Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-12-13

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 13 Dekembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 110765613

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H ENHMERWSH TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO EYAGGELO ANTWNARO(131207)

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 13 Dekembrioy 2007

Xairete.

Qa sas diabasw eisagwgika thn dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, meta thn ypografh ths Synqhkhs ths Lisabonas, gia osoys den th gnwrizoyn: ``H shmerinh ypografh ths Synqhkhs ths Lisabonas, shmatodotei thn oloklhrwsh mias makras, epiponhs, alla kai kaqoristikhs diadikasias gia to mellon ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H xwra mas diadramatise energo, oysiastiko rolo stis prospaqeies aytes kai eimaste ikanopoihmenoi apo thn epityxh ekbash toys.

H ejelijh ayth endynamwnei toys eyrwpaikoys qesmoys, kaqista thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh ikanoterh na antapokriqei pio apotelesmatika stis nees proklhseis. Twra, koinos stoxos einai h epikyrwsh ths Symfwnias apo ta Koinoboylia twn kratwn melwn kai malista prin apo tis Eyrwekloges toy 2009. H Ellada protiqetai na epikyrwsei th Symfwnia ths Lisabonas to taxytero dynato. Telos, qa hqela na ypogrammisw th shmantikh symbolh twn xwrwn poy askhsan thn Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs olh ayth thn periodo, kai bebaia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs''.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KEFALA: Exw mia erwthsh, afoy milame gia Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Hqela na jerw poia htan h qesh ths Elladas gia thn Eyrwmesogeiakh Enwsh kai h protash oysiastika toy Nikola Sarkozi. Exoyme dei oti h k. Merkel exei dhlwsei ton skeptikismo ths gia to sxedio ayto kai qelw na jerw ean exete enhmerwqei, poia einai h qesh toy k. Karamanlh...

ANTWNAROS: Gia ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to Symboylio Koryfhs kai me tis syzhthseis poy ginontai sth Lisabona enhmerwnei, ekei epitopoy, o k. Roysopoylos. Opws gnwrizete, h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kanei epaneilhmmenws syzhthseis gia to qema ths stenoterhs synergasias, metajy twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai twn xwrwn poy brexontai apo th Mesogeio. Exoyn ginei polles syzhthseis me tis xwres oi opoies endiaferontai kai ekeines gia paromoioys logoys me emas, gia mia embaqynsh ayths ths synergasias.

KALFOPOYLOS: Prwton, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw an exete qymisei ston k. Leibada to qema ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas dwsw thn apanthsh to grhgorotero dynaton.

KALFOPOYLOS: Den einai kati poy epeigei, oytws h allws. Deyteron, qa hqela, gia thn epomenh fora h dynaton, na exoyme mia ektimhsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs h toy armodioy h twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgeiwn, gia th symmetoxh ths Elladas sthn pagkosmia Syndiaskech gia to klima sto Mpali.

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws, h opoia, opws jerete, oloklhrwnetai twra, shmera-ayrio.

KALFOPOYLOS: Nai, ayto: Mia prwth ektimhsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia th symmetoxh ths sthn Pagkosmia Syndiaskech kai an exoyme kai kati parapanw se sxesh me ta synarmodia Ypoyrgeia kai poy egine to mperdema.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth th stigmh na sas pw perissotera apo thn topoqethsh thn opoia ekane poly prosfata o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Soyflias, sxetika me th Syndiaskech sto Mpali kai gia thn klimatikh allagh, dieykrinizontas kai ta dyo qemata ta opoia qesate. Eyxaristws na sas enhmerwsw ektenestera thn epomenh ebdomada. Enhmerwtika sas lew oti thn erxomenh ebdomada h synanthsh mas anti gia Pempth qa ginei Tetarth, dhladh mia mera nwritera, thn dia wra, stis 14:30, ston idio xwro. Qa thn kanoyme nwritera dioti thn Pempth einai h teleytaia hmera ths syzhthshs toy proypologismoy sth Boylh kai ginetai arga to brady, ta mesanyxta, h chfoforia.

FLORES: Meta apo th xqesinh genikh apergia, 12 toy mhnos, prwta ap ola poia einai h antidrash ths kybernhshs, gia th symmetoxh kai ton ogko ths diadhlwshs kai an me kapoio tropo protiqetai na allajei, na metatopisei tis protaseis poy exei gia to Asfalistiko, metajy allwn.

ANTWNAROS: Moy eteqh prohgoymenws akribws h idia erwthsh sthn enhmerwsh poy ekana stoys synadelfoys toy, toy ellhnikoy Typoy. Eipa kai to epanalambanw: Opws sas exw pei, einai dikaiwma olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn na metexoyn se diadhlwseis, dhmosies sygkentrwseis, synaqroiseis, oi opoies prepei na ginontai symfwna me to nomo, se eirhniko plaisio kai me eirhniko tropo. H kybernhsh akoyei oles tis apoceis sto plaisio toy dialogoy, ths syzhthshs poy diejagetai. To qesmiko plaisio, sto opoio ginetai o dialogos, einai sth Boylh. O dialogos aytos, h syzhthsh ayth, ginetai gia thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos, thn anagkh ths opoias exei diapistwsei h megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kata ta alla, oi qeseis ths kybernhshs exoyn diatypwqei pera apo kaqe amfibolia, me apolyth safhneia, stoys treis kykloys syzhthshs, dialogoy, poy diejhxqh sta plaisia ths Boylhs. Aytoi oi treis kykloi  sas to ypenqymizw-- eixan kaqorisqei me koinh symfwnia olwn oswn eixan klhqei na metasxoyn sto dialogo, dhladh twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs poy ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn kai twn koinwnikwn etairwn. H kybernhsh dexotan kritikh mexri prin apo liges ebdomades, giati dhqen den eixe kataqesei tis protaseis ths kai ara xwris thn kataqesh twn protasewn den mporoyse na ginei dialogos. Epixeirhma poy oytws h allws den eixe bash. Oi protaseis yparxoyn. Twra, synepws, h mh proseleysh, h mh symmetoxh sto dialogo einai kaqara prosxhmatikh. Panw stis protaseis --poy kateqese h kybernhsh kai oi opoies, opws sas eipa, einai katagegrammenes sta praktika ths Boylhs, opws exoyn ginei dia stomatos twn armodiwn Ypoyrgwn k. Maggina kai k. Alogoskoyfh-- einai fysiko na synexistei o dialogos. Alla, h kybernhsh diaqetei sygkekrimenes protaseis tis opoies kai exei kataqesei.

FLORES: Mporeite na mas peite poies einai aytes oi protaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa mpw se analysh twn protasewn. Oi protaseis aytes einai ekteneis. Tis exei paroysiasei poly analytika o k. Magginas kai qa hqela na sas parakalesw na tis diabasete.

FLORES: Tote, na rwthsw kati allo. Dhladh, mporw na pw oti h kybernhsh kathgorei thn antipoliteysh oti den exei erqei se dialogo; Arneitai to dialogo;

ANTWNAROS: To ti qa peite, afora esas. Egw ekeino to opoio sas lew einai oti h kybernhsh exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths kai o dialogos einai akomh se ejelijh. Prepei kai oi alloi na proselqoyn sto dialogo --ekei poy ginetai o dialogos kai qesmika ginetai sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn-- wste na proxwrhsoyme oloi mazi se ayto poy oloi qewroyn, edw kai xronia, ws aparaithto, dhladh thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos.

KORIDH: Mporeite, parakalw, na sxoliasete tis teleytaies dhmoskophseis gia ta dyo kommata poy exoyn th dysareskeia toy kosmoy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. De sxoliazw pote dhmoskophseis. Oi dhmoskophseis einai mia katagrafh ths stigmhs.

TSAFOS: Egw antimetwpizw to ejhs problhma: Den mporw na ejhghsw pws ginetai na yparxoyn peripoy 3.000, symfwna me thn astynomia, laqrometanastes, epishma laqrometanastes kai oxi kapoioi poy diaqetoyn paramonh sthn Ellada, perij toy limanioy ths Patras, oi opoioi na kanoyn kai epiqeseis sto limani kai h Ellhnikh Astynomia na phgainei ekei, na syndialegetai me aytoys poy ekanan epiqesh sto limani, na toys leei ``deije moy poios se xtyphse apo to plhrwma toy  Leyka Orh '', na mhn yparxei dynatothta ayth na ypodeijoyn ton ypeyqyno kai akoloyqws oloi na phgainoyn sta spitia toys.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to sygkekrimeno peristatiko. Gnwrizw oti sthn Patra yparxei mia syrroh laqrometanastwn. Oi Arxes prospaqoyn na antimetwpisoyn to qema me oso to dynaton perissotero anektiko tropo. Ki ayto to lew giati asfalws antilambaneste oti yparxei kai h anhsyxia toy topikoy plhqysmoy poy aisqanetai oti me th megalh paroysia laqrometanastwn ekei, endexomenws brisketai ypo piesh. Oi plhrofories poy exw einai apo tritoys. Antilambanomai oti pairnontai ola ekeina ta metra ta opoia xreiazontai wste na doqei lysh sto qema ths paramonhs aytwn twn anqrwpwn, oi opoioi den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti briskontai paranoma sth xwra. Kaqe xwra, opws fysika kai h Ellada, qelei oi anqrwpoi poy briskontai entos twn synorwn ths na kinoyntai sta plaisia ths nomimothtas. Apo thn allh meria, kapoioi apo aytoys toys anqrwpoys proerxontai, ap` o,ti antilambanomai, apo xwres opoy to nomiko plaisio den einai apolyta safes. Den einai synepws eykolos o epanapatrismos toys. Lambanontai, loipon, ola ekeina ta metra, wste kai h zwh aytwn twn anqrwpwn poy briskontai paranoma sth xwra mas na einai ypoferth, alla kai na mh dhmioyrgoyn problhmata ston topiko plhqysmo.

FLORES: Apo ayto poy katalabainw, h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kanei merikes protaseis sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, panw sto qema ths laqrometanasteyshs. Poy brisketai ayto; Apo ayto poy katalabainw exei zhthsei kai lefta, na yparxei mia koinh politikh, poy brisketai; Kai epeidh h Ispania paizei rolo s` ayto...

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ginontai megales prospaqeies, wste olo ayto to qema na antimetwpistei apo koinoy. Yparxei to grafeio FRONTEX, fer` eipein, to opoio kentrika gia oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, antimetwpizei, xeirizetai kapoia apo ayta ta qemata. H Ellada exei kanei, epishs, sygkekrimenh protash gia th dhmioyrgia mias koinhs Eyrwpaikhs Aktofylakhs, dioti pisteyei oti --opws sas eipa kai thn perasmenh fora-- to problhma den einai problhma to opoio mporei na antimetwpisei kaqe mia apo tis xwres ths Notias Eyrwphs jexwrista monh ths. Kai synepws, prepei oles oi xwres ths Notias Eyrwphs, alla kai h oi xwres ths Kentrikhs kai ths Boreias Eyrwphs, opoy exoyn thn proqesh na kateyqynontai synexws aytoi oi laqrometanastes, na drasoyn, opws poly syxna symbainei sta plaisia ths Eyrwphs, syllogika, wste na breqoyn koines lyseis. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh katateinoyn oi prospaqeies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai ekei apoblepoyn oi epafes tis opoies kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Bebaiws, ginontai diapragmateyseis metajy ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, wste na metexei kai h Ellada ston katamerismo twn kondyliwn poy problepontai gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy qematos, pragma poy ginetai hdh sthn prajh.

KEFALA: Epeidh exw parakoloyqhsei omada ths FRONTEX kai perasa nyxtes mazi toys, edw sthn Ellada, apo oti katalaba den einai mono ekei to zhthma. Ta problhmata ta antimetwpizoyn pio poly oi Ellhnes synoriofylakes.

ANTWNAROS: Einai ontws polla ta problhmata. H ellhnikh synoriogrammh, gia paradeigma, einai oso einai olh h perimetros ths Afrikhs. Einai terastia h synoriogrammh pros fylajh. Kai den einai eykolh apostolh gia toys antres kai tis gynaikes, stoys opoioys exei anateqei --ennow to Limeniko Swma, oi synoriofylakes, h Ellhnikh Astynomia-- h fylajh twn ejwterikwn mas synorwn. Qa hqela, omws, na mhn janampoyme se ayth th megalh syzhthsh poy kaname thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, dioti den exw na sas dwsw perissotera stoixeia apo ayta poy sas eipa thn perasmenh ebdomada. Eimai bebaios, oti poly syntoma qa exoyme konta mas toys ekproswpoys twn armodiwn Ypoyrgeiwn, poy qa mporesoyn na sas dwsoyn pio akribeis plhrofories apo aytes poy mporw na sas dwsw egw, pera apo to perigramma poy sas edwsa thn perasmenh fora.

FLORES: Exw erwthsh gia thn energeia. O k. Doykas htan sth Libyh proxqes kai exei (den akoygetai) th boylhsh ths Elladas na ferei fysiko aerio apo th Libyh sthn Krhth. Ayto einai gia na katsei sthn Ellada h na paei meta sthn ypoloiph...

ANTWNAROS: Einai qema gia to opoio den exw, ayth th stigmh, proxeirh apanthsh. Bebaiws, o k. Doykas, phgainontas me ellhnikh oikonomikh apostolh ws armodios Yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn gia to sygkekrimeno tomea (exei kanei kai alla tajidia o k. Doykas, htan prin apo ligo kairo sthn India, exei programmatismena, apo oso gnwrizw kai alla tajidia, epikefalhs emporikwn kai oikonomikwn apostolwn) ekeino to opoio kanei einai kyriws na endiaferetai gia thn prowqhsh twn dimerwn emporikwn kai oikonomikwn sxesewn.

FLORES: Pote perimenoyme apofash apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kati sygkekrimeno.

FLORES: Giati, apo ayto poy katalabainw, h kybernhsh perimenei kapoia apofash apo ekei (den akoygetai) ti qa kanei.

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn perasmenh ebdomada den exei allajei tipote.

FLORES: Ara h apofash ths kybernhshs ejartatai apo ayto, ti qa ginei me to qema ths Olympiakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, ejartatai apo polla dedomena, ta opoia den einai ola gnwsta, ayth th stigmh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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