Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-03-09

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 9 Martioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 61257865

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 9 Martioy 2007

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa elega oti sysswmh h antipoliteysh katalogizei politikes eyqynes ston Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs kai prokyptei to erwthma, ean h kybernhsh blepei aytes tis eyqynes na yparxoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai, poy yparxoyn politikes eyqynes.

GARGALAKOS: Den antilambaneste; Yparxei mia sklhrh kritikh ek meroys ths antipoliteyshs.

ANTWNAROS: Ean ennoeite thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, opws eipe xqes o k. Roysopoylos sth dhlwsh toy, ejakoloyqei na kineitai sto dromo gia thn polwsh, opoy bebaiws emeis den prokeitai na thn akoloyqhsoyme. H Astynomia, qa hqela na pw, oti stis dyskoles peristaseis tis opoies oloi blepoyme stis thleoraseis epitelei to ergo ths me ton kalytero dynato tropo.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kata thn kybernhsh diapistwqhke na exoyn ginei laqh ston programmatismo ths fylajhs ths poreias h ths dhmosias perioysias; H ola eginan teleia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa molis.

BLAXOS: Eipate ``me ton kalytero dynato tropo''. Afhnete loipon na ennohqei...

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den afhnw na ennohqei tipote.

BLAXOS: Oxi, oxi, qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Ara, eseis ta blepete ola teleia;

ANTWNAROS: H topoqethsh moy einai safhs.

BLAXOS: To gegonos, paradeigma, oti kahke to fylakio ston Agnwsto Stratiwth, oti kata ena aparadekto tropo doqhke entolh, den jerw apo poion, na apoxwrhsoyn oi tsoliades apo ton Agnwsto Stratiwth, gia sas ayta entassontai mesa ston ``kalytero dynato tropo'';

ANTWNAROS: Profanws diafeygei ths prosoxhs sas oti o xwros ths ieras mnhmhs ths xwras mas, edw kai polles dekaeties, den fylassetai, dioti oydepote kapoios eixe dianohqei na ton bebhlwsei. Kai einai ntroph gi` aytoys toys ligoys diadhlwtes poy dianohqhkan na kanoyn kati tetoio.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eprepe oi tsoliades na fygoyn apo th skopia toys;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai antikeimeno ths enhmerwshs apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo na kanei tetoies ajiologhseis. Parola ayta, sthn anakoinwsh ths Genikhs Astynomikhs Dieyqynshs Attikhs anaferetai oti ayto kriqhke anagkaio gia logoys asfaleias. Sas eipa oti ekeino to opoio proexei einai na katadikasoyme ayth thn aparadekth prajh twn poly ligwn, oi opoioi dianohqhkan na kanoyn kati tetoio sto xwro opoy timoyme oloys osoi agwnisqhkan gia thn patrida, wste na apolambanoyme emeis shmera thn eleyqeria kai th Dhmokratia.

BLAXOS: H Astynomia zhthse na apomakrynqoyn oi tsoliades... ;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sthn anakoinwsh ths Genikhs Astynomikhs Dieyqynshs Attikhs. Den exw perissoteres leptomereies.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pera apo to oti an efygan h den efygan oi eyzwnes apo to mnhmeio, jerete oti sthn Aqhna brisketai o Proedros ths OYEFA k. Platini. Jerete oti se dyo mhnes apo shmera peripoy, exoyme enan teliko megalhs diorganwshs sthn Aqhna. H xqesinh eikona sas problhmatizei; Den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Oi eikones, asfalws, den einai kaqoloy eyxaristes. Einai dysarestes eikones. Den prokeitai na tis wraiopoihsw, alla h Aqhna ejakoloyqei na einai, opws olh h Ellada, apolytws asfalhs, opws sas eipa kai prin apo liges hmeres, gia polla ekatommyria episkeptwn poy erxontai sth xwra mas kai pernoyn poly kala, xarh sthn ellhnikh filojenia kai ston tropo poy toys ypodexomaste oloi mas. H symperifora mias meiochfias, poly oligwn, den mporei na amayrwsei ayth th genikh eikona, thn opoia exoyn oloi ektos twn synorwn ths xwras mas gia toys Ellhnes kai thn Ellada.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis: H prwth exei na kanei me to gegonos pera apo thn pragmati katadikastea symperifora diadhlwtwn koykoyloforwn na kacoyn to fylakio, ayto to fylakio den eprepe na eixe fylaxqei apo dynameis ths astynomias;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws den sas egine safes ayto to opoio eipa. Edw kai para polla xronia, dekaeties, aytos o xwros den fylassetai, dioti kaneis Ellhnas den eixe dianohqei na kanei mia tetoia aparadekth ierosylia.

PALAIOLOGOS: To deytero poy hqela na rwthsw: Epeidh yparxei mia genikoterh entypwsh pera apo to ti presbeyei kai ti pisteyei o kaqenas, gia oti yphrje sympaignia astynomias  koykoyloforwn k.l.p., gia na dhmioyrghqei olh ayth h eikona, poio einai to sxolio kai h qesh ths kybernhshs ep' aytoy; Yparxei sympaignia; Yparxei probokatsia apo thn pleyra...

ANTWNAROS: Ma ti einai ayta poy lete; Ayta poy isxyrizontai kapoioi ta kanete diko sas kthma; Einai dynaton;

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes chfisthke sth Boylh o nomos plaisio gia thn Paideia. Bghkan shmera stis thleoraseis kaqhghtes twn panepisthmiwn kai paidia foithtes, oi opoioi lene oti den prokeitai na apodexqoyme to nomo. Ayto shmainei paranomia; Dhladh yparxei Dhmokratia; Qa arnhqoyn na dexqoyn to nomo, den katalaba.

ANTWNAROS: O nomos gia thn Tritobaqmia Ekpaideysh o opoios, opws gnwrizete, chfisthke xqes sthn Boylh twn Ellhnwn kai kat' arqron apo jekaqarh pleiochfia, apo thn pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn boyleytwn. Oi nomoi prepei na efarmozontai. Kai o nomos aytos qa efarmostei.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ek toy apotelesmatos prokyptei ena erwthma. Yparxei ena keno. Ek toy apotelesmatos exoyme mia diadhlwsh thn opoia h astynomia eprepe ek twn proterwn na exei frontisei, na exei sxediasei metra tajhs, h opoia sth synexeia diadhlwsh, katelhje se megalh anataraxh kai malista kai me eyqynh ths astynomias.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ektimhsh thn opoia den symmerizomai.

GARGALAKOS: Giati xtyphse ena meros ths diadhlwshs kai oxi aplws toys koykoyloforoys. Telos pantwn... .

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti prokeitai gia dikh sas ektimhsh thn opoia den symmerizomai...

GARGALAKOS: Ek toy apotelesmatos den prokyptei ena keno sth sxediash ek meroys ths hgesias ths astynomias;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka me safhneia gia to qema ths astynomias.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Qelw na rwthsw, h kybernhsh pws blepei thn apofash ths astynomias na xrhsimopoihsei ta thleoptika plana gia na probei se syllhceis.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy to sygkekrimeno stoixeio. Qa hqela omws, gia mia akomh fora, na episthsw thn prosoxh sas se ayth thn antifash, h opoia akoygetai polles fores tis teleytaies ebdomades. Mia antifash thn opoia pragmatika dyskoleyomai na parakoloyqhsw. Mia paradojothta qa elega. Molis prin apo dyo  treis meres, kapoioi epekrinan me drimythta kai aysthrothta thn astynomia dioti den proxwroyse stis prosagwges h stis syllhceis oswn ferontai na emplekontai h emplekontai  egw lew ferontai na emplekontai  se prajeis bias, se parabatikes symperifores. Twra, xqes, h astynomia kata th diarkeia aytwn twn epeisodiwn proxwrhse sthn prosagwgh, ean den kanw laqos, enos shmantikoy ariqmoy, 61 atomwn, ws emplekomenoys se ayta ta gegonota. Epikrinetai h astynomia epeidh kanei th doyleia ths, epikrinetai h astynomia dioti feretai na mhn kanei th doyleia ths. Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti ayto einai entelws paradojo. Kai epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora oti den mporei na epikrinetai h ellhnikh astynomia dioti kata th diarkeia twn xqesinwn epeisodiwn synelabe atoma basei orismenwn stoixeiwn. Den eimai egw ekeinos o opoios qa krinei ayta ta stoixeia, alloi ta krinoyn. H ellhnikh Dikaiosynh krinei stoixeia se ayto to epipedo. Aytoi loipon qa kriqoyn kai qa diapistwqei ean kai efoson eixan emplokh se ayta ta gegonota.

BLAXOS: Katopin eorths dhladh qa diapistwqei h emplokh toys;

ANTWNAROS: H Dikaiosynh diapistwnei ean kapoios eixe emplokh basei twn yparxontwn stoixeiwn. Egw den eimai dikasths.

BLAXOS: Gia toys nearoys poy balane fwtia sto fylakio exete kamia plhroforhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia plhroforhsh.

BLABIANOS: Jeroyme ean ginontai anakriseis gi` ayto kaqayto to symban mprosta apo ton Agnwsto Stratiwth;

ANTWNAROS: Oi armodies arxes ths ellhnikhs Politeias kanoyn o,ti einai aparaithto.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Qewrei qemito h kybernhsh ayto poy sas rwthsa prin; Dhladh, na xrhsimopoihsei h astynomia plana gia na probei ...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy to sygkekrimeno isxyrismo ton opoio proballete.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h ADEDY se synenteyjh Typoy zhthse thn apopomph toy dioikhtoy toy Tameioy Epikoyrikhs Asfalishs Dhmosiwn Ypallhlwn, toy k. Shmaioforidh, kanontas logo malista gia prospaqeia diaxyshs kai metatopishs eyqynwn. H kybernhsh blepei na yparxei kapoio zhthma ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyn doqei oles oi apanthseis se politiko epipedo apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo k. Tsitoyridh. Exete enhmerwqei oti ginetai ereyna, h opoia brisketai se ejelijh. Otan oloklhrwqei, qa exete ta eyrhmata, ta stoixeia ayths ths ereynas. Sas ypenqymizw, gia mia akomh fora --opws eipa kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, otan proekyce to en logw qema-- oti h Epitroph Kefalaiagoras einai mia Epitroph thn opoia enisxyse kai qwrakise, me ola ekeina ta mesa ta opoia xreiazetai h Epitroph, h shmerinh kybernhsh. Einai loipon h Epitroph Kefalaiagoras h opoia proxwrhse stis prwtes kinhseis, stis oysiastikes kinhseis gia thn timwria, gia thn epibolh poinhs sth xrhmatisthriakh etaireia h opoia feretai emplekomenh se ayth thn ypoqesh. Otan yparjoyn perissotera stoixeia qa ta exete sth diaqesh sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to Ypoyrgeio Paideias skeftetai na aposyrei h na diorqwsei to biblio Istorias ths ST' tajhs Dhmotikoy, mesa sto opoio kata genikh ektimhsh diastreblwnetai h istoria twn Ellhnwn;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhka xqes kai parepemca stis dhlwseis tis opoies exei kanei h armodia Ypoyrgos k. Giannakoy. Aytes oi dhlwseis ejakoloyqoyn kai isxyoyn.

POYLIDOY: Exw dyo erwthseis. H prwth einai: Me eyqynh tinos anablhqhke h episkech Gkioyl, apo poias pleyras;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia anabolh. Yparxei aplws mh oristikopoihsh sygkekrimenwn hmeromhniwn. Isxyei ayto poy sas eipa tis teleytaies hmeres kat` epanalhch: H episkech isxyei apo th stigmh poy oristikopoioyntai oi hmeromhnies oi opoies syzhtoyntai, opws syzhtoyntai kai polla alla kata thn proetoimasia mias episkechs. Den oristikopoihqhkan hmeromhnies, synepws den yphrxe episkech.

POYLIDOY: To deytero erwthma moy: Xqes to brady arga, h kypriakh kybernhsh edwse entolh na gkremistei to fylakio ths Eqnofroyras sthn odo Lhdras. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy tis leptomereies. Eidhseografika aplws to gnwrizw. Ean qelete na enhmerwqw kai argotera na sas apanthsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw sto xqesino qema gia to opoio dhlwsate agnoia. Gia to firmani toy k. Aqanasopoyloy, toy Dieyqynonta Symboyloy ths DEH. Shmera, toylaxiston, yparxei ena sxolio epishmo apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs; Einai akatanohto to periexomeno ayths ths egkyklioy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa xqes --kai ejakoloyqei na isxyei kai shmera-- oti parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto syntakth ths sygkekrimenhs egkyklioy h epistolhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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