Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-10-30

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 30 Oktwbrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 103397877

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 30 Oktwbrioy 2007

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Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h Kybernhtikh Epitroph opoy syzhthqhkan qemata ths armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn. O Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos exei hdh probei se dhlwseis, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy. Na sas pw mono oti metajy twn qematwn, kyriarxo rolo eixe h empeiria h opoia apokthqhke apo tis pyrkagies toy perasmenoy kalokairioy. Hdh o k. Paylopoylos se nomosxedio poy syzhteitai sth Boylh aytes tis hmeres, exei prosqesei -apo thn empeiria ayth- shmeia ta opoia bohqoyn, wste na antimetwpistoyn me leitoyrgikotero tropo ta problhmata poy antistoixws h xwra mas antimetwpizei sxedon kaqe kalokairi sto epipedo ths Politikhs Prostasias kai toy syntonismoy.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 10 to prwi, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Papa kai Patriarxh Alejandreias kai Pashs Afrikhs k. Qeodwro B'. Stis 10.30, qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Swthrh Xatzhgakh.

Meta to telos ths enhmerwshs qa sas doqei apo toys synergates moy h epistolh poy esteile, xqes, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos ston Proedro ths Epitrophs Politikwn Eleyqeriwn Dikaiosynhs kai Eswterikwn Ypoqesewn toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy k. Zan Mari Kabanta, opoy anaferetai eidikotera sto qema ths laqrometanasteyshs, ena zhthma poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas entona ta teleytaia xronia. Allwste, sto qema ayto hdh anaferqhkame kai sto press-room, aytes tis hmeres, me aformh dikes sas erwthseis. Opws qa diapistwsete, h epistolh qigei to zhthma ths laqrometanasteyshs, twn oswn h xwra mas antimetwpizei kai twn oswn  se praktiko epipedo- prospaqei na kanei gia thn kalyterh antimetwpish toy zhthmatos. Epimenoyme oti xreiazetai syntonismos se eyrytero eyrwpaiko epipedo gia thn antimetwpish aytoy meizonos qematos.

Gia na sas dwsw mia diastash toy qematos aytoy, arkei na sas pw oti o ariqmos twn laqrometanastwn poy eiserxontai kaqe xrono h poy apopeirwntai na eiselqoyn sth xwra  kai to ``apopeirwntai'' phgainei sto oti ginetai epanaprowqhsh pollwn apo aytoys stis patrides toys- yperbainei tis 50.000. Einai o megalyteros ariqmos se paneyrwpaiko epipedo.

Opws anaferetai kai sthn epistolh, mono ton perasmeno Septembrio entopisthkan panelladika 13.151 laqrometanastes. Fantasteite oti h Germania, gia paradeigma, antimetwpizei kaqe xrono mikrotero ariqmo laqrometanastwn kai emeis ton eixame mono se ena mhna.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ARMENHS: Pantws, thn idia wra, k. Ekproswpe, symfwna me ekqesh mh kybernhtikhs organwshs kai omadas Ellhnwn dikhgorwn, h Ellada parabiazei ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata se o,ti afora th symperifora ths apenanti stoys metanastes. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei hdh apanthsei o Ypoyrgos Naytilias kai Aigaioy k. Boylgarakhs se synenteyjh poy edwse prin apo ligh wra. Qa meinw se ayth.

ROYMELIWTHS: Xqes, o Ypoyrgos Paideias k. Stylianidhs, me aformh tis 250 katalhceis se oloklhrh thn Ellada, kalese tis politikes dynameis na metaferoyn se allo pedio thn politikh antiparaqesh, xwris na kaqistoyn omhroys ta paidia. Emmesws plhn safws, dhladh, afhse na ennohqei oti orismenes apo tis katalhceis einai ypokinoymenes. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs; Einai ypokinoymenes h oxi oi katalhceis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Ypoyrgos Paideias exei dwsei safh diastash sto qema. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

SPYRAKH: O Proedros toy LAOS k. Karatzaferhs, k. Ypoyrge, ekane mia dhlwsh xqes ston radiofwniko staqmo ALPHA, symfwna me thn opoia dinei th sthrijh toy sthn kybernhsh, toylaxiston pros to paron, opws eipe. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti sxolio na kanw; H kybernhsh exei parei chfo empistosynhs, exontas aytodynamia sth Boylh. Tipote perissotero.

SARANTAKOS: Qelw na epanelqw sto qema poy eteqh xqes edw gia ton k. Tatoylh, o opoios jeperase to orio mias aplhs politikhs diafwnias, kata th gnwmh moy, kai eipe oti yparxoyn kapoies ypoqeseis oi opoies exoyn aposiwpoihqei. Ayto den einai ena qema poy afora thn kybernhsh kai ena qema hqikhs tajews;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei aposiwpoihqei kamia ypoqesh. Epikoinwnhsa kai me toys dyo ypoyrgoys, ton Ypoyrgo Politismoy kai ton prwhn Ypoyrgo Politismoy kai nyn Ypoyrgo Aigaioy. O k. Boylgarakhs moy dhlwse oti qa kanei mia ektenh anakoinwsh. Isws, hdh, exei doqei sth dhmosiothta h anakoinwsh toy kai gia ta dyo qemata.

SARANTAKOS: Gnwrizete an o k. Tatoylhs shmera, metebh sth Rhgillhs gia na dwsei ejhghseis sto komma gia ta osa eipe xqes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw, alla den eimai kai o armodios gia na apanthsw.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh den to shmeiwsa, eipate oti epikoinwnhsate kai me ton k. Tatoylh kai me ton k. Boylgarakh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa me ton k. Liaph kai ton k. Boylgarakh.

ROYMELIWTHS: Prin apo ligo, plhroforhqhkame oti o k. Samaras diaforopoihqhke sta qemata oikonomias. Esteile ena mhnyma ston k. Alogoskoyfh na mhn ayjhqei to FPA giati kai h kybernhsh kai h ellhnikh oikonomia den to exoyn anagkh. Ena sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio. Den to gnwrizw kan ayto poy moy lete.

ARMENHS: Qewreite oti yparxei kindynos na akoloyqhsoyn kai alles xwres th Megalh Bretania kai na anabaqmisoyn to ceydokratos sthn Kypro;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo ellhnikhs pleyras, yparxei anakoinwsh, h opoia egine prin apo mia ebdomada. Nomizw oti yparxei kai dieykrinish apo thn pleyra twn Bretanwn. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero s` ayto. H dieqnhs nomimothta exei katagrafei se apofaseis toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, oxi mia alla polles fores, opws gnwrizete.

XIDIROGLOY: Epi toytoy. Giati yparxei kai ena qema gia mia aktoploikh syndesh toy ceydokratoys me th Syria.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka, prin apo liges hmeres, gi` ayto.

XIDIROGLOY: Allo qelw na rwthsw. Ginetai, as poyme, mia eyryterh prospaqeia, wste na pesoyn sto keno oi prospaqeies anabaqmishs toy ceydokratoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalaba poio einai to erwthma sas.

XIDIROGLOY: An ginetai mia eyryterh prospaqeia sto na pesoyn sto keno oi prospaqeies ths Agkyras na anabaqmisei to ceydokratos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: De stamathse pote h prospaqeia apo ellhnikhs kai ellhnokypriakhs pleyras prokeimenoy na doqei mia dikaih lysh sto qema.

SARANTAKOS: Sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, egine mhpws kamia anafora gia ton eklogiko nomo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Opws sas eixa pei kai apo xqes, den egine kamia syzhthsh.

SPYRAKH: Dedomenoy oti thn 1h Noembrioy jekinaei o neos gyros toy dialogoy gia th dieyqethsh ths diaforas me ta Skopia, ypo thn aigida toy OHE, qa hqela na rwthsw an h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei apotimhsei th dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Milososki o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn se sxesh me strathgikh twn htthmenwn sthn periptwsh poy h Ellada breqei sth qesh na balei beto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti ennoeite, legontas ``an exei apotimhsei''. Oles oi dhmosies dhlwseis poy ginontai apo epishma proswpa synektimwntai.

SPYRAKH: Me sygxwreite poy parembainw. An exete kapoio sxolio se sxesh me thn oysia. Dhladh, elexqh oti einai strathgikh twn htthmenwn h epilogh toy beto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

GKOYTZANHS: Mexri stigmhs, h k. Mpakogiannh exei enhmerwsei toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias poy metexoyn stis epitropes kai se dieqneis organismoys gia tis ellhnikes qeseis gia to qema twn Skopiwn. Mhpws skopeyei h kybernhsh na kanei enhmerwsh kai stoys boyleytes twn allwn kommatwn prin jekinhsei ayth h diadikasia twn diapragmateysewn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws jerete, h k. Mpakogiannh, kata kairoys, exei enhmerwsei kai ta alla kommata. Kai fysika se diadikasies, opws ayth, enhmerwnontai ta alla kommata. Den exw na sas pw kati sygkekrimeno, ayth thn wra, gia to pote kai pws qa ginei. Einai bebaio oti ean kapoios arxhgos epiqymei, qa enhmerwqei apo thn k. Mpakogiannh. Antistoixws kai h k. Mpakogiannh, epishs, opws eipa, kai sto parelqon exei enhmerwsei kommata, eite mesw toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy, eite mesw ths Boylhs, sthn armodia Epitroph.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, anhsyxei thn kybernhsh h jefrenh poreia ths timhs toy petrelaioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizontas oti h poreia toy petrelaioy ephreazei th zwh mas -kai den thn ephreazei mono se o,ti afora to petrelaio kinhshs kai qermanshs, alla kai se mia seira proiontwn kai agaqwn poy einai aparaithta sthn kaqhmerinothta mas- yparxei opwsdhpote mia anhsyxia se oloys mas. Oxi mono se emas sthn Ellada, pisteyw kai dieqnws. Dioti to petrelaio kai h jefrenh poreia toy symparasyroyn tis times proiontwn, aparaithtwn gia thn kaqhmerinh diabiwsh twn politwn.

GKOYTZANHS: To kyma anodoy twn timwn, dhladh, poy parathreitai tis teleytaies hmeres kai poy anamenetai kai stis epomenes hmeres, opws exoyme proanaggeilei, h kybernhsh to apodidei sthn ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ejartatai. Gia paradeigma to oti exoyme mia poly megalh anodo sta sithra, ayto apodidetai se dyo akoma logoys, peran toy petrelaioy: O enas einai oti exoyn anoijei poly oi agores ths Asias kai katanalwnoyn sithra poy sto parelqon den katanalwnan, opws gnwrizoyme oloi mas, exontas meinei tote kyriws -an oxi apokleistika- sthn katanalwsh toy ryzioy. O deyteros logos einai oti ena pososto, arketa ychlo pia, twn sithrwn xrhsimopoieitai sthn biomhxania dhmioyrgias biokaysimwn. Gia paradeigma, oi H.P.A ena 20% ths paragwghs toys se kalampoki to xrhsimopoioyn gia ta biokaysima. Ayto, amesws- amesws, ephreazei kai tis times twn antistoixwn proiontwn. Aytes einai oi ejhghseis. Blepoyme oloi oti h pagkosmiopoihmenh oikonomia poly grhgora, apo thn mia akrh toy planhth sthn allh, dhmioyrgei allepallhla kymata kai to kaqe ena apo ayta ephreazei se shmeia, ta opoia endexomenws sto parelqon den fantazomaste.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara, gia to kyma ayto ths akribeias poy blepoyme, h kybernhsh den mporei na kanei kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekeino to opoio einai bebaio oti mporei na kanei h kybernhsh kai kanei, einai h dhmioyrgia elegktikwn mhxanismwn h h piesh dia twn elegktikwn mhxanismwn, wste na meiwsoyme -ews ejaleicews an ayto einai pote dynaton- tis apopeires kerdoskopias sthn agora.

GKOYTZANHS: Se allo qema. Gia to Skopiano, to qema twn Skopiwn. Oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias kai stelexh toy kommatos exoyn arxisei kai topoqetoyntai. Malista pairnoyn kai kapoies majimalistikes qeseis. Prwhn Yfypoyrgos eipe oti den mporei na yparxei lejh ``Makedonia''. Stelexos apo th Boreia Ellada ekane kritikh oti den einai swsth h diapragmateytikh taktikh ths xwras. Anhsyxoyn ayta thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Elega oti h kybernhsh, me sebasmo sthn Istoria, me realismo, me oles tis dynameis paroyses, prospaqei na dwsei ayth th maxh gia ena zhthma to opoio den einai shmerino. Einai zhthma to opoio exei gennhqei edw kai para polla xronia, gia to opoio oloi gnwrizoyme - kai eseis apo th pleyra twn dhmosiografwn syzhtwntas polles fores me jenoys synadelfoys sas kai oi politikoi, eite einai toy shmerinoy kybernwntos kommatos eite toy prohgoymenoy kybernwntos kommatos - tis dyskolies poy exei, prokeimenoy na kerdhqei akoma kai se epipedo entypwsewn, dieqnws. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, h maxh einai edw. H maxh jekinaei gia mia akomh fora kai qa dwsoyme ton kalytero eayto mas gia na petyxoyme mia kalh lysh.

BLABIANOS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh thn periptwsh dhmochfismatos panw sto zhthma toy onomatos twn Skopiwn h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

Sas eyxaristw.

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