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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 5 Maioy 2008

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 5 Maioy 2008

Xairete, xronia polla se oloys.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio stis 10.00, qa exei synergasia me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs k. Meimarakh kai ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfh. Stis 11.00 synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynhs. Stis 18.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sth syzhthsh poy qa diejaxqei sth Boylh epi twn anaqewrhtewn diatajewn toy Syntagmatos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xronia polla kai epishmws. Eipate oti qa exei synanthseis kat` idian prin apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me ton k. Meimarakh kai ton k. Alogoskoyfh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai thn k. Mpakogiannh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me thn k. Mpakogiannh, ypociazomai gia to Skopiano.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, qa einai oi treis ypoyrgoi kai o Prwqypoyrgos...

PALAIOLOGOS: A, oi treis mazi!

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn qemata synarmodiothtas olwn twn ypoyrgeiwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ejoplistika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw, qa sas pw ayrio. Prokeitai gia qemata synarmodiothtas olwn twn ypoyrgeiwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia ta qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, qa afora kai th strateysh sta 18;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite, an qa lhfqei kapoia apofash ayrio; Oxi, den nomizw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi an qa lhfqei, an qa syzhthqei to qema ths strateyshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ena qema to opoio, opws gnwrizete, exei syzhthqei. Exei kanei polles fores dhlwseis o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs. Ginetai epejergasia twn protasewn, den exei lhfqei kapoia apofash.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pisteyete oti yparxoyn dhmosiografoi oi opoioi einai akraia empaqeis pros ypoyrgoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth einai mia erwthsh - pagida. Moy kanete synhqws mia erwthsh, exontas ypoch sas kapoia logia, endexomenws kapoioy stelexoys, to opoio ta eipe kai egw agnow. Den to gnwrizw an exei pei kapoio stelexos tetoia pragmata. Egw qelw na pisteyw oti oi dhmosiografoi kinoyntai sta plaisia toy leitoyrghmatos toys, thrwntas toys kanones deontologias. Ayth einai mia genikh apanthsh. An qelete na kanete pio sygkekrimenh thn erwthsh, sas akoyw.

XIWTHS: Na thn kanw, eyxaristws. O k. Eyaggelos Meimarakhs, o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, me xarakthrise, emena proswpika, prin apo ligo sto radiofwno toy ALPHA, ws akraia empaqh dhmosiografo apenanti toy, o opoios epaneilhmmena exw apodeijei thn empaqeia moy me dhmosieymata. Epeidh egw den qymamai na exw gracei gia ton k. Meimarakh kati allo ta teleytaia dyo xronia, sas erwtw sygkekrimena, loipon, an ayth einai qesh ths kybernhshs na katatassontai dhmosiografoi ws akraia empaqeis h akraia filikoi h otidhpote allo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den parakoloyqhsa th synomilia poy eixate. Eimai bebaios, omws, gnwrizontas ton k. Meimarakh oti se kaqe periptwsh, akomh kai an exei eipwqei etsi opws moy to anaferate, qa htan mia ekfrash ths stigmhs, h opoia mporei na apotypwne kapoia krish, me aformh tyxon erwthsh sas. Den jerw ti syzhthsh egine. Pisteyw oti kai h symperifora toy k. Meimarakh, alla kai olwn twn ypoyrgwn apenanti se Mesa Enhmerwshs, se dhmosiografoys, exei deijei oti se kamia periptwsh den qewroyme dhmosiografoys kinoymenoys ypo allwn krithriwn h elathriwn peran aytwn toy na yphrethsoyn to epaggelma toys.

XIWTHS: Epeidh, pragmati, den exw kai egw thn akribh diatypwsh, giati den to akoysa, moy to meteferan, qa sas parakaloysa na deite th diatypwsh kai na topoqethqeite ayrio ep` ayths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kalws.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, an einai stis proqeseis pia ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei sthn idrysh jexwristoy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei doqei apanthsh sto erwthma ayto, oxi mia, alla toylaxiston dyo fores kai sto press room, alla kai sth Boylh, sth diarkeia -nomizw- twn programmatikwn dhlwsewn.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, an mporei h kybernhsh na mas plhroforhsei, se poio stadio briskontai oi diapragmateyseis poy diejagei to ellhniko Dhmosio me th DEUTSCHE TELEKOM gia thn ekxwrhsh toy 3% twn metoxwn toy OTE kai na mas peite, epishs, ws deytero erwthma, alla sto idio qema, an stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs einai na proxwrhsei se baqos xronoy, mexri to 2013, sthn pwlhsh kai allwn paketwn metoxwn, afhnontas ws elaxisth kratikh symmetoxh to 5% ston Organismo Thlepikoinwniwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizw oti exei kanei analytikes dhlwseis, xqes, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Den exw na pw kati perissotero. Oi dhlwseis exoyn dhmosiopoihqei. Ean xreiazetai kati pio sygkekrimeno, eyxaristws na ton rwthsw, na synennohqoyme kai na exw eidikoterh apanthsh, ayrio. Alla, nomizw oti exei pei polla pragmata analytika xqes, se synenteyjh toy, gi` ayto to qema.

SPYRAKH: Ekana thn erwthsh me bash ta osa eipe profanws o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias, dhladh, gnwrizontas ta osa eipe o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa epikoinwnhsw mazi toy. Qewrhsa oti osa eixe pei, einai arketa analytika, toylaxiston etsi opws ta diabasa egw kai plhroforiaka, gia na dw an yparxei kati perissotero ep` aytoy poy me rwthsate.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia to tragiko peristatiko sth Qessalonikh, me thn apwleia ths zwhs toy odhgoy lewforeioy apo ton drapeth, yparxoyn eyqynes sthn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, qa ekfrasw th qlich olwn kai ths kybernhshs -kai pisteyw, olwn twn Ellhnwn -gia ena tetoio peristatiko. Egw ekproswpw thn kybernhsh kai gnwrizw poly kala oti mia tetoia ypoqesh, h opoia katelhje sto na xaqei, entelws adika, mia anqrwpinh zwh, einai mia ypoqesh poy ejegeirei oloys mas. Kata ta loipa, qa sas pw oti ekdoqhke anakoinwsh apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Eteqhsan, opws gnwrizete, se diaqesimothta oi eji astynomikoi poy apo ta prwta stoixeia ths ereynas, ferontai na epedeijan yperbolikh oligwria kai baria ameleia sthn ektelesh twn kaqhkontwn toys. Den exw kati perissotero ayth th stigmh.

GKOYTZANHS: An moy epitrepete, einai to deytero paromoio peristatiko poy symbainei epi twn hmerwn sas. Kai ta dyo peristatika einai paromoia kai deixnoyn oti den einai mono qema twn astynomikwn, oi opoioi, profanws, den epiteloyn to kaqhkon toys ekeinh thn wra, opws prepei, alla einai ena genikotero zhthma eyqynwn ths fysikhs kai politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti antilambanomai ti ypainisseste. Ekeino to opoio qa sas pw einai oti se ena megalo organismo, opws einai h Ellhnikh Astynomia, opws se kaqe megalo organismo, einai bebaio oti yparxoyn anqrwpoi oi opoioi kanoyn arista th doyleia toys, kapoioi alloi oi opoioi thn kanoyn metria kai sigoyra, kapoioi oi opoioi thn kanoyn kaka h oligwroyn. Dystyxws, exoyme na kanoyme me thn teleytaia kathgoria. Se kaqe organismo mporei na symbei na exeis anqrwpoys oi opoioi na oligwroyn. Gi` ayto ejegeiretai kapoios ws anqrwpos, oxi mono sto an metexei h oxi sto politiko gignesqai, opoiosdhpote poliths, ejegeiretai otan h oligwria ayth fqanei sto na xaqei mia zwh h na kindyneysei mia allh zwh. Ara, loipon, qelw na shmeiwsw oti h antidrash ths Politeias, grhgorh ws pros ayto, eqese se diaqesimothta aytoys toys eji astynomikoys poy krinetai oti eixan thn eyqynh. Kai na eyxhqw na mhn exoyme sto mellon tetoioy eidoys peristatika. Einai dystyxws fainomena poy exoyn parathrhqei kai sto parelqon kai sto prosfato kai to apwtero. Den exw na pw kati perissotero.

FANIDHS: Panw se ayto. Pera apo thn oligwria poy epishmanate, yparxei ena allo qema, to opoio bgainei synexws sthn epifaneia. Oi Ellhnes astynomikoi den einai toso kala ekpaideymenoi gia na mporesoyn na antimetwpisoyn enan aplo tojikomanh. Ton kynhgoysan dekades astynomikoi. Den mporesan na ton syllaboyn kai synebh o,ti synebh. Den prepei loipon na mpei to zhthma sth swsth toy bash; Dhladh, na jekinhsoyme apo thn anadiorganwsh kai ton anasxhmatismo oloklhrhs ths ellhnikhs astynomias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa ypeiselqw se leptomereies, shmantikes men, alla dioikhtikhs yfhs. Den prepei na to kanw apo th qesh poy briskomai. Qa kanw mia poly mikrh ejairesh kai gia ena poly sygkekrimeno peristatiko, opws ayto to opoio sygklonise oloys mas. Giati kata ta loipa, antilambaneste oti h qesh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy den mporei na einai qesh krinontos -krinontos mporei na einai- mpainontas se polles leptomereies gia zhthmata, opws ayto to opoio qetete. Rwthsa kai egw ayto to opoio eipate. Kai fantazomai kaqe poliths qa rwtoyse. Yparxoyn, loipon, safeis odhgies poy ypagoreyoyn me poio tropo ginetai h metagwgh: Oti dhladh qa eprepe na eixan foresei xeiropedes ston sygkekrimeno ypopto, oti bebaiws den qa eprepe na afhsei to tsantaki toy me to oplo anoikto dipla gia na mporei na to parei k.o.k. Plhroforhqhka oti o sygkekrimenos astynomikos eixe ``ekdiwxqei'', eixe metateqei dysmenws se allh yphresia, dioti akribws eixe epideijei oligwria. Prosefyge sth Dikaiosynh, se kapoio dioikhtiko Efeteio kai dikaiwqhke. H apofash toy Efeteioy elege oti prepei na gyrisei pisw. Den prepei na fqasoyme sto allo akro kai na arxisoyme na kanoyme kriseis gia th Dikaiosynh. Giati antilambaneste oti ayto qa dhmioyrghsei ena faylo kyklo, o opoios den qa odhghsei poyqena h qa odhghsei se laqos symperasmata h apajiwtika gia qesmoys poy ofeiloyme oloi na sebomaste. Se kaqe organismo, se kaqe qesmo, isxyei ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws. Sigoyra qa yparxoyn anqrwpoi oi opoioi den yphretoyn swsta, oi opoioi oligwroyn, oi opoioi deixnoyn baria ameleia. H anadiorganwsh sthn opoia anafereste einai mia diarkhs diadikasia kai exei na kanei kai me thn ekpaideysh, exei na kanei me toys anqrwpoys, me tis nootropies kai me thn koinh logikh polles fores, eytyxws h dystyxws.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn idia stigmh poy o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs dhlwnei oti mesa sthn epomenh pentaetia, an qymamai kala, den apokleietai to ellhniko Dhmosio na diathrhsei mono to 5% toy OTE, h k. Loyka Katselh se synenteyjh ths sta ``NEA'' leei oti otan erqei to PASOK sthn ejoysia qa parei pisw ton OTE. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa parei kai to 66% poy poylhse to PASOK;

SPYRAKH: Egw hqela na rwthsw gia mia allh dhlwsh stelexwn toy PASOK poy qewroyn alytrwtikoy periexomenoy ton oro ``Nea Makedonia'' sthn periptwsh poy yparjei ws protash gia na epiteyxqei symbibasmos me ta Skopia. Qelw ena sxolio sas ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se ena idiaitera eyaisqhto eqniko qema opws ayto, qa meinw sta osa exoyn dhlwsei dhmosiws o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Exw epanalabei polles fores, edw, antistoixes dhlwseis. Den qa pw tipote perissotero shmera.

ROYMELIWTH: Xqes, o k. Gkroyefski, se mia kommatikh toy ekdhlwsh, to diabazw epakribws apo th metafrash poy egine, eipe oti to komma toy den qa epitrecei kanena onoma kai symbibasmo poy qa ypagoreysei h Ellada kai xwris prohgoymenws dhmochfisma. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To mono sxolio poy exw na kanw kai oxi me aformh ayth th dhlwsh, alla thn erwthsh sas, einai oti h diapragmateysh ginetai sto plaisio toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Proserxontai ta dyo merh me ton isotimo tropo poy o Organismos Hnwmenwn Eqnwn antimetwpizei tetoies katastaseis. Eyelpistoyme ekei na breqei lysh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to qema toy OTE, epeidh eidame th synenteyjh poy edwse o ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs sthn kratikh thleorash, syggnwmh alla mas doqhke h entypwsh pws telika to management qa ekxwrhqei. Den jerw pws mporei na ginei ayto, alla para tis dhlwseis-desmeyseis ths kybernhshs kai proswpika toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs fainetai oti to management qa ekxwrhqei. Eseis ws kybernhsh, ti lete gi` ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis exoyme milhsei kai ws kybernhsh kai ws antipoliteysh. Exoyme katagracei sto programma mas tis prosqeseis mas edw kai peripoy pente xronia. Sas qymizw oti sto programma mas poy einai safes, anaferetai oti h anazhthsh strathgikoy etairoy gia ton OTE einai politikh mas me to katallhlo management. Einai akribws ayto poy kanoyme.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na epanelqw sto qema toy astynomikoy fiaskoy kai hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Milhsate gia astynomikoys poy, opws se kaqe megalo Organismo, kanoyn arista, metria h kaka th doyleia toys. To qema einai oti me toys misqoys poy pairnoyn kai kaqws ypoxrewnontai polloi apo aytoys na ergazontai kai se deyterh ergasia, mporoyn praktika na einai entajei stis ypoxrewseis toys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na pw oti qa htan prosbolh sth mnhmh toy nekroy anqrwpoy, o opoios exase th zwh toy ejaitias mias oligwrias, na ejhghsoyme ayth thn oligwria, to oti jexase dhladh to oplo toy h oti jexase na balei xeiropedes o sygkekrimenos h oi sygkekrimenoi astynomikoi, epeidh o misqos toy einai a' h b' tajews.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: An moy epitrepete k. Ypoyrge, den anaferomai sto sygkekrimeno peristatiko. Anaferomai sth genikh topoqethsh sas oti kapoioi den kanoyn swsta th doyleia toys sth Astynomia, sto geniko zhthma. Profanws kai egw den anaferomai sto sygkekrimeno peristatiko. Einai profaneis oi ameleies kai oi barytates eyqynes twn astynomikwn sto sygkekrimeno peristatiko.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ara, den gnwrizw ti qelete na peite. Egw milhsa gia Organismoys kai legontas ``Organismoys'', milw gia megaloys Organismoys. Ayto symbainei kai sto dhmosio kai ton idiwtiko tomea. Sto Meso poy ergazeste kai sta Mesa poy ergazetai o kaqenas sas, yparxei plhqwra proswpwn poy ergazetai epishs ws dhmosiografoi, texnikoi k.o.k. Einai bebaio oti exoyme toys aristoys, toys kaloys, toys metrioys, toys kakoys, toys poly kakoys, aytoys poy oligwroyn k.t.l. Qelw na pw oti einai sta anqrwpina metra. Dystyxws, edw, opws kai se orismenes alles periptwseis, exoyme apotelesmata, gia paradeigma sthn iatrikh, stoys giatroys, ta opoia einai eis baros ths zwhs toy idioy toy anqrwpoy. Se alla epaggelmata h se alla leitoyrghmata mporei na exoyme kaka apotelesmata ejaitias oligwrias ta opoia na einai se baros ths cyxikhs ygeias h se baros ths eleyqerias k.o.k. twn opoiwndhpote politwn. Ayto hqela na epishmanw, oti dhladh exoyme, se kaqe periptwsh, anqrwpoys poy oligwroyn h kanoyn kaka th doyleia toys. Den einai dikaiologia ayto. Ws epishmansh, ws diapistwsh to anaferw.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres yphrje mia fhmologia peri anasxhmatismoy ths kybernhshs, h opoia synodeyqhke me mia seira apo dhmosieymata ta opoia ekanan logo kai gia domikes allages. Dhladh, dhmioyrgia qesewn antiproedrwn, peraiterw sygxwneyseis ypoyrgeiwn k.t.l. Den qelw na moy peite, giati gnwrizw thn apanthsh, an protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na proxwrhsei se anasxhmatismo. Qelw, omws, na moy peite, an qelete, ean otan kai ama ginei anasxhmatismos, blepete aytes tis domikes allages; Dhladh, epejergazeste kapoio sxedio domikwn allagwn tetoies, opws perigrafontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws katalabainete, den mporw na sas pw tipote perissotero apo to oti den yparxei kapoio tetoio qema. Den yparxei kati tetoio. Diabasa kai egw dhmosieymata, akoysa tis ``plhrofories'' pollwn...

TSIOYFOS: Den lew gia anasxhmatismo. Allo rwthsa.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katalaba ti rwthsate. Alla antilambanetai kapoios oti otan qetete to ena qema se syndyasmo me to allo, h apanthsh einai ayth poy sas edwsa...

TSIOYFOS: Otan kai ama ginei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na oloklhrwsw thn apanthsh moy. Sas qymizw oti h Nea Dhmokratia, sth deyterh qhteia ths ws kybernhsh, ekane hdh kapoies allages sto kybernhtiko sxhma. Sas qymizw, dhladh, oti sygxwneythkan dyo megala Ypoyrgeia, to Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs kai Dhmosias Tajhs kai egine to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Kai ayto, toylaxiston se polles periptwseis mexri twra, exei apodeixqei oti htan mia swsth politika prajh, h opoia exei kai apotelesmata sth dioikhsh me ta opoia problhmata bebaiws dhmioyrgoyntai. Kai h deyterh htan h synenwsh toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias kai toy Ypoyrgeioy Aigaioy. Paralabame ena kybernhtiko sxhma poly megalytero, paroti dhmioyrghsame ejarxhs ena Ypoyrgeio poy qewroysame aparaithto gia ton topo, to Ypoyrgeio Toyrismoy, afoy o toyrismos einai h baria mas biomhxania. Meiwsame arketa to kybernhtiko sxhma. To idio synebh kai me toys yfypoyrgoys. H dioikhtikh domh thn opoia paroysiase h kybernhsh prin apo eji mhnes, den mporei na allajei mesa se eji mhnes, opws katalabainete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh yparxei ayth h fhmologia toy anasxhmatismoy kai eteqh ws erwthma ston k. Alogoskoyfh. Symmerizetai h kybernhsh thn apoch toy k. Alogoskoyfh oti olh ayth h fhmologia peri anasxhmatismoy anagetai stoys eysebeis poqoys orismenwn kybernhtikwn stelexwn, giati nomizw ekei toys apedwse o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas edwsa hdh apanthsh gia ton anasxhmatismo. Apo kei kai pera den exw kapoio sxolio na kanw. O k. Alogoskoyfhs einai ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs. Den mporei na me rwtate an symmerizetai h kybernhsh, wsan na mhn einai melos ths.

PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws. Epeidh omws ton feroyn ta diafora senaria na metatiqetai h na phgainei spiti toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthse o idios se ayto kai sas edwsa kai egw mia genikh apanthsh gia to ti isxyei kai ti den isxyei.

FANIDHS: Anasxhmatismos eipame den ginetai. Omws kyrie Ekproswpe, oi omades otan kapoios paikths den paei kala ton allazoyn. Eite mikrh eite megalh omada. H Nea Dhmokratia einai mia megalh omada. H Kybernhsh exei mia megalh omada. O k. Tatoylhs fainetai oti den paei kala, oson afora thn synergasia toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai genikotera me to komma. Mhpws hrqe h wra ths allaghs gia ton k. Koykodhmo; Na epistrecei o k. Koykodhmos kai na fygei o k. Tatoylhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmasia exei na kerdizeis prwtaqlhmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw hqela na paw se ena allo erwthma. To teleytaio diasthma, prin th Megalh Ebdomada h sthn diarkeia ths Megalhs Ebdomadas teqhke ena qema me aformh thn ypoqesh toy Kioto. Tote den yphrxe briefing kai bebaiws epikriqhke, sfodra qa elega, o ypoyrgos Periballontos kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn k. Soyflias gia osa exoyn ginei h den exoyn ginei gia thn prosarmogh sthn ypoqesh toy Prwtokolloy toy Kioto. Enas apo toys epikrites toy htan kai o k. Dhmas. Shmera omws ekane mia aixmhrh dhlwsh, aixmhrotath dhlwsh h k. Marietta Giannakoy, perastika ths epi th eykairia, ekane mia dhlwsh sthn opoia eipe yperaspizomenh kai yperamynomenh toy ergoy ths kai ths metarryqmistikhs prospaqeias ths sto ypoyrgeio Paideias oti an den ginotan ayth qa synebaine meta apo liga xronia oti synebh hdh sto ypoyrgeio toy Periballontos. Oti synebh ston tomea toy Periballontos. Ayto pera toy oti einai karfi gia ton ypoyrgo k. Soyflia se ayth thn apoch edrazetai kai mia sygkekrimenh logikh oti den exoyn ola ta metra poy eprepe na ginoyn gia to periballon. H kybernhsh ti leei ap aytoy kai gia ton k. Soyflia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei yparjei apanthsh hdh apo thn kybernhsh, exei yparjei apanthsh apo ton k. Soyflia, h opoia mas kalyptei apolyta.

Sas eyxaristw.

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