Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-02-14

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 14 Febroyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 121074444

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 14 Febroyarioy 2008

Xairete.

Stis 12.09, shmera to meshmeri, prin apo ligotero apo mia wra, oi seismografoi kategracan, symfwna me ta stoixeia toy Gewdynamikoy Institoytoy Aqhnwn, sfodrh seismikh donhsh, megeqoys 6,5 baqmwn ths klimakas Rixter, poy proerxotan apo apostash 225 xiliometrwn notiodytika ths Aqhnas. To epikentro ths donhshs entopizetai notia ths Meqwnhs. Mexri ayth th stigmh, apo ta stoixeia poy exw apo th Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias, den exoyn anaferqei zhmies kai, fysika, oyte qymata. Qa hqela kai apo ayth th qesh na parakalesw oloys toys polites na diathrhsoyn thn cyxraimia toys kai na akoloyqoyn toys kanones symperiforas poy isxyoyn se aytes tis periptwseis, kaqws kai tis odhgies, tis symboyles poy didontai apo tis Arxes, mesw twn Meswn Enhmerwshs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLABIANOS: Ep` aytoy, k. Ekproswpe: Thn perasmenh Kyriakh, h efhmerida ``KYRIAKATIKH'', eixe prwto qema, akribws ayto, oti qa ginei seismos 6 Rixter sthn Aqhna. Htan mia problech toy BAN. Exete ypoch sas kati h den exete enhmerwqei ws kybernhsh... ;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy kati tetoio. Opws katalabainete, den exw tis aparaithtes episthmonikes gnwseis gia na kanw opoiadhpote topoqethsh se ena tetoio qema. Qa hqela, omws, na sas pw, epeidh akribws, opws gnwrizoyn oloi, h xwra mas einai mia xwra opoy syxna katagrafontai seismoi, oti olos o kratikos mhxanismos, opws kai ayth th fora, brisketai panta se etoimothta, wste na einai parwn kai me ta stelexh ta opoia diaqetei kai me ta mesa ta opoia exei sth diaqesh toy, opoy ayto xreiastei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eytyxws, k. Ekproswpe, apo to seismo notiodytika ths Aqhnas den yphrje kapoio qyma, opws eipate twra, wstoso omws apo tis epistoles Tatoylh sth Boylh, mallon den bgainoyn alwbhtoi dyo Ypoyrgoi, prwhn synadelfoi toy sto idio Ypoyrgeio, h k. Petralia kai o k. Boylgarakhs idiws, kaqws o k. Tatoylhs stis epistoles aytes pros ton k. Zaxopoylo, milaei gia adiafaneis diadikasies, gia yperbash ejoysiwn kai gia katatmhsh ergwn. Poio einai to epishmo sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, h Diarkhs Epitroph Morfwtikwn Ypoqesewn ths Boylhs diejhgage polywres synedriaseis kata tis opoies topoqethqhkan ola ta melh ths mexri twra politikhs hgesias toy Ypoyrgeioy Politismoy, ennow epi kybernhsewn Neas Dhmokratias. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh, omws, bghkan sth dhmosiothta oi epistoles aytes, pera apo to arxiko sxolio poy kanate, to gegonos oti enas Ypoyrgos blepei kai kataggellei ayta poy kataggellei ston idio ton k. Zaxopoylo, ton Geniko Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy, den shmainei kati; Den shmainei oti kapoy telika ta pragmata phgainan straba; To lew poly xondrika. Den mpainw sto an htan pragmati h den htan, alla shmasia exei oti to epishmainei enas Ypoyrgos, oti synebainan epi qhteias toy.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyn teqei polla erwthmata panw se ola ayta ta qemata se ayton edw to xwro kai exoyn doqei oi apanthseis. Oi apanthseis aytes ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei mia dikastikh ereyna, an den kanw laqos, sto Ypoyrgeio Politismoy, me eisaggelikh paraggelia. Exete kapoia stoixeia sth diaqesh sas gia thn ereyna ayth; Kai an yparxei kapoio xronodiagramma.

ANTWNAROS: Pragmati, ayto einai gnwsto, opws eipate kai eseis, yparxei se ejelijh mia ereyna h opoia ginetai sto Ypoyrgeio Politismoy gi` ayta ta qemata. Kai ginetai, opws eipate, den jerw an einai swstos o oros aytos, alla nomizw oti aytos einai ``me eisaggelikh paraggelia''. Einai kati, omws, poy afora, opws antilambaneste, th leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai sas einai gnwsto oti den sxoliazw pote th leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa epanalabei ayrio sth Boylh ta tria proeklogika ``den'' gia to Asfalistiko, oti den qa ayjhqoyn ta oria hlikias, den qa meiwqoyn oi syntajeis kai den qa ayjhqoyn oi eisfores; H htan tria ``den'' poy eipwqhkan proeklogika gia na yfarpajei th laikh entolh;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Ellhnes polites, me acogh dhmokratikh diadikasia, apefasisan sta mesa Septembrioy perysi, na ananewsoyn thn entolh sto proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Karamanlh kai sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias, akribws, giati jeroyn na ajiologoyn thn ajiopistia, me thn opoia politeyontai kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai h shmerinh kybernhsh. Qa sas parakaloysa, loipon, na perimenete ayrio gia na deite osa exei na pei o Prwqypoyrgos sth syzhthsh poy qa ginei sth Boylh, thn prwth megalh syzhthsh gia to Asfalistiko poy qa ginei sto Koinoboylio. Osa exoyme pei, isxyoyn.

KORAH: To ``den'' toy Prwqypoyrgoy isxyei kai se o,ti afora tis epikoyrikes syntajeis;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa mpw se kanena eidiko qema, poy exei sxesh me to Asfalistiko. Ayrio, ginetai h syzhthsh sth Boylh. Eimai bebaios oti kai eseis qa eiste ekei paroysa, opws kai oi alloi synadelfoi sas. Kai me ayth thn eykairia, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti opws kaqe fora poy exoyme pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh sth Boylh, den qa exoyme enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn. Gia na mhn to lhsmonhsw.

KAKARNIAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poia qa einai h antidrash ths kybernhshs, an meta tis ejaggelies toy k. Karamanlh, synexistoyn oi kinhtopoihseis sto idio metro poy htan kai xqes, as poyme.

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhka kai gia to idio qema, prin apo liges hmeres, proxqes nomizw, se ayth edw thn aiqoysa. Einai gnwsth h anagkh poy yparxei, wste na ginei asfalistikh metarryqmish kai na diasfalistoyn ta dikaiwmata olwn twn Ellhnwn, me tropo dikaio kai apotelesmatiko se baqos xronoy. Einai kati poy exei anagnwristei apo th megalh pleiochfia, th syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo ligo plhroforhqhkame oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh katadikase thn Ellada gia tis amarties ths ``Olympiakhs'', thn periodo 2002-2004, me ena terastio poso. Poia einai h dhlwsh sas ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia amfibolia, to exoyme pei kai alles fores, oti aytos einai enas allos akomh krikos stis dysarestes ejelijeis poy aforoyn sthn ``Olympiakh''. Se ligh wra qa topoqethqei panw se ayto to qema o Ypoyrgos k. Kwsths Xatzhdakhs. Qa hqela na sas parapemcw se ayth th dhlwsh. O Ypoyrgos qa epishmanei, gia mia akomh fora, toys stoxoys toys opoioys qetei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia thn antimetwpish toy sygkekrimenoy problhmatos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to idio qema ths ``Olympiakhs''. Ap` oti katalabainw, den prepei na sas ejeplhje ws kybernhsh h apofash ayth ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, kaqoloy. Oyte eyxarista, oyte dysaresta. Giati egw qymamai ta osa elege o k. Xatzhdakhs kai ws kybernhsh, genikotera, oti perimenete kai qa deite thn apofash, giati yphrxe to endexomeno enos symchfismoy poy htan meta apo protash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs ayto to pragma. Dhladh, na yparjei enas symchfismos xrewn, oytws wste na mporesei na swqei h ``Olympiakh''. Kanw laqos;

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei ayto poy exoyme pei polles fores: Na breqei mia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh gia to mellon ths etaireias. Se ola ta alla qa anaferqei o k. Xatzhdakhs.

ARMENHS: H apofash kyrie Ekproswpe, afora thn periodo 2002-2004, omws h KOMISION ereyna kai tis kratikes enisxyseis thn periodo 2004-2007. Eiste aisiodojos oti qa einai diaforetikh h apofash gi` ayth thn periodo;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na prodikasw kamia apofash. Alla, opws sas eipa, den prokeitai kai na ypeiselqw se leptomereies gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

KORAH: Egw den qelw leptomereies. Qelw na moy apanthsete an einai dynaton se mia allh erwthsh. H apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy, pisteyete oti epitaxynei tis opoies apofaseis ths kybernhshs gia thn ``Olympiakh'';

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete th dhlwsh toy k. Xatzhdakh, o opoios ws armodios Ypoyrgos qa topoqethqei me safhneia, eimai bebaios, sto sygkekrimeno qema.

PARTALIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sygnwmh poy qa sas koyrasw epanerxomenos sto Asfalistiko, alla hqela na sas rwthsw. Ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos qa pei tis qeseis ths kybernhshs. Aytes qewreite oti einai kai oi telikes oi opoies qa apotelesoyn kai to sxedio nomoy poy syntoma qa eisaxqei sth Boylh, h yparxei ena elaxisto periqwrio peraiterw syzhthsewn kai diaboyleysewn;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei se ola ayta ta qemata. Parapempw se apanthseis moy, giati nomizw oti tis hmeres poy eixa topoqethqei gia to sygkekrimeno qema, den hsastan parwn, se ayth edw thn aiqoysa. Allwste, opws gnwrizete, se eylogo xrono, to exw pei kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres, to sxetiko nomosxedio qa erqei sth Boylh, opoy bebaiws ginetai kai sthn Epitroph kai argotera sthn Olomeleia, sto epomeno kai teliko stadio, mia megalh syzhthsh, epi ths oysias.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eixame nees proklhtikes dhlwseis toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn. Htan ena akomh deigma ths adiallakths stashs poy epideiknyoyn oi geitones mas. Ti mporoyme na perimenoyme, mesa se ayto to klima, apo th synanthsh ths k. Mpakogiannh me thn k. Kontoliza Rais;

ANTWNAROS: As perimenoyme thn ejelijh kai thn pragmatopoihsh ths synanthshs. Meta apo th synanthsh, qa sas enhmerwsei h k. Mpakogiannh gia to periexomeno twn synomiliwn poy qa exei shmera to brady wra Elladas, me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn ths Amerikhs k. Rais kai me thn opoia qa syzhthsoyn, opws antilambaneste kai alla qemata. H syzhthsh, symfwna me tis plhrofories poy exw, den qa epikentrwqei apokleistika sto sygkekrimeno qema. H qesh, pantws, ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, nomizw molis proxqes, sas exw pei analytika poia einai. Perimenoyme kai apo thn allh pleyra na proselqei, opws exei ypoxrewsh na kanei, opws exei desmeytei na kanei, me pneyma epoikodomhtiko stis synennohseis, oi opoies ginontai gia thn ejeyresh mias amoibaias koina apodekths onomasias sto plaisio toy Organismoy twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Emeis pisteyoyme oti sto plaisio ayto, mporei na ejeyreqei ayth h lysh poy molis sas eipa.

KAKALHS: O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn eipe oti oi Hnwmenes Politeies einai metajy twn isxyrwn yposthriktwn ths entajhs ths FYROM sto NATO kai taytoxrona yparxei plhroforia oti h amerikanikh kybernhsh prowqei prwtoboylia gia na yparjei nomikh gnwmodothsh sth Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO oti to qema ths onomasias den perilambanetai sta krithria kai ara, den yparxei qema beto.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw, se kamia periptwsh, dhmosieymata h plhrofories twn Meswn Enhmerwshs. H kybernhsh, opws sas exw pei kai alles fores, sebetai apolytws ton empisteytiko xarakthra aytwn twn synomiliwn kai mesa se ayto to plaisio ejakoloyqoyme na epidiwkoyme thn ejeyresh mias amoibaia apodekths onomasias.

KAKALHS: Isws kai eseis ws kybernhsh exete diapistwsei oti oi Hnwmenes Politeies einai metajy twn isxyrwn yposthriktwn ths entajhs twn Skopiwn sto NATO;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio stis dikes sas diapistwseis.

KAKALHS: Oxi dikes moy. Toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn htan.

ANTWNAROS: Den amfisbhtw thn egkyrothta twn plhroforiwn, tis opoies moy metaferete, alla egw den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio stis feromenes diapistwseis toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths geitonikhs xwras.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws qa xarakthrizate eseis, thn prosfath anafora poy ekane o prwhn Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs k. Polydwras, onomastikh anafora se dyo dhmosiografoys sth Boylh, proxqes, me aformh th syzhthsh gia th systash ejetastikhs gia th Siemens, opoy toys kathggeile ws hqikoys aytoyrgoys ths diapompeyshs toy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio, giati den gnwrizw ta pragmatika peristatika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den akoysate ton k. Polydwra na katonomazei dyo dhmosiografoys;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prin apo ligo, to eixate janapei, oti se eylogo xroniko diasthma qa einai etoimo to nomosxedio.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa se ayto. Eipa oti se eylogo xroniko diasthma qa katateqei pros chfish sth Boylh.

TSIOYFOS: Nai. Taytoxrona, omws, proxqes synadelfos sas, elege oti qa chfistei entos peripoy 20-25 hmerwn, meta thn Paraskeyh. Aytos o xronos, to diasthma ayto twn 20-25 hmerwn, toy enos mhna, den qewreite oti einai mikro, prokeimenoy na yparjoyn, an mporesoyn na yparjoyn sygkliseis, synaineseis, syzhthsh epi diaforetikwn apocewn. Lew, mhpws h kybernhsh biazetai kai den afhnei ligo perissotero xrono, wste na yparjoyn, an yparjoyn sygkliseis;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh einai ekeinh, h opoia eixe kalesei oloys toys foreis kai ta kommata, se diejodiko dialogo, me oles tis morfes kai bebaiws sto plaisio ths Boylhs. Synepws, o xronos yphrxe. Kai sas eipa, h telikh syzhthsh, oytws h allws, ginetai sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs kai sthn Olomeleia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy pali, gia to Asfalistiko. Epeidh den mas proideazete akribws kai epeidh...

ANTWNAROS: Kai oyte prokeitai.

PALAIOLOGOS: ... Nai, alla yparxoyn, omws diafores plhrofories, diarroes oti eite qa yioqethsei thn ekdoxh toy sklhroy senarioy h kybernhsh, eite thn ekdoxh toy hpioy senarioy. Toylaxiston, emeis apo thn pleyra mas, ws dhmosiografoi kai ws ergazomenoi, na anamenoyme dysarestes ekplhjeis apo tis anafores toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to Asfalistiko;

ANTWNAROS: Na anamenete ayrio, thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Boylh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla oxi etsi. Dhladh, oyte xwris kanena endiaferon;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti parakoloyqeite oles tis omilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy me megalo endiaferon.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na mhn proetoimastoyme, omws, cyxologika, mhpws einai skotseziko ntoyz;

KORAH: Mhnyma phre h kybernhsh apo th xqesinh sygkentrwsh; Htan mazikotath kai oi ergazomenoi diadhlwsan gia ta asfalistika toys dikaiwmata.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas exw pei kai alles fores, oi ergazomenoi, oi polites olhs ths xwras, exoyn panta to dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn me ton tropo poy ekeino prokrinoyn, me thn proypoqesh oti einai eirhnikos kai filhsyxos, tis apoceis toys. H kybernhsh, opws sas exw pei, exei katalhjei meta apo ayto to dialogo poy egine, se sygkekrimenoys ajones, toys opoioys qa paroysiasei ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos.

KORAH: Epi Asfalistikoy kai pali. Gia ti asfalistikh metarryqmish pantws mporoyme na syzhtame, otan boyleytes, dikastes kai alla retire, opws ta eixe apokalesei kapote o Andreas Papandreoy h kapws diaforetiko poy ta apokalese sth synexeia o k. Karamanlhs, den exoyn mpei mesa sthn asfalistikh metarryqmish.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den sas exei ginei apolyta katanohto oti h en logw asfalistikh metarryqmish afora ekeinoys oi opoioi apasxoloyntai ston idiwtiko tomea.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, ti ennoeite;

KORAH: Dhladh, qa akoloyqhsei, mas lete, poly syntoma kai gia to Dhmosio;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den lew tipota tetoio.

KORAH: Giati sthn arxh h kybernhsh eixe anoijei para poly th bentalia. Miloyse kai gia toys boyleytes, miloyse kai gia toys dikastes kai meta arxise tis ekptwseis.

ANTWNAROS: To kaqe qema exei th dikh toy ajia.

KORAH: Poly megalh ajia einai ayto sto opoio anaferomai, nomizw.

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Kai sas eipa oti...

KORAH: Giati oi pronomioyxoi den qigontai, enw oi ergazomenoi toy IKA kai toy OGA qigontai para poly.

ANTWNAROS: Ayta einai dika sas symperasmata ta opoia den symmerizomai. Epeidh, omws, oles oi erwthseis ginontai panw se eikotologikh bash, as perimenete loipon ayrio  liges wres einai akomh-- thn topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn.

SPYRAKH: Dedomenoy, pantws, oti hdh mas eipate oti h en logw asfalistikh metarryqmish afora ston idiwtiko tomea, egw qa hqela na rwthsw, ean qa akoloyqhsoyn epimeroys ryqmiseis poy qa aforoyn stoys dhmosioys ypallhloys, stoys stratiwtikoys kai stoys boyleytes;

ANTWNAROS: Otan exw kati na sas anakoinwsw, qa sas to pw. Alla eimai bebaios oti exontas kanei olh thn proergasia poy apaiteitai, eseis ws dhmosiografoi gnwrizete oti ayto poy sas eipa den apotelei asfalws eidhsh. To jerete poly kala. Synepws, mhn prospaqeite ayth th stigmh na toy dwsete th morfh mias kainoyrgias eidhshs, dioti den exei th morfh eidhshs. Kai qa parakaloysa para poly na to sebasteite ayto. Einai gnwsto se oloys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto shmainei, epeidh eipate oti qa aforoyn kata kyrio logo oi ryqmiseis ths asfalistikhs metarryqmishs toys apasxoloymenoys ston idiwtiko tomea, oti qa einai prokrima h efarmogh twn ryqmisewn aytwn gia oloys toys alloys ergazomenoys, eite toy Dhmosioy, eite toy idiwtikoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati panw sto qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi. To afhnate na ennohqei oti apotelei prokrima. Gi` ayto kai to rwtw. Dieykrinistika to rwtw ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete se symperasmata, ta opoia den prokyptoyn apo ta osa exw pei egw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pali fantasioplhkta, dhladh, einai kai ayta;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa egw tetoio pragma;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, to lew egw.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw se sxesh me ayta poy eipe xqes o k. Tatoylhs sthn Epitroph Morfwtikwn Ypoqesewn, giati eida oti exete mia genikoterh apanthsh. Qelw na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh symmerizetai thn apoch oti dianemhqhkan 1,4 ekat. eyrw apo to G' K.P.S. xwris oroys kai krithria.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto to qema, to eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: An den exoyn tipota allo gia ton Tatoylh, giati apo o,ti blepw exete periorisei to qema toy Tatoylh, to exete kleisei. Einai mia erwthsh, h opoia afora genikotera, mia poy eiste kai kaq` ylh armodios gi` aythn...

ANTWNAROS: Egw gia ena pragma eimai kaq` ylh armodios.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia thn enhmerwsh twn dhmosiografwn.

ANTWNAROS: Na sas enhmerwnw oso to dynaton plhrestera.

PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws. Kai epeidh akribws ayto kanete  kai to kanete me kalo tropo apo o,ti blepw...

ANTWNAROS: Sas eyxaristw poly gia ta kala sas logia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gi` ayto kai perimenw mia apanthsh, loipon, sthn erwthsh, ean h kybernhsh qewrei oti to thleoptiko kanali NOVA, h NETMED, qa prepei na perasei se jena funds, kati poy qa exei diafores epiptwseis se sxesh me to dhmosio symferon. Dhladh, qa elegxqei h NOVA apo jenoys ependytes, me apotelesma na parakoloyqoyntai ta ellhnika kanalia apo doryforikh ekpomph kai ola ayta ta sxetika apo doryforo genikotera (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Prwta apo ola, den mporw na sas apanthsw, dioti den jerw to sygkekrimeno qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wraia, na to janakanw pio liana, tote. Eikazetai oti h NOVA qa perasei se jena funds, se jenoys ependytes. Kai afoy den exete plhroforhsh, egw sas rwtw ean qa exei epiptwseis qa einai qema sto dhmosio symferon. Dhladh, den qewreite eseis oti to gegonos oti qa perasei se jena funds qa elegxqoyn kai diafora pragmata poy aforoyn ellhnikes ekpompes, ean qa yparjei genikoterh parakoloyqhsh h otidhpote allo;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

KAKALHS: Epeidh den qa exoyme ayrio briefing, hqela na kanw mia erwthsh gia to Kossobo. Thn Kyriakh, symfwna me oles tis endeijeis, qa yparjei anakhryjh ths anejarthsias toy. H kybernhsh qa speysei apo tis prwtes xwres na anagnwrisei thn anejarthsia, parolo poy anagnwrizete oti ayto einai antiqeto me to Dieqnes Dikaio kai synista kai epanaxarajh twn synorwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati gia ena ypoqetiko qema, to opoio moy qetete, dhladh ti qa ginei, endexomenws, se dyo hmeres. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti h shmerinh kybernhsh exei mia apolyta jekaqarh qesh panw sto qema toy Kossoboy, thn opoia molis prin apo liges hmeres sas aneptyja. Ayth h qesh ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa to syzhthsei h k. Mpakogiannh sth Nea Yorkh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa kanei enhmerwsh h k. Mpakogiannh meta tis epafes ths.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete erwthqei, alla qa epanelqw. Yparxei qema epistrofhs toy k. Koykodhmoy sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias, meta ...

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthsei hdh o k. Roysopoylos.

GKATSIOS: Na synexisw. Pws sxoliazete thn eikona enos boyleyth, opoioydhpote boyleyth, o opoios se thlefwnikh epikoinwnia fainetai oti parakala kapoion dhmosiografo na mhn dwsei to onoma toy sth dhmosiothta.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia ton k. Klada exete kapoio sxolio shmera; Den yparxoyn neoteres ejelijeis;

ANTWNAROS: Eseis oi dhmosiografoi rwtate emena an yparxoyn ejelijeis;

PALAIOLOGOS: Na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Yparxei qema paraithshs toy k. Klada apo thn Yphresia Eidikwn Elegxwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias;

ANTWNAROS: Den exei allajei tipota apo thn teleytaia fora poy kanate thn idia akribws erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi thn teleytaia fora, giati xqes egine mia synanthsh metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfh kai gi` ayto to zhthma. Kai epeidh syzhthqhke, ayto to jeroyme apo reportaz, gi` ayto kai sas rwtw. Yparxei qema apomakrynshs toy entos oligwn hmerwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo edw kai sto ejhs qa exoyme aysthrh kommatikh peiqarxia se ola ta dyskola qemata poy qa erxontai sth Boylh;

ANTWNAROS: Xrhsimopoieite mia ekfrash kai enan oro, ton opoio kaneis apo emas den xrhsimopoihse. Isxyoyn, loipon, osa eipame o k. Roysopoylos kai egw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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