Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-11-14

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 14 Noembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 40870138

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 14 Noembrioy 2006

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio Tetarth 15 Noembrioy, stis 09.30, qa synanthqei me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, akoysame xqes th qesh sas gia to qema twn symbasioyxwn. Qelw, omws, na sas rwthsw kati eidiko. Yparxei mia symbasioyxos h opoia mazeyei skoypidia sto Dhmo Loytsas mazi me to syzygo ths. Exei 13 paidia, exei na plhrwqei dyo mhnes kai apolyetai. Einai dynaton mia oikogeneia me 13 paidia sthn Ellada anti na pairnei eyshmo na apolyetai; Malista, sas epishmainw, gia mia akomh fora, oti ayth h oikogeneia, dhladh h mana kai o pateras mazeyoyn skoypidia kai qeloyn na synexisoyn na mazeyoyn skoypidia. Qa kanei kati h kybernhsh; Einai Dikaiosynh ayto h analghsia;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw th sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Gia perissoteres erwthseis sto qema twn symbasioyxwn, parakalw na apeyqynqeite ston Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylo, o opoios qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy stis 13.30. O k. Paylopoylos qa apanthsei diejodika se opoies erwthseis exete.

BLAXOS: Einai qema ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw ston Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, ton k. Paylopoylo.

BLAXOS: Mhpws qelete na rwthsete ton Prwqypoyrgo, mhpws apanthsete diaforetika ayrio;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MPOTSARAKOS: Emmesws plhn safws, opws fainetai, oi dikastikoi arnoyntai na paraithqoyn apo ta dikaiwmata toys, etsi opws proekyce apo dikastikes apofaseis kai apo ekei kai pera den fainetai na yparxei kapoios allos dromos gia thn kybernhsh, wste na mhn kataballei ta xrhmata. Ti qa kanei, loipon, h kybernhsh; Me poia apofash qa dwsei ta dedikasmena stoys dikastikoys;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipe, xqes, o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Papalhgoyras, kaqws kai osa sas eipa egw sth xqesinh enhmerwsh. Oi ptyxes kai oi leptomereies ths sygkekrimenhs ypoqeshs kai ths apofashs sxetika me ayth thn ypoqesh, einai akomh antikeimeno endelexoys meleths. Otan yparxei kati, qa sas to anakoinwsw.

KAKALHS: Ean h kybernhsh katarghsei mesw ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos to Misqodikeio, oi ergazomenoi poy qa katafeygoyn gia tis adikies ths eisodhmatikhs politikhs, opws egine me to LAFKA, th diekdikhsh apo thn epistrofh toy LAFKA, opws eginan me ta oikogeneiaka epidomata, to epidoma paragwgikothtas k.t.l. Ayta akribws qelei na katarghsei h kybernhsh; Dhladh, to dikaiwma twn ergazomenwn na prosfeygoyn sth Dikaiosynh gia adikies eisodhmatikhs politikhs;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, h kybernhtikh pleiochfia, exei kanei sygkekrimenh protash, sthn opoia kai sas parapempw. H sygkekrimenh protash ths kybernhshs poy anaferetai, ean den kanw laqos, sto arqro 88 toy Syntagmatos, periexei mia enallaktikh protash, mia lysh. Proteinei thn idrysh Syntagmatikoy Dikasthrioy.

SPYRAKH: Yparxei kati neotero gia to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Agkyra; Yparxoyn diergasies poy deixnoyn oti mporei na pragmatopoihqei to 2007;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei tipote neotero sxetika me to qema poy me rwthsate.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes, mesw ths thleoptikhs ekpomphs toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy sto ALTER, egine gnwsto oti thn parelqoysa dekaetia diakinhqhke poly mayro xrhma ston politiko kosmo ths xwras. Malista, bghkan pros ta ejw stoixeia poy sxetizontai me plastografhseis timologiwn, ypertimologhseis kai ypotimologhseis apo thn pleyra toy PASOK. H kybernhsh se ayto to qema exei gnwsh kat` arxhn, epeidh ekproswpei ena sygkekrimeno komma, th Nea Dhmokratia, gia diakinhsh mayroy xrhmatos; Kai poia einai h qesh ths genikotera panw se ayto to qema;

ANTWNAROS: Edw kai merika xronia sto Syntagma kai toys nomoys perilambanontai ryqmiseis, oi opoies orizoyn ola ta sxetika me ta oikonomika twn kommatwn. Opws gnwrizete, yparxoyn syntetagmena organa ths Politeias poy einai epifortismena me ton elegxo efarmoghs aytwn twn ryqmisewn, toso gia ta kommata oso kai gia toys boyleytes.

BLAXOS: Exete enhmerwqei gia to ti eipe prin apo ligo o k. Papandreoy gia to qema twn symbasioyxwn;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema twn symbasioyxwn sas parapempw ston Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylo.

BLAXOS: Qa yparxei politikh -epeidh eiste kai stis kameres mprosta- apanthsh apo thn kybernhsh ston Giwrgo Papandreoy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw ston Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylo.

KAKALHS: O Proypologismos poy kataqetei shmera h kybernhsh problepei epipleon foroys 3,26 dis. eyrw. To idio poso problepotan kai stoys prohgoymenoys dyo proypologismoys poy kateqese h Nea Dhmokratia. Dhladh, milame se tria xronia poy katartizei proypologismoys h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias exoyn ayjhqei oi foroi kata 10 dis. eyrw, ejairwntas toys ektaktoys foroys. Ayto akribws ennooysate proeklogika otan legate oti qa mpei telos stis forologikes epidromes;

ANTWNAROS: Gia ta qemata toy Proypologismoy, o opoios -opws gnwrizete- qa egkriqei shmera to apogeyma apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai qa katateqei amesws meta, opws problepetai, sth Boylh, qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy o armodios Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs ston opoio kai parakalw na ypoballete ta sxetika erwthmata. To keimeno toy Proypologismoy ginetai gnwsto me th kataqesh toy sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

KAKALHS: Gia toys symbasioyxoys qa rwthsoyme ton k. Paylopoylo. Gia ton Proypologismo qa rwthsoyme ton k. Alogoskoyfh. Esas epiteloys gia ti qa sas rwthsoyme;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn panta polla qemata gia ta opoia qelete na me rwthsete.

BLAXOS: Xqes, eipate oti qa doqoyn ta xrhmata stoys symbasioyxoys, xwris kat` anagkh na yparxei nomoqetikh ryqmish. Poia einai h diadikasia, loipon, poy qa akoloyqhsei h kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na paroyn ta xrhmata toys;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipa xqes. Gia perissoteres leptomereies sas parapempw ston k. Paylopoylo.

BLAXOS: Rwtw th diadikasia gia ta xrhmata...

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa. Perissoteres leptomereies qa dwsei sth synenteyjh toy o k. Paylopoylos.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Proypologismos aytos poy kataqetei shmera sth Boylh h kybernhsh einai o teleytaios ayths ths kybernhshs; Kai prin speysete na moy peite oti ayto den prokyptei apo poyqena, sas lew oti prokyptei apo mia dhlwsh poy eixe kanei o k. Alogoskoyfhs pro hmerwn.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete akribws th dhlwsh poy ekane tote o k. Alogoskoyfhs, se sxesh me ton Proypologismo kai na thn apodwsete akribws. Den eixe pei ayto o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

XIWTHS: Nomizw oti qymamai arketa kala kai elege oti oloklhrwnei to ergo ths h kybernhsh me thn kataqesh toy Proypologismoy.

ANTWNAROS: Kai dieykrinise o k. Alogoskoyfhs, legontas oti ennooyse oloklhro to oikonomiko etos poy qa kalyptei o Proypologismos. Den eipe oti den qa kataqesei toy xronoy ton Noembrio h shmerinh kybernhsh Proypologismo. Alla o Proypologismos aytos qa anaferetai kata to megalytero xroniko diasthma se mia kybernhsh kai mia kybernhtikh periodo h opoia qa exei prokycei meta tis ekloges poy prokeitai na ginoyn stis arxes toy 2008.

XIWTHS: Den antilegw oti qa ektelestei o Proypologismos to 2007. Ayto poy eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs einai oti o Proypologismos poy kataqetei shmera sth Boylh einai o teleytaios ayths ths kybernhshs. Oti toy xronoy, endexomenws den qa katateqei Proypologismos me eyqynh ayths ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas ejhgw ti akribws eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

MAYRIDHS: O k. Gkioyl pote qa erqei sthn Aqhna;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Gkioyl, opws plhroforhqhka apo mia apanthsh poy edwse h k. Mpakogiannh erwtwmenh xqes sth diarkeia synenteyjhs Typoy poy edwse stis Bryjelles, prokeitai na erqei stis 7 Dekembrioy. Kai qa einai edw stis 7 kai 8 Dekembrioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw pali sto qema twn symbasioyxwn kai qa rwthsw to ejhs: Epeidh ginontai ekaterwqen protaseis, dhladh apo thn pleyra toy PASOK twra ypo morfh nomosxedioy h genikotera nomoqetikhs ryqmishs gia to qema ayto, giati den analambanei h kybernhsh thn prwtoboylia na kalesei to PASOK na synapofasisoyn gia ena zhthma gia to opoio exoyn eyqynes kai ta dyo kommata kai to PASOK kai h Nea Dhmokratia kai na doyn ti prepei telika na ginei me toys symbasioyxoys, giati einai koinwniko to zhthma. Den eipa apla politiko. Posoi xreiazontai na kalyptoyn pagies kai diarkeis anagkes kai gia toys ypoloipoys kai ta dyo kommata na analaboyn epiteloys thn eyqynh ...

ANTWNAROS: Ayto exei ryqmistei oristika me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs. Kai h eyqynh gia katastaseis oi opoies exoyn prokycei barynoyn prohgoymenes kybernhseis. As mhn prospaqei loipon o k. Papandreoy na metakylisei thn eyqynh twn kybernhsewn stis opoies o idios meteixe ws koryfaio stelexos, sth shmerinh kybernhsh.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe se o,ti afora toys symbasioyxoys -emmenw kai egw se ayto to qema- qa yparjoyn dyo eidwn politikes; Allh politikh gia toys symbasioyxoys poy apasxolhqhkan sto steno dhmosio tomea kai allh gia osoys apasxolhqhkan stoys dhmoys; Kai anaferomai sta dedoyleymena.

ANTWNAROS: Sxetika me ta dedoyleymena, topoqethqhka xqes. Einai safes ayto to opoio eipa. Den exw na prosqesw kati. Gia perissoteres leptomereies apeyqynqeite ston k. Paylopoylo.

KAKALHS: Ep' aytoy hqela na rwthsw. H kybernhsh apofasizei apo oti fainetai na mhn efarmosei thn apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy oson afora ta dedoyleymena profanws giati einai katafora adikh. Den einai ejisoy katafora adikh na mhn monimopoioyntai anqrwpoi oi opoioi kalyptoyn pagies kai diarkeis anagkes poy einai to deytero skelos ths apofashs toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. Isxyoyn ola osa eipa xqes.

MPOTSARAKOS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh exei ryqmisei to qema twn symbasioyxwn. Omws, yparxei ena eylogo erwthma: Sta 2,5 xronia ths Neas Dhmokratias synexizontai oi proslhceis symbasioyxwn, xwris akomh na exei prosdioristei poia qa einai h tyxh toys, poio qa einai to mellon toys kai otan malista yparxoyn apofaseis na mhn paroyn oyte ta dedoyleymena. Giati loipon h kybernhsh synexizei na proslambanei symbasioyxoys xwris na einai orato to ti qa ginei sto ergasiako toys mellon;

ANTWNAROS: Den toys proslambanei en pash periptwsei h kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, nomizw oti synantwntai ayth thn wra o k. Papalhgoyras me ton k. Alogoskoyfh gia to qema twn apozhmiwsewn twn dikastikwn symfwna me thn apofash toy Misqodikeioy. Einai dynaton dyo Ypoyrgoi na katarghsoyn mia syntagmatika nomimh diadikasia opws einai ayth toy Misqodokeioy poy apofasise tis ayjhseis twn dikastikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete na kanoyn dhlwseis oi dyo Ypoyrgoi. Katalhgete se symperasma to opoio einai ayqaireto kai diko sas.

BLAXOS: Ma xqes hdh o k. Papalhgoyras eipe oti qa prepei na analogistoyn oi dikastes oti den antexoyn na mh zhtoyn polla. Hdh o k. Alogoskoyfhs exei xarakthrisei ``ejwfrenikh'' thn apofash, ara yparxei ena klima enantion mias syntagmatika katoxyrwmenhs diadikasias h opoia apofasise nomimws tis ayjhseis twn dikastikwn. H kybernhsh den qa efarmosei to Syntagma sthn periptwsh ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Opws eipate pragmatopoieitai twra h synanthsh twn dyo Ypoyrgwn. Perimenete, loipon, meta thn oloklhrwsh ths synanthshs h opoia einai se ejelijh, na deite tis anakoinwseis tis opoies qa kanoyn.

BLAXOS: Ypociazomai oti einai ...

ANTWNAROS: As perimenete na deite ean oi ypocies sas qa bgoyn alhqines h oxi.

BLAXOS: Pantws h kybernhsh apo oti katalabainw egw einai sth logikh na dwsei ta xrhmata.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na perimenete tis dhlwseis twn dyo Ypoyrgwn.

MPOTSARAKOS: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh na apanthsei sto erwthma an me thn katarghsh toy Misqodikeioy katargoyntai kai ta dikaiwmata apo tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei apo to Misqodikeio;

ANTWNAROS: Ti ennoeite;

MPOTSARAKOS: Oi apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei apo to Misqodikeio sthn oysia katargoyntai apo thn katarghsh toy Misqodikeioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tis eidikes nomikes gnwseis, wste na apanthsw sto eidiko erwthma poy moy kanete.

BLAXOS: To Misqodikeio apo oti katalabainw k. Ekproswpe qa katarghqei to 2009 kai meta.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai eidikos gia na apanthsw. Prokeitai gia syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh gia thn opoia problepetai sygkekrimenh diadikasia. Einai gnwsto, to eipa prohgoymenws. Milhsa gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.

BLAXOS: Nai, alla exete pei omws oti ejetazete endelexws thn apofash toy Misqodikeioy gia na apofasisete ean qa dwsete ta xrhmata h oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto.

BLAXOS: Qa thn ejetazete mexri to 2009;

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto se kamia periptwsh. Eipa oti ejetazontai endelexws oles oi ptyxes ths ypoqeshs kai ths apofashs h opoia synaptetai pros ayth thn ypoqesh kai otan oloklhrwqei aytos o elegxos qa topoqethqei h kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: Apantwntas sto erwthma moy an qa dwsete ta xrhmata. Dhladh oi dikastikoi mexri pote qa perimenoyn gia na teleiwsei aytos o endelexhs elegxos;

ANTWNAROS: Otan oloklhrwqei aytos o elegxos qa topoqethqei h kybernhsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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