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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 28 Noembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 108240886

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 28 Noembrioy 2007

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" Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. O k. Alogoskoyfhs ejerxomenos exei kanei dhlwseis. Wstoso, qa sas pw kai egw kapoia pragmata, giati h Kybernhtikh Epitroph shmera asxolhqhke apokleistika me thn idrysh toy Eqnikoy Tameioy Koinwnikhs Synoxhs me nomosxedio poy qa erqei sth Boylh apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

H ftwxeia kai oi koinwnikes anisothtes apoteloyn kentrika zhthmata poy antimetwpizoyn oles oi koinwnies, akomh kai oi pio aneptygmenes. To problhma ths ftwxeias ojynetai apo th dieqnopoihsh twn oikonomiwn kai thn entash toy antagwnismoy se pagkosmio epipedo. Ektos apo ta zhthmata poy qetei h dieqnopoihsh twn oikonomiwn, sth xwra mas exoyme pleon na antimetwpisoyme th meiwmenh apotelesmatikothta twn koinwnikwn dapanwn. Para to gegonos oti oi koinwnikes dapanes -ws pososto toy AEP sth xwra mas- einai sxedon isodynames me to meso eyrwpaiko epipedo, molis to 13% twn atomwn poy briskontai katw apo ta oria ths ftwxeias, katafernei na yperbei to orio ayto, meta tis koinwnikes metabibaseis. To antistoixo pososto sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai sto 38,5%.

H anapotelesmatikothta twn koinwnikwn dapanwn sthn Ellada antanaklatai sto pososto twn atomwn poy zoyn katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias, meta tis koinwnikes metabibaseis, to opoio paramenei staqero ta teleytaia xronia, peripoy sto 20% mexri to 2004 gia to opoio diaqetoyme kai stoixeia. Basikh aitia ths xamhlhs apotelesmatikothtas twn koinwnikwn dapanwn ths xwras mas, einai to gegonos oti oi dapanes aytes, ta prohgoymena xronia, den htan stoxeymenes se aytoys poy pragmatika exoyn anagkh. Gia ta eisodhmata toy 2004, to orio ths ftwxeias anerxotan sta 5.649,78 eyrw ana atomo ethsiws. Gia ena noikokyrio me dyo enhlikoys kai dyo ejartwmena paidia katw twn 13 etwn anerxotan sta 11.864 eyrw, dhladh, peripoy 1000 eyrw to mhna gia mia oikogeneia me dyo anhlika paidia.

Me bash ta eisodhmata toy 2004 kai pali, to 19,6% twn politwn ths xwras htan melh noikokyrioy me eisodhma katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias, enw gia ta eisodhmata toy 2003 to antistoixo pososto plhqysmoy htan sto 19,9%.

To pososto ths ftwxeias einai ychlotero stis gynaikes, stis opoies einai sto 20,9%, se sxesh me toys antres opoy einai sto 18,3%.

Epishs, einai shmantiko oti to pososto gia atoma hlikias anw twn 65 etwn ypologizetai sto 27,9% toy synolikoy plhqysmoy, enw gia atoma hlikias 16 ews 24 etwn einai sto 22,7%. Dhladh, sta hlikiaka akra einai poly megalyteros o kindynos ths ftwxeias.

H kybernhsh exei th diakhrygmenh proqesh na antimetwpisei ayth thn pragmatikothta. H sygkalych toy problhmatos sto parelqon eixe ws apotelesma na diathreitai kai na diogkwnetai ayth h dysaresth katastash. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, pro mhnwn, sth diarkeia ths omilias toy sthn Ekqesh Qessalonikhs ekane eidikh anafora sto zhthma twn koinwnikwn metabibasewn. Me to sxedio nomoy gia thn idrysh toy Eqnikoy Tameioy Koinwnikhs Synoxhs ginetai ena apofasistiko bhma. Me to bhma ayto den ejaleifetai to problhma amesa, alla mpainoyn oi baseis gia na allajoyn ta pragmata. Den einai dynato mia koinwnia na proxwraei mprosta, xwris na strefei to blemma se aytoys poy pragmatika exoyn thn anagkh ths Politeias.

Gia thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos ths ftwxeias h kybernhsh pragmatopoihse shmantika bhmata ta prohgoymena triamisi xronia, para to gegonos oti egine parallhla me megalhs ektashs dhmosionomikh prosarmogh, gia na meiwqei -opws gnwrizete- to elleimma poy paralabame to 2004.

Ena megalo kai shmantiko bhma poy exei ginei ws twra, einai h meiwsh ths anergias. Exei meiwqei panw apo 3 ekatostiaies monades apo to Martio toy 2004 kai brisketai sto 7,6% ton Aygoysto toy 2007. H meiwsh ths anergias apotelei oysiastikh proypoqesh gia thn antimetwpish ths ftwxeias. Dioti, o kindynos ths ftwxeias gia toys anergoys einai poly megalyteros.

Parallhla, proxwrhsame sthn ayjhsh kata 18% toy epidomatos anergias apo to 2007. Ayjhsh poy qa fqasei synolika sto 30% th dietia 2007-2008, symballontas me ton tropo ayto sthn antimetwpish ths ftwxeias oswn gia opoiodhpote logo breqoyn sthn anergia.

Mia allh shmantikh prwtoboylia poy exoyme labei einai h ayjhsh toy EKAS kai twn syntajewn toy OGA kata 22% apo fetos kai me analogo pososto apo thn arxh toy 2008. Kai parallhla, exei idryqei me nomoqetikh prwtoboylia toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn apo koinoy me to Ypoyrgeio Apasxolhshs kai Koinwnikhs Prostasias, ena Tameio gia th sthrijh twn anergwn se perioxes poy dokimazontai apo thn apobiomhxanish kai exoyn ychla pososta anergias. Sas qymizw to paradeigma ths Naoysas, to opoio antimetwpise ad hoc h kybernhsh.

Sthn kateyqynsh ayth kineitai to sxedio nomoy gia thn idrysh toy Eqnikoy Tameioy Koinwnikhs Synoxhs. To Tameio ayto qa xrhmatodotei me bash sygkekrimena antikeimenika krithria, oloklhrwmena programmata poy qa parexoyn stoxeymenh eisodhmatikh enisxysh se osoys sympolites mas exoyn pragmatika anagkh. Qa sas dwsw merika paradeigmata, xwris na shmainei oti qa perioristoyme mono se ayta. Milame gia makroxronia anergoys, gia anergoys me eidikes proypoqeseis, gia foithtes apo ftwxes oikogeneies, gia xamhlosyntajioyxoys, eisodhmatikh sthrijh se perioxes, opws aytes poy antimetwpizoyn megala problhmata anergias  opws h Naoysa poy anefera prohgoymenws- monogoneikes oikogeneies kai alla.

Ta programmata, loipon, qa einai stoxeymena kai pisteyoyme, akoloyqwntas to protypo twn ypoloipwn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, oti qa epityxoyme antistoixa apotelesmata me to meso oro ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ton opoio anefera prohgoymenws.

Stoxos, loipon, twn drasewn poy xrhmatodotei to Tameio einai h shmantikh meiwsh toy posostoy ftwxeias mesa sthn epomenh pentaetia. Gia na mporesei na ekplhrwsei toys stoxoys toy, to Tameio epixorhgeitai amesws me thn idrysh toy me 100 ekatommyria eyrw kai qa enisxyqei ta epomena xronia stadiaka me poso poy jekina apo 500 ekatommyria eyrw to 2008 kai qa fqasei, stadiaka opws eipa, ta 2 disekatommyria eyrw ethsiws. To poso poy qa kataballetai stoys dikaioyxoys qa diamorfwnetai me bash sygkekrimena antikeimenika, koinwnika krithria. Oi stoxeymenes draseis einai to kleidi gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy problhmatos.

" Ayrio, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs qa milhsei sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias, sth Boylh. Ayrio to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei me th fregata ``Cara'' gia ton 'Ah Strath, synodeyomenos apo toys Ypoyrgoys Eqnikhs Amynas k. Baggelh Meimarakh, Politismoy k. Mixalh Liaph kai Emporikhs Naytilias k. Giwrgo Boylgarakh.

" Thn Paraskeyh, stis 09.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa egkainiasei to Moyseio Dhmokratias Ah Strath, opoy akoloyqws qa jenaghqei sthn proswrinh ekqesh me qema ``Ektopish, politikes eleyqeries kai dhmokratia, apo ton eqniko dixasmo sth Metapoliteysh'', apo toys epimelhtes ths ekqeshs Eyanqh Xatzhbasileioy, Epikoyro Kaqhghth toy Tmhmatos Istorias kai Arxaiologias toy Panepisthmioy Aqhnwn kai Swthrh Riza, Dieyqynth Kentroy Ereynhs kai Istorias toy Neoteroy Ellhnismoy ths Akadhmias Aqhnwn. Qa jenaghqei epishs, apo th Dieyqyntria Syllogwn ths Eqnikhs Pinakoqhkhs k. Olga Mantzafoy-Polyzoy sthn ekqesh xaraktikwn, ``H xaraktikh ths Basws Katrakh kai toy Tassoy, mhnyma symbolo''.

" Na shmeiwsw -exei kanei hdh dhlwsh h armodia Ypoyrgos k. Ntora Mpakogiannh- oti h Ellada qa symbalei, oso mporei kai me apofasistikothta, sthn koinh prospaqeia poy jekinhse sthn Annapolh twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn, gia thn eirhneysh sth Mesh Anatolh. H xwra mas, opws gnwrizete, htan mia apo tis liges xwres poy eixe prosklhqei se ayth th synanthsh, toso se eyrwpaiko oso kai se pagkosmio epipedo. Qa prospaqhsoyme kai qa askhsoyme, sto metro poy mas analogei, oles ekeines tis draseis, oles ekeines tis prwtoboylies poy qa epibebaiwsoyn kai qa enisxysoyn to rolo mas, ws paragonta eirhnhs, staqerothtas kai synergasias sthn eyryterh perioxh ths Anatolikhs Mesogeioy.

" To Sabbato, 1h Dekembrioy kai wra 11.00, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn qa khryjei thn enarjh leitoyrgias toy neoy Protypoy Kentroy Filojenias Laqrometanastwn sto Baqy Samoy. Prokeitai gia to deytero Kentro Ypodoxhs kai Filojenias poy kataskeyazetai apo to Martio toy 2004. Prohghqhke to Kentro toy Dhmoy Kyprinoy sto Nomo Ebroy. To kostos kataskeyhs toy Kentroy ths Samoy, anhlqe sto poso twn 2.537.000 eyrw, enw o jenodoxeiakos ejoplismos jeperase tis 150.000 eyrw. Proselhfqhsan apo th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh kai hdh ergazontai, ennea atoma diaforwn eidikothtwn. H xwrhtikothta toy Kentroy fqanei sta 280 atoma, opoy qa diamenoyn se 11 oikiskoys oi opoioi diaqetoyn oles tis apaitoymenes aneseis gia th diabiwsh twn atomwn poy qa ypodexontai, metajy allwn kai thleoptikoys dektes me doryforika programmata gia na einai se qesh na parakoloyqoyn enhmerwsh apo tis xwres poy proerxontai. To neo Kentro diaqetei iatreio me ton anagkaio iatriko ejoplismo kai estiatorio me dynatothta taytoxronhs sitishs ews 80 atomwn. Yparxoyn ghpeda gia thn aqlhsh, kartothlefwna sto proaylio kai alla stoixeia ta opoia qa bohqhsoyn toys anqrwpoys aytoys, oso kairo meinoyn ekei, na perasoyn oso to dynato kalytera, se anqrwpines synqhkes.

" Se ena allo qema toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn: Ypegrafh xqes kai apestalh stoys Perifereiarxes gia amesh efarmogh to neo qesmiko plaisio gia thn idrysh kai leitoyrgia paidotopwn. Me thn koinh ypoyrgikh apofash epanaprosdiorizetai kai aploysteyetai h diadikasia adeiodothshs toys, lambanontas tis katallhles merimnes gia thn asfaleia twn paidiwn. To yparxon plaisio toy 2003 apodeixqhke ellipes, kaqws ryqmizei zhthmata paidotopwn poy leitoyrgoysan ws amigeis epixeirhseis se kleistoys xwroys, me paixnidokataskeyes. Plhqos, omws, tetoiwn paixnidokataskeywn leitoyrgoyn se diaforoys xwroys, akoma kai ypaiqrioys, xwris elegxo, me profaneis kindynoys gia ta paidia. Gia toys logoys aytoys, katesth epitaktikh h anagkh epanakaqorismoy toy nomoqetikoy plaisioy. Metajy allwn, problepontai:

-Kaqorizetai rhta h ennoia toy paidotopoy.

-Prosdiorizontai ta protypa asfaleias twn paixnidokataskeywn kai o tropos synthrhshs toys.

-Qespizetai ygieionomikos elegxos apo tis armodies yphresies gia tis ygieionomikes ypodomes twn xwrwn poy den problepontan apo thn prohgoymenh koinh ypoyrgikh apofash.

-Epiballontai aysthres xrhmatikes kai dioikhtikes kyrwseis gia thn parabash twn orwn leitoyrgias toy paidotopoy.

Osoi paidotopoi leitoyrgoyn hdh, prepei ews tis 2 Febroyarioy toy 2008, na exoyn prosarmostei stis nees apaithseis, eidallws qa sfragistoyn. Qa sas dianemhqei yliko gi` ayth th drash kai gia alles draseis apo to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw poso sobara lambanei h kybernhsh tis proeidopoihseis boyleytwn ths sympoliteyshs oti me toys xeirismoys ths sto Asfalistiko endexetai na kindyneysei stis epomenes ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei se sxetikes erwthseis. Den qa pw tipote perissotero.

RABANOS: Kata th xqesinh 24wrh apergia twn dhmosiografwn o ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs k. Magginas apefyge na synanthqei me to Proedreio ths ESHEA, omws synanthqhke me ekproswpoys twn mhxanikwn. Ekei emfanisthke anendotos oson afora thn kybernhtikh protash gia thn enopoihsh twn Tameiwn. Se epipedo koinwniko, diamorfwnetai ena sygkroysiako pedio, opws yposthrizoyn kai polloi boyleytes kai kybernhtika stelexh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.. H kybernhsh skeftetai na allajei taktikh, na apofygei to sygkroysiako pedio poy diamorfwnetai h na akoloyqhsei mia pio diallaktikh politikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qewrei oti o dialogos, o opoios jekinhse me prwtoboylia ths, einai h monh lysh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh eipate gia dialogo, xqes o k. Magginas synanthqhke me toys ekproswpoys twn mhxanikwn. Shmera, o ekproswpos twn mhxanikwn, enas apo aytoys poy htan sth synanthsh, ekane dhlwseis sta MME kai eipe oti o k. Magginas toys eipe pws aytes einai oi kybernhtikes apofaseis. Ti dialogos ginetai tote; Etsi opws to metefere, emoiaze san aplws na toys anakoinwnei tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei apo thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw pragmata ta opoia exoyn eipwqei kai malista metaferqei ws logia alloy ypoyrgoy. Qa pw, dioti qymaste oti yphrxe mia epikrish pros thn kybernhsh giati den exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths, oti h kybernhsh eipe pws qa kataqesei tis qeseis ths me thn enarjh toy dialogoy. Ayto kai prattei. Ara, loipon, den mporei apo th mia na kathgoreitai h kybernhsh oti den exei qeseis kai otan h kybernhsh kataqetei tis qeseis, na kathgoreitai giati exei qeseis. Antilambanetai kapoios oti ayto einai oytopiko. Den mporei na apodwsei, en pash periptwsei, sth logikh kanenos. Se kaqe periptwsh, h kybernhsh exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths sto dialogo poy ginetai sth Boylh kai einai fysika shmantiko na symmetexoyn se ayto to dialogo oles oi pleyres ekeines poy endiaferontai gia to Asfalistiko.

TERZHS: Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs h allagh ths dynatothtas prowrhs syntajiodothshs twn gynaikwn poy exoyn anhlika tekna;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmera, o k. Magginas ekane tis sxetikes anafores, ean den kanw laqos -den exw, omws, enhmerwqei apolytws- sthn armodia Epitroph. Ara, loipon, epeidh den exw prolabei, epeidh hmoyn sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph poy synedriaze, na parakoloyqhsw parallhlws kai to ti exei diemhfqei, den mporw na apanthsw se sxetikes erwthseis shmera. Qa parakalesw na kanete ligh ypomonh.

TERZHS: Na to epanadiatypwsw: An yparxei tetoia proqesh, tetoia skech, tetoia protash, opws mas eipate, synista allagh stashs se sxesh me to den ayjanontai ta oria hlikias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, opws gnwrizete, den apantw se erwthseis me ``ean''. Deyteron, se o,ti afora ta oria hlikias, exoyme topoqethqei safws. Ta oria hlikias -65 gia toys andres kai 60 gia tis gynaikes- den qigontai. Se o,ti afora eidikotera to zhthma twn gynaikwn, gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth h kybernhsh aneptyje mia allhlografia etwn me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, h opoia katelhje sto na parapemfqei h xwra mas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, giati ayth h kybernhsh arnhqhke na ferei sta idia oria th syntajiodothsh twn gynaikwn me ayth twn andrwn. Exoyme, loipon, ekpefrasmenh kai sthn prajh politikh apoch gia to zhthma to opoio me rwtate.

KAKALHS: Phre h kybernhsh kapoio mhnyma apo th xqesinh prwtofanh diadhlwsh twn dhmosiografwn; Shmainei kati gia thn kybernhsh to oti ta sxedia ths gia tis allages sto Asfalistiko synantoyn thn kaqolikh antidrash twn dhmosiografwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas eipa, h kybernhsh exei anoijei to dialogo, o opoios qa odhghsei sth beltiwsh toy Eqnikoy Systhmatos Koinwnikhs Asfalishs. Einai anoikth sto na akoyei tis protaseis olwn kai na syzhta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Se ayto to dialogo poy exei proteinei h kybernhsh fainetai h antipoliteysh kai kyriws h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh na mhn deixnei kalh qelhsh na symmetasxei. An ayto synexistei mexri to telos, h kybernhsh qa chfisei to Asfalistiko monh ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh chfisthke gia na kybernhsei ton topo. Kata synepeia, qa akoloyqhsei ayto to opoio syntagmatika ofeilei na kanei. Dhladh, jekinhse ena dialogo  exei symbei kai me alla qemata ayto sto parelqon- o dialogos qa oloklhrwqei kapoia stigmh kai en synexeia h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei, me bash ta apotelesmata toy dialogoy, sthn kataqesh sxetikoy nomosxedioy sth Boylh.

SPYRAKH: Exete sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma se o,ti afora thn oloklhrwsh toy dialogoy, dedomenoy oti ta mhnymata poy eixame apo thn arxh ayths ths syzhthshs oti den mporei na einai aenaos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi akoma. Den exw na pw kati perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh exei qeseis kai einai anoikth na dexqei kai alles protaseis. Ekeino poy den mporw na katalabw einai pws den mporei h kybernhsh na peisei orismenoys apo toys dikoys ths boyleytes. Ti protiqetai na kanei gia na toys peisei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw sxoliasei antistoixh erwthsh. Opws eipa kai sthn k. Spyrakh sthn arxh, den qa epanelqw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw rwtw ti qa kanei gia na toys peisei, giati yparxoyn diafwnies.

RABANOS: Eixate anaferqei proxqes sto qema ths kommatikhs peiqarxias. O k. Magginas, xqes, symfwna me plhrofories, eqese qema...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eixa rwthqei gia thn kommatikh peiqarxia kai eixa apanthsei.

RABANOS: Nai, exete apanthsei. O k. Magginas xqes, symfwna me plhrofories, eqese qema kommatikhs peiqarxias stoys boyleytes. Sas briskei symfwno ayth h apoch;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ayto poy moy lete.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh chfisthke gia na kybernhsei ton topo, alla den chfisthke gia na katedafisei ta asfalistika dikaiwmata. Den exei tetoia laikh entolh. Den mporeite na epikaleiste, dhladh, laikh entolh gia na proxwrhsete se katedafish twn asfalistikwn dikaiwmatwn. Se ayto ti lete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apoch sas profanws einai oti prowqeitai katedafish. H apoch mas einai oti enisxyetai to asfalistiko systhma, to opoio ean den beltiwqei shmera qa katedafistei apo mono toy se liga xronia. Einai loipon shmantiko na bohqhsei kapoios na mh ginei ayth h katedafish poy lete. Einai shmantiko na blepei kapoios ta pragmata katamata. Na blepei thn alhqeia. Einai ypoxrewsh, opws eipa kai proxqes, pros tis epomenes genees. To Asfalistiko den einai ypoxrewsh enanti aoristwn filiwn h exqrikwn dynamewn. Den yparxoyn tetoies. Den einai maxh, den einai polemos poy ginetai. To Asfalistiko einai h synaisqhsh eyqynhs poy prepei na exei mia kybernhsh, otan ta pragmata exoyn fqasei ekei poy diapistwnei kapoios oti phgainoyn apo to kako sto xeirotero, na stamathsei ayth thn kaqodikh poreia. Na bohqhsei na enisxyqei to asfalistiko systhma me tropoys tetoioys poy qa to kanoyn na epibiwsei. Einai dhladh synaisqhsh eyqynhs apenanti stoys neoys anqrwpoys. Aytoys poy brhkan doyleia shmera, poy qa broyn doyleia ayrio.

KAKALHS: Eipate gia alhqeia, alla h alhqeia einai oti to 65% twn syntajioyxwn pairnei tis syntajeis katw apo 600 eyrw. Ayto akribws, h metarryqmish toy Asfalistikoy, opws thn apokaleitai, den to antimetwpizei. Antiqeta, ejomoiwnei pros ta katw tis syntajeis kai ayjanei ta oria hlikias. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eidate apo thn arxh, eisagwgika, monos moy ekana mia seira anaforwn me poly sygkekrimena stoixeia gia thn katastash ths ftwxeias sthn Ellada shmera. Ta stoixeia den eginan mono kai mono gia na yparxoyn katagegrammena sta keimena sas. Eginan, giati akoloyqhse mia politikh poy exei apofasisei h kybernhsh. Mia politikh poy blepete oti erxetai se synexeia twn oswn exei kanei apo to 2004 kai meta, para tis dyskoles dhmosionomikes synqhkes.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe epeidh kanate genikws kai eseis kapoies anafores gia to Asfalistiko epitrecte moy kai emena mia pio genikh erwthsh. Apo oles tis ekqeseis poy exoyme dei kata kairoys, apo thn perifhmh ekqesh Spraoy prin apo xronia mexri kai to sxedio Giannitsh mexri kai tis teleytaies ekqeseis, epi dikh sas kybernhsews, toy k. Analyth, yparxoyn kapoia pragmata sta opoia oloi symfwnoyn oti gia na antimetwpisqei to Asfalistiko se baqos xronoy xreiazetai prwton, h antimetwpish ths eisforodiafyghs, deyteron, h antimetwpish ths paranomhs apasxolhshs, ths ``mayrhs ergasias'', triton, h ajiopoihsh ths perioysias twn Tameiwn kai tetarton to na antimetwpistoyn ta dioikhtika elleimmata twn Tameiwn. Dhladh oi megales diarroes poy yparxoyn sthn ajiopoihsh twn porwn poy mporei na ftanoyn mexri kai 30%. Fysika exoyn eyqynes, einai megalo to qema, oles oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis. H kybernhsh sas sta 4 ayta xronia poy proetoimazotan gia na ``anoijei'' to Asfalistiko, ti exei kanei se aytoys toys tomeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn eisforodiafygh, opws gnwrizete, exei ginei mia seira apo energeies kai synexizoyn na ginontai elegxoi. Qelw na shmeiwsw -kai nomizw oti lew to aytonohto- oti xreiazetai o kaqenas apo emas na symmetexei sth diadikasia ayth. Ennow oti oi elegxoi apo thn pleyra ths Politeias, eite einai kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias eite kybernhsh PASOK, qa ginontai allote entonotera allote ligotero entona. H dikh mas symmetoxh, toy kaqe polith, se diadikasies oi opoies einai paranomes  symmetoxh wste na tis kataggeiloyme aytes tis diadikasies kai na tis stamathsoyme- einai ejisoy shmantikh an oxi shmantikoterh. To Asfalistiko, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, den einai zhthma mias kybernhshs, kybernhshs Neas Dhmokratias h kybernhshs PASOK. To Asfalistiko afora oloys mas. Afoy mas afora oloys, ofeiloyme oloi na bohqhsoyme kai me alloys tropoys. Den egkalw kanenan, giati kindyneyei na parejhghqei h frash an meinei ``jekremasth'' etsi opws thn eipa ston aera. Lew omws oti einai shmantiko an diapistwnei kapoios eisforodiafygh, ean diapistwnei kapoios oti ginetai antikeimeno ekmetalleyshs ``mayrhs ergasias'', na mporei na exei th dynath fwnh na to kataggeilei. H Politeia qa staqei arwgos dipla se ayton ton anqrwpo. Opoios dhladh Ellhnas poliths mporesei na kataggeilei mia tetoia doyleia -giati edw den prokeitai pia gia doyleia ayto poy perigracate einai doyleia- na einai bebaios oti h Politeia qa staqei arwgos sthn prospaqeia toy ayth. Giati ayth h prospaqeia den einai mono atomikh, einai syllogikh en telei. Aytoi oi opoioi eisforodiafeygoyn, poioi einai; Einai melh toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy; Einai opadoi h en pash periptwsei stelexh kommatwn; Einai Ellhnes polites, oi opoioi profanws patane na pw se adynamies nomoy; Den eimai toso baqys gnwsths twn qematwn gia na sas pw an einai adynamies nomoy h an einai mono ayto. Sigoyra pantws einai nootropies. Kai nootropies einai, epishs, poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme.

PALAIOLOGOS: Molis twra eipate ston synadelfo moy oti to Asfalistiko den einai zhthma mias kybernhshs, oti einai diaxroniko. Tote na rwthsw me th seira moy giati den synainesate eseis ws antipoliteysh otan to 2001 h kybernhsh Shmith me thn perifhmh ypoqesh Giannitsh, phge na dei to Asfalistiko se baqos, as to poyme, dekaetiwn kai eseis arnhqhkate.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti qymamai kalytera ta pragmata apo oti ta perigrafete. Pisteyw oti tote o k. Shmiths brhke megalyterh yposthrijh apo th Nea Dhmokratia, para apo to idio toy to komma.

Sas eyxaristw.

" Ayrio, Pempth 29/11, ejaitias ths synedriashs ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias, den qa pragmatopoihqei h kaqhmerinh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn.

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