Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-02-12

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 12 Febroyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 120744201

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Febroyarioy 2008

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" Synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia opws gnwrizete, asxolhqhke me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. O Ypoyrgos k. Fwlias exei hdh probei se dhlwseis, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy. Eidikotera, to qema poy syzhthqhke shmera einai h akribeia sthn agora. H hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs exei mia seira apo metra, ta opoia lambanei kai protiqetai na labei kai sto ejhs, etsi wste na periorisei to kyma akribeias sthn agora. Stis arxes ths epomenhs ebdomadas qa doqei h analytikh synenteyjh Typoy, opoy qa anakoinwqoyn ta sygkekrimena metra poy exoyn apofasistei apo to ypoyrgeio, se synennohsh, fysika, me thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

" Ayrio stis 10.00, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton epitimo Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Kwnstantino Mhtsotakh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qelw na kanw dyo synafeis erwthseis: Kat` arxhn, poio htan to antikeimeno  an qelete mas to lete- ths koinhs synergasias toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Ypoyrgo PEXWDE, k. Soyflia kai ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati perissotero. Nomizw htan qemata armodiothtas twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh eipe o k. Paylopoylos, afhse na ennohqei, peri koinwn armodiothtwn kai caxnw na brw poies einai oi koines armodiothtes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia seira apo qemata -mporw na rwthsw, omws, kai na sas pw, eilikrinws, den rwthsa- armodiothtwn kai twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Opote, h epomenh erwthsh einai, poios zhthse to ranteboy; O k. Mhtsotakhs kai gia poio pragma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O epitimos Proedros. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn kai alles synanthseis sto parelqon. Dhladh, mh dinete kapoia allh diastash.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Kladas, ejakoloyqei na apolambanei thn empistosynh ths kybernhshs kai twn politikwn proistamenwn toy, toy k. Alogoskoyfh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apanthqei to erwthma. Den exei allajei tipote.

KAKALHS: Afoy h kybernhsh eixe kocei ta xeria twn kerdoskopwn, twra giati zhtaei th bohqeia twn katanalwtwn gia na antimetwpisei thn akribeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws, xrhsimopoiwntas ayth th frash, anafereste se mia dhlwsh toy k. Fwlia, gia to ti metra protiqetai na parei.

KAKALHS: Nai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Perimenete na akoysete ta metra, ta opoia exei hdh epejergastei edw kai poly kairo to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai nomizw oti mporoyme na ta syzhthsoyme en synexeia, stis arxes ths epomenhs ebdomadas.

KAKALHS: Kartel yparxoyn sthn agora;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi diadikasies poy throyntai, opws gnwrizete poly kala, throyntai pista apo ayth thn kybernhsh. Yparxei h Epitroph Antagwnismoy, yparxoyn nomoi oi opoioi prepei na thrhqoyn. Ekeino to opoio h kybernhsh prospaqei diarkws me ola ta organa ths Politeias, einai na enisxysei toys elegxoys prokeimenoy na katapolemhqei h kerdoskopia.

KAKALHS: To opoio den exei kataferei. Tessera xronia, twra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipame pote oti einai ena eykolo ergo.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis: H prwth afora sto an exei allajei kati sth stash ths kybernhshs me bash ta nea dedomena poy proekycan xqes apo th magnhtofwnhmenh synomilia, poy paroysiase sthn ekpomph toy o k. Makhs Triantafyllopoylos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Exei apanthqei kai pali ayto to erwthma, allwste.

SPYRAKH: Nai. To deytero poy qelw na rwthsw, pisteyete dhladh oti to magnhtofwnhmeno ntokoymento einai to idio me to keimeno to opoio exei diabastei se prohgoymenh ekpomph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na kanw sxolia gia thn ypoqesh. Exw pei oti eixa na pw apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs. Tipote perissotero.

SPYRAKH: Na rwthsw kai kati allo: Se sxesh me thn Ejetastikh Epitroph kai to endexomeno na systaqei, efoson oloklhrwqei h dikastikh ereyna gia thn ypoqesh ths Siemens, h kybernhsh paramenei anoixth se ena tetoio endexomeno kai se poio xrono prosdiorizei ayto to endexomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O tote Prwqypoyrgos, erwtwmenos thn perasmenh Paraskeyh apo ton Proedro toy Synaspismoy ton k. Alabano -giati sth synexeia anelabe Proedros o k. Tsipras, ston opoio eyxomaste ta kalytera sth nea doyleia poy analambanei, sth nea toy poreia- exei apanthsei, hdh, analytika sth Boylh se ayto to qema poy lete. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, pws eide h kybernhsh ta apotelesmata ths ereynas ths Public Issue, ths dhmoskophshs kai ta poiotika xarakthristika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis.

TSORAKHS: Ena sxolio gia th xqesinh eisbolh melwn toy PAME sto stoyntio toy SKAI kai th diakoph toy deltioy eidhsewn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanw ena geniko sxolio: Se mia dhmokratikh Politeia oi kanones ths Dhmokratias ofeiloyn na einai sebastoi apo oloys. Yparxei h dynatothta ths ekfrashs apocewn mesa sto plaisio twn kanonwn aytwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Gia to qema toy k. Koykodhmoy kai thn apomagnhtofwnhmenh synomilia, yparxei mia shmasia, h opoia einai h ejhs: Oti afoy thn perasmenh ebdomada h ypoqesh eixe paei sto arxeio, me apofash ths eisaggelews, qewrhqhke apo kapoioys, telos pantwn, kai apo plhrofories poy grafhkan ston Typo, oti arqhkan kai oi logoi poy eixan odhghsei sthn anejarthtopoihsh toy k. Koykodhmoy kai oti eixe anoijei o dromos gia thn epistrofh toy sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada. Ayta ta dedomena pia, me to apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno, allazoyn. Etsi den einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw apo poioys qewrhqhke ayto poy lete. H epilogh toy boyleyth gia thn anejarthtopoihsh, htan mia proswpikh toy epilogh.

KAKALHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti yparxei dynatothta ekfrashs, alla den sas exw akoysei na milate gia ton apokleismo twn apocewn toy KKE apo ta MME, symfwna me ta stoixeia toy ESR, poy einai sxedon anyparkth h probolh twn qesewn toy apo ta MME, ta opoia, opws jerete, diaxeirizontai dhmosia agaqa.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw milhsei polles fores, oxi mono edw, alla kai sth Boylh, me aformh antistoixes erwthseis poy moy exoyn ginei. Exw apanthsei se o,ti afora thn Ellhnikh Radiofwnia-Thleorash, dhladh, th dhmosia thleorash. Kai apo thn allh pleyra se o,ti afora tis idiwtikes thleoraseis kai ta ypoloipa MME, ta idiwtika radiofwna klp, h anafora moy einai pantote h idia: H ypoxrewsh olwn twn Meswn, h opoia aryetai apo to Syntagma, eidika twn hlektronikwn Meswn poy pairnoyn dhmosia syxnothta me adeia apo to ellhniko Dhmosio, me tis gnwstes diadikasies, einai ypoxrewsh tetoia poy odhgei sthn paroysiash olwn twn apocewn me  qa elega- kata kapoion tropo analogia ths ekproswphshs poy exoyn ta kommata sth Boylh. Einai prosklhsh poy exei apeyqynqei, polles fores, apo emena proswpika.

SPYRAKH: Exete enhmerwqei gia to prwino peristatiko ston OTE, poy plhroforoymeqa oti den epetraph ston k. Tsipra kai sthn kamera kai stoys dhmosiografoys poy ton synodeyan, h episkech; Ti akribws synebh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Oxi.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw qa epimeinw sthn ypoqesh Klada-Koykodhmoy, kyriws me aformh tis dhlwseis toy k. Tragakh. Eipate apo poy prokyptei to symperasma oti exei allajei kati. O k. Tragakhs, omws, shmera, milwntas se kapoio radiofwno, den jerw biasthke, egine ayto meta apo synennohsh, kataferqhke me sklhrh glwssa kata toy k. Koykodhmoy, legontas oti toy eipe cemata. Hdh, ton exei katadikasei o k. Tragakhs ton k. Koykodhmo, me bash to xqesino apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno ths synomilias poy eixe o k. Koykodhmos me ton k. Triantafyllopoylo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H erwthsh poy moy teqhke apo ton k. Gkoytzanh htan diaforetikoy typoy, opws antilambaneste. Allo htan to nohma ths erwthshs poy moy egine prohgoymenws. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero. Den gnwrizw poia einai h dhlwsh toy Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se o,ti afora ton k. Koykodhmo ayto. Giati edw yparxoyn dyo proswpa poy emplekontai sthn ypoqesh. O k. Koykodhmos gia ton opoio eipe o k. Tragakhs, shmera toylaxiston, enw mexri proxqes den ekane kamia dhmosia topoqethsh o k. Tragakhs kai gi` ayto thn epikaloymai logw ths spaniothtas twn dhlwsewn toy k. Tragakh kai apo thn allh gia ton k. Klada, den jerw, qa kanw mia stereotyph erwthsh: Ean synexizei na apolambanei ths empistosynhs, oxi mono toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfh, alla kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den rwthqhka prohgoymenws k. Palaiologe;

PALAIOLOGOS: Den jerw an sas rwthsa, gia to an apolambanei ths empistosynhs...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prin apo pente lepta rwthqhka.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai apanthsate oti apolambanei; Giati...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. Sas parakalw poly.

GKOYTZANHS: H erwthsh htan genikh kai ontws apanthse o k. Ekproswpos. Egw qelw na to qesw ligo diaforetika. H ypoqesh poy bghke gia ton k. Klada htan entelws diaforetikh. Eixe na kanei me to rolo toy ws dikhgoroy palaiotera sthn ypoqesh toy paidioy apo thn Mytilhnh kai...

PALAIOLOGOS: Den egine ayto. Zhtw syggnwmh.

GKOYTZANHS: ... kateqese enantion ths oikogeneias. Ayto htan to reportaz. To erwthma gia mena einai an yparxei kapoio hqiko zhthma me bash ayto gia ton k. Klada.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Kladas qa kanei dhlwsh se ligh wra. Den einai ta pragmata etsi opws paroysiasthkan.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, diaceydontai h epibebaiwnontai oi plhrofories poy exoyn diarreysei ston Typo gia to Asfalistiko poy fainetai na qigontai ta oria hlikias kai oi syntajeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw milhsei egw proswpika gia to Asfalistiko. Thn Paraskeyh exoyme pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh, h opoia ginetai katopin aithmatos ths kybernhshs. Den exei allajei tipota sta osa sas exw pei.

KAKALHS: Ean epalhqeyontai oi plhrofories oti qa kataqesete to nomosxedio to asfalistiko se treis-tesseris ebdomades, amesws meta thn...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sas pw kati perissotero. Otan apofasistei apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, qa anakoinwqei kai epishmws.

PALAIOLOGOS: Profanws kati qa jerei o synadelfos gia na rwthsei sxetika me to xrono ths kataqeshs toy Asfalistikoy. Egw qelw na rwthsw poios o logos...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwtame otan den jeroyme kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia na to rwta etsi me ayto ton tropo kati exei maqei, kati exei plhroforhqei. Egw hqela na rwthsw, poios einai o logos tote, afoy den exei allajei kati, na teqei zhthma kommatikhs peiqarxias stoys boyleytes, gia to Asfalistiko panta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poios eqese ayto to qema;

PALAIOLOGOS: H kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poios; Peite moy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Otan lete poios; H kybernhsh, to Megaro Majimoy, h Genikh Grammateia ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas afhnoyn na ennohqei oti exei teqei qema kommatikhs peiqarxias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw den mporw na sas ypodeijw pws qa kanete th doyleia sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Thn jerete kalytera emoy th doyleia ayth, alla lew oti den to arnhqhke h kybernhsh. Exei ginei. Exei teqei dhladh qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ara, dia ths eis atopon apagwghs einai oi plhrofories;

KOTTARIDHS: Epibebaiwnete h diaceydete thn plhroforia poy dhmosieyetai shmera ston Typo twn Skopiwn oti h ellhnikh protash gia to qema ths onomasias (den akoygetai) Dhmokratia ths Makedonias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ellhnikh protash einai dhmosia gnwsth. Th qymaste. Den exei allajei apo tote.

RABANOS: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh sto erwthma toy k. Palaiologoy. Isxyei h den isxyei h kommatikh peiqarxia gia toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias sthn chfish toy nomosxedioy. Nai h oxi; Einai aplh h apanthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei mia seira apo qemata, ta opoia anefere stis programmatikes dhlwseis, gia ta opoia phre thn chfo twn Ellhnwn politwn kai janaegine kybernhsh. Metajy aytwn einai kai to asfalistiko zhthma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto poy lete, shmainei kommatikh peiqarxia.

GKOYTZANHS: Ean den tiqetai qema kommatikhs peiqarxias gia th shmerinh chfoforia kai gia thn chfoforia ths Paraskeyhs, ayto shmainei oti eseis lete pws oi boyleytes sas mporoyn na chfisoyn kata syneidhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa epanalabw ti leei o Kanonismos ths Boylhs kai ti leei to Syntagma. Apo ekei kai pera, gnwrizete oti to Asfalistiko einai to qema to opoio h kybernhsh eixe sthn atzenta ths apo thn prohgoymenh qhteia ths. Sthn proeklogikh periodo analyqhke. To qema ayto analyqhke, epishs, stis programmatikes dhlwseis. Oloi oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias chfisan tis programmatikes dhlwseis. Einai ena meizon zhthma kybernhtikhs politikhs.

GKOYTZANHS: H shmerinh Ejetastikh Epitroph einai kai ayto meizon zhthma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthqhke polles fores kai apo emena to qema kai exei dwsei hdh apanthsh, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, o Prwqypoyrgos sth Boylh.

KAKALHS: O k. Andrianos, ws melos ths ESHEA, poy desmeyqhke apo to dhmosiografiko aporrhto, qa aperghsei ayrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa mporoysa na kanw pws den akoysa thn erwthsh kai den apanthsa. Nomizw oti den tairiazei...

KAKALHS: Sobara legate gia dhmosiografiko aporrhto. Ara, sta sobara tiqetai kai to zhthma...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti den tairiazei oyte sto diko sas hqos, oyte sto hqos toy Giannh Andrianoy, ton opoio gnwrizete para poly kala edw kai para polla xronia. Toylaxiston to teleytaio poy qa toy armoze qa htan mia eirwnikh erwthsh.

KAKALHS: Kaqoloy eirwnikh, an moy epitrepete, giati sta sobara elege aytos gia dhmosiografiko aporrhto, parolo poy hjere oti den isxye kati tetoio. Htan metaklhtos ypallhlos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apanthqei polles fores to erwthma sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to Asfalistiko. Thn prosexh Paraskeyh qa to paroysiasei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Ekana thn erwthsh ayth kai xqes ston k. Antwnaro. Eiqistai prin apo thn paroysiash enos nomosxedioy, enos krisimoy zhthmatos, na synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph gi` ayto to qema. Epeidh to Asfalistiko to teleytaio diasthma eixe xaqei apo tis Kybernhtikes Epitropes, dhladh den exei perasei, exoyn enhmerwqei kai oi alloi ypoyrgoi h pera apo toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys exei perasei apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph wste na katateqoyn kai oi alles protaseis, na yparjoyn endexomenws tropopoihseis, beltiwseis, opws lete eseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti stoxeyete sto na breite mia diaforetikh diatypwsh sthn apanthsh apo ayth poy sas edwse o anaplhrwths Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos xqes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den moy edwse apanthsh o anaplhrwths Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei, loipon, ayto poy sas eipe.

Sas eyxaristw.

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