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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 12 Maioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 136733561

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APANTHSH Q. ROYSOPOYLOY SE ERWTHSH DHMOSIOGRAFOY STO BRIEFING

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Maioy 2008

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio stis 10.00, qa synergastei me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh. Stis 11.00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn. Stis 19.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa apeyqynei xairetismo sthn ethsia syneleysh toy SEB, sto Megaro Moysikhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Gia ton OTE, kyrie Ekproswpe, exei prokycei kati; Pote qa oloklhrwqei h symfwnia h exoyn apomeinei qemata diadikastikoy xarakthra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati kainoyrgio. Perimenw apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, kai to Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn.

KAKALHS: Ektos apo tis DEKO, ton OTE, th DEH, thn Olympiakh, thn EYDAP argotera, ta limania, ta aerodromia, h kybernhsh skeftetai na ekxwrhsei ta Panepisthmia stis epixeirhseis, stoys epixeirhmaties; Mono ta idiwtika panepisthmia qa swsoyn thn anwtath ekpaideysh; Ayth einai h epishmh kybernhtikh qesh, opws thn ejefrase o k. Stylianidhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to prwto skelos ths erwthshs-parathrhshs den qa kanw kamia parathrhsh, alla gia to deytero poy eipate, o k. Stylianidhs eipe to aytonohto. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h kybernhsh exei proteinei thn anaqewrhsh toy arqroy 16. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h prospaqeia poy exei ginei ola ayta ta xronia gia thn enisxysh ths dhmosias Paideias, toy dhmosioy panepisthmioy, einai shmantikh kai afora se dyo tomeis: Ston oikonomiko tomea, opoy ta posa kata apolyto ariqmo einai poly perissotera (kai kat` analogia se sxesh me ta posa poy eixan doqei stis prohgoymenes kybernhseis), alla kai sto qesmiko tomea me th metarryqmish poy egine sthn Paideia kai h opoia enisxyei ta ellhnika panepisthmia, to dhmosio xarakthra toys. Epishs, ta enisxyei kai ws pros thn oysia toy ergoy poy exoyn na parajoyn, dhladh na einai pio antagwnistika se sxesh me alla panepisthmia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs h genikotera ston kosmo. Giati, sigoyra, ena apo ta stoixeia ta opoia ena panepisthmio shmera ofeilei na synypologisei, einai akribws ayth h antagwnistikothta. Pws alliws qa legame oloi mas oti o tade h to paidi toy tade exei ptyxio apo ayto to panepisthmio h to allo panepisthmio; Jeroyme poly kala oti h ajia enos panepisthmioy apotypwnetai sto ptyxio kai ayto einai apotelesma doyleias syllogikhs kai twn foithtwn kai fysika kai twn kaqhghtwn. H kybernhsh, pantws, gia na mhn makrhgorw, exei apodeijei sthn prajh oti enisxyei to dhmosio xarakthra toy panepisthmioy. Apo thn allh, den blepw giati prepei na fobatai kapoios to na dhmioyrghqoyn mh kratika panepisthmia sth xwra mas.

Nomizw oti eimaste, an oxi h teleytaia, pantws apo tis teleytaies xwres sthn Eyrwph poy exei ayth thn antilhch kai bebaiws, exoyme th gnwsth diarroh synallagmatos se poly megala posa. Ekatontades ekatommyria eyrw exoyn diarreysei se balkanikes xwres h alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, tis HPA, giati maqhtes oi opoioi qeloyn na spoydasoyn, den spoydazoyn se ellhnika panepisthmia kai phgainoyn sto ejwteriko. Einai, nomizw, pollaplh h xrhsimothta toy na janaskeftei  kai katalhgw etsi- to PASOK, thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos genika kai eidikotera to arqro 16.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla pws enisxyei h kybernhsh to dhmosio panepisthmio, otan afenos systhmatika synexizetai h ypoxrhmatodothsh kai h apajiwsh toy apo thn kybernhsh kai ta apolyta noymera poy anaferate prohgoymenws einai profanws se paixnidi logistikwn entypwsewn, se sxesh me to AEP meiwnetai h xrhmatodothsh apo th meria ths kybernhshs, alla hqela na pw, pws enisxyetai to dhmosio panepisthmio, otan o idios o Stylianidhs leei oti oses metaboles kai an ginoyn sto yfistameno systhma, den einai arketes gia na anatrecoyn kai xreiazetai to sok twn idiwtikwn panepisthmiwn. Den einai mia anoixth primodothsh yper twn idiwtikwn panepisthmiwn, h dhlwsh toy k. Stylianidh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to pososto epi toy AEP gia thn ekpaideysh, milame gia ena pososto anw toy 3%. Den eimaste ikanopoihmenoi, qa qelame perissotera. Alla, kai gi` ayto qa epanelqw stoys apolytoys ariqmoys, qa sas pw oti metajy 2004 kai 2008, h ayjhsh se apolytes times einai 2,4 dis eyrw. Antistoixa, to 2000-2004, h antistoixh ayjhsh se apolytoys ariqmoys, htan peripoy sto miso. Den apotypwnetai ayth h ayjhsh se pososto epi toy AEP, opws eipa, logw fysika ths beltiwshs toy AEP ths xwras mas. Yparxei kai mia seira apo polla alla stoixeia, opws einai h ayjhsh ths aporrofhtikothtas apo to G'KPS, apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn, poy einai panw apo 10%, dhladh, synolo anw toy 80% ths aporrofhshs twn kondyliwn toy G'KPS. Yparxoyn egkriseis apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, apo to D'KPS, ycoys 2,2 dis eyrw gia thn ekpaideysh, dhladh, to 14% twn dapanwn (poy qa erqoyn apo to D'KPS) ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, parexontai sto Ypoyrgeio Paideias gia to diasthma 2007-2013. Exw mia seira apo alla stoixeia, alla den qa sas koyrasw. Pantws, sigoyra, se o,ti afora ta oikonomika, isxyei ayto to opoio sas eipa.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h koinh gnwmh talaipwreitai, oi polites talaipwroyntai apo thn apergia twn bytioforwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, an qewrei h kybernhsh oti ta aithmata poy proballei aytos o klados einai yperbolika h an diaforetika, prokeitai na ta ikanopoihsete gia na lyqei ayto to problhma poy exei prokycei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqe klados exei dikaiwma na probalei kai na ypobalei aithmata. Den qa htan dokimo na krinw, me aformh thn erwthsh poy qesate toylaxiston se ayth th fash, opoy exoyn proxwrhsei polles syzhthseis me oloys toys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys. Perimenw aytes tis hmeres  elpizw shmera, ayrio, efoson exoyn oloklhrwqei oi epafes kai me ta melh ths kybernhshs opws exoyn oristei kai toys ekproswpoys twn forthgwn dhmosias xrhsews kai twn bytioforwn- na exoyme aisia ekbash. Ayth th stigmh, den qelw na kanw perissotera sxolia.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to perasmeno Sabbato, h efhmerida ``O KOSMOS TOY EPENDYTH'' eixe ena qema, opoy me fwtografies edeixne na anegeirontai ktismata mesa ston Eqniko Drymo ths Parnhqas. To erwthma einai, an qa apodoqoyn eyqynes se ekeinoys oi opoioi einai ypeyqynoi gi` ayto to pragma, se ola ta epipeda kai an ayta ta ayqaireta h telos pantwn ayta ta ktismata, qa gkremistoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizw oti asxoleitai to Ypoyrgeio Periballontos. Qa ekdwsei, anakoinwsh entos ths hmeras h to argotero ayrio.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sto qema pali ths apergias: Sas eipe o synadelfos oti an ta zhthmata poy qetoyn oi apergoi einai yperbolika kai to an qa ta ikanopoihsete h oxi. Eipate oti proxwroyn oi syzhthseis. Kamia antirrhsh. To zhthma, omws, einai to ejhs: Epeidh o kosmos talaipwreitai para poly, jerete, yparxei kai to metro ths epitajhs, to opoio mexri twra den exei efarmostei apo thn kybernhsh Karamanlh. To skeftetai ayto to endexomeno; Dhladh, an kati den paei kala sto mellon, na proxwrhsoyme se ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw tipote perissotero sto qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, paroti prohgoymenws, apo o,ti plhroforhqhka, eipate oti gia to qema toy OTE den yparxei kati neotero, qa me endiefere na plhroforhqw pws krinetai apo esas h stash orismenwn boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, metajy aytwn kai enos ypoyrgoy, poy eite dia ths hxhrhs siwphs, eite dia dhmosiwn dhlwsewn, opws o k. Tsitoyridhs, o k. Ebert h o k. Tatoylhs ekfrazoyn epifylajeis gia to teliko keimeno ths symfwnias. Oi epifylajeis aytes synistatai sto oti den exoyn empistosynh sto oti qa diasfalistoyn ta dikaiwmata toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy h ta eqnika symferonta sthn ypoqesh ths pwlhshs toy OTE sthn Deutsche Telekom;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti koinh synistamenh twn dhlwsewn poy eginan htan to na thrhqei ayto poy elege h Nea Dhmokratia sto programma ths kai ayto, pistecte me, ginetai.

KASTABOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Kwnstantinos Mhtsotakhs se synenteyjh toy sthn ``Kaqhmerinh'', eipe metajy allwn, anaferomenos sta MME, oti ta diaplekomena symferonta den htan toso enwmena sthn arnhsh oso sth dikh toy periodo. Kai epishs, oti o Prwqypoyrgos frontizei gia ta symferonta toy kratoys kai oi alloi gia ta dika toys ta symferonta kai den diapragmateyetai. Ayto to teleytaio, ermhneyqhke ws aixmh h yponooymeno gia to shmerino Prwqypoyrgo. Symmerizeste ayth thn ermhneia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayqentikos ermhneyths twn dhlwsewn toy qa einai o idios o Epitimos Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias kai prwhn Prwqypoyrgos. Opws gnwrizete, h pagia qesh moy einai oti den sxoliazw dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo ligo erxomenh akoyga ton k. Giannh Manwlh sto radiofwniko staqmo toy Alpha, o opoios ebale ena zhthma poy to egeiroyn kai alloi boyleytes stis syzhthseis, to an dhladh h kybernhsh qa analabei politikh desmeysh gia to mexri poio pososto qa parameinei to Dhmosio metoxos ston OTE. Dioti, opws hdh exei proanaggeilei o k. Alogoskoyfhs, h symfwnia toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy me thn Deutsche Telekom qa isxyei ews otoy to Dhmosio katexei to 5% twn metoxwn. Qa analabei h kybernhsh mia tetoia desmeysh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw, o k. Alogoskoyfhs exei kanei hdh poly pio sygkekrimenes dhlwseis stis opoies kanate mia anafora sthn erwthsh sas. Qa hqela na pw oti den qa mporei na ginei kamia metabibash xwris thn egkrish toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy. Ayto ti shmainei; Shmainei oti to ellhniko Dhmosio qa exei pantote ekeino to pososto to opoio qa orizei ta pragmata. Einai stoixeia ths diapragmateyshs ta opoia anaferontai h en pash periptwsei bazoyn sto trapezi ths diapragmateyshs -ta ``beto'', as to poyme etsi, dhladh tis desmeyseis, tis ypoxrewseis- ta dikaiwmata poy exei h kaqe pleyra.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia th synenteyjh toy k. Mhtsotakh, qewreite oti oi antidraseis stelexwn ths kybernwsas paratajhs, koryfaiwn istorikwn stelexwn sta osa leei o Epitimos Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias, o opoios epimenei peran toy episthmonikoy symposioy, qa mporoysan endexomenws na dhmioyrghsoyn problhma sth synoxh ths paratajhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti h antiparaqesh apocewn den dhmioyrgei pote problhma se mia Dhmokratia kai se mia dhmokratikh paratajh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn perasmenh ebdomada o grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas k. Tragakhs ekane mia dhlwsh opoy anafere oti h symfwnia gia ton OTE einai politikh epilogh ths kybernhshs kai den mporei na mhn thn chfisoyn oi boyleytes. Ayto deixnei na einai grammh kommatikhs peiqarxias. Einai se synennohsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo o k. Tragakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw thn parathrhsh poy kanate. Qa pw mono oti moy akoygetai poly kalh h dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh.

KAKALHS: H anabaqmish ths toyrkikhs proklhtikothtas kai h epikairopoihsh twn blecewn sto Aigaio, opws ekfrazontai mesa apo to site toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, mhpws odhgei thn kybernhsh se deyteres skeceis gia thn anaqewrhsh ths politikhs poy efarmozei mexri twra sta ellhnotoyrkika kai ta eyrwtoyrkika; Giati ta apotelesmata ayths ths politikhs mexri twra den htan apo ta epidiwkomena kai prosdokwmena. Giati, anti na exoyme mia plhrh omalopoihsh, opws diakhryssei h kybernhsh, exoyme mia ojynsh. Mhpws skefteste na anaqewrhsete thn politikh sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o, ti afora to symban ayto kaqayto, yphrje xqes mia anakoinwsh toy ekproswpoy toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Den qa pw tipote perissotero. Se o,ti afora to ypoloipo toy qematos -poy einai kai to pio shmantiko ayto poy rwthsate- qa sas pw oti h xwra mas deixnei kai qa synexisei na deixnei thn kalh ths diaqesh, pisteyontas oti oi sxeseis kalhs geitonias pernoyn kai mesa apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh .Pisteyoyme, dhladh, oti h eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias einai poy qa bohqhsei na epilyqei mia seira apo zhthmata -den ypeiserxomai se kati pio sygkekrimeno twra- akoma kai yperboles lektikes h alloy typoy sto plaisio ths eyrwpaikhs oikogeneias. Emeis eyelpistoyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh kai sthrizoyme ayth thn kateyqynsh.

KAKALHS: Ayto den exei dikaiwqei mexri twra pantws. Alla hqela na rwthsw kai kati allo. Diakrinei h kybernhsh kapoia sxesh metajy ths anakinhshs toy meionotikoy sth Qrakh me to qema ths dieleyshs twn agwgwn apo thn perioxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ti ennoeite legontas ``anakinhsh meionotikoy''. Gnwrizete poly kala oti me bash tis dieqneis symfwnies yparxei qrhskeytikh meionothta. Thn exei anagnwrisei h xwra mas. Se o,ti afora toys agwgoys, einai mia politikh thn opoia akoloyqei h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, politikh poy den ejantleitai mono sto qema twn agwgwn. Gia paradeigma, emeis pisteyoyme oti sth shmerinh epoxh, h gewstrathgikh qesh mias xwras paizei men kapoio rolo sto dieqnes politiko periballon, sto dieqnes oikonomiko periballon, alla oxi to rolo poy epaize sto parelqon. Aifnhs, mporw na sas pw se qemata poy aforoyn ta limania -mias kai einai kai ayto ena qema ths epikairothtas- oti kai h texnologia poy exei kanei taxytera ta ploia, alla kai oi synqhkes toy dieqnoys emporioy qa odhgoysan, ean den speydame na kinhqoyme sthn kateyqynsh ayth, se geitonikes xwres (opws einai h Toyrkia, h Italia, h Malta) na wfelhqoyn ayta ta opoia mporei na wfelhqoyn ta limania toy Peiraia, ths Qessalonikhs, dhladh h xwra mas. To idio symbainei kai me toys agwgoys. Pisteyoyme oti h xwra prepei na einai paroysa kai politika kai oikonomika. Giati gnwrizete oti h oikonomia einai ayth poy kinei sxedon ta panta, an oxi ta panta, ston planhth, ekei opoy prepei. Na einai, dhladh, paroysa sto shmera, na problepei to ayrio, na to prodiagrafei gia to symferon. Ayto akribws kanoyme.

SPYRAKH: Yparxoyn plhrofories, oi opoies dhmosieyontai kai shmera, sxetika me thn klhsh apo ton armodio eisaggelea, dyo proswpwn poy syndeontai metajy toys, einai kai zeygari, poy apasxoloyntai se Organismo toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai emplekontai sthn ypoqesh ths Siemens. Hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh exei na kanei kapoio sxolio sxetika me thn ejelijh ayths ths ypoqeshs, giati fainetai pws pia emfanizontai proswpa ta opoia briskontai se qeseis kleidia, ston kratiko mhxanismo panta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na gnwrizw thn ekbash ayths ths ypoqeshs. Ekeino poy gnwrizw einai oti h kybernhsh apo enos kai pleon etos exei dia toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs bohqhsei sto na dhmioyrghqoyn oi synqhkes, wste na breqoyn stoixeia, na ginei h aparaithth ereyna gia thn ypoqesh ayth. Kai opoy xreiazetai, ennoeitai oti to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs qa synexisei na bohqa. Perimenoyme oloi mas ayth thn ereyna gia na mporesoyme na kanoyme kai ta sxolia mas. Qa htan adokimo na kanw sxolia se mia tetoia fash.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sas akoygete ejisoy kalh me th dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh h proeidopoihsh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfh oti, ean den chfistei h symbash gia ton OTE tote qa pesei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poy ekane ayth th dhlwsh;

PALAIOLOGOS: Se synanthsh toy me syndikalistes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio. Den gnwrizw na yparxei tetoia dhmosia dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Exete rwthsei ton idio; Giati ayto, moy fainetai oti kykloforei dyo-treis hmeres.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas epanalambanw oti den gnwrizw na yparxei tetoia dhlwsh. Se kaqe periptwsh, qymizw oti h ypoqesh toy OTE perigrafetai  kai etsi ginetai sthn prajh- apo to programma mas toy 2004 kai isxyei ayto poy apanthsa prohgoymenws sto synadelfo sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo thn poreia toy ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy kai apo thn poiotikh anabaqmish twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn meta thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Agkyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa epanalabw ayto, to opoio exei katakriqei polles fores oti exqros toy kaloy einai to kalytero. Pisteyw oti ta pragmata den prepei na krinontai ws pros thn apotelesmatikothta toys statika h sto diasthma enos mikroy xronikoy diasthmatos, alla sto synolo h se baqos xronoy. Isxyei, loipon, kata ta loipa, h elpida gia aisiodojia. H aisiodojh prooptikh thn opoia anefera prohgoymenws.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo ligo, me aformh thn erwthsh synadelfoy gia ta qemata Paideias, anaferqhkate sth syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh. Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean ta kommata ths Aristeras kai to LAOS proselqoyn kai chfisoyn kapoies diatajeis -akoygetai oti piqanon na dexqoyn na chfisoyn dyo-treis diatajeis- h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei kai qa kleisei me ayto ton tropo th syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh h den qa proxwrhsei to qema, wste na yparxei dynatothta meta apo pente, eji xronia, opws problepei to Syntagma, na epanelqei sth syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H syntagmatikh diadikasia problepei ta pragmata. Dhladh, apo th stigmh poy exei arxisei h syzhthsh sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs, den mporei na stamathsei apo thn kybernhsh. Den einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na stamathsei th syzhthsh. Ayto, allwste, fanhke me to na proxwrhsei kai se ayth th Boylh kai na eisagagei kanonika tis allages, oi opoies syzhthqhkan sthn prohgoymenh, thn anaqewrhtikh Boylh toy 2004. Emeis, ekeino poy pisteyoyme einai oti thn anaqewrhsh ayth sta megala zhthmata thn exei anagkh o topos. Anefera hdh to qema ths Paideias, alla kai ta ypoloipa ta opoia perilambanei ayth h anaqewrhsh h kai mikrotera akomh. Giati den einai ola meizona, alla yparxoyn qemata ta opoia einai shmantika. Kai elpizoyme oti to PASOK qa to janaskefqei, estiazontas sto geniko symferon kai oxi se ayto to opoio, en telei, kommatika den apedeixqh na einai kai toso ep wfeleia h genikws ep wfeleia toy.

GKOYTZANHS: An exw katalabei kala apo ta reportaz poy diabazw, akoma sta estiatoria kai tis tabernes xrhsimopoieitai to hlielaio poy einai noqeymeno me oryktelaia. Edw yparxoyn dyo erwthmata. Prwton, an h kybernhsh skopeyei, mporei na kanei kati gia na prostateysei twra toys katanalwtes poy synexizoyn, bebaiws, na bgainoyn ejw. Kai deyteron, ean exei entopisei eyqynes se kapoio stadio ths eisagwghs toy hlielaioy, eite stis etaireies oi opoies to eishgagan, eite se kapoioys elegktikoys mhxanismoys poy endexomenws den ekanan swsta toys elegxoys toys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema einai idiaiteroy endiaferontos -kai shmasias ennoeitai. Oxi mono giati afora th diatrofikh synhqeia olwn mas, twn paidiwn mas kai olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn, alla giati -bazw ena erwthmatiko edw- ereynatai kai h tyxon oligwria twn opoiwn yphresiwn exoyn thn eyqynh aytoy toy elegxoy. Wstoso, qelw na shmeiwsw oti yphrxan analytikes anakoinwseis thn perasmenh ebdomada kai apo ton k. Antwnaro kai apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys stis opoies, ayth th stigmh, den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero. Opws gnwrizete, h ereyna synexizetai. Efoson exw kapoia perissotera stoixeia, qa sas ta anakoinwsw.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epanerxomai sto qema ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs. Qa htan diateqeimenh h kybernhsh na bohqhsei, xronika ennow, to PASOK na to janaskefqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh ekane mia antistoixh prospaqeia, dyo h treis fores sto parelqon sthn prohgoymenh Boylh, otan zhthqhke na allajoyn oi hmeromhnies syzhthshs kapoiwn arqrwn. Ayto synebh. Deijame olh thn kalh mas diaqesh. Twra, h syzhthsh exei ginei sthn Olomeleia. Problepontai oi diadikasies apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs. Den eimai se qesh na gnwrizw kati perissotero. Epanalambanw aplws thn prosklhsh pros to PASOK, poy nomizw oti den einai prosklhsh ths kybernhshs, alla einai prosklhsh olwn twn politwn poy skeptontai oti xreiazetai na breqoyn lyseis sta meizona qemata me ta opoia asxoleitai h syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh. Lyseis poy aforoyn eite thn kaqhmerinothta toy polith, eite to mellon aytoy toy topoy se shmantikes parametroys, opws aytes poy anefera ths Paideias, toy periballontos k.t.l.

KAKALHS: Epanerxomai sto qema toy diatrofikoy skandaloy. Milhsate gia oligwria yphresiwn me erwthmatiko. Oligwria ths kybernhshs gia to gegonos oti exei afhsei thn agora pantelws asydoth kai anejelegkth kai kanena diatrofiko skandalo den entopizetai kai katastelletai prin plhrwsoyn tis synepeies toys oi katanalwtes, den diakrinete; Dhladh, h kybernhsh den katafernei mexri twra na prolabei kanena diatrofiko skandalo, na to pw etsi, den exei eyqynes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti apanta sthn erwthsh sas ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws, ektos kai an ennoeite oti kapoios ypoyrgos h yfypoyrgos einai entetalmenos me to na kanei sygkekrimenoys elegxoys. Kaqe ypoyrgos kai yfypoyrgos exei kata to Syntagma tis armodiothtes toy. Oi yphresies exoyn epishs tis sygkekrimenes kai safeis entoles toys. Fantazomai oti kaneis den epiqymei - kai den ennow apo ton politiko kosmo, alla apo toys Ellhnes polites kai aytoys poy ergazontai se antistoixes yphresies - na dieykolynei, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn (den exw kapoia plhroforia, to shmeiwnw aplws) ton opoiodhpote qelei na paranomhsei. Giati arage qelei kapoios na paranomhsei;

KAKALHS: Den ennow ayto. Me sygxwreite, ennow to oti askeitai mia politikh apo th meria ths kybernhshs tetoia poy krata skopima apodynamwmenoys toys elegktikoys mhxanismoys, den toys enisxyei kai den kanei toys elegxoys poy xreiazetai, me apotelesma na ekdhlwnontai ola ayta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kaqoloy ayth thn eikona gia toys elegktikoys mhxanismoys. Pisteyw oti oi elegktikoi mhxanismoi kai exoyn enisxyqei kai ginetai prospaqeia me kaqe tropo, kai den ennow mono ton praktiko tropo, dhladh tyxon oikonomika aithmata, oikonomikes enisxyseis, proswpa an xreiazetai megalyteros ariqmos proswpwn stoys elegktikoys mhxanismoys. Alla kai polles fores politika me to logo kai edw sto press room alla kai alloy exoyme parotrynei oles ekeines tis yphresies na deijoyn thn eyaisqhsia poy einai aparaithth. Jerete otan kapoios, ean yparxei kapoios tetoios, afhnei na perasei en gnwsei toy - giati mporei na symbei en agnoia oxi oti einai oligotero enoxos an synebh en agnoia aytos o kapoios h oi kapoioi - ta ellhnika synora ena proion poy einai epiblabes gia thn ygeia, den gnwrizei ekeinh thn wra an ayto to proion qa katanalwqei akoma kai apo ton idio, apo ta paidia toy h apo toys stenoys toy syggeneis kai filoys. Pisteyw loipon, oti milame gia nootropies. Allwste, allagh nootropias se polloys tomeis opoy epideiknyetai h apodeiknyetai ek twn ysterwn, opws eipate, kapoioy eidoys oligwria, einai to zhtoymeno gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites kai oxi mono gia th shmerinh kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gi` ayto to diatrofiko skandalo. Gia poio logo tote oi ypeyqynoi gia toys elegxoys den dinoyn, den plhroforoyn toys katanalwtes en prokeimenw gia to poies einai oi etaireies poy eneplakhsan se ayto to diatrofiko skandalo kai na to gnwstopoihsoyn epishma kai gia to poies ellhnikes etairies epesan qymata, endexomenws, ayths olhs ths istorias kai toy skandaloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na apanthsw sto erwthma sas to opoio qewrw ejairetika sobaro. Qa prospaqhsw na exw apanthsh entos ths hmeras kai na thn perilabw sto keimeno toy briefing.

TSIOYFOS: Qa epanelqw kai pali sth syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh. Ean to PASOK den antapokriqei sthn prosklhsh, thn opoia toy apeyqynate, na epanelqei h kybernhsh qa kleisei th syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh me thn allagh dyo, triwn, tessarwn, isws elassonos shmasias, diatajewn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa ginei o,ti apofasisei h Boylh. Proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na proxwrhsoyme kai na oloklhrwsoyme th syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, moy prokalese idiaiterh entypwsh mia dhlwsh toy k. Soyflia thn perasmenh ebdomada sth Boylh oti se enamish xrono qa idryqei aytonomo ypoyrgeio Periballontos. H periergeia moy einai ti akribws qa symbei se enamish xrono, dioti gia mia tetoia domikh allagh xreiazetai h anasxhmatismos h ekloges. Gnwrizei kati o k. Soyflias poy den gnwrizoyme. Programmatizete ekloges se enamish xrono h exete prokaqorisei ton anasxhmatismo se enamish xrono;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tipota apo ola ayta. Den mporw na jerw ti gnwrizei kaqe ypoyrgos perissotero apo esas. Einai piqano oi ypoyrgoi na gnwrizoyn perissotera, synhqws etsi ginetai. Alla en pash periptwsei gia na apanthsw sto erwthma sas: Katarxas den egine dhlwsh sth Boylh. Einai dhlwsh se ekdhlwsh sthn opoia meteixe o k. Soyflias. Ti eixe symbei; Prin apo epta mhnes stis programmatikes dhlwseis sth Boylh, o k. Soyflias eixe pei ayto to opoio epanelabe kai thn perasmenh ebdomada. Oti dhladh, gia toys x, c logoys poy periegrace se ekeinh thn omilia, thn opoia, nomizw kalo einai na diabasei kapoios, ofeiloyme na synexisoyme etsi opws eimaste shmera, sth dioikhtikh domh poy eimaste shmera kai meta apo dyo xronia - eixe pei tote - enamish twra, na proxwrhsoyme sth idrysh ypoyrgeioy Periballontos. Den exei allajei tipota, dhladh, apo ta osa eipwqhkan liges hmeres meta apo tis eqnikes ekloges ths 16hs Septembrioy 2007, sto Koinoboylio.

Sas eyxaristw.

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Maioy 2008

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