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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 12 Dekembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 45886908

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Dekembrioy 2006

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, sthn opoia monadiko qema syzhthshs htan zhthmata toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Kyriarxo qema htan oi ependyseis kai to apotelesma poy efere o ependytikos nomos ths kybernhshs, o opoios chfisthke to 2004. Qa sas dwsw poly syntoma merika stoixeia, giati analytikh enhmerwsh exoyn kanei ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai o Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs.

O ariqmos twn aithmatwn, me bash to nomo 3299/2004 gia ependyseis, efqase ta 4.236 kai ara gia ycos ependysewn peripoy 10.743.000 eyrw. H aitoymenh epixorhghsh htan 4.601.930.000 eyrw kai oi egkriqeises ependyseis apo gnwmodotikh epitroph toy anaptyjiakoy nomoy 3299, ews kai tis 8/12/2006 -ews prin apo liges hmeres dhladh- anerxontan ston ariqmo twn ypagwgwn 2.260 ependyseis poy enekriqhsan, to ycos toys 3.364.756.000 eyrw kai h egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 1.399.038.000 eyrw. Ej aytwn twn ependysewn, dhmioyrghqhkan 10.187 qeseis ergasias.

Ena akomh stoixeio qa sas dwsw -kai den qa sas koyrasw perissotero- gia toys tomeis drasthriothtas:

Ston prwtogenh tomea, o ariqmos twn ypagwgwn htan 127, to ycos twn ependysewn 141.262.000, h egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 54.052.000 kai oi qeseis ergasias 325.

Ston toyrismo, eixame 625 ependyseis, me ycos ependysewn 1.167.024.000 eyrw, egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 507.812.000 kai qeseis ergasias 3.143.

Sth metapoihsh, 1.347 ependyseis, ycos ependysewn 1.599.237.000, egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 672.371.000 kai qeseis ergasias 5.122.

Stis yphresies, 161 ependyseis, me ycos ependysewn 457.232.000, egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 164.802.000 kai qeseis ergasias 1.595.

Synolo: Ariqmos ypagwgwn 2.260 -opws sas eipa sthn arxh- ycos ependysewn 3.364.756.000, egkriqeisa epixorhghsh 1.399.038.000 kai qeseis ergasias 10.187. Stis qeseis ergasias, gia na mhn kanei kapoios thn prosqesh, epeidh yparxoyn kai dekadika stoixeia, mporei na sas bgoyn mia-dyo qeseis ligoteres apo aytes poy sas lew, alla einai ta dekadika stoixeia poy pareleica na sas anaferw sthn anagnwsh. Einai pantws enas katalogos ton opoio mporeite na exete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

RABANOS: Prin apo ligh wra, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, meta th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE k. Giwrgos Soyflias, basikos prwtergaths ths syntajhs toy proeklogikoy programmatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, ejefrase th diafwnia toy gia thn tropologia me ton OTE. Qa hqela to sxolio sas, parakalw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw plhroforia oti o k. Soyflias ejefrase diafwnia. Gia ton OTE, moy dinete thn aformh na pw merika pragmata, hdh xqes eipame kapoia: Efarmozetai, opws sas eipa kai xqes, sto akeraio h programmatikh mas desmeysh. Sas diabazw apo to programma mas, thn anafora sth selida 31: Stoxos toy programmatos mas einai pososto ths symmetoxhs toy kratoys ston OTE na metabibastei se katallhlo xrono, wste h etaireia na leitoyrghsei sth nea apeleyqerwmenh agora me strathgikh symmaxia, alla kai to katallhlo manatzment, to opoio qa thn odhghsei se megalyterh anaptyjh twn drasthriothtwn ths.

Sto plaisio ayto, anazhteitai etairos gia strathgikh symmaxia, o opoios qa exei symmetoxh kai sto manatzment. H diadikasia ths apokratikopoihshs brisketai se lepto shmeio. Oi leptomereies gi` ayth th diadikasia exoyn hdh anakoinwqei dhmosiws apo tis 6 Septembrioy 2006, meta apo synedriash ths armodias epitrophs apokratikopoihsewn kai exoyn ginei apo tote safeis anakoinwseis gia to qema. Qa hqela na pw -anaferomenos kai se xqesines dhlwseis toy ekproswpoy toy PASOK- oti to 1993 to PASOK parelabe ton OTE kata 100% kratiko kai apo to alhstoy mnhmhs ekeino ``mia xrysh metoxh kai sto onoma toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy'', to 2004 paredwse ton OTE kata 62% idiwtiko. Oi apokratikopoihseis einai sth dikh mas politikh filosofia. Den eixame ferei antirrhseis sthn apokratikopoihsh thn opoia eixe kanei to PASOK. Eixame kapoioy eidoys epifylajeis gia ton tropo poy ginontan, alla se kaqe periptwsh, qelw na qymisw ta pragmata apo thn arxh, giati oloi exoyme mia mikrh istoria se ayton ton topo. Einai, loipon, to PASOK poy efere kai nomo gia thn idrysh ths Cosmote, me leitoyrgia kaqara idiwtikooikonomikh. Kai shmera gkriniazei ypokritika giati ayth th ryqmish epekteinei h Nea Dhmokratia sto kyrio swma toy OTE. Kai prosejte: Oxi gia oloys toys ergazomenoys, alla gia toys ergazomenoys ekeinoys oi opoioi arxisan na doyleyoyn ston OTE apo ton Ioylio toy 2005 kai meta. Dhladh, xwris na aifnidiasei kanenan, afoy oi ergazomenoi aytoi gnwrizan ek twn proterwn, prin piasoyn doyleia, to kaqestws ergasias sto opoio mpainoyn.

Qa hqela na qymisw oti to PASOK exei polles fores diaforetikes topoqethseis analoga me to an einai kybernhsh h antipoliteysh. Ayto einai poy menei ekqeto sth syneidhsh twn Ellhnwn politwn.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dedomenoy oti h sygkekrimenh tropologia gia thn ptwsh ths symmetoxhs toy dhmosioy ston OTE katw apo to 33%, exei hdh katateqei sth Boylh, yparxoyn periqwria, se periptwsh poy yparjoyn protaseis ypoyrgwn, h tropologia ayth na allajei diatypwsh me stoxo thn aposafhnish ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomiza oti to eixa aposafhnisei to qema. Qa sas pw pio praktika oti apo th stigmh poy to ellhniko dhmosio exei shmera 38% toy OTE, h symmaxia kratoys kai ependyth einai profanes oti qa exei to 34%.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh ayto to lete sth bash toy poios qa diaxeirizetai to manatzment, mporw na synagw apo ta legomena sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To lew gia na apodeijw oti den yparxei kamia diaforetikh qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias apo thn antipoliteysh sthn kybernhsh. To programma mas einai safes.

SPYRAKH: Wraia. Lete, loipon, oti h symmaxia kratoys-ependyth qa exei to 34%.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akribws.

SPYRAKH: Ayto shmainei oti anazhteite ependyth o opoios qa symmetasxei sto manatzment, mporw na synagw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa prohgoymenws oti sto programma mas anaferetai epishs me safhneia -giati diabasa kai to sygkekrimeno kommati, to sygkekrimeno arqro toy programmatos mas- h symmaxia strathgikoy ependyth kai bebaiws kai sto manatzment.

SPYRAKH: Ara, symfwna me thn kybernhsh, den xreiazetai kanenos eidoys aposafhnish gia thn tropologia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ean xreiazetai h den xreiazetai. Egw sas lew, poia einai h tropologia, ti akribws problepei. Gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei dhlwseis kai apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Nomizw, shmera to apogeyma, sth Boylh, o k. Alogoskoyfhs qa exei thn eykairia na dwsei perissoteres leptomereies apo oses mporw na sas dwsw egw, shmera edw.

SARANTAKOS: Afoy h katastash einai toso krystallinh oso thn anaferete, me to programma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai th sygkekrimenh tropologia, giati tote o k. Soyflias zhtaei ejhghseis oti prepei  eipe malista, meta th synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs- na doqoyn ejhghseis; Einai o k. Soyflias poy den exei plhrh eikona; Qa toy doqei h plhrhs eikona apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai giati to kanei ayto; Giati zhtaei ejhghseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eida na zhtaei ejhghseis o k. Soyflias kai eidika apo to programma, toy opoioy htan basikos syntelesths. Isws kapoio laqos exete.

SARANTAKOS: Eipe oti xreiazontai ejhghseis gia...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to programma;

SARANTAKOS: Oxi gia to programma, gia thn tropologia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas lew, loipon, egw oti apo th stigmh poy to kratos exei hdh 38%, einai profanes oti to 34% qa einai sto kratos kai sth strathgikh symmaxia, me idiwth ependyth.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dieykrinistika, epeidh einai ligo texnikoi oi oroi kai mperdeyomaste: Edw twra giati milame; Gia ekxwrhsh toy manatzment se strathgiko ependyth h gia strathgikh symmaxia toy kratoys me kapoion ependyth, poy ayth h strathgikh symmaxia qa exei to manatzment;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milame gia strathgikh symmaxia, alla kai to katallhlo manatzment opws anaferetai kai sto programma mas. Akribws ayta poy legame prin apo dyo xronia kai kapoioys mhnes, prin tis ekloges dhladh, akribws to idio pragma leme kai twra.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto omws shmainei oti den qa mpei kapoios ependyths o opoios qa parei synolika to manatzment, alla to dhmosio qa exei symmetoxh sto manatzment.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw, milame gia symmaxia. Strathgikh symmaxia metajy toy dhmosioy kai toy opoioy ependyth, toy opoioy symmaxoy.

KAKALHS: Aytos o oros ``strathgikh symmaxia'' metajy kratoys kai ependyth einai poly nefelwdhs kai poly diforoymenos. Qa prepei na jekaqarisete poios qa exei to panw xeri: To kratos h o idiwths ependyths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai kaqoloy diforoymenos. Sas eipa kai prohgoymenws tis apoceis ths kybernhshs. Eimai bebaios oti qa exete thn eykairia na parakoloyqhsete ton k. Alogoskoyfh, na akoysete kai oles tis alles erwthseis h ypoqeseis poy ginontai sto epipedo ths Boylhs kai na parete tis apanthseis. Oi apanthseis poy exw na dwsw einai safeis: Den allazei tipota ap' ayta ta opoia eipame gia to programma mas.

Epishs, qa moy epitrecete epeidh xqes eixame mia ``antiparaqesh'', epoikodomhtikh panta - kai lew epoikodomhtikh giati me wqhse na anazhthsw ti ginetai kai stis alles eyrwpaikes xwres, sxetika me to pososto kratikhs idiokthsias  na sas dwsw kapoia stoixeia poy exw mprosta moy kai proerxontai apo ton armodio organismo, apo ton OTE: H British Telecom sth Megalh Bretania exei 0% pososto kratikhs idiokthsias. H Telefonica sthn Ispania exei 0% pososto kratikhs idiokthsias. H Portugal Telecom sthn Portogalia exei ligotero apo 2% pososto kratikhs idiokthsias. H Telecom Austria sthn Aystria exei pososto 25,2% kratikhs idiokthsias. H Telecom Italia, sthn Italia exei pososto kratikhs idiokthsias 0%. Sthn France Telecom, sth Gallia, pososto exei to galliko dhmosio 32,5%. Sthn Deutsche Telecom, sth Germania exei 14,8% to germaniko dhmosio kai 16,9% germanikh kratikh trapeza. Kapoioy eidoys symmaxia, profanws, yparxei kai ekei. Sthn Swiss Com sthn Elbetia exei 58,4% to elbetiko dhmosio. H KPN sthn Ollandia exei 0% pososto kratikhs idiokthsias. Sas edwsa ennea paradeigmata gia ennea antistoixes xwres, opoy plhn tis Elbetias oles oi alles einai xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

KAKALHS: Wraia. Peste mas kai to dekato paradeigma twra. Poio qa einai to pososto toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mh biazeste. Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws kai isws den to prosejate, einai mia poly lepth diadikasia, h diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai. Den yparxei periptwsh na pw tipota perissotera apo ta osa eipa mexri twra.

KAKALHS: Mia deyterh erwthsh: To apospasma poy diabasate apo to proeklogiko programma ths Neas Dhmokratias kalyptei, pisteyete, th biaih anatroph twn ergasiakwn sxesewn ston OTE; Eixate pei dhladh stoys ergazomenoys toy OTE oti ``qa pate se elastikes ergasiakes sxeseis ergasias, katarghsh ths staqerhs doyleias'' k.l.p.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipame kati diaforetiko apo ayto to opoio leei to programma mas.

KAKALHS: Kanate meta. Meta, dia nomoy anatrecate ton kanonismo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws, exontas sto myalo sas thn erwthsh poy qa moy kanete, fainetai oti den dinete kamia shmasia stis apanthseis poy sas dinw. Eipa prohgoymenws oti oydeis ergazomenos aifnidiasthke dioti to ergasiako kaqestws - ayto to opoio leme twra - einai to kaqestws me to opoio gnwrizan oti qa ergastoyn osoi mphkan apo ton Ioylio toy 2005 kai meta.

KAKALHS: Meta tis ekloges.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, meta tis ekloges. Me sygxwreite: Den allaje se tipota to kaqestws twn ergazomenwn edw kai seira mhnwn. Tipota den allaje. Giati dhmioyrgeitai mia entypwsh oti allajan oi ergasiakes sxeseis ston OTE; Den allaje tipota stis ergasiakes sxeseis twn epi seiran etwn ergazomenwn. Eipame oti apo edw kai pera osoi mpainoyn ston OTE kai ergazontai, dhladh apo ton Ioylio toy 2005 kai meta, qa ergazontai me ayto to kaqestws. Jekaqaro, safes. Opoios dhladh empaine ston OTE apo ekeinh th xronikh stigmh kai meta hjere ek twn proterwn me poio kaqestws qa ergastei kai den aifnidiasthke kaqoloy. Ara loipon den mporei na kathgorhsei kaneis thn kybernhsh oti aifnidiase ton opoiodhpote, otan eixe frontisei na enhmerwsei. Einai san na peite oti aifnidiazontai apo edw kai pera oi ergazomenoi, efoson ergastoyn me symbash ergoy, otan sta dyo xronia gnwrizoyn oti den mporoyn na ananewsoyn amesws th symbash toys. Qa prepei na meinoyn treis mhnes ektos kai ean qa thn ananewsoyn jana gia alla dyo xronia majimoym. Einai jekaqares oi qeseis ths kybernhshs kai h nomoqesia ths einai jekaqarh. Kai ayto einai poy kanei th diafora: Oti den allazei en mia nykti. Qymizw - kai edw qa hqela na mas dwsei mia apanthsh o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK  to nomo ton opoio efere to PASOK gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia. Allaje mesa se mia stigmh ergasiakes sxeseis etwn. Meiwse misqoys kai allaje ergasiakes sxeseis etwn, oxi gia aytoys poy qa proslambanontoysan apo ekeinh th stigmh kai meta, opws entimws kaname emeis kai to eipame kai to kaname, alla gia osoys eixan hdh polla xronia poy ergazontoysan sthn OA.

GKOYTZANHS: Ena politiko erwthma: Menei mia aporia an to qelete. O OTE emfanizetai oti einai enas organismos poy exei kerdh. Exei kanei kai kapoies allages sto eswteriko toy kaqestws poy qa ton bohqhsoyn na leitoyrgei kalytera kai na synexizei na exei thn kerdoforia. Gia poio logo idiwtikopoieitai h pwleitai; Ayto einai ena politiko erwthma, an to qelete, to opoio nomizw den exei jekaqaristei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa kai xqes oti h kybernhsh proxwraei se mia seira energeiwn, oi opoies bohqoyn sto na apaleifqoyn agkylwseis toy parelqontos. Den egine en mia nykti o OTE kalyteros. Egine sigoyra kalyteros apo oti htan prin apo 2,5 xronia. Kai egine sigoyra kalyteros dioti yphrje mia seira apo prospaqeies  gnwrizete tis prospaqeies aytes  poy me dyskolia mporese h kybernhsh na ferei kai na kanei prajh ston OTE, gia na beltiwqei. Ean den ginontoysan aytes oi allages o OTE me maqhmatikh akribeia qa odhgeito sto na einai mia deyterh Olympiakh Aeroporia. Lypoymai poy to lew alla ayth qa htan me maqhmatikh akribeia h ejelijh toy OTE. Egine loipon mia seira apo prospaqeies  kai synexizontai aytes oi prospaqeies  prokeimenoy na mhn ftasei na katabaraqrwqei kai na meinoyn xiliades ergazomenoi stoys dromoys. Na mh ftasei dhladh na exoyme ena tetoio plhgma sthn eqnikh mas oikonomia, alla kai sthn koinwnikh zwh anqrwpwn poy ergazontai ekei. Eginan aytes oi kinhseis oi opoies jekinhsan edw kai 2,5 xronia, apodidoyn siga  siga kai proxwroyme sto epomeno bhma. To opoio epomeno bhma den einai se kamia periptwsh ayto to opoio kapoioi mhdenistika proballoyn ws dhqen ``jepoylhma''. Pame se mia strathgikh symmaxia me enan idiwth ependyth, bohqwntas ton OTE na exei thn antagwnistikh dynamikh politikh poy mporei na exei sto plaisio mias agoras poy anaptyssetai diarkws apo idiwtikes etaireies.

GKOYTZANHS: An moy epitrepete, hdh anaferqhke  nomizw  kai apo ton dhmosio dialogo, oti h dioikhsh toy OTE ekane ena ``kolpo'': Fortwse ston OTE to kostos apo thn eqeloysia ejodo poy einai ayjhmeno, ton emfanise etsi na exei zhmies kai me ayth th diadikasia perase kai h allagh toy kanonismoy ergasias me nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, enw diaforetika qa eprepe na katalhjei mono mesa apo syllogikes diapragmateyseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai kaqoloy etsi. Opoioi to lene einai san na agnooyn oti o OTE, opws kai alles dhmosies epixeirhseis antimetwpisan mia seira apo polla problhmata ta opoia ean den antimetwpizontan apo th shmerinh kybernhsh me ton tropo poy sas eipa, me maqhmatikh akribeia qa odhgoysan sthn apajiwsh toys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw sto qema toy OTE. Ekeino poy den katalaba einai gia poio logo telika o k. Soyflias ejefrase tis diafwnies toy, giati to eipe. Eipe oti h tropologia gia to qema toy OTE xreiazetai peraiterw dieykrinhseis kai ejhghseis. Kai den katalaba an oi diafwnies toy k. Soyflia aforoyn ayto kaqayto to periexomeno h apla to gegonos oti den toy koinopoihqhke egkairws to periexomeno ths tropologias. Anarwtiemai omws, pera apo ayto, o idios o k. Soyflias eixe milhsei tote kai epikaloymai tis dikes toy dhlwseis, otan paroysiaze to kybernhtiko programma ths Neas Dhmokratias stis 4 Febroyarioy toy 2004, jekaqarize o idios oti den milame kaqoloy gia qema strathgikoy ependyth alla gia qema strathgikhs synergasias. To teleytaio diasthma kai o k. Karamanlhs sthn prosfath omilia toy sto Ellhnoamerikaniko Epimelhthrio milhse gia anazhthsh strathgikoy ependyth. Anarwtiemai, yparxei kapoio qema allaghs se o,ti afora to kybernhtiko programma ths Neas Dhmokratias gia thn apokratikopoihsh toy OTE;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kamia allagh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote pros ti aytes oi hxhres diafwnies kai apostaseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy zhtate na kanw sxolia epi qematwn gia ta opoia topoqethqhka arxika kai eipa oti den qa pw tipota perissotero. Apo kei kai pera oi kriseis einai dikes sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nomizw oti oi xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Eyqymioy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete bhma sto kanali poy doyleyete. Sas blepw na bgainete sto ``paraqyraki''. Parakalw poly, oi kriseis mporei na ginontai sto xwro ths ergasias sas. Edw, eyxaristws na akoysw thn opoiadhpote apoch sas -to exw pei polles fores- alla den einai xwros gia analyseis h gia sxolia. Einai xwros gia erwthseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den eimai analyths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to qewrw ypotimhtiko na einai kapoios analyths.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw sto qema ayto ths anazhthshs strathgikoy etairoy, symmaxoy, milame gia ekxwrhsh toy management plhrh h merikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edwsa hdh apanthseis sta erwthmata kai malista sthn epanalambanomenh erwthsh poy moy kanete ki eseis twra. Eipa oti einai mia poly lepth diadikasia sthn opoia den qa ypeiselqw.

SARANTAKOS: Qymaste na exei ginei syzhthsh sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia to qema toy OTE kai an nai, exei ypopesei sthn antilhch sas kapoio melos ths na diafwnei h na ekfrazei enstaseis gia thn poreia peraiterw apokratikopoihshs toy OTE;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti exei ginei syzhthsh. Den qymamai na sas pw to xroniko diasthma poy egine. Apo kei kai pera, opws gnwrizete, sta ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, den lew pote tipota perissotero, apo tis epishmes anakoinwseis.

SARANTAKOS: Den qelw na moy peite ti syzhthqhke, an kapoios...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti exei syzhthqei isws prin h meta th synedriash ths Epitrophs Apokratikopoihsewn.

SARANTAKOS: Kai htan omofwnes oi apofaseis poy elhfqhsan apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph; Den yphrjan enstaseis h epifylajeis kapoiwn melwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qymamai kati tetoio.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na sas rwthsw kai pali an exete enhmerwqei gia to periexomeno twn dhlwsewn toy k. Soyflia ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei sto qema. Allh erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa paw se ena allo qema. ``Paraqyrato'' endexomenws, exei na kanei me thn ypoqesh toy k. Ahdonh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kyrie Palaiologe, an sas eqija na zhthsw syggnwmh dhmosiws. Den htan proswpikh h anafora sto ``paraqyro'', estw kai ypokoristika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den eqighn kaqoloy, oyte to qewrw proswpiko. Apla to lew epeidh einai sth dhmosiothta. Epeidh eixame mia ejelijh sto qema ths fqoras toy aytokinhtoy toy boyleyth toy PASOK k. Ahdonh, blepoyme diaforopoihseis ekaterwqen, dhladh apo thn pleyra toy o k. Ahdonhs qewrei ypokritikh th symperifora ths ELAS h opoia den elegje to aytokinhto toy. Kataggellei oti ceydetai h ELAS. Yparxei peraiterw sxolio gia olh ayth thn ypoqesh h opoia mallon einai ligo polyplokh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanena sxolio. Ap` o,ti jerw h Astynomia kanei kapoia ereyna kai qa anakoinwsei to porisma ths. Den exw na pw tipota.

LEONTITSH: Sto Monasthraki tis teleytaies hmeres entopizontai proswpika antikeimena toy prwhn Prwqypoyrgoy Andrea Papandreoy. Jepoylioyntai dhladh. Mhpws qa prepei to kratos na parembei kapoia stigmh; Giati prokeitai gia istorika keimhlia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ti eidoys antikeimena einai. Diabasa kapoio dhmosieyma shmera.

LEONTITSH: Proswpikhs xrhshs, kaqhmerinhs xrhshs...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ti antikeimena einai. Qa hqela na apeyqynqeite katarxas sto PASOK wste na sas pei o ekproswpos toy, o opoios einai piqanon na gnwrizei kalytera apo emena. Einai sigoyro oti qa gnwrizei kalytera apo emena. Apo kei kai pera, fantazomai oti an yparxoyn antikeimena ta opoia exoyn istoriko xarakthra kai shmantiko politiko periexomeno, kai to PASOK alla prwtistws, fysika kai to Ypoyrgeio Politismoy qa deijei thn antistoixh eyaisqhsia.

KAKALHS: Me th xqesinh apofash twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn stis Bryjelles, doqhke 3 xronia paratash gia thn efarmogh toy prwtokolloy, anti gia to 2006, to 2009 kai blepoyme. Den egine kamia anafora se kyrwseis se baros ths Toyrkias se periptwsh mh efarmoghs toy prwtokolloy. Epishs syndeqhke to Kypriako me th symmorfwsh ths Toyrkias sto prwtokollo. Aytoi htan oi treis stoxoi poy anefere prohgoymenws h k. Mpakogiannh, poy eixe h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai toys petyxe xqes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H politikh mas, opws eipe kai h k. Mpakogiannh, synocizetai sth frash ``plhrhs ekplhrwsh twn desmeysewn ths Toyrkias, plhrhs entajh''. H Ellada yposthrizei thn prooptikh mias pragmatika eyrwpaikhs Toyrkias. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth kinhqhke h xqesinh synanthsh twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn twn kratwn - melwn.

KAKALHS: Epeidh h Toyrkia exei hdh anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, exei parei pisw to casus belli kai tis diekdikhseis sto Aigaio, exei anagnwrisei plhrh dikaiwmata qrhskeytika kai dhmokratika sto eswteriko ths. Mhpws to paratrabate ligo me thn Toyrkia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa epanalabw gia mia akomh fora th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. H monh asfalhs odos gia omalh entajiakh poreia einai h plhrhs antapokrish kai prosarmogh sta eyrwpaika krithria kai proapaitoymena.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ean to qema toy OTE teqhke apo kapoion Ypoyrgo sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qymamai. Oxi.

Sas eyxaristw.

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