Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-06-08

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 8 Ioynioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 77676422

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Ioynioy 2007

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Apo th stigmh poy h JP MORGAN den epistrefei toys tokoys, mhpws qa dwsei h kybernhsh toys tokoys sta Tameia;

ANTWNAROS: Prin apo ligo, egine mia koinh dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgoy Alogoskoyfh kai toy Ypoyrgoy Apasxolhshs k. Basilh Maggina. Epeidh egine prin apo liga lepta, endexomenws na mhn thn exete ypoch sas. Qa moy epitrecete, loipon, na sas th diabasw: ``Opws einai gnwsto, gia thn epanagora toy omologoy twn 280 ekat. eyrw emfanizetai diafora metajy twn Tameiwn kai toy Dieqnoys Xrhmatopistwtikoy Organismoy, ws pros toys tokoys poy analogoyn sthn periodo diakrathshs toy omologoy apo ta Tameia. Me dedomenh thn kybernhtikh qesh oti den prokeitai na xaqei oyte ena eyrw apo ta apoqematika twn Tameiwn, to ellhniko Dhmosio qa kalycei th diafora ayth se periptwsh symfwnias twn dyo pleyrwn, h opoia den qa proeblepe, telika, thn katabolh aytwn twn tokwn. Gia th ryqmish ayth qa apaithqei sxetikh nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, h opoia qa problepei thn plhrwmh twn tokwn basei toy epitokioy kataqesewn sto Koino Kefalaio ths Trapezas ths Elladas''.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, an den kanw laqos, o k. Alogoskoyfhs omws eixe pei sth Boylh, apantwntas se erwthsh ths k. Papandreoy, oti an to kratos dwsei xrhmata pisw sta Tameia, qa ta phgainoyn mesa gia apistia.

ANTWNAROS: Opws antilambaneste, prokeitai gia mia mikrh diafora. Opws exoyme pei, to kefalaio, to plhres kefalaio epistrefei. Ayto poy eixame pei apo thn arxh oti den prokeitai na xaqei oyte ena eyrw gia to sygkekrimeno omologo, ginetai prajh. Kai etsi den yparxei apolytws kanena qema.

KALARYTHS: Sthn oysia, omws, den einai san na plhrwnei to Dhmosio, oi forologoymenoi, dyo fores ta idia xrhmata;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Den yparxei tipote tetoio. Allwste, mh jexnate, oti th diapragmateysh --kai to epanalambanw ayto-- gia to sygkekrimeno qema, thn kanoyn ta Tameia. Ta Tameia ta opoia exoyn agorasei aytonoma, anejarthta, me apofash poy phran mona toys, to sygkekrimeno omologo apo to xrhmatopistwtiko organismo. H kybernhsh den parembainei sth diapragmateysh ayth.

GARGALAKOS: Me ayto ton tropo, oi forologoymenoi den qa plhrwsoyn tis mizes twn diameswn; Giati etsi oysiastika qa ginei. Qa plhrwqoyn oi mizes mesa apo ton kratiko proypologismo.

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti apodidete idiaiterh shmasia se mia ptyxh, h opoia den einai toso shmantikh. Shmasia exei oti den xaqhkan xrhmata, opws fanhke allwste kai sto qema toy omologoy twn dhmosiografwn, to opoio gyrise me ena shmantiko kerdos 3,1 ekat. eyrw sto Tameio twn dhmosiografwn. Dhladh, anti gia 130 ekat. eyrw poy eixan katabalei, eiserreysan 133,1 ekat. eyrw telika sto Tameio toys. Ayto apodeiknyei oti aytoi poy isxyristhkan oti yphrxan megales apwleies dekadwn ekatommyriwn se ayta ta omologa, xrhsimopoihsan ta epixeirhmata poy den eixan kamia bash.

GARGALAKOS: Ma, afoy speydei to Dhmosio, kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na kalycei th diafora...

ANTWNAROS: Poia diafora;

GARGALAKOS: Den yphrxe bash (den akoygetai)...

ANTWNAROS: Den qa mpw se perissoteres leptomereies. Qa sas pw kati para poly aplo. Elegan oti dekades ekatommyria eixan xaqei me ayta ta omologa. Ta blepete poyqena na exoyn xaqei; Exw pei kai alles fores: ``Ta cemata exoyn konta podaria''.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: To qema einai an xaqhkan dekades ekatommyria h an xaqhkan kapoia xrhmata twn Tameiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw se oloys aytoys poy ekanan epi 90 toses meres ayth thn paraplhroforhsh.

KOYTRAS: Me to na kataballei h kybernhsh toys tokoys, den einai parembash sth diapragmateysh;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Parakalw na diabasete akribws th dhlwsh, opws sas egine. Qa diapistwsete oti den yparxei kamia apolytws parembash. H diapragmateysh ginetai apeyqeias, xwris kamia apolytws symmetoxh toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy h bebaiws ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

KOTTARIDHS: Otan eseis diasfalizete me ayto ton tropo sta Tameia oti qa laboyn toys tokoys, tote oysiastika lete sta Tameia, symfwnhste kai qa baloyme emeis ta ejtra lefta. Ara, einai oysiastika parembash ayto to pragma. Dhladh, deixnete sta Tameia na symfwnhsoyn me thn JP Morgan xwris na paroyn toys tokoys.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth dhlwsh. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

MELIGKWNHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Den sxoliazete th dikastikh pleyra ths ejelijhs kai den zhtw na sxoliasete ayth. Wstoso, mhpws jerete ean h kybernhsh htan enhmerh gia thn prwtoboylia toy k. Koliokwsta na zhthsei th sygklish ths Olomeleias Efetwn gia na anabaqmistei dikastika to qema;

ANTWNAROS: Qa epanalabw gia mia akomh fora to aytonohto: Opws jerete, yparxoyn treis diaforetikes ejoysies sth Dhmokratia mas, oi opoies leitoyrgoyn anejarthta h mia apo thn allh.

MELIGKWNHS: Einai gnwsto ayto. Egw rwtw, mhpws eixate plhroforhqei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa oti leitoyrgoyn anejarthta h mia apo thn allh, opws prepei na leitoyrgoyn sta plaisia toy dhmokratikoy Politeymatos.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Se allo qema. Qa egkainiasei kai alla erga o Prwqypoyrgos; Giati qymizei enos eidoys proeklogikh ekstrateia ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa se sxetikes erwthseis xqes. Profanws, qa anafereste sto qema ths Cytalleias. Ekana mia megalh anafora gia to ti eixe paraleifqei na ginei apo to 1995 mexri to 2004. Gia yposxeseis oi opoies eixan doqei aploxera apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis kai oi opoies oydepote thrhqhkan. Gia yperbaseis proypologismwn. Gia erga ta opoia oydepote oloklhrwqhkan. Gia talaipwria thn opoia yfistanto mexri xqes, proxqes oi topikoi plhqysmoi gi` ayto to ergo, to opoio qa eprepe na eixe oloklhrwqei prin apo para polla xronia. Einai fysiko, otan oloklhrwnetai ena tetoio ergo, otan arxizei na leitoyrgei, otan dhmioyrgei ekeines tis proypoqeseis, wste na apallagei to epibarymeno periballon kai eidika se ekeinh thn perioxh apo ayta ta fainomena. Einai fysiko, loipon --den briskw tipota to periergo-- na einai parwn o Prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei. Einai ena ergo, to opoio oloklhrwqhke se xrono rekor kata th qhteia ths shmerinhs kybernhshs.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Egw rwtw, ean qa exoyme kai alla tetoia erga, ta opoia den exei oloklhrwsei to PASOK kai ta oloklhrwnei h Nea Dhmokratia kai qa ta egkainiasei o Prwqypoyrgos.

ANTWNAROS: Ayta ginontai kata peristash. Gnwrizete, bebaiws, oti gia oles tis dhmosies emfaniseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy enhmerwneste, wste na eiste kai eseis parontes, efoson epiqymeite.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Epeidh lete oti enhmerwnomaste dyo-treis wres nwritera, giati symbainei ayto; Mhpws fobaste oti o Prwqypoyrgos mporei na dexqei erwthsh gia ta omologa;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos exei topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia kai gia to sygkekrimeno qema twn omologwn. H qesmikh qwrakish, metajy twn allwn, se ayto ton tomea exei anakoinwqei kai apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo. O Prwqypoyrgos exei anakoinwsei oti emeis qa kanoyme o,ti einai aparaithto, wste tetoia fainomena san kai ayta poy katagrafhkan, na mhn epanalhfqoyn sto mellon. Synepws, o Prwqypoyrgos topoqeteitai sta qemata sta opoia o idios krinei oti qelei na topoqethqei. Qa hqela na sas pw, epishs, oti o Typos, ta mesa enhmerwshs, enhmerwnontai egkairws gia tis dhmosies emfaniseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Ep` aytoy. Egkairws, den einai dyo wres prin. Eidika, 6.30 to prwi na enhmerwnomaste. Alla, peran aytoy, to oti h enhmerwsh ginetai liges wres prin thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, deixnei kati, ena fobo. Den einai, eipate, loipon, ean qa erwthqei o Prwqypoyrgos h ean qa dexqei erwthseis. Mhpws fobaste kinhtopoihseis twn katoikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeinoi oi opoioi wfeloyntai perissotero apo opoiondhpote allo, apo to sygkekrimeno ergo to opoio oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis  to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora-- pareleican na to oloklhrwsoyn, aytoi poy wfeloyntai perissotero apo alloys einai oi katoikoi ths perioxhs. Aytoi poy zoyn dipla kai aytoi oi opoioi ypesthsan tis synepeies ths kaqysterhshs.

SMYRNHS: Ligaki sto qema me thn apofash twn k. Alogoskoyfh kai Maggina. To politiko mhnyma poy ekpempei h kybernhsh, poio einai; Oti, dhladh, as ginei mia laqos kinhsh, as xaqoyn xrhmata, eimaste edw pera emeis gia na kalycoyme tis diafores;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Den qa paw parapera apo thn anakoinwsh. Sas th diabasa. Einai safes to ti leei h anakoinwsh. Kai einai epishs safes oti me tis ejelijeis sto qema twn omologwn apodeiknyontai ta ceydh oswn, edw kai treis mhnes, prospaqoyn na paraplhroforhsoyn toys Ellhnes polites.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe apo thn ekqesh toy Genikoy Epiqewrhth ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs prokyptei oti yparxei kai diafqora kai kakodioikhsh kai atimwrhsia se o,ti afora to Kratos kai enqymoymai oti dyo apo tis basikoteres ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan h epanidrysh toy Kratoys kai h mhdenikh anoxh sth diafqora. Aytes oi ejaggelies ek twn pragmatwn den fainetai na ylopoioyntai telika.

ANTWNAROS: Diabasate olh thn ekqesh;

GARGALAKOS: Th diabasa.

ANTWNAROS: Olh;

GARGALAKOS: To megalytero meros ths.

ANTWNAROS: Diabasate thn eisagwgikh topoqethsh toy Genikoy Epiqewrhth;

GARGALAKOS: Bebaiws th diabasa.

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete, loipon, na sas pw liga logia. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti h Dhmosia Dioikhsh, kai ayto to exei pei polles fores h shmerinh kybernhsh, kai malista se ola ta epipeda, exei anagkh apo polles beltiwseis. Exei anagkh apo polles kai oysiastikes parembaseis, oi opoies kai ginontai. Oi paqogeneies poy prohlqan kai epideinwqhkan me ragdaio ryqmo kata thn periodo diakybernhshs apo to PASOK, den paramerizontai bebaiws apo th mia mera sthn allh. Den isxyristhkame pote kati tetoio. Kai apotelesma aytwn twn paqogeneiwn einai akribws osa diapistwnei o Epiqewrhths ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs k. Rakintzhs sthn ethsia ekqesh toy. Diapistwnei omws kai kati akomh to opoio eipe jekaqara sthn eisagwgh ths topoqethshs toy. Kai einai kati to opoio, me lyph moy prepei na pw, den blepw na katagrafetai se megalh merida twn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Eipe, loipon, oti h shmerinh kybernhsh kai eidika o Ypoyrgos o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos exoyn enisxysei qesmika to rolo toy Genikoy Epiqewrhth, wste na mporei na antapokrinetai kalytera kai apotelesmatikotera sthn apostolh toy. Ayto akribws einai poy apodeiknyei oti h kybernhsh kai th qelhsh exei kai thn apofasistikothta na proxwrhsei se oysiastikh beltiwsh ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs pros ofelos ths koinwnias kai olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn. Akribws me th symbolh ayths ths qwrakishs, ths qesmikhs qwrakishs sthn opoia anaferqhke o k. Rakintzhs, ginetai shmera dynath h diapistwsh megalyteroy ariqmoy kroysmatwn, etsi wste na mporoyn na antimetwpizontai. Dioti, mexri th qwrakish ayths ths Arxhs, opws htan aparaithto, den katagrafotan tipota. Ayto exei pollh shmasia.

GARGALAKOS: Nai, alla h diafqora k. Ekproswpe stis efories, sta nosokomeia kai sthn poleodomia gia na pw merikes, einai kati me to opoio exoyme asxolhqei ws dhmosiografoi epaneilhmmena. Hrqe mia kybernhsh, exei katsei 3,5 xronia sthn ejoysia kai ejakoloyqei ayth h diafqora, stis efories, stis nomarxies, stis poleodomies, sta nosokomeia...

ANTWNAROS: Ma, h anakalych fainomenwn ejyphretei kai symballei akribws sthn antimetwpish toys. Dioti, diaforetika den pisteyw na pisteyei kaneis apo sas h kaneis apo toys Ellhnes polites oti yparxei kapoio magiko rabdaki to opoio qa kinhsei kaneis ena wraio prwi kai ola ayta qa ejafanistoyn ws dia mageias. Shmasia exoyn ta metra ta opoia lambanontai, wste na eperxontai ta epiqymhta apotelesmata.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Yparxoyn gkalop poy deixnoyn oti h Nea Dhmokratia sthn perioxh ths Qessalias, sthn perifereia ths Qessalias einai se eyqeia ptwsh. Problhmatizei ayto thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw sfygmometrhseis. Exoyme pei oti oi dhmoskophseis einai katagrafh mias dedomenhs stigmhs, tasewn mias dedomenhs stigmhs. Oi Ellhnes polites apofasizoyn sygkekrimenh hmera poios qeloyn na toys kybernhsei.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Enisxyetai oikonomika to Synedrio toy k. Papaqemelh to komma toy h to fylladio toy apo th Nea Dhmokratia, opws kataggellei o k. Karatzaferhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai egw ekproswpos ths Neas Dhmokratias. Den exw ypoch moy tetoies plhrofories. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias.

MELIGKWNHS: Akoysame, xqes ton k. Koymoytsako, sxetika me to qema ths onomasias twn Skopiwn, na leei oti h Aqhna krinei thn thrhsh ths endiameshs symfwnias apo ta Skopia, sto synolo ths kai oxi sta epimeroys arqra. Ayth einai h apanthsh ths kybernhshs ston eligmo twn Skopiwn, na dexontai na mpoyn me to proswrino toys onoma sto NATO;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Koymoytsakos, ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, aphnthse gyrw stis eikosi pente erwthseis xqes, sxetika me ayto to qema. Qa sas parapemcw, loipon, sto synolo twn apanthsewn poy edwse o k. Koymoytsakos kai oxi se mia memonwmenh apanthsh, h opoia einai endexomenws ektos twn symfrazomenwn. Apanthse se ola ta qemata o k. Koymoytsakos.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xarh mas kanoyn ta Skopia kai mas paraxwroyne to oti qa entaxqoyne me thn proswrinh toys ... ..

ANTWNAROS: Parapempw stis dhlwseis toy k. Koymoytsakoy.

LEONTITSH: Me aformh ayto to qema poy syzhteitai twra, qa yparjei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Yfypoyrgo Politikwn Ypoqesewn twn HPA ton k. Mperns

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai enhmeros. An exw kati, qa sas enhmerwsw.

SMYRNHS: Qa mporoysate na mas peite gia thn atzenta ths shmerinhs synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Den exei oloklhrwqei h synanthsh. Ej oswn gnwrizw, einai se ejelijh. Molis oloklhrwqei, eimai bebaios oti qa enhmerwqeite.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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