Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-03-06

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 6 Martioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 60921130

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 6 Martioy 2007

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligh wra h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs h opoia, opws gnwrizete, asxolhqhke me qemata Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. O armodios Ypoyrgos o k. Alogoskoyfhs exei kanei analytikes dhlwseis. Anaferqhke sth syzhthsh poy egine sto Symboylio EKOFIN thn perasmenh ebdomada, afoy kai ekei, opws kai shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, eishghqhke to qema toy Programmatos ths Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs.

- O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio stis 10.00 qa milhsei sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, xrwstate mia apanthsh apo xqes gia ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw akomh na sas dwsw apanthsh. Ayth thn wra ginetai synanthsh metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy Rwsoy presbh sto Megaro Majimoy . Otan teleiwsei, qa exw na sas pw kati.

GKOYTZANHS: Sxetizetai me thn emplokh poy dhmioyrghqhke sto qema logw ths anakoinwsews ths k. Mpakogiannh, h synanthsh toy presbh me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kamia emplokh den dhmioyrghqhke.

GKOYTZANHS: Pantws, den synhqizontai tetoioy eidoys synanthseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite;

GKOYTZANHS: Oti den synhqizontai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos na dexetai presbeis; Kanete laqos. An deite to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, to opoio einai dhmosio kai anakoinwmeno kai apo emena, qa diapistwsete oti exei synanthqei kai alles fores kai me to Rwso presbh kai me alloys presbeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Telika jeroyme pote qa erqei o k. Poytin edw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti ayth thn wra ginetai synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Rwso presbh. Otan teleiwsei pisteyw oti qa eimai se qesh na sas dwsw perissoteres plhrofories.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh shmera egine synanthsh sto Megaro Majimoy metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ths k. Mpakogiannh kai toy k. Meimarakh kai syzhthqhke to qema ths eleyshs, ths episkechs toy k. Gkioyl, mhpws exei oristikopoihqei gia to pote epikeitai h episkech toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sthn Ellada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egine synanthsh sto plaisio ths taktikhs synergasias poy exoyn oloi oi Ypoyrgoi me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai fysika kai oi dyo synarmodioi Ypoyrgoi toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynhs kai toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, oi opoioi, opws gnwrizete, exoyn polla koina qemata, enocei  swsta eipate- ths endexomenhs episkechs toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias k. Gkioyl. Egine epejergasia Metrwn Oikodomhshs Empistosynhs enocei kai ayths ths episkechs. Ayth th stigmh den yparxei kati pros anakoinwsh gia thn hmeromhnia ths episkechs. To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn qa sas enhmerwsei otan erqei h wra.

SPYRAKH: Egw qa hqela na kanw mia genikh erwthsh: Ean me aformh th symplhrwsh twn triwn xronwn apo th diakybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias exete proxwrhsei se enan kybernhtiko apologismo kai exete symperilabei ta basika toy shmeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ola ta Ypoyrgeia h ta perissotera Ypoyrgeia exoyn hdh kanei kapoies anakoinwseis sxetika me to kybernhtiko ergo. Shmasia exei oti h kybernhsh badizei epi tria xronia sth grammh sthn opoia desmeythke na badisei me to programma ths. Programma to opoio yperchfisthke apo toys Ellhnes polites stis ekloges ths 7hs Martioy toy 2004. H kybernhsh desmeyetai enwpion twn Ellhnwn politwn na synexisei ston ypoloipo xrono, ws to telos ths qhteias, ikanopoiwntas tis desmeyseis tis opoies exei analabei, se mia prospaqeia na beltiwqei h kaqhmerinothta toy Ellhna polith me o,ti ayto shmainei.

SPYRAKH: Ep` aytoy kyrie Ekproswpe. Dedomenoy oti eixate pei stis proeklogikes sas ejaggelies oti ta xrhmata ta opoia prosdokoysate na dwsete se epipedo ejaggeliwn qa proekyptan apo thn peristolh ths spatalhs kai ths diafqoras. Qelw na rwthsw ean eisaste ikanopoihmenoi apo ayto to egxeirhma, ean qewrei dhladh h kybernhsh oti ``noikokyrece'' to dhmosio tomea kai oti ejoikonomhse ekeina ta xrhmata ta opoia eixe balei stoxo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn katalytikh apanthsh mhn thn perimenete apo emena. Th dinoyn oi idioi oi ariqmoi, ta epiteygmata sta opoia exei proxwrhsei h kybernhsh mexri twra kai ta opoia anagnwrizontai kai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, apo thn Eurostat kai apo to EKOFIN. Einai bebaio oti h meiwsh toy elleimmatos apo to 7,8% poy htan otan paralabame th diakybernhsh ths xwras, se katw apo to 3%, apodeiknyei  den dhlwnei aplws, apodeiknyei- peritrana oti h kybernhsh ayth meiwse th spatalh sthn kratikh mhxanh.

KAKALHS: Ston trieth apologismo gia toys agrotes, ti exete na peite se o,ti afora tis proeklogikes desmeyseis gia meiwsh toy kostoys paragwghs h th desmeysh sas na meinoyn oi agrotes sth gh toys; Tria xronia meta, oi ejelijeis kinoyntai sthn akribws antiqeth kateyqynsh apo aytes poy eixate yposxeqei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete laqos. H proseggish sas einai teleiws diaforetikh pantws kai den sthrizetai se pragmatika stoixeia.

KAKALHS: Qa to apodeijete ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqhmerinws.

KAKALHS: Giati alla lene oi agrotes kai alla diekdikoyn. Aytoi profanws jeroyn perissotera apo emas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den lene alla oi agrotes. Aplws eseis alla akoyte h akoyte mono mia merida endexomenws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H ayrianh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, qa einai o apologismos ths trietias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ayrianh omilia qa afora ta tria xronia neas diakybernhshs kai tis prooptikes gia to mellon.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi plhrofories apo to oikonomiko reportaz lene oti sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph apofasisthke ena programma paroxwn. Mporoyme na eikasoyme oti qa pame syntoma se prowres ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prolabe na teleiwsei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai kykloforhsan kai plhrofories tetoioy eidoys; Oxi, den yparxei kapoia syzhthsh. Sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, opws sas eipa, syzhthqhke to programma staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs. Tipote perissotero.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eisepraje h ellhnikh kybernhsh ikanopoihsh apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn twn HPA, gia thn parembash me th gnwsth anakoinwsh stis amerikanorwsikes sxeseis kai thn egkatastash twn pyraylwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anafereste se ena qema gia to opoio exoyme milhsei poly. Prepei na dieykrinisoyme oti yparxei mia proseggish, h opoia -apo thn pleyra sas sthn erwthsh- den apotypwnei thn pragmatikothta. Einai ena qema gia to opoio exoyn milhsei kai alles kybernhseis eyrwpaikwn xwrwn. Den afora dimereis sxeseis kapoiwn xwrwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Poies kyrie Ekproswpe exoyn milhsei, giati jeroyme mexri stigmhs thn Polwnia kai thn Tsexia, tis amesa endiaferomenes kai kamia allh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Malista.

LEONTITSH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete melethsei twra poy perasan kai oi hmeres, leptomerws kai analytika to programma toy PASOK; Qa mas kanete kapoio sxolio, ep` aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den xreiasthke polys xronos. Apo thn prwth stigmh dwsame analytikes apanthseis. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Gia ta senaria poy yphrjan gia th diafwnia ths k. Mpakogiannh me to Megaro Majimoy, yphrjan kapoies plhrofories poy lene oti einai kypriakos daktylos. Qa hqela to sxolio sas ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta senaria ayta den einai oyte kan eyfantasta. Ta qewrw kakogoysta. Yparxei mia prospaqeia, opws apotypwsa sth dhlwsh moy to Sabbato, dhmioyrgias entypwsewn, oi opoies entypwseis blaptoyn toso thn kybernhtikh leitoyrgia, oso kai thn ejwterikh mas politikh. Den mpainw sth logikh na anazhthsw poioi einai aytoi poy qeloyn aytoy toy eidoys th blaptikh synepeia sthn kybernhtikh leitoyrgia h sthn ejwterikh mas politikh h kai sta dyo. Menw sth dhlwsh thn opoia exw kanei. H prajh apodeiknyei oti ta senaria ayta einai makran ths pragmatikothtas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs. Gefyrwqhkan oi diafores poy exoyn shmeiwqei to teleytaio diasthma metajy ths Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths k. Mpakogiannh kai toy Ypoyrgoy Amynas toy k. Meimarakh; Na shmeiwsw oti se ena apo ta shmeia poy yphrjan diafores, asxeta an omologhqhkan anoixta, htan kai to qema toy Ah Strath.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den antilambanomai giati milate gia diafores otan den yparxei kati na epibebaiwnei ayto to opoio rwtate.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, dedomenoy oti o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias eixe hdh perigracei ena paketo metrwn poy aforoyn sthn katapolemhsh ths ftwxeias kai...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, pro mhnos peripoy.

SPYRAKH: Nai, kai sthn enisxysh twn xamhlwn eisodhmatikwn tajewn, qa hqela na rwthsw ean exei erqei gia thn kybernhsh h wra ekeinh kata thn opoia qa yparjoyn kai oi sxetikes ejaggelies kai se ti baqos xronoy qa ginoyn aytes pragmatikothta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero apo thn analytikh, opws qymaste, synenteyjh Typoy toy k. Alogoskoyfh ekeinh thn hmera. Otan to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn exei kati na anakoinwsei, eimai bebaios oti qa to prajei.

SPYRAKH: Syzhthqhkan ayta ta qemata shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph; Giati h eikona poy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poia qemata; Giati einai poly genikh h erwthsh.

SPYRAKH: Ayto. To paketo gia th ftwxeia. Einai poly sygkekrimeno ayto poy rwtaw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa poia qemata syzhthqhkan sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph shmera. To paketo gia th ftwxeia einai mia politikh thn opoia anaptyssei h kybernhsh me ypeyqynothta, staqerothta kai strathgikh se baqos xronoy. Mia politikh poy exei anagkh kaqe eyrwpaikh oikonomia kai h dikh mas. Den einai ena qema poy antimetwpizoyme mono emeis, to antimetwpizoyn polles xwres sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh me ayth th sobarothta kai thn ypeyqynothta kai kyriws to strathgiko sxediasmo se baqos xronoy. Apeyqynqhke prin apo ligo kairo, dhmosiws, o armodios Ypoyrgos dinontas poly sygkekrimena stoixeia.

MAYRIDHS: Qewreite oti einai katallhlos o xronos aytos gia na episkefqei th xwra mas o k. Gkioyl;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den blepw giati oxi.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h prwinh trimerhs synanthsh sto Megaro Majimoy htan se kalo klima;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anaferqhka sthn arxh se erwthsh dikh sas. Eipa gia taktikh synergasia klp. Fysika htan se poly kalo klima. Se aristo.

GKOYTZANHS: Sth syzhthsh gia ta MOE, perilambanetai kai to qema toy Ah Strath kai twn gkrizwn zwnwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto, to eipa.

RABANOS: Sas paw se ena qema kaqhmerinothtas. Shmera eixame apokleismo twn Tempwn apo toys agrotes kai stis kinhtopoihseis aytes prwtostatoyn kai kapoioi syndikalistes oi opoioi proskeintai ston xwro ths Neas Dhmokratias. Sas anhsyxei h klimakwsh twn kinhtopoihsewn; Kai ena deytero ypoerwthma: Qewreite ta aithmata toys paraloga;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei kanei analytikh anakoinwsh, prin apo treis wres peripoy, o armodios Ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn k. Mpasiakos se sxesh me ta aithmata twn agrotwn. Einai megalh gia na sas th diabasw ean den thn jerete, ektos kai ean qelete.

RABANOS: Thn anakoinwsh thn jerw, einai apo to prwi ejalloy. O k. Mpasiakos exei kala antanaklastika. Sas rwthsa an sas anhsyxei h klimakwsh twn kinhtopoihsewn kai ena deytero, stis kinhtopoihseis aytes prwtostatoyn syndikalistes poy proskeintai sth Nea Dhmokratia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora th sxesh syndikalistikoy kinhmatos kai kommatwn, exw topoqethqei polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa, kai den allazei tipota. Se o,ti afora thn anhsyxia, qa sas elega oxi. Qewrw oti o sebasmos mas stoys agrotes exei apodeixqei kai sthn prajh. Anaferontai orismena mono apo ta stoixeia ta opoia eipe o k. Mpasiakos shmera -kai prosypografoyme oloi mas- gia thn ayjhsh ths epistrofhs toy FPA gia to agrotiko eisodhma, gia thn poreia ergwn opws einai ta ardeytika erga sth Qessalia eidika, gia to mhtrwo twn agrotwn, gia to programma aponitropoihshs, ena programma to opoio den einai mono oti syneisferei xrhmata sthn agrotikh oikonomia, alla bohqaei kai sth beltiwsh twn periballontikwn synqhkwn kai sthn prostasia toy periballontos en genei. Kai yparxei kai mia seira apo polles alles draseis. Qa sas elega, se mia genikh anafora gia tis opoies kinhtopoihseis, oti emeis sebomaste toys agrotes, sebomaste to logo kaqenos. Qelw na pisteyw oti qa sebastoyn kai oi idioi osoi briskontai shmera stis kinhtopoihseis, thn anagkh ths aproskopths leitoyrgias proswpwn kai agaqwn se olh thn Ellada.

POYLIDOY: Kata plhrofories sxediazetai mia koinh stratiwtikh askhsh Elladas  Kyproy kai fantazomai oti ayto htan ena qema poy syzhthqhke shmera, h opoia sxediazotan na ginei sta telh Martioy. Hqela na sas rwthsw ean yparxei neotero, ean qa ginei ayth h askhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Alla gnwrizete poly kala oti oi askhseis aytes anakoinwnontai apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, opote parakalw na apeyqynqeite ekei.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh fantazomai oti syndyazetai kai me thn episkech Gkioyl, gi` ayto sas rwtw esas.

PEPONHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den einai kaqysterhmenh ligo h enhmerwsh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs gia ta apotelesmata toy ECOFIN, otan o k. Alogoskoyfhs edwse synenteyjh thn perasmenh ebdomada kai enhmerwse thn koinh gnwmh gia to ti egine ekei; Ektos kai an syzhthqhkan kai alla pragmata shmera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den einai.

KAKALHS: Sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy EKOFIN yparxei sygkekrimenh desmeysh gia xronodiagramma lhchs metrwn gia to Asfalistiko, apenanti sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

GKOYTZANHS: Sto qema toy skandaloy me to Tameio twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, proekycan kapoia kainoyrgia stoixeia. Kat' arxhn oti h apofash gia thn epimaxh topoqethsh den htan omofwnh, opws yparxei eggrafo poy paroysiasthke thn Kyriakh sto ``QEMA''. Kaqws epishs oti yphrje mia praktikh kai enw synhqws h promhqeia gia tetoies prajeis einai 0,1 me 0,2% me th meqodeysh poy akoloyqhqhke eftase h promhqeia sto 5%. Den yparxoyn eyqynes gia ton proedro toy Tameioy - poy einai gnwstos, o k. Shmaioforidhs - kai endexomenws kai gia ton Ypoyrgo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas qymizw oti o Ypoyrgos edwse entolh, apo thn prwth stigmh, gia th dienergeia Diaxeiristikoy Elegxoy (DE), prokeimenoy na katagrafoyn apolytws, se syntomo xroniko diasthma. Opws exei dhlwsei kai o idios - oles aytes oi energeies kai na apodoqoyn tyxon eyqynes opoy yparxoyn.

PEPONHS: Xqes apantwntas se paromoia erwthsh eipate oti den prepei na poinikopoieitai h xrhmatisthriakh drash. Ayto, afistastai apo thn palia sas qesh gia ``egklhma toy Xrhmatisthrioy'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kamia sxesh den exei to ena me to allo. Ekei miloysame gia mia seira apo parembaseis oi opoies htan emfaneis  den xreiazetai na apodeixqei, htan emfaneis apo oloys  kai milame gia politikes parembaseis, sas qymizw, me dhmosies dhlwseis se poly ychlo epipedo apo ton tote armodio Ypoyrgo alla kai polloys alloys. Edw milame gia kati teleiws diaforetiko. Edw milame gia xrhmatisthriakh synallagh. Den poinikopoiei kanenas thn xrhmatisthriakh synallagh, se opoiodhpote xroniko shmeio toy orizonta kai ean exei ginei ayth. Einai poly shmantiko omws, h politeia, h kybernhsh na sebetai th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, th leitoyrgia olwn twn qesmwn ths oikonomias, ths agoras kai twn loipwn fysika qesmwn ths Dhmokratias kai na mhn parembainei me ton tropo poy parenebh ekeinh h kybernhsh kai polloi ypoyrgoi ths.

MANH: Sthn topoqethsh kratikwn ajiwmatoyxwn paizoyn rolo oi gnwseis toys; Gia paradeigma, o k. Agapios Shmaioforidhs htan tajiarxos. Ektimhqhke kata poso htan se qesh na dioikhsei ena asfalistiko tameio h se mia periptwsh poy thn eidame thn perasmenh ebdomada, ypeyqynos Epitrophs Promhqeiwn sthn EQEL einai katoxos apolythrioy Dhmotikoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To erwthma sas to apanta h idia h agora, h idia h zwh. Den jerw ti spoydes exete kanei kai poia einai h sxesh sas me th dhmosiografia...

MANH: Oikonomika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete spoydasei loipon oikonomika  opws moy lete  kai kanete politiko reportaz ws dhmosiografos. Qa mporoyse me th dikh sas logikh na mhn isxyei to ena kai to allo giati einai asymbibasto.

MANH: An dioikoysa to Tameio qa to ``petaga'' kai egw ejw, omws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas eyxomoyn tote na mhn dioikhsete pote Tameio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den qa prepei na stamathsei ayth h istoria twn Tameiwn, na paizoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio xrhmata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den omilei kaneis peri paignioy, milame gia xrhmatisthriakes synallages kai panta ayth einai h dokimh anafora...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tzogos einai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai ekeino poy eipa kai xqes. Den qymamai ean htan se diko sas erwthma h toy k. Gkoytzanh, alla qa epanalabw thn idia apanthsh, den exw na pw kati perissotero: H diaxeirish toy dhmosioy xrhmatos proypoqetei poly megalh prosoxh. Qa parakalesw na perimenoyme na oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes oi opoies exoyn jekinhsei apo thn prwth stigmh. Sas qymizw, gia na mhn jexname ta pragmata, oti h Epitroph Kefalaiagoras enisxyqhke qesmika apo ayth thn kybernhsh. H Epitroph Kefalaiagoras htan ekeinh h opoia parenebh. To Tameio einai ekeino to opoio synedriase se dioikhtiko symboylio kai proxwrhse se mhnythria anafora. Kai o armodios Ypoyrgos apo thn prwth stigmh edwse entolh na dienerghqei h EDE prokeimenoy syntoma na exoyme apotelesmata. Na eiste bebaioi, oti ta opoia apotelesmata qa dhmosiopoihqoyn kai efoson yparxoyn eyqynes qa apodoqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw den lew gia tis eyqynes. Egw lew: Den qa prepei h kybernhsh twra, meta apo osa exoyn ginei kai sto parelqon kai twra poy egine ayto me ta tameia, na stamathsoyn na xrhsimopoioyn ta apoqematika gia na ta paizoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio; Na ginetai enas tzogos sto Xrhmatisthrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn megala oikonomika ofelh se polla Tameia - an oxi se ola ta Tameia - otan ginetai xrhsth dioikhsh, otan den paremballontai ypoqeseis opws ayth  an apodeixqei oti exoyme zhmia kai ti ycoys, qa ta doyme ayta sthn poreia  gia ta idia ta Tameia. Antilambaneste oti kefalaia ta opoia ``koimoyntai'', einai kefalaia ta opoia den apodidoyn stoys asfalismenoys oi opoioi exoyn plhrwsei ta xrhmata ayta ta opoia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw exw antiqeth apoch. Osoi exoyn paijei apo Tameia se xrhmatisthria, exoyn meiwqei ta esoda toys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai bebaios oti ayto synebh, to exoyme dei sto parelqon, kai eidika thn periodo ekeinh toy '99  2000. Den symbainei kati tetoio shmera.

KAKALHS: Poies eggyhseis mporei na yparxoyn gi' ayth th xrhsth diaxeirish sto tzogarisma twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn, poy anerxontai sta 28 dis eyrw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na sas pw: Moy kanete mia sobarh erwthsh xrhsimopoiwntas mia fraseologia h opoia yponomeyei thn erwthsh sas. Den nomizw oti einai timhtiko oyte gia sas oyte kai gia mena. En pash periptwsei, exw dwsei apanthsh.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite eseis, yparxei kapoios koinwnikos elegxos se ayth th diaxeirish...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei sto erwthma sas.

Sas eyxaristw.

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