Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-10-11

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 11 Oktwbrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 100274033

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 11 Oktwbrioy 2007

Xairete.

" O Ypoyrgos Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn k. Giwrgos Soyflias ypegrace xqes thn Koinh Ypoyrgikh Apofash, me thn opoia kaqorizontai oi oroi kai oi proypoqeseis ths dwrean kratikhs arwghs gia thn anakataskeyh kai episkeyh twn ktiriwn poy ypesthsan zhmies apo tis pyrkagies toy fetinoy kalokairioy. Opws gnwrizete, ayth einai mia apofash poy eixe parei, xwris xronotribh, h kybernhsh kai apoblepei sthn taxeia, oysiastikh kai apotelesmatikh apokatastash ths perioysias olwn ekeinwn poy zoyn stis perioxes poy eplhghsan. Me thn apofash ayth kaqorizontai leptomereiaka  fantazomai oti qa thn exete dei-- oi oroi kai oi proypoqeseis gia th dwrean, opws sas eipa, anakataskeyh h episkeyh twn ktiriwn poy ypesthsan zhmies apo tis pyrkagies. To programma ayto einai ena megalo programma, ena terastio programma. Perilambanei thn plhrh anakataskeyh peripoy 2.100 ktiriwn, ek twn opoiwn perissotera apo 1.000 einai katoikies kai thn episkeyh allwn 1.500, ek twn opoiwn perissotera apo 800 einai epishs katoikies. Perilambanontai de se ayto ton ariqmo kai ola ta ktiria kai oles oi katoikies, anejarthta an einai prwtes h ejoxikes, deytereyoyses katoikies. Ejairoyntai mono, symfwna me thn plhroforhsh thn opoia exw, oikhmata ta opoia htan egkataleleimmena. To synoliko kostos toy programmatos anerxetai se peripoy 150 ekatommyria eyrw kai qa xrhmatodothqei apo to Eidiko Tameio Antimetwpishs Ektaktwn Anagkwn.

H kataskeyh twn ktiriwn den qa ginei kentrika, apo to YPEXWDE, alla apo toys idioys toys idiokthtes. Ayto ejasfalizei mia megalyterh eyelijia kai gi` ayto qa dinetai dwrean kratikh arwgh se xrhmata. H apofash problepei thn paroxh ths dwrean kratikhs arwghs se oles anejaireta tis pyroplhktes perioxes. Synolika 18 nomoys. Dhladh toys nomoys Hleias, Messhnias, Lakwnias, Arkadias, Korinqias, Eyboias, Attikhs, Aitwloakarnanias, Magnhsias, Axaias, Argolidas, Larisas, Artas, Qesprwtias, Zakynqoy, Fqiwtidas, Kefallhnias kai Boiwtias. Epishs, oi dikaioyxoi, opws sas eipa, ths dwrean ayths kratikhs arwghs einai oloi oi idiokthtes gia mh egkataleleimmena ktiria poy briskontai se pyroplhkth perioxh.

To poso ths kratikhs arwghs gia kaqe eidos ktirioy einai tetoio poy diasfalizei pragmatika th dwrean anakataskeyh h episkeyh toy. Endeiktika sas lew oti gia tis katoikies to poso ths dwrean kratikhs arwghs exei oristei se 750 eyrw ana tetragwniko metro kai malista gia embadon iso me ayto ths katoikias poy katastrafhke kai mexri ta 120 tetragwnika metra. To poso ayto ayjanetai se 950 eyrw ana tetragwniko metro gia diathrhtees katoikies kai gia oses briskontai entos paradosiakwn oikismwn, giati ekei bebaiws to kostos anakataskeyhs, logw twn eidikwn ergasiwn oi opoies apaitoyntai, einai ayjhmeno.

Epishs --kai ayto einai epishs idiaitera shmantiko-- problepontai sthn apofash eynoikes ryqmiseis me stoxo thn pragmatikh beltiwsh twn synqhkwn katoikias stis pyroplhktes perioxes. Etsi, gia dimeleis oikogeneies kai gia katastrafeisa katoikia mikroterh twn 65 tetragwnikwn metrwn, h dwrean kratikh arwgh ypologizetai gia embadon 65 tetragwnikwn metrwn. Ti shmainei ayto; Ean h oikogeneia ayth, h dimelhs, ena androgyno, emene se ena diamerisma h se ena mikro oikisko, giati ayta bebaia htan synhqws mikres katoikies se agrotikes h hmiagrotikes perioxes, ektashs 45 h 50 tetragwnikwn metrwn, toys didetai h eykairia na ktisoyn ena spiti me perissotera tetragwnika metra, 65 metra, etsi wste na zhsoyn kalytera, na exoyn perissotero xwro. Gia tis trimeleis oikogeneies kai gia katastrafeisa katoikia mikroterh twn 80 tetragwnikwn metrwn, h dwrean kratikh arwgh ypologizetai gia embadon 80 tetragwnikwn metrwn kai gia tis tetrameleis oikogeneies antistoixa h dwrean kratikh arwgh ypologizetai gia embadon 95 tetragwnikwn metrwn.

Idiaiterh shmasia qa doqei kata th diadikasia ths anoikodomhshs olwn twn oikhmatwn poy katastrafhkan h ypesthsan sobares zhmies sthn arxitektonikh fysiognwmia twn oikismwn poy exoyn plhgei kai sto sebasmo pros to periballon. Sas lew pali orismena endeiktika stoixeia: Oles oi katoikies qa exoyn to poly dyo orofoys kai qa diaqetoyn ypoxrewtika keramoskeph. Qa yparxei aysthrh efarmogh toy kanonismoy qermomonwshs, dhladh dipla tzamia, diploi dromikoi toixoi me qermomonwsh kai alla synafh stoixeia. Den epitrepetai h kataskeyh pylwths. Ta koyfwmata prepei na einai apo jylo h apo allo yliko wste na moiazoyn me jylo. Oi hliakoi syllektes prepei na topoqetoyntai ston periballonta xwro kai epishs prepei na diathreitai h morfologia ths perioxhs, toso oson afora ton ogko twn ktiriwn, ta ycikorma anoigmata, symfwna me ta paradosiaka protypa. Se oloys toys paradosiakoys oikismoys, telos, qa efarmozontai oi oroi twn antistoixwn Proedrikwn Diatagmatwn.

Epishs --kai ayth einai allh mia elafrynsh gia osoys qa paroyn ayth th bohqeia-- oi meletes gia thn episkeyh kai thn anakataskeyh twn blabentwn ktiriwn, kaqws kai h ekdosh twn oikodomikwn adeiwn, apallassontai apo kaqe foro, telos xartoshmoy, dikaiwma krathsews h eisforas en genei toy Dhmosioy h Organismoy Topikhs Aytodioikhshs h opoioydhpote tritoy. Enw h amoibh toy mhxanikoy gia meleth kai epiblech meiwnetai sto 50% ths amoibhs poy kaqorizetai me tis isxyoyses diatajeis peri amoibwn mhxanikwn. Gia th diasfalish ths diafaneias ths diadikasias, h kratikh arwgh qa xorhgeitai se treis doseis, analoga me thn poreia twn ergasiwn anakataskeyhs. Qa pairnoyn dhladh sthn arxh, ean qymamai akribws to pososto, to 35% kai me thn proodo, qa erqei meta to allo trito kai ligo prin apo th symplhrwsh, qa pairnoyn kai to allo trito, to allo 30%, 35%, wste na oloklhrwsoyn tis ergasies. Mono gia ergasies poy qa einai poly mikres, nomizw katw apo 3.000 eyrw, to poso qa kataballetai efapaj.

" Paw se ena allo qema: Qelw na epishmanw th megalh shmasia poy exei h egkyklios poy ypegrace, xqes, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos sxetika me th meiwsh twn ypografwn stis dioikhtikes prajeis kai ta dioikhtika eggrafa. Symfwna me thn apofash ayth kai sta plaisia ths metarryqmishs ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai ths meiwshs ths grafeiokratias, wste na ejyphretoyntai eyelikta kai grhgorotera oloi oi Ellhnes polites, elhfqhke h apofash na meiwqoyn oi ypografes stis kanonistikes prajeis kai ta dioikhtika eggrafa, etsi wste na mhn yperbainoyn tis treis.

Den einai spanio, opws gnwrizete, to fainomeno kanonistikes prajeis ths Dioikhshs kai eggrafa, na feroyn eji, polles fores deka, se orismenes periptwseis kai perissoteres akomh ypografes, xwris ayto na dikaiologeitai panta apo th spoydaiothta twn ryqmizomenwn qematwn. To fainomeno ayto, dhladh ths symprajhs para pollwn dhmosiwn leitoyrgwn kai dioikhtikwn organwn, poy sthn oysia mporei na ginei me poly ligoteres ypografes, prokalei polles dysleitoyrgies kai apotelei empodio sthn prospaqeia poy kataballoyme oloi mas, me prwth thn kybernhsh, gia ton eksygxronismo ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai thn taxyterh diekperaiwsh twn ypoqesewn twn politwn kai twn epixeirhsewn. Eidikotera me ton periorismo twn ypografwn kai kata synepeia kai twn organwn poy symprattoyn se mia energeia, epitygxanetai: Prwton, h epispeysh toy dioikhtikoy ergoy.

Deyteron, h ayjhsh ths apotelesmatikothtas kai ths apodotikothtas ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs, h opoia yparxei gia na ejyphretei ton polith.

Triton, h orqologikopoihsh kai aploysteysh twn diadikasiwn lhchs twn apofasewn. Syntemnetai, dhladh, sobara o xronos poy xreiazetai wste mia apofash, apo th stigmh poy lambanetai mexri th stigmh poy efarmozetai, na ftanei grhgora ston polith.

Tetarton, h dieykolynsh twn ierarxika proistamenwn organwn sthn askhsh toy epitelikoy xarakthra armodiothtwn toys me th meiwsh twn leitoyrgikwn toys armodiothtwn. Etsi, oi ypallhloi exoyn perissotero xrono gia na asxolhqoyn me oysiastika pragmata sth qesh sthn opoia exoyn topoqethqei.

Kai pempton, h enisxysh ths atomikhs eyqynhs twn stelexwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eimai sigoyrh oti to exete ypoch sas, aplws to epanalambanw gia logoys katanohshs ths erwthshs sto briefing. Yparxei shmera ena prwtoselido arqro sthn efhmerida ``TO BHMA'', poy anaferei oti melh toy Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy toy OLP arnoyntai na paraithqoyn kai yparxei sto trapezi kai to dedomeno oti den exei oloklhrwqei enas diagwnismos promhqeias mhxanhmatwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs apenanti se ayto to gegonos.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, h leitoyrgia twn etaireiwn --kai twn etaireiwn stis opoies oysiastikos, kyrios metoxos einai to ellhniko Dhmosio-- exei synexeia. Prokeitai gia ena diadikastiko qema toy opoioy den gnwrizw oles tis parametroys. Parakalw, gia perissoteres leptomereies, na apeyqynqeite sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milwntas xqes ston ALPHA o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos, paradexqhke tis plhrofories poy yphrxan oti h kybernhsh metaqetei ola ta sobara qemata, tis ``kaytes patates'' qa legame, meta tis 11 Noembrioy. Giati to kanei ayto h kybernhsh; Apo symparastash sta osa ginontai sto PASOK h exei kapoioys alloys idiaiteroys logoys;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia metaqesh kanenos qematos. Oi proteraiothtes ths kybernhshs einai gnwstes se oloys apo thn anagnwsh twn programmatikwn dhlwsewn, prin apo liges molis hmeres sth Boylh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai tis topoqethseis poy ekanan ola ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, kata th diarkeia ayths ths syzhthshs sth Boylh. Yparxoyn sygkekrimena nomosxedia, sygkekrimenes proqeseis kai programmatikes desmeyseis ths kybernhshs, oi opoies mia-mia qa paroyn to dromo toys pros th Boylh. Den blepw kamia syndesh me ayto to qema poy molis anaferate.

SPYRAKH: Dedomenoy oti, as poyme, to qema ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs, toylaxiston gia na proxwrhsei opws problepei o nomoqeths, apaitei eyryterh synainesh, peran twn 152 edrwn poy diaqetei h Nea Dhmokratia sth Boylh, den qa thn programmatisete ayth meta thn oristikopoihsh toy topioy sto PASOK, meta thn eklogh toy neoy Proedroy;

ANTWNAROS: H erwthsh h opoia moy eteqh apo th synadelfo sas, thn k. Kalogeropoyloy, ekane logo gia xronikh metaqesh, den qymamai akribws ta logia poy xrhsimopoihse...

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den eipa egw gia anabolh h kaqysterhsh. Metaqetete ta qemata, den to eipa egw, o Ypoyrgos to eipe.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino, loipon, poy exoyme pei gia to sygkekrimeno qema ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs einai safes: H syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh qa proxwrhsei, opws allwste orizei kai to Syntagma, me apolyth safhneia --einai mia desmeytikh ryqmish poy yparxei sto Syntagma-- sthn prwth synodo ths shmerinhs Boylhs. Ayto exoyme pei. Ayto ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

XIDIROGLOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean yparxei kapoio xronodiagramma gia thn efarmogh ths apofashs gia th meiwsh twn ypografwn.

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas parakaloysa na diabasete thn analytikh egkyklio toy k. Paylopoyloy kai qa breite oles tis leptomereies sxetika me to qema.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: H kybernhsh sas qa kanei kapoia systash ston kybernhtiko boyleyth k. Karaogloy gia ta osa eipe gia ton k. Alogoskoyfh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipe kai xqes o k. Roysopoylos oti den sxoliazoyme dhlwseis boyleytwn. O k. Karaogloy ekane kai shmera, an eimai kala plhroforhmenos, mia grapth dhlwsh. Qa sas parakaloysa na th diabasete.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ara, na ypoqesoyme oti h systash egine apo thn kybernhsh kai ekane o k. Karaogloy ayth th dhlwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Na mhn ypoqesete tipota tetoio.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete ti shmainei h qesh toy k. Alogoskoyfh gia dialogo sto Asfalistiko xwris proypoqeseis; Dhladh qa ginei enas dialogos o opoios qa agnohsei oti to kratos den antapokrinetai stis ypoxrewseis toy kai sta xreh poy exei sta asfalistika Tameia kai qa pairnei ypoch toy mono ta dikaiwmata poy prepei na anatrapoyn twn ergazomenwn;

ANTWNAROS: Kaneis den milhse gia anatroph dikaiwmatwn. Gia na sas apanthsw, prwta ap` ola, se ayto to opoio qetete.

KAKALHS: Exoyn milhsei oi diorismenoi apo esas. O k. Analyths, exei milhsei o k. Gkargkanas...

ANTWNAROS: An qelete na sas dwsw apanthsh, eyxaristws na to prajw. An protimate na ekfwnhsete logydrio, den qa sas afairoysa ayth thn eykairia.

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai) anakribeies.

ANTWNAROS: Na sas ypenqymisw, loipon, oti oi qeseis ths kybernhshs --to lew gia mia akomh fora-- gia to sygkekrimeno qema einai gnwstes. Exoyn gnwstopoihqei apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo, kai malista sas to eipa kai prin apo liges meres, sthn teleytaia synodo ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias, me tropo poy den afhnei kamia amfisbhthsh toso gia tis arxes, oso kai gia toys ajones gyrw apo toys opoioys kineitai h kybernhsh. Oloi mazi prepei na katsoyme twra na broyme lyseis sta qemata ta opoia yparxoyn sto asfalistiko systhma, wste na mporesoyme oloi mazi pali na anamorfwsoyme to asfalistiko systhma, me tropo tetoio wste na einai dikaio, oysiastiko kai wfelimo se baqos xronoy gia oloys toys Ellhnes ergazomenoys. Etsi wste oloi oi Ellhnes --to lew gia mia akomh fora-- poy ftanoyn sto telos toy ergasiakoy toys bioy kai bgainoyn sth syntajh, na exoyn mia syntajh, na exoyn apolabes poy qa einai oso to dynaton kalyteres.

KAKALHS: Pws ennoei to dialogo xwris proypoqeseis h kybernhsh; Ayto ennow. Mporeite na apanthsete;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei milhsei polles fores gia to dialogo. O dialogos qa ginei mesa se sygkekrimena plaisia. Elpizw oti oloi osoi exoyn klhqei qa antapokriqoyn kai qa paroyn, me epoikodomhtiko tropo, meros se ayto to dialogo.

KAKALHS: Epishs, ti ennooyse o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, apeyqynomenos sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, legontas stoys Ypoyrgoys na mhn dhmioyrghqoyn synqhkes Giannitsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw ti plhrofories exete. Egw den exw ypoch moy kamia tetoia plhroforia.

KAKALHS: Apo filokybernhtikh efhmerida.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den exw ypoch moy kamia tetoia dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KAKALHS: Mhpws exete ypoch sas thn allh dhlwsh sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, na mhn anakoinwnontai metra me xronodiagramma an den exoyn epibebaiwqei ola ayta oti qa isxysoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Gnwrizw osa eipe o k. Roysopoylos xqes, enhmerwnontas sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Synepws, h kybernhsh aporriptei tis qeseis toy k. Gkargkana;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, to exw pei kai ayto epaneilhmmenws, kata pagia taktikh den sxoliazei pote tis qeseis ths Trapezas ths Ellados. H kybernhsh, opws se ola ta megala qemata poy endiaferoyn thn koinwnia kai ton topo, etsi kai sto Asfalistiko, exei dikes ths qeseis poy exoyn diatypwqei me apolyth safhneia kai einai se oloys kala gnwstes. Ypenqymizw, gia mia akoma fora, oti oi qeseis aytes, oi ajones aytoi --an qelete-- exoyn diatypwqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo poly prosfata. Prin apo tis ekloges.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara, yparxoyn proypoqeseis sto dialogo. Aytes oi opoies exei balei, opws lete, o Prwqypoyrgos. Den isxyei ayto poy leei o k. Alogoskoyfhs, gia dialogo xwris proypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Aytoi einai oi ajones basei twn opoiwn kineitai h kybernhsh. Elpizw na toys gnwrizete.

GKOYTZANHS: Moy epitrepete mia teleytaia erwthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw.

GKOYTZANHS: Nomizete oti mporei na doqei lysh se baqos xronoy, opws legate kai perigrafate prohgoymenws gia to Asfalistiko, xwris na qigoyn ta oria syntajiodothshs, xwris na ayjhqoyn oi eisfores;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta ta exoyme pei para polles fores kai ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn sto akeraio. Tipota apo ola osa anaferate den ta aggizoyme.

KAKALHS: Stis qeseis ths kybernhshs gia to asfalistiko den exw akoysei tipota gia toys syntajioyxoys toy IKA poy pairnoyn katw apo 600 eyrw. Epta stoys deka syntajioyxoys, apo oti eidate kai sta xqesina stoixeia pairnoyn katw apo 600 eyrw. Dhladh, prokeitai gia 628.124 anqrwpoys.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h prospaqeia, h opoia kataballetai kai prepei na katablhqei apo oloys mas ton epomeno kairo einai na ftasoyme se ena shmeio wste oi Ellhnes syntajioyxoi na exoyn tetoies apolabes poy qa zoyn mia kalh zwh. Gi ayto prepei na syzhthsoyme oloi mazi kai na broyme lyseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, symfwna me to reportaz, feretai na edwse entolh ston Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylo na pagwsei to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy. Kati poy o k. Paylopoylos me xqesines dhlwseis toy ston thleoptiko staqmo ALPHA to epibebaiwse. Mporeite na mas peite gia pio logo metatiqetai xronika to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy apo th stigmh poy apotelei diakhryjh toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis programmatikes dhlwseis;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kanena tetoio pagwma. Yparxei ayto poy exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws se oles tis erwthseis poy mas exoyn ginei ston k. Roysopoylo kai se mena se ayton edw to xwro: Oti to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy einai kati poy qa syzhthqei sthn trexoysa synodo ergasiwn ths Boylhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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