoys poy exoyn megalyterh anagkh kai frontizei wste me to Tameio gia thn Koinwnikh Synoxh to opoio syntoma, opws anakoinwqhke, qa leitoyrgei, na enisxyqei to eisodhma ekeinwn poy exoyn ta xamhlotera eisodhmata kai tis xamhloteres syntajeis. Ayto einai ena plegma metrwn poy apoblepei akribws sthn enisxysh kai thn anakoyfish ekeinwn twn synanqrwpwn mas poy exoyn ligotera oikonomika mesa apo toys alloys gia na antimetwpisoyn thn kaqhmerinothta.

KAKALHS: To EKAS, oti dwsate me to ena xeri, poy htan kai dikastikh apofash, telos pantwn, to pairnete me to allo. Osoi to dikaioytan, sxedon to xanoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai etsi.

KAKALHS: (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Afoy enhmerwqw na sas dwsw to stoixeia.

KAKALHS: Wraia kai mia synafh erwthsh sto qema ths ftwxeias. Pws ermhneyete to gegonos oti 450 xiliades paidia zoyn katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias kai exei ayjhqei o ariqmos toys epi qhteias ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa molis prin apo dyo - tria lepta oti h kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Politeia me ena plegma metrwn, synexwn metrwn, prospaqei akribws na anakoyfisei osoys exoyn megalyterh anagkh. Ayth einai h prospaqeia olwn mas kai ayto kanoyme.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw pali gia to qema twn dhmarxwn. Epeidh kanate logo gia politika paixnidia kai shmeiwsate oti anamesa se ayth thn omada htan kai o k. Foyras...

ANTWNAROS: Etsi me enhmerwsan. An kanw laqos na to aposyrw.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Egw ayto to opoio hqela na rwthsw einai, ayta ta politika paixnidia, opws eipate eseis, ta syndeei h kybernhsh me osa eginan xqes sto PASOK, dhladh ws prospaqeia antiperispasmoy;

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei oti kaneis den mporei na paizei tetoia politika paixnidia, aytes tis stigmes, stis plates twn synanqrwpwn mas poy opws sas eipa eplhghsan apo to seismo ths Kyriakhs. Oloi mas exoyme ypoxrewsh na kanoyme kaqe prospaqeia gia na toys anakoyfisoyme. Kai h kybernhsh to kanei ayto me sygkekrimenes prajeis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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