Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-02-26

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 26 Febroyarioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 59559536

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 26 Febroyarioy 2007

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Qodwros Pagkalos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xronia toy polla.

BLAXOS: 'Exete diabasei shmera gia th synenteyjh toy poy anaferetai se esas kai ston Karamanlh, poy leei oti eseis kaqorizete thn eidhseografia. Loipon, einai etsi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti kaqenas apo esas mporei na dwsei apanthsh sto qema. Den qa sxoliasw.

BLAXOS: Eseis, ti apanthsh dinete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth poy edwsa molis twra.

MPALHS: Mhpws exete kapoio sxolio gia tis anafores toy k. Papandreoy, diplh anafora toy k. Papandreoy se perierges sxeseis ths kybernhshs me toys koykoyloforoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekana mia dhlwsh xqes. Qa hqela na pw oti oso pio poly dyskoleyoyn, eswkommatika, ta pragmata gia ton k. Papandreoy, toso pio poly ojynei thn katastash. Pragma to opoio den wfelei oyte ton idio, oyte, poly perissotero, ton topo.

BLAXOS: Sto aithma gia ekloges ti apantate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa ginoyn sthn wra toys, opws exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos.

BLAXOS: Ayth thn wra, mporeite na mas thn peite giati thn caxnoyme kai emeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: 07.00 to prwi me 07.00 to apogeyma, opws eixe pei kai o k. Tasoylas... .

BLAXOS: Qa einai Kyriakh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanonika Kyriakh.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa einai Kyriakh h mhpws kanete kamia metarryqmish;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanonika, kanonika.

KAKALHS: H drash twn koykoyloforwn antikeimenika den eynoei ta sxedia ths kybernhshs kai h idia h kybernhsh dia stomatos toy k. Antwnaroy thn perasmenh Paraskeyh den elege, den ypodeiknye diarkws oti ta plana milane apo mona toys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai mia antilhch h opoia, nomizw, den briskei kanenan symfwno.

GKOYTZANHS: Tis dhlwseis toy k. Papandreoy gia toys koykoyloforoys tis apodidete sta eswkommatika toy PASOK. Thn apoxwrhsh toy PASOK apo th Boylh gia thn anaqewrhsh, epishs sta eswkommatika. Den yparxei kati allo poy na kaqorizei thn politikh enos kommatos, kata thn apoch sas; Mono ta eswkommatika toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dystyxws, nomizw oti to PASOK ton teleytaio kairo kaqorizei etsi thn politikh toy. Alla kai pali lanqasmena gia to idio. Toylaxiston, apo ayta poy antilambanomai diabazontas endelexws -kai egw opws kai eseis- tis metrhseis ths koinhs gnwmhs.

BLAXOS: Mias kai briskete polla problhmata sta eswkommatika toy PASOK, mhpws einai h wra gia ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

LEONTITSH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poia alla nomosxedia prowqei h kybernhsh sth seira meta to nomo-plaisio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti ayrio, gia paradeigma, qa syzhthqoyn sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs. Qa yparjoyn anakoinwseis gi` ayto.

LEONTITSH: Pros chfish, amesa pros chfish meta to...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia seira apo nomosxedia ta opoia, opws gnwrizete, exoyn desmeytei ta ypoyrgeia na feroyn, me bash to proeklogiko mas programma. Qa ginoyn ola sthn wra toys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai gegonos oti to teleytaio diasthma exei anazwpyrwqei h filologia peri eklogwn, qelw na rwthsw eyqews an...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati to lete ayto;

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto einai ayto poy leme ``orato dia gymnoy ofqalmoy''. To qema einai to ejhs: Ean ontws synexizei na dexetai o Prwqypoyrgos eishghseis apo kapoioys ypoyrgoys na proxwrhsei twra se ekloges kai an yparxei dhmoskophsh sta syrtaria toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy na leei to antiqeto, oti o kosmos den qelei ekloges.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas: Oxi, den yparxei kapoia tetoia dhmoskophsh. Oson afora to prwto erwthma: Exete dikio, oti h filologia einai ``orath dia gymnoy ofqalmoy''. Oi ekloges den einai orates, toylaxiston, akomh.

BLAXOS: To exete pei ayto kai se Ypoyrgoys, kyrie Ekproswpe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Erwtwmai apo toys dhmosiografoys kai apantw stoys dhmosiografoys.

BLAXOS: Gia thn eklogofilologia an to exete pei se ypoyrgoys. Giati apo ekei phgazei kai ayth h filologia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti proerxetai apo toys ypoyrgoys ayth h filologia. Yparxei hdh mia syzhthsh poy ginetai edw kai para poly kairo. O Prwqypoyrgos exei pei polles fores thn apoch ths kybernhshs. Thn exw epanalabei ki egw polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa. Den yparxei qema epi ths oysias.

KAKALHS: Ma, ayth h dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn sthn wra toys einai poy pyrodotei, apotelei th bash, gia thn eklogologia, akribws giati den jekaqarizei eyqews pote qa ginoyn ekloges. Giati den bgainei me mia dhlwsh toy na jekaqarisei to klima ths eklogologias, legontas oti qa ginoyn sto telos ths tetraetias. Na to pei, eyqews, o idios.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To exei pei polles fores.

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, kanete laqos. Ayth htan h teleytaia dhlwsh, h teleytaia version. O Prwqypoyrgos to exei pei para polles fores, ``sthn wra toys'', ``ton Martio toy 2008'', ``sto telos ths tetraetias'' k.o.k. Den eida na stamathsei h parafilologia, paroti to exei pei polles fores.

BLAXOS: Pantws, kyrie Ekproswpe, einai allo pragma na leei o Prwqypoyrgos ``ekloges to 2008'' kai allo pragma sth synexeia na allazei th frash toy kai na leei ``oi ekloges sthn wra toys''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pantws to exei pei ayto.

BLAXOS: Nai, bebaiws to exei pei, alla h diaforopoihsh sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, pyrodothse senaria.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai bebaio oti o k. Papandreoy qa janazhthsei ekloges, opote qa exei thn eykairia o Prwqypoyrgos na dwsei apanthsh, epanalambanontas thn apoch ths kybernhshs h opoia einai staqerh.

XIWTHS: Den katalaba ayto poy eipate nwritera. Amfibalete oti h pleiochfia twn melwn ths kybernhshs einai yper twn prowrwn eklogwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To mono poy den qelw na kanoyme se ayth thn aiqoysa einai na prospaqei o kaqenas na epibebaiwnei ta reportaz toy. Sebomai to reportaz toy kaqenos, den qelw omws na mpw se ayth th diadikasia.

XIWTHS: Den prospaqw na epibebaiwsw kanena reportaz, kyrie Ekproswpe. Zhtw th dikh sas aisqhsh. Ekfrazete thn kybernhsh. Exete thn aisqhsh oti oi Ypoyrgoi den qeloyn prowres ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, 7 xronia twra, apo th qesh toy Ekproswpoy Typoy, den omilw peri aisqhsewn, oyte ceydaisqhsewn, alla mono gia thn pragmatikothta. Sas eipa poia einai h pragmatikothta apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Basei toy Syntagmatos, prowres ekloges ginontai otan yparxoyn megala eqnika zhthmata h briskontai se krisimes stigmes. Ayth th stigmh pisteyete oti yparxei sthn Ellada krisimo qema wste na odhghqoyme se prowres ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai mia erwthsh - pagida giati an apanthsw oti yparxei -opws yparxoyn panta megala qemata- qa eikasei kaneis oti emmesws prospaqw na ypodeijw xrono eklogwn, pragma to opoio den symbainei. Kaqe xwra antimetwpizei mia seira apo qemata ta opoia exoyn eqnikh shmasia. Ayto omws einai apokommeno plhrws apo to aithma - erwthma -aithma paei sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, erwthma stoys dhmosiografoys- gia to an qa ginoyn prowres ekloges, to opoio exei apanthqei eparkws.

XIWTHS: Apo tis mexri twra apofaseis poy exei labei o Prwqypoyrgos, den exoyme thn aisqhsh oti apofasizei monos alla akoyei arketa syxna toys synergates toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw qa elega oti einai entelws antiqeth apoch. Ontws akoyei poly toys synergates toy alla apofasizei monos toy.

XIWTHS: Ara, pisteyete oti kai h apofash gia tis ekloges qa einai mia apofash poy qa labei apokleistika o idios, xwris na ephreazetai apo ton perigyro toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei dhmosiopoihsei o idios thn apoch toy gi` ayto to qema.

XIWTHS: Syggnwmh gia thn epimonh, h apoch toy, kyrie Ekproswpe, einai mia apoch poy ekfrazetai twra. Den shmainei oti kai se ena mhna, otan endexomenws qa exei oloklhrwqei kai h syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh qa exei thn idia. Den ton empodizei kaneis na allajei. Ara, ayto poy erwtw einai: Otan qa apofasisei oristika, meta to telos ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs, qa apofasisei monos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw an exete kapoia plhroforia poy den exw. Qa meinw se osa exw pei mexri twra.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh blepete kai eseis o idios oti to qema ths eklogologias monopwlei to endiaferon mas...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws den yparxei kapoio allo qema. As eimaste eilikrineis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxoyn para polla qemata, alla na rwthsw to ejhs: Efoson eseis ws kybernhsh aporriptete tis ekloges, poy apodidete tote olh ayth thn ekrhjh ths filologias; Mhpws endexomenws se eswkommatika poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn kybernhsh; Se endokybernhtikes, proswpikes, as to poyme, strathgikes h ekporeyontai apo strathgikes poy aforoyn to eswteriko toy PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa mpw ston peirasmo na gracw kapoio senario.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sxolio sas zhtw na kanete, den einai senario. Ta senaria ta blepoyme etsi ki alliws kaqhmerina stis efhmerides kai ston Typo. Rwtaw, an qewreite oti ta senaria ayta ekporeyontai apo eswkommatikes skopimothtes toy PASOK.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti apo thn optikh gwnia toy dhmosiografoy ofeilate na yperaspisteite oti den blepete senaria, alla reportaz ston Typo. Alla, me dieykolynei ayto poy lete.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn perasmenh ebdomada sthn ekpomph toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy paroysiasthke ena reportaz poy aforoyse thn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh. Symfwna me ta stoixeia aytoy toy reportaz, h k. Mpakogiannh to '90 eixe ejagorasei chfoys prokeimenoy na eklegei sthn Eyrytania. Exei ypoch ths to reportaz h kybernhsh kai exei diereynhsei me dikoys ths tropoys ta stoixeia ayta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na kanw mia dhlwsh gi' ayto: Mas kalyptei plhrws h apanthsh h opoia doqhke sth diarkeia ths ekpomphs poy anaferate apo ton tote Geniko Dieyqynth ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Sgardelh. Pisteyw oti einai jekaqarh h apanthsh kai den xreiazetai na symplhrwsw tipote perissotero se mia emfanws, apo to proswpo poy th diakinei, kataskeyasmenh ypoqesh.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara to exete diereynhsei kai me dikoys sas tropoys gia na lete oti einai kataskeyasmenh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh moy nomizw oti apanta kai se ayto to erwthma sas.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti prin ligo kairo o k. Polydwras eixe kanei mia dhlwsh oti kapoioi sthnoyn skhniko aimatos. Se syndyasmo me thn stash ths astynomias, qa hqela na sas rwthsw h kybernhsh qelei na apofygei opoiadhpote sygkroysh swma me swma me thn astynomia twn diadhlwtwn gia na apofygei thn kakia stigmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti exw na apanthsw kati analytikotero apo ta osa exoyn eipwqei se ayth thn aiqoysa ton teleytaio kairo kai apo ton k. Antwnaro kai apo emena palaiotera.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti qa katateqoyn nomosxedia. Qa einai metajy aytwn kai to nomoqetiko plaisio gia tis etaireies dhmoskophsewn kai metrhsewn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei, pros to paron, mia syzhthsh sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, opoy exoyn klhqei kai exoyn milhsei diaforoi emplekomenoi foreis, me toys opoioys exw synanthqei kai egw sto parelqon. Me ton Syndesmo Etaireiwn Dhmoskophsewn (SEDEA) synanthqhka ton perasmeno Oktwbrio kai exw syzhthsei analytika. Malista, apotelesma ayths ths syzhthsews htan mia epistolh h opoia estalh apo ton Syndesmo kai sta ypoloipa kommata. Den exei oloklhrwqei akoma o dialogos gia na doyme poies einai oi ryqmiseis oi opoies xreiazetai na ginoyn. Se kaqe periptwsh qelw na qymisw oti sto pedio twn dhmoskophsewn, opws kai twn MME, qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias - apo thn periodo poy eimaste antipoliteysh - einai oti qa prepei na sebetai kapoios se ena poly megalo pososto thn aytorryqmish kai na nomoqetei mono sta apolytws aparaithta. Ayth einai kai h mexri twra poreia sthn trietia poy dihlqame ws kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla yparxei omws kai h epistolh toy k. Soyrla kai h dhlwsh toy k. Papaiwannoy oti oi etaireies dhmoskophsewn ta pairnoyn gia na bgazoyn chla kapoioys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw kamia dhlwsh h epistolh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi'ayto sas lew. Giati den proxwrate se nomoqetikh ryqmish;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs sas lew oti ta nomoqethmata den einai mhxanhmata poy rixnei kaneis to kerma kai bgainei to koytaki me to anacyktiko. Einai ypoqeseis oi opoies exoyn mia barythta, mia sobarothta kai ypoqeseis oi opoies xreiazontai para poly leptoys xeirismoys. Epishs, ajiologoyntai me thn ennoia oti den mporei na prowqhqei mia seira nomoqethmatwn mazi. Yparxoyn pragmata poy exoyn ginei kai ta opoia exoyn proteraiothta shmantikoterh apo alla.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Telika me thn AGB ti exei ginei; Leitoyrgei paranoma h kanonika; Exei adeia apo poyqena;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia diadikasia sthn opoia exoyn emplakei kai to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys kai mia seira allwn yphresiwn. Na etoimastw kai na sas apanthsw ayrio giati ayth th stigmh den exw proxeiro, se poia fash brisketai ayth h ypoqesh.

GKOYTZANHS: Gia to nomoqethma gia thn adeiodothsh twn kanaliwn ti qa ginei kyrie Ekproswpe; Qa to ferete entos ayths ths Boylhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai.

GKOYTZANHS: An den apatwmai palaiotera otan sas eixa janakanei ayth thn erwthsh eixate pei syntoma, alla den eixate prosdiorisei to syntoma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai. Isxyei to ``syntoma''.

BLAXOS: Pote;

GKOYTZANHS: Mexri to telos ths tetraetias dhladh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto den einai kai toso syntoma.

BLAXOS: Exete mhna kyrie Ekproswpe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto to nomosxedio opws jerete, einai ena poly megalo nomosxedio. Exei mia seira apo ryqmiseis poy den aforoyn mono zhthmata adeiodothshs afora kai ta zhthmata sygkentrwshs, ta opoia exoyn antimetwpistei apospasmatika sto parelqon sth xwra mas. Gnwrizete poly kala oti gia na ftasoyme edw poy exoyme ftasei shmera - kai opoy einai sxedon etoimo to nomosxedio  tajideca proswpika o idios me synergates moy se megales xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, prokeimenoy na katagracoyme ta systhmata kai na antallajoyme apoceis gia to ti isxyei. Sthn Komision, exoyn antallagei apoceis me thn armodia Epitropo oxi mia, alla poly perissoteres fores. Exoyn ginei dhmosies syzhthseis kai synanthseis sthn parakeimenh aiqoysa me th symmetoxh forewn apo olh thn Ellada kai apo oloys toys xwroys. Symmeteixan de se ayton ton anoikto dialogo peri toys saranta foreis. Exoyn ginei hdh synanthseis me ekproswpoys twn kommatwn. Exei ginei poly megalh doyleia ta teleytaia dyo xronia. Den einai kaqoloy aplo, kyriws dioti h dikh moy prospaqeia einai na perilhfqoyn lyseis se praktika problhmata, tis opoies qa dwsei ayth h kybernhsh me to nomoqetiko plaisio poy etoimazoyme kai me thn ajiopoihsh ths texnologias kai dh ths chfiakhs texnologias. H ajiopoihsh ths chfiakhs texnologias pisteyw oti qa bohqhsei sthn epilysh xroniwn problhmatwn, opws gia paradeigma sthn ejeyresh perissoterwn syxnothtwn, gnwrizete oti h spanis einai ekeinh poy apo th synqhkh ths Rwmhs kiolas epebale thn kratikh epopteia se qemata radiofwnoy kai thleorashs. Exoyme kanei loipon poly megalh doyleia. Pisteyw oti exoyme plhsiasei sto telos. Kai to ``syntoma'', akoma kai ean den orizei to xroniko diasthma, mporei na epanalhfqei sto erwthma gia to pote qa einai etoimo.

BLAXOS: Den yparxei mhnas kyrie Ekproswpe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

LEONTITSH: Qa pragmatopoihqei telika to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Aystralia kai ean exei anablhqei gia pote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws qa pragmatopoihqei. Qa sas anakoinwsw thn hmeromhnia otan oristikopoihqei.

GKOYTZANHS: Xqes yphrxe ena dhmosieyma sthn efhmerida  TO QEMA gia enan boyleyth toy kybernwntos kommatos, ton k. Miltiadh Barbitsiwth, an den apatwmai anaplhrwth Koinoboyleytiko Ekproswpo kai tomearxh, gia th symmetoxh toy se ena party epixeirhmatia toy k. Xatzhiwannoy, to opoio kostise peripoy ena ekatommyrio eyrw. Eixe kai metafores se ejwtika nhsia. Ws pros ton epixeirhmatia oydeis cogos bebaia, dika toy einai ta lefta, oti qelei ta kanei. Gia to boyleyth, symfwna me thn kybernhsh, dhmioyrgeitai qema apo tetoioy eidoys symperifores;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia proswpikh sxesh pollwn etwn kai nomizw oti den prepei kaneis na poinikopoiei aytes tis proswpikes sxeseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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