Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-04-16

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Tetarth, 16 Aprilioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 132097173

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Aqhna, 16 Aprilioy 2008

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O Ypoyrgos Periballontos Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn k. Giwrgos Soyflias kateqese shmera sth Boylh, pros chfish, to Eqniko Xwrotajiko Sxedio. Prokeitai gia mia apo tis megalyteres diarqrwtikes tomes, mia poly shmantikh allagh, mia metarryqmish me idiaiterh barythta, h opoia dromologeitai. Prokeitai gia mia ejelijh, h opoia bazei oristiko telos se mia terastia ekkremothta poy eixe h xwra mas, se ena keno poy yphrxe sthn Ellada poy einai h teleytaia xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs xwris ena oloklhrwmeno, ena plhres Xwrotajiko Sxedio. H apoysia aytoy toy Eqnikoy Xwrotajikoy Sxedioy einai ena terastio elleimma pollwn dekaetiwn poy h xwra, opws gnwrizete oloi sas, to exei plhrwsei poly akriba toso se sxesh me thn orqologikh anaptyjh kai thn organwsh ths, alla bebaiws kai se sxesh me thn prostasia toy periballontos.

H kataqesh toy Eqnikoy Xwrotajikoy Sxedioy sth Boylh einai meros enos synolikoy eqnikoy programmatos gia to xwrotajiko sxediasmo poy perilambanei kai enan ariqmo Eidikwn Xwrotajikwn Sxediwn poy einai aparaithta gia to periballon kai thn anaptyjh toy topoy. Exoyn katartistei hdh ta Eidika Xwrotajika Sxedia gia tis Ananewsimes Phges Energeias, ton toyrismo, th biomhxania, ton paraktio kai ton oreino xwro.

Oloi oi Ellhnes -kai ayto qelw na to tonisw me idiaiterh emfash- qa gnwrizoyn apo edw kai empros, qa jeroyn me apolyth safhneia, ti mporoyn na kanoyn kai poy. Me ayto ton tropo ejasfalizetai mia swsth organwsh sthn anaptyjh ths xwras mas kai malista se baqos xronoy, alla kai kati poy einai poly shmantiko kai eimai bebaios oti to exoyn syneidhtopoihsei oloi oi Ellhnes polites, h prostasia toy periballontos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Pws qa jeroyn oi Ellhnes sto ejhs ti qa xtisoyn, ti qa kanoyn kai poy qa to kanoyn, apo th stigmh poy den exei ftiaxtei oyte Dasologio akomh, oyte Kthmatologio; Ayta einai proypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws mperdeyete toys oroys kai sygxeete ola ayta ta opoia ginontai me systhma kai me poly kalh meleth, se baqos xronoy, sth xwra mas, ta teleytaia xronia.

KAKALHS: Qa mporoyn na xtisoyn sta dash, dhladh; Ayto mas lete.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Diabaste to Xwrotajiko Sxedio. Exei katateqei sth Boylh. Qa paei sthn armodia Epitroph opoy qa akoystoyn, bebaiws, kai oi foreis oi opoioi qa klhqoyn na kataqesoyn tis apoceis toys. Sth synexeia, den qa paei sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs, opws ginetai synhqws me ta nomosxedia, alla qa mesolabhsei ena diasthma peripoy 15 hmerwn, wste mesa se ayto to xrono, na syzhthqoyn osa exoyn katateqei kai oi qeseis oi opoies exoyn ekfrastei sth Diarkh Epitroph, na ejetastoyn ek neoy kai etsi, to teliko pia sxedio nomoy, ayto poy qa exei diamorfwqei mesa apo ayth th diaboyleysh, th dhmosia diaboyleysh, na paei gia chfish sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs.

KALARITHS: Hqela na rwthsw, epikeitai apomakrynsh toy k. Klada, opws anaferoyn shmerina dhmosieymata;

ANTWNAROS: Epikoinwnhsa me to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai moy eipan oti den yparxei tetoio qema.

KAKALHS: Alhqeyoyn ta dhmosieymata oti o k. Alogoskoyfhs sth xqesinh toy synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo eishghqhke thn apomakrynsh toy k. Klada;

ANTWNAROS: Molis sas aphnthsa.

KAKALHS: Eixe synanthsh o k. Kladas me ton k. Aggeloy, thn perasmenh ebdomada;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me bash ta stoixeia ths Trapezas ths Elladas gia to Dekembrio toy 2007, perissotera apo 215 dis eyrw xrwstoyn noikokyria kai epixeirhseis stis trapezes kai einai mia katastash h opoia fainetai oti den diorqwnetai, antiqetws epideinwnetai. Exete programmatisei kapoia metra ws kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na apotrapei ayth h dysmenhs ejelijh poy kyriws plhttei toys ftwxoys polites;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia anafora se ayto to qema. Eimai bebaios oti oloi oi Ellhnes polites, oi opoioi synaptoyn, gia diaforoys logoys o kaqenas, daneia me tis emporikes trapezes, kanoyn ayto to opoio kanei kaqe swfrwn oikogeneiarxhs: Frontizei, dhladh, wste oi ypoxrewseis tis opoies analambanei na antapokrinontai stis dynatothtes tis opoies exei h kaqe oikogeneia, symfwna me ton oikogeneiako proypologismo, symfwna me ta eisodhmata toy kaqenos. Pisteyw oti oloi qa mporesoyn telika na antimetwpisoyn opoia tyxon problhmata exoyn prokycei.

FANIDHS: Sto idio qema, an moy epitrepete ena deytero erwthma. Dhladh, den qa mporoyse h kybernhsh na parembei wste ayth h megalh calida poy yparxei metajy twn epitokiwn kataqesewn kai pistwtikwn kartwn, gia paradeigma, na meiwqei; Einai adianohto, antilambanomai kai eseis qa to exete skeftei, na pairneis 1% kai 1,5%, otan kataqeteis xrhmata se ena logariasmo Tamieythrioy kai otan kapoios xreiazetai xrhmata apo mia pistwtikh karta, na plhrwnei 18,5%. Yparxei mia terastia diafora.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa mpw sth diadikasia na sxoliasw ton tropo me ton opoio leitoyrgoyn ta xrhmatopistwtika idrymata kai sthn Ellada kai genika se oles tis xwres. Opws jerete, opoy yparxei -kai to lew ayto san mia genikh topoqethsh- kataxrhsh h opoy ginontai pragmata ta opoia den antapokrinontai stis nomimes diadikasies, yparxoyn asfalws elegktikoi mhxanismoi oi opoioi kai diejagoyn toys sxetikoys elegxoys. Den nomizw oti einai oyte dokimo, oyte xrhsimo, oyte wfelimo, na topoqeteitai kaneis me genikologes ekfraseis se tetoia lepta qemata.

KALARITHS: H ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kateqese shmera protash gia systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia ta omologa. Qelw na rwthsw, gia to qema twn omologwn, gia thn kybernhsh, to qema twn politikwn eyqynwn exei kleisei;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei polles fores gi` ayto to qema. Eipate oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kateqese mia sygkekrimenh protash, ena sxetiko aithma sth Boylh. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai gnwsth, einai pagiws gnwsth, sxetika me paromoia aithmata poy anaferontai se zhthmata poy einai antikeimeno, opws ayto, diereynhshs apo th Dikaiosynh. Kata ta alla, kataqeseis tetoiwn protasewn aforoyn th leitoyrgia ths Boylhs, opoy kai tetoies protaseis syzhtoyntai, symfwna me thn koinoboyleytikh tajh.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Ep` aytoy kyrie Ekproswpe. Sto skeptiko ths erwthshs poy kateqese o Proedros toy PASOK kai oi boyleytes toy, yposthrizoyn...

ANTWNAROS: Gia poio qema;

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Ths protashs, syggnwmh, ths protashs ennow, gia th systash ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Shmeiwnoyn, yposthrizoyn oti h kybernhsh ejakoloyqei na sygkalyptei tis diastaseis enos prwtofanoys skandaloy, sth diaprajh toy opoioy symmeteixan amesa h emmesa melh ths kybernhshs. Pws apantate ws kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den protiqemai na anaferqw stoys isxyrismoys poy perilambanontai sth sygkekrimenh protash. Einai gnwsto, omws, se oloys toys Ellhnes polites, ti akribws exei prajei kai malista sygkekrimena, h kybernhsh, wste stis memonwmenes periptwseis kai oxi me th genikologh morfh me thn opoia anaferetai se ayto to qema, to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, wste loipon se aytes tis memonwmenes periptwseis na pesei apleto fws kai na dialeykanqoyn opoia zhthmata endexomenws eixan prokycei. Yparxoyn polloi myqoi oi opoioi synthroyntai profanws gia logoys entypwsiasmoy, gyrw ap` ayto to qema kai den yparxei logos, pleon na ejakoloyqoyn na synthroyntai.

KALARITHS: Giati h kybernhsh den dexetai th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia na mhn synthroyntai oi myqoi kai na dialeykanqei h ypoqesh kai se politiko epipedo;

ANTWNAROS: Giati sas eipa oti to qema brisketai ypo dikastikh diereynhsh.

KALARITHS: (Den akoygetai) to afhnete anoikto;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas einai safhs. Parakalw na anatrejete. Thn exoyme diatypwsei polles fores. Den exei allajei tipote. Den yparxei logos, loipon, na thn epanalambanw.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me reportaz toy radiofwnikoy staqmoy FLASH, enas syllogos edw sthn Attikh paidiwn me eidikes anagkes, an kai exei ejasfalisei kai poroys kai ektash gia thn anegersh sxoleioy gia ta paidia, wstoso den mporei na to pragmatopoihsei, epeidh edw kai tessera xronia to YPEXWDE arneitai na ypogracei. Antilambanomai oti einai eidiko qema, alla wstoso einai kai ena qema me idiaiteres eyaisqhsies kai gi` ayto kai qa hqela...

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete, oloi mas exoyme idiaiterh eyaisqhsia gia toys synanqrwpoys mas me anaphria, poly perissotero otan prokeitai gia synanqrwpoys mas poy einai se mikrh hlikia kai exoyn kapoias morfhs anaphria. Gnwrizete allwste kai tis prwtoboylies poy exoyme parei, tis prwtoboylies tis opoies exei parei kyriws o idios o Ypoyrgos Epikrateias kai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Roysopoylos. Asfalws, omws, opws kai eseis eipate, prokeitai gia ena poly eidiko qema, gia to opoio den eimai enhmeros. Eyxaristws, na metaferw to erwthma sas sto armodio Ypoyrgeio h sta armodia Ypoyrgeia kai na exw to taxytero dynaton mia apanthsh.

KAKALHS: An alhqeyoyn oi isxyrismoi toy k. Zaxopoyloy oti epese qyma symmorias ekbiastwn, tote pws ejhgeite oti h kybernhsh den katafere na prostateysei ena melos ths apo ayth th symmoria, oyte kai oi diwktikes arxes stis opoies eixe, parempiptontws, prosfygei;

ANTWNAROS: Gia mia akomh fora qa sas pw: Den syzhtw edw, qemata poy einai antikeimeno dikastikhs diereynhshs. Gi` ayta ta qemata armodies einai oi diwktikes arxes kai h Dikaiosynh.

KAKALHS: Egw ebala politiko qema, politikh diastash. H kybernhsh miloyse...

ANTWNAROS: Eseis moy qesate ena erwthma to opoio perilambanei polloys oroys toy Poinikoy Dikaioy. Den prokeitai, loipon, egw na anaferqw se qemata Poinikoy Dikaioy.

ZORMPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to kyma aithsewn syntajiodothshs meta thn chfish toy Asfalistikoy nomosxedioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw an oi ariqmoi oi opoioi anagrafontai se merida toy Typoy antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. Den qelw na toys amfisbhthsw, alla den eimai kai apolyta bebaios oti oi ariqmoi aytoi antapokrinontai, opws sas eipa, sthn pragmatikothta. Epeidh pantws, oi ariqmoi aytoi -kai anafereste se orismena dhmosieymata- miloyn gia aithseis, me thn epifylajh poy prohgoymenws dietypwsa, gia prowrh syntajiodothsh dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Qa hqela na dieykrinisw, gia mia akomh fora, oti oi ryqmiseis poy perilambanontai sto asfalistiko nomosxedio poy prosfata chfisthke apo th Boylh kai hdh brisketai sto stadio ths efarmoghs, den aforoyn stoys dhmosioys ypallhloys.

KAKALHS: Qa erqoyn alloi (den akoygetai).

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka molis proxqes. Den exei allajei tipote apo proxqes k. Kakalh.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, wstoso, h idia h Ypoyrgos to afhne anoixto me synenteyjh ths thn Kyriakh...

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. H Ypoyrgos den afhse tipote anoixto. Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti to keimeno ths synenteyjhs ths Ypoyrgoy den perilambanei kati tetoio.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Se sxetiko erwthma leei oti einai proteraiothta to misqologio. Den kleinei, dhladh, to qema toy Asfalistikoy.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka gia na mhn yparjei kamia amfibolia apo endexomenh parermhneia twn oswn eipe h Ypoyrgos. Akribws thn epomenh hmera, ekana mia safh topoqethsh panw se ayto to qema. Mia topoqethsh poy einai taytoshmh me topoqethseis poy ekanan kai oi synarmodioi Ypoyrgoi, o k. Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs kai o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos.

KAKALHS: Na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Klada. Exei steilei epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo, me thn opoia diamartyretai gia parembaseis sto ergo toy, ek meroys toy politikoy toy proistamenoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei tetoia epistolh.

SPYRAKH: Ep` aytoy qa hqela na rwthsw. Exete eseis thn aisqhsh oti h synergasia toy me ton politiko toy proistameno Ypoyrgo Oikonomias k. Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh einai agasth h apo ta mhnymata poy ftanoyn sto Majimoy, yparxei h eikona oti s` ayth th synergasia yparxoyn synnefa;

ANTWNAROS: Ligo prin mpeite sthn aiqoysa, eipa oti epikoinwnhsa me to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai moy eipan oti den yparxei qema me ton k. Klada.

Sas eyxaristw.

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