Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-01-22

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 22 Ianoyarioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 53218271

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 22 Ianoyarioy 2007

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, Trith 23 Ianoyarioy, stis 11.00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, me qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Toyristikhs Anaptyjhs. Amesws meta, stis 12.00, qa synedriasei to KYSEA, epishs ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me antikeimeno qemata ths armodiothtas toy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th dhlwsh thn opoia ekane shmera o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, k. Baggelhs Meimarakhs sthn efhmerida ``EQNOS''. O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas leei oti xreiazetai na ginei enas eyrys dialogos, na jekinhsei amesa, prokeimenoy na yparjei enas epanaprosdiorismos ths leitoyrgias twn Anejarthtwn Dioikhtikwn Arxwn.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei polles fores se ayto to qema. H leitoyrgia twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn, opws gnwrizete, einai katoxyrwmenh apo to Syntagma. H kybernhsh sebetai tis Anejarthtes Arxes kai th leitoyrgia toys, giati oi Anejarthtes Arxes, opws sas eipe kai thn perasmenh ebdomada o k. Roysopoylos, einai tmhma, einai kommati ths ellhnikhs Politeias.

SARANTAKOS: Kata synepeia, den xreiazetai na ginei kanenos eidoys dialogos.

ANTWNAROS: Molis topoqethqhka.

BLAXOS: Kata thn kybernhsh, yparxoyn politikoi h kommata poy eynooyn aytes tis synqhkes poy zhsame to teleytaio diasthma sto kentro ths Aqhnas;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai to akribes periexomeno ths erwthshs sas.

BLAXOS: An yparxoyn, kata thn kybernhsh, politikoi h politika kommata poy eynooyn aytes tis anataraxes poy yparxoyn sto kentro ths Aqhnas, me tis molotof, toys koykoyloforoys kai ola ayta.

ANTWNAROS: Den exei diatypwsei pote h kybernhsh enan tetoio isxyrismo.

BLAXOS: To gegonos oti diatypwnoyn orismenoi boyleytes;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthsate gia th qesh ths kybernhshs kai topoqethqhka ek meroys ths kybernhshs, thn opoia kai ekproswpw.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dedomenoy oti h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh den einai aplh boyleyths, einai kai Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, xqes sto ``EQNOS'' eipe oti h lejh ``katadikazw'' h ``den katadikazw'' den qelei ermhneia toy lejikoy Mpampiniwth, den isxyei h logikh toy ``oligon egkyos''. Den einai epishs mia dhlwsh poly jekaqarh oti emmesws kalei kai ekeinh to Synaspismo na katadikasei eyqews ola ayta ta fainomena, ta opoia, kata th gnwmh ths, qewrei oti o Synaspismos den ta katadikazei;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia amfibolia oti ola ta kommata ta opoia ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn qa prepei na katadikazoyn tetoies prajeis bias, tetoia ektropa, tetoies prajeis oi opoies den synadoyn se kamia periptwsh me th leitoyrgia ths Dhmokratias mas.

KORAH: Qewreite oti o Synaspismos den to kanei sto baqmo poy isws qa hqele h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Molis topoqethqhka. Den exw na pw kati allo.

BLAXOS: Otan lete oti den exete kamia amfibolia, ennoeite oti toys exete rwthsei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den exw kamia amfibolia oti ola ta kommata poy ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh qa prepei na katadikazoyn tetoies prajeis bias.

BLAXOS: A, qa prepei na katadikazoyn. Ara, ta kaleite na paroyn qesh, dhmosia. Ayto mas lete.

SIDERHS: Den einai logiko, otan kati einai dysleitoyrgiko na koitame na to diaforopoihsoyme kai na ginei leitoyrgiko; Anaferomai stis Anejarthtes Arxes. Sebastos o sebasmos sas pros aytes ypo to paron kaqestws. Wstoso, xqes diabasame dhmosieymata poy eidame to tragelafiko na mhn mporoyn ereynhtes istorikoi na paremboyn se gegonota toy Emfylioy, epeidh, leei kapoioi apo toys prwtagwnistes zoyn kai ara, qigontai ta proswpika toys dedomena. Den qa prepei na allajei ayto to asteio kaqestws;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw, eseis ti apokaleite ``asteio''. Apokaleite ``asteio'' tis ryqmiseis sxetika me th leitoyrgia twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn, symfwna me to Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys; Egw, ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, sebomai kai to Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys. Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw de, oti molis proxqes o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Papalhgoyras tonise oti h leitoyrgia twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn sth xwra mas, enos qesmoy o opoios se para polles alles xwres exei mia makroterh xronikh diadromh, einai kati to opoio sthn Ellada efarmozetai edw kai liga xronia molis. Ola ayta, gnwrizete oti qeloyn mia wrimansh kai krinontai se baqos xronoy.

SIDERHS: Mhpws sas boleyei na einai aytes to ``alejikerayno'', na epanapayeste sthn yparjh toys kai na mhn pairnete politikes apofaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete oti th shmerinh kybernhsh den mporei na thn kathgorhsei kaneis gia mh lhch politikwn apofasewn.

BLAXOS: Qelw na kanw dyo erwthseis. H k. Giannakoy xqes, legontas oti o laos qa apofasisei se mia krisimh fash an eiselqei to qema ths Paideias, yponoei oti mporei h kybernhsh, an entaqoyn oi antidraseis, na pame kai se prowres ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Molis proxqes, sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, topoqethqhke o Prwqypoyrgos me apolyta jekaqaro tropo, gia mia akomh fora, gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Oi ekloges prokeitai na ginoyn stis arxes toy 2008, opws problepei to Syntagma. Kalo qa htan na mhn apodidontai ston enan h ston allo Ypoyrgo isxyrismoi oi opoioi, me ayth th morfh me thn opoia eseis toys paroysiasate, den eipwqhkan. H kybernhsh exei pollh doyleia akomh mprosta ths mexri tis ekloges toy 2008. Oi metarryqmiseis synexizontai, opws synexizetai kai h dhmosia diaboyleysh, opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, gia tis megales qesmikes allages. Krites --kai ayto einai apolytws fysiko, ayto profanws ennooyse h k. Giannakoy-- olwn aytwn twn qematwn, einai bebaiws oi Ellhnes polites, oi opoioi kaloyntai kaqe tessera xronia na krinoyn thn politikh thn opoia exei efarmosei synolika mia kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: H deyterh erwthsh: Ekkremei apo ton k. Roysopoylo, dhladh apo thn kybernhsh, mia apanthsh sto erwthma moy, ti qa kanei h kybernhsh me thn paranomh leitoyrgia ths kameras poy yparxei ejw apo ta ktiria twn megalwn kommatwn, olwn twn kommatwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na sas dwsw ayth th stigmh kapoia apanthsh. Ej oswn gnwrizw, omws, sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias den yparxoyn tetoies kameres.

BLAXOS: Wraia, sth Nea Dhmokratia den yparxoyn, sta alla kommata poy yparxoyn, qa parete metra, qa tis stamathsete, einai paranomes;

ANTWNAROS: Einai qema, opws gnwrizete, ths sygkekrimenhs Anejarthths Arxhs.

GARGALAKOS: Gia ermhneyste moy ligo th dhlwsh sas, katalaba kala oti apokleiete na ginoyn prowres ekloges ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, entos toy 2007;

ANTWNAROS: Erwthqhka apo ton k. Blaxo gia kati poly sygkekrimeno kai sas parepemca sthn anafora thn opoia ekane gia pollosth fora, proxqes, kata th synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, o Prwqypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: Zhthsate apo ta kommata na katadikasoyn prajeis bias...

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa oti pisteyw pws ola ta kommata prepei na katadikazoyn aytes tis prajeis bias, oi opoies den synadoyn me th leitoyrgia toy dhmokratikoy politeymatos mas.

KAKALHS: Ayto emmesa eipate, oti prepei na katadikazoyn tetoies prajeis bias. Qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: H kybernhsh katadikazei thn astynomikh bia poy sxedon kaqhmerina askeitai se baros twn diadhlwtwn poy diadhlwnoyn gia ta dikaiwmata toys h ayth einai h bia poy synadei me th Dhmokratia, opws eipate prohgoymenws;

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete oti h Astynomia einai epifortismenh me th diathrhsh ths tajhs kai taytoxrona me th fylajh ths zwhs kai ths perioysias twn Ellhnwn politwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh qewrei pws yparxoyn aytoklhtoi yperaspistes twn koykoyloforwn. Epeidh eipate oti qa prepei ta kommata na katadikazoyn tetoies prajeis --kai ayto synista sthn oysia emmesws protroph-- ean einai ikanopoihmenh apo th stash stelexwn toy Synaspismoy.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai fysika na apanthsw se erwthsh poy periexei tosa polla ypoqetika ``ean''.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na thn kanw pio sygkekrimenh. Qewrei h kybernhsh oti yparxoyn aytoklhtoi yperaspistes sto xwro toy SYN twn koykoyloforwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den apodidw kamia momfh se kanena koinoboyleytiko komma.

GKOYTZANHS: Apodokimazei h kybernhsh tis momfes kai tis epiqeseis enantion koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn; Giati eixame kati tetoio tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw se ti anafereste. H kybernhsh sebetai th leitoyrgia olwn twn koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn.

SARANTAKOS: Poia einai h stash ths kybernhshs apenanti sthn protash poy qa kataqesei to PASOK gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia to megalo qema twn ypoklopwn.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhtikhs pleiochfias einai kala gnwsth, edw kai poly kairo. H qesh ayth ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

SARANTAKOS: Peite mas ti lete, giati shmera qa ginei mallon kai h kataqesh.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas einai gnwsth. Efoson yparxei dikastikh diereynhsh gia ena qema se ejelijh, den krinetai xrhsimh h systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Alla ayto einai qema gia to opoio qa apofasisei h Boylh.

SIDERHS: Pali sto qema twn eklogwn. Blepoyme oti paralyei h paideia. Den einai ``ean'', einai diakhrygmenes proqeseis, enocei kai ths chfishs toy arqroy 16 kai toy nomoy plaisioy. To na lete ``oxi, den qa ginoyn ekloges'' dogmatika, shmainei elleich prosarmostikothtas kai eylygisias ek meroys ths kybernhshs, ean blepete paralymenh thn Paideia gia eji mhnes kai eseis den pate se ekloges, epeidh qelete na diathrhsete tis arxes.

ANTWNAROS: Epitrecte moy na blepw to qema apo allh optikh gwnia apo ayth poy to analyete eseis.

KORAH: Pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh toy Proedroy toy LAOS k. Karatzaferh, o opoios kalese toys chfoforoys na synaspistoyn enantion toy SYN, ths anarxias kai ths koykoyloforias; Dhladh, taytise oyte ligo, oyte poly to SYN me toys gnwstoys-agnwstoys. Epishs, xarakthrise ena stelexos toy SYN, ton k. Stratoylh, ws Prwqypoyrgo. Leei oti aytos einai o Prwqypoyrgos, oxi o k. Karamanlhs.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio.

SIDERHS: Eseis, shmera, milhsate me ton k. Stratoylh;

KAKALHS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn protash Merkel, gia thn anejelegkth drash enstolwn mystikwn praktorwn kai astynomikwn metajy twn kratwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, xwris orismenes fores na einai enhmerwmenes kai oi eqnikes Arxes.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw apo poy exete aytes tis plhrofories. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, otan kai efoson erqoyn protaseis pros syzhthsh sta eyrwpaika organa, qa topoqethqei ypeyqyna.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean protiqetai h kybernhsh na qesei sth diaqesh jenwn yphresiwn th bash dedomenwn, h opoia dhmioyrgeitai me ta kainoyrgia diabathria.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia.

KYRITSHS: Den to apokleiete, dhladh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia. O,ti anagrafetai ston Typo den antapokrinetai, kat` anagkh, sthn pragmatikothta.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayrio to KYSEA qa proxwrhsei se antikatastash ths hgesias ths Polemikhs Aeroporias; Yparxei tetoio qema;

ANTWNAROS: Otan oloklhrwqei h synedriash toy KYSEA, qa enhmerwqeite gia to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs.

KAKALHS: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti kai h Sygklhtos toy Polytexneioy apofasise na mhn allajei h nomoqesia gia to asylo;

ANTWNAROS: Mia Sygklhtos den allazei th nomoqesia. Profanws, ennoeite na mhn symfwnhsei gia thn allagh.

KAKALHS: Th qesh poy ejefrase.

ANTWNAROS: H topoqethsh ths kybernhshs gia to qema toy asyloy --gia to opoio rwthqhkame kai o k. Roysopoylos kai egw, polles fores thn perasmenh ebdomada-- einai safhs. Exei ginei mia ektenhs syzhthsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema, h opoia krathse panw apo ena xrono. H shmerinh kybernhsh, me th stash ths kai sto qema toy asyloy, exei apodeijei gia mia akomh fora, me tropo poy den epidexetai kamia apolytws amfisbhthsh, oti sebetai kai to Syntagma kai toys nomoys. Otan eimaste etoimoi --kai fantazomai oti den qa perasei polys kairos na sas anakoinwsoyme pws akribws proteinei h kybernhsh na efarmozetai sto mellon to qema toy asyloy-- qa enhmerwqeite. Qa hqela, omws, gia mia akomh fora, na ypenqymisw --kai den qa koyrastw na to lew-- ti einai to asylo, giati egine to asylo; Gia na prostateyqei h diakinhsh twn idewn sta panepisthmia. Gia na exoyn anempodisth epafh metajy toys osoi foitoyn sta panepisthmia kai to akadhmaiko proswpiko poy didaskei ekei. Olh ayth, loipon, h diakinhsh twn sygxronwn idewn einai o logos gia ton opoio, prin apo polles dekaeties, efarmosthke se olo ton kosmo kai fysika kai sth xwra mas h ennoia toy asyloy. H ennoia toy ``panepisthmiakoy asyloy'' den shmainei oti prepei na parexetai skeph prostasias gia osoys exoyn thn aparadekth skech na organwsoyn mesa apo to xwro twn A.E.I. kapoies paranomes prajeis.

BLAXOS: Yparxei ena problhma me thn ejetastikh periodo twn foithtwn, h opoia fainetai oti den qa jekinhsei. Skefteste na kanete kati;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto qa prepei na to skeftoyn oloi osoi lambanoyn apofaseis ston akadhmaiko xwro, oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn dysarestes synepeies gia toys neoys anqrwpoys poy spoydazoyn sta panepisthmia.

KAKALHS: Giati den dieykrinizete, tote, pote qa katateqei o nomos-plaisio gia ta A.E.I.;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia.

KAKALHS: Den qa perasei polys kairos, eipate prin apo ligo.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Kanete laqos. Mhn moy apodidete pragmata ta opoia egw den eipa. Eipa oti gia to qema toy asyloy, qa plhroforhqeite tis topoqethseis ths kybernhshs prin perasei polys kairos. Gia to qema ths kataqeshs toy nomosxedioy exei topoqethqei, me apolyth safhneia, o Prwqypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: Pote;

ANTWNAROS: Exei pei oti qa katateqei --kai to eipa kai egw thn perasmenh ebdomada, ean den kanw laqos thn Pempth h thn Paraskeyh-- mesa sth diarkeia ths qhteias ayths ths Boylhs. Ayto einai apolytws safes. Den xwraei kamia amfisbhthsh.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sta prosfata epeisodia poy eidame kai sth Filellhnwn kai sto Polytexneio, oi koykoyloforoi htan ejw apo to asylo kai oi astynomikoi htan ekeinoi poy oligwroysan. Epishs, h keimenh nomoqesia problepei periptwseis opoy h astynomia mporei na mpei sta panepisthmia. Dedomenoy, loipon, oti to asylo den qespisthke --opws nomizw oti eipate-- alla kai kerdisqhke kai malista me agwnes. Giati toses meres...

ANTWNAROS: Diorqwnw th lejh, ean ayto sas enoxlei.

MELIGKWNHS: Giati toses meres to apajiwnete kai den frontizete aplws ...

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Egw eimai megalos yposthrikths toy asyloy. H kybernhsh yposthrizei me megalyterh qermh apo osh fantazontai orismenoi th diathrhsh toy asyloy. Gia na perifroyrhseis kai na diathrhseis ena qesmo, prepei na ton sebesai kiolas.

BLAXOS: Ara ti qa mas peite se liges meres;

ANTWNAROS: Otan eimaste etoimoi qa enhmerwqeite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ekeino poy den katalaba qa katateqei jexwrista o nomos gia to asylo kai jexwrista o nomos gia thn Paideia;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi...

PALAIOLOGOS: Mazi.

ANTWNAROS: Alla oi proqeseis ths kybernhshs gia to qema toy asyloy mporei na ginoyn --kai to epanalambanw-- endexetai gnwstes, se allo xroniko shmeio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, olo ayto to paketo mporei na apotelesei thn aformh gia ekloges. Giati qa einai ena paketo.

ANTWNAROS: Ean qelete na epimenete se ena qema to opoio den exei kanena antikeimeno, den mporw na sas afairesw se kamia periptwsh ayto to dikaiwma. Alla, h dikh mas topoqethsh gia to qema twn eklogwn einai jekaqarh.

SIDERHS: Qewreite oti oi antidraseis twn kaqhghtwn gia to asylo einai prosxhmatikes prokeimenoy na enantiwqoyn sto nomo-plaisio poy endexomenws xtypaei ton syntexniasmo toys, thn kratikodiaith logikh toys, thn dhmosioypallhlikh nootropia toys ;

ANTWNAROS: Den ekana egw kamia tetoia syndesh pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, thn opoia eseis epixeireite.

SIDERHS: Oxi, rwtaw ean nomizete oti xtypane to asylo gia na xtyphsoyn to nomo.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio endiaferei thn kybernhsh einai h anabaqmish ths dhmosias Paideias. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh katateinoyn oles oi prospaqeies ths shmerinhs kybernhshs.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw giati tis treis teleytaies ebdomades poy ejw apo ta ghpeda ginontai poly ektetamena epeisodia, h astynomia den exei katorqwsei na kanei kamia syllhch. Ftaiei to asylo kai gi' ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den gnwrizw poso ektenh einai ta epeisodia poy lete oti ginontai ejw apo ta ghpeda...

KYRITSHS: Oso ektenh htan kai ayta poy lete oti eginan sto Polytexneio.

ANTWNAROS: Deyteron, as mhn sygkrinoyme anomoia pragmata.

KYRITSHS: Ayto akribws qelw na pw. Toys xoyligkanoys dhladh den toys pianoyme giati einai anomoioi.

ANTWNAROS: Mhn sygkrinoyme anomoia pragmata. Den nomizw oti ebale kaneis fwtia se sygkekrimeno ariqmo astynomikwn ejw apo ghpeda. Mhn ypotimate loipon...

KYRITSHS: Mono otan bazei kaneis fwties se astynomikoys ginontai syllhceis;

ANTWNAROS: As mhn parafrazete, parakalw, osa lew. Ennooysa oti sygkrinete pragmata ta opoia den exoyn sxesh to ena me to allo.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na moy peite mia syllhch poy kanate gia xoyligkanismo apo ayta poy ginontai.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs gia na exete ola ta stoixeia. Den apeyqynqhkate, dystyxws thn perasmenh ebdomada --kai anaferomai ston k. Siderh-- qa moy epitrecete na sas pw, para tis synexeis moy parotrynseis sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Diaforetika qa eixate plhroforhqei toys ariqmoys twn syllhcewn poy exoyn ginei persi gia atoma ypopta gia symmetoxh se paromoies energeies kai sthn Aqhna kai sth Qessalonikh. Jepernoyn tis 140.

KYRITSHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh qa einai syntoma se qesh na mas pei thn protash ths gia to nomo-plaisio.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa ekeino to opoio eixe pei kai o k. Roysopoylos thn perasmenh ebdomada.

KYRITSHS: Se ayto symfwnoyme. Den stekomaste sth diatypwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, egw stekomai sth diatypwsh.

KYRITSHS: Qa deite apo thn erwthsh oti den to paw ekei. Ews tote ti ginetai; Synexizetai o dialogos; Kai ean nai me poioys;

ANTWNAROS: O dialogos synexizetai gia diasthma poy yperbainei ton ena xrono me osoys proserxontai se ayton. Kanenan den mporeis na anagkaseis na proselqei se dialogo.

KYRITSHS: Kaleite dhladh se dialogo twra;

ANTWNAROS: H dhmosia diaboyleysh brisketai se ejelijh. Kai polloi, gia prosxhmatikoys logoys, den proserxontai se aythn th syzhthsh. As mhn prospaqoyn na broyn, ekeinoi poy den symmetexoyn sth syzhthsh, diafores dikaiologies. Den einai peistikes oi dikaiologies toys. Oi Ellhnes polites jeroyn kai krinoyn.

BLAXOS: Pantws k. Ekproswpe, den einai mikro pragma ejw apo to ghpedo na ``plakwnontai'' oi proedroi omadwn. Den exei janaginei ayto. Epese jylo metajy proedrwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw parakoloyqhsei to qema.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, wstoso, menei h aporia. Sto parelqon, to 1991 htan epi kybernhsews Mhtsotakh, eixe ginei xrhsh twn dynatothtwn poy parexei h yparxoysa nomoqesia kai oi astynomikes dynameis eixan eiselqei sto Polytexneio prokeimenoy na kanoyn syllhceis kai na apomakrynoyn stoixeia poy tote dhmioyrgoysan epeisodia kai xrhsimopoioysan ws asylo to idio to Polytexneio. Ean einai toso megalo to problhma, oso to perigrafei h kybernhsh, giati den kanei xrhsh aytwn twn dynatothtwn gia na teleiwnoyme kai einai anagkh na allajei oloklhro to nomoqetiko plaisio toy asyloy; Jerete, ayto to erwthma den exei apanthqei...

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na anatrejete, loipon, stis ryqmiseis poy yparxoyn sto nomo gia na deite ti dynatothtes yparxoyn. Qa moy epitrecete na sas parakalesw otan erxeste kai moy kanete erwthseis na eiste kala proetoimasmenoi. Kai den anaferomai eidika se esas k. Gkoytzanh.

GALIATSATOS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia tis ekloges sth Serbia kai to apotelesma poy bghke xqes;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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