Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-26

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Aqhna, 26 Ioynioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sta Kyriakatika fylla kai malista apo dyo efhmerides megalhs kykloforias, grafetai oti epixeireitai politikh yponomeysh toy Proedroy Papadopoyloy apo politika proswpa sthn Ellada kai malista anaferontai kai onomata, ta opoia egw den exw to dikaiwma na anaferw edw, oi opoioi epiqymoyn -leei- thn apoxwrhsh toy Proedroy Papadopoyloy kai na mpei kapoio allo proswpo sth qesh toy, profanws arestos stoys Amerikanoys h oxi. Qa hqela mia apanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den protiqemai na sxoliasw aoristies kai fhmes.

GARGALAKOS: To ``PARON'' katonomazei to proswpo ayto poy epixeirei na yponomeysei politika ton Kyprio Proedro. Analogo dhmosieyma ``fwtografiko'' yparxei kai sthn ``KAQHMERINH''. Den prokeitai gia fhmes, prokeitai gia plhrofories dyo egkritwn efhmeridwn.

ANTWNAROS: Oyte kai plhrofories protiqemai na sxoliasw. Ekeino to opoio qelw na pw einai oti h synergasia kai h synennohsh, metajy twn kybernhsewn Elladas kai Kyproy, einai gnwsth kai dedomenh. Ayth h synergasia, h synennohsh kai h synexhs epikoinwnia metajy twn dyo kybernhsewn entassetai sta plaisia mias koinhs strathgikhs, toso se sxesh me ta eyrwpaika qemata, oso kai sto qema ths epilyshs toy Kypriakoy.

KORAH: H kybernhsh elabe gnwsh aytwn twn plhroforiwn, fhmwn en pash periptwsei;

ANTWNAROS: Oi en logw plhrofories anaferqhkan ston Typo kai den prokeitai na tis sxoliasw.

KORAH: Dhladh, melos ths kybernhshs den egine gnwsths aytwn twn problhmatismwn, en pash periptwsei; Apo to sygkekrimeno politeiako paragonta.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h kybernhsh plhroforhqhke aytes tis plhrofories apo ton Typo, opoy anegrafhsan.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Se liges hmeres o k. Karamanlhs exei kalesei epishmws na erqei sthn Aqhna o Proedros Papadopoylos mesa ston Ioylio. Qa einai, ypoqetw, ena apo ta zhtoymena ta opoia qa syzhthqoyn me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Etsi den einai; Kai qa doqoyn orismenes ejhghseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth thn aisqhsh.

BLAXOS: Sas endiaferei, kyrie Ekproswpe, na maqete thn phgh twn plhroforiwn; Dhladh, qelw na pw, an h phgh twn plhroforiwn@

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa -kai ayto exei epibebaiwqei epaneilhmmena allwste tis teleytaies ebdomades- yparxei mia stenh synennohsh, mia stenh synergasia metajy ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai ths kybernhshs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Sas ypenqymizw oti molis prin apo liges hmeres htan sthn Aqhna o neos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Lillhkas. Eginan anakoinwseis ston Typo meta tis synomilies poy eixe o k. Lillhkas me thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh. Liges hmeres prin apo ayth th synanthsh, eixe pragmatopoihqei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh kai toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Tassoy Papadopoyloy, sto periqwrio twn ergasiwn ths Synodoy Koryfhs. Epomenws, ekeino to opoio metraei gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh einai ayth h synexhs synennohsh, epikoinwnia kai antallagh apocewn.

BLAXOS: Pantws, kyrie Ekproswpe, me sygxwreite, ap` o,ti plhroforhqhka yparxei entonotath antidrash sth Leykwsia, ayth th stigmh, gia ta dhmosieymata ayta, gia tis fhmes, poy deixnei oti emmesa plhn safws o ekproswpos ths Kyproy to yioqetei.

ANTWNAROS: Egw eimai ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Topoqetoymai ws ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

MPOTSARAKOS: Yparxoyn omws dhlwseis toy Kyprioy omologoy sas poy sthn oysia yposthrizei oti yparxoyn politikoi kykloi sthn Ellada poy me tis qeseis toys kai me thn taktikh toys, mporoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn problhma stis sxeseis Aqhnas kai Leykwsias@

ANTWNAROS: Thn epishmh qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs thn ekfrazei o Prwqypoyrgos, thn ekfrazei h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai sto metro poy mas analogei o k. Roysopoylos kai egw.

KAKALHS: Toso h Oyasigkton oso kai oi Bryjelles kai h Germanikh Proedria sygkekrimena, symfwna me tis teleytaies plhrofories poy ftanoyn kai mesw twn praktoreiwn, twn epishmwn, einai oti askoyn pieseis sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh na mh dhmioyrghsei kanena problhma sthn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, ejaitias ths mh ekplhrwshs twn yposxesewn ths (den akoygetai) sto Kypriako. S` ayto to zhthma, h kybernhsh pws steketai; Dhladh, afenos yparxoyn aytes oi pieseis, epibebaiwnei tis pieseis kai deyteron, symfwnei me aytes;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw apo poy exete eseis aytes tis plhrofories, tis opoies molis anaferate. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw egw einai oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Politeia exei mia sygkekrimenh eqnikh strathgikh, oson afora stis sxeseis mas me th geitonikh xwra, thn Toyrkia kai ton eyrwpaiko ths prosanatolismo, thn eyrwpaikh ths prosarmogh, to dromo poy h idia exei epilejei na akoloyqhsei, wste na entaxqei sto mellon, ws plhres melos, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. H qesh ayth einai gnwsth, sas thn exoyme paroysiasei epaneilhmmenws kai tis teleytaies hmeres. H qesh ayth paramenei staqerh kai dedomenh.

KAKALHS: H qesh ayth einai se diaforetiko mhkos kymatos apo ayth ths kypriakhs kybernhshs gia diekdikhtikh poreia, na to pw etsi, mesa sto eyrwpaiko plaisio, oson afora ton eyrwpaiko prosanatolismo ths Toyrkias;

ANTWNAROS: Milhsa prohgoymenws gia koinh strathgikh. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eipate oti yparxei koinh politikh@

ANTWNAROS: Koinh strathgikh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Koinh strathgikh. Epishs, h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthrizei ton Proedro Papadopoylo. Edw einai to qema. Na to kleisoyme.

ANTWNAROS: Ekana mia dhlwsh, h opoia isxyei ws exei. Den exw na prosqesw kati ep` aytoy. H dhlwsh einai pentakaqarh kai den einai dektikh gia kamia apolytws amfisbhthsh.

KORAH: H kybernhsh katadikazei eyqews aytoy toy eidoys tis kinhseis, dhlwseis eis baros toy Proedroy Papadopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia tetoies asafeies, fhmes, plhrofories, opws qelete apokaleste tis. Einai jekaqaro ayto poy sas eipa.

SIDERHS: Qa mas apoxairethsei xronoys to ESY;

ANTWNAROS: Poio;

SIDERHS: To ASEP.

ANTWNAROS: Giati to lete ayto;

SIDERHS: Giati o k. Abramopoylos zhthse na ginoyn proslhceis kata parakamch toy.

ANTWNAROS: Einai gnwsto to poly megalo endiaferon poy epideiknyei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na antimetwpisei apotelesmatika to xronio problhma sxetika me thn elleich noshleytwn ston eyaisqhto xwro ths Ygeias. Mesa s` ayto to plaisio anaferqhke kai o ypoyrgos Ygeias k. Dhmhtrhs Abramopoylos, se diafores idees tis opoies exei, orismenes skeceis me stoxo na antimetwpistei ayth h xronobora diadikasia. Qa hqela na sas plhroforhsw oti o k. Abramopoylos, ayth th stigmh, dinei synenteyjh Typoy me aformh ena allo qema. Eimai bebaios oti erwtwmenos qa topoqethqei kai epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos.

SIDERHS: Na sas pw, oti einai gegonos pws einai xronoboro kai yparxei dysleitoyrgikothta, wstoso, anti na diorqwsete to ASEP kai na ginei pio organwmeno kai taxy qelete na to parakamcete.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw stis protaseis gia th Syntagmatikh Anaqewrhsh, tis opoies exei ypoballei h Nea Dhmokratia kai apo tis opoies den prokyptei se kanena shmeio oti yparxei tetoia proqesh san kai ayth poy molis anaferate.

BLAXOS: Otan htan sthn antipoliteysh o k. Karamanlhs, edwse megalo baros sto na katadeijei thn aqlia eikona sto xwro ths Ygeias. Xreiasthkan loipon dyomish xronia na eiste sthn kybernhsh gia na breqei enas ypoyrgos o opoios brhke mia meqodo kaq` ola nomimh gia na parakamcei to ASEP kai na ginoyn aytes oi proslhceis poy oloi oi syllogoi twn ergazomenwn prosmenoyn edw kai poly kairo. Kai giati kaqystereite na dwsete to o.k. ston k. Abramopoylo.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws den egine safes, ayto to opoio eipa. Yparxei mia problepomenh apo th nomoqesia xronobora diadikasia, mesw ths opoias mporei na ginoyn proslhceis. H diadikasia ayth ejakoloyqei na isxyei. O k. Abramopoylos, problhmatizomenos gia thn katastash kai thn kaqysterhsh h opoia parathreitai se ayth th diadikasia, ejefrase orismenes skeceis. Aytes oi skeceis xreiazontai asfalws syzhthsh, xreiazontai synainesh, xreiazontai mia makra diaboyleysh, prokeimenoy na oristikopoihqoyn kai na mporesoyn efarmozomenes na dwsoyn lyseis sto problhma.

BLAXOS: Xreiazontai kai xrhmata apo ton k. Alogoskoyfh. Qa dwsei entolh o k. Karamanlhs ston k. Alogoskoyfh na dwsei xrhmata ston k. Abramopoylo;

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh exei apodeijei oti, ekei opoy xreiasthke, egkriqhkan ta aparaithta posa, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn apotelesmatika problhmata poy yphrjan.

SARANTAKOS: Gi` ayto to qema, giati profanws isws na mhn to katalaba. Oi idees kai oi skeceis toy k. Abramopoyloy einai kai idees kai skeceis synolika ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Enas ypoyrgos ekfrazetai kai topoqeteitai sto xwro toy opoioy h politikh eyqynh toy exei anateqei.

IWANNOY: Ti apantate omws sto PASOK, poy leei oti oysiastika h protash toy k. Abramopoyloy einai omologia apotyxias. Kai oti dyomish xronia den mporese na proslabei to aparaithto noshleytiko proswpiko kai ayth th stigmh qelei na moirastei tis eyqynes poy exei mazi me thn antipoliteysh.

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh ekeino to opoio eyxetai kai elpizei einai na ginei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs -dioti se ayto anaferqhkate kai se ayto qa anaferqw kai egw- koinwnos problhmatwn poy anamfisbhthta yparxoyn sth xwra kai sthn koinwnia. Synepws ekeino to opoio perimenoyme apo thn antipoliteysh, oxi mono sto sygkekrimeno xwro alla kai se alloys, opws einai h Paideia, to Asfalistiko -anaferomai se dyo apo ayta, xarakthristika kai oxi apokleistika- einai na symprajei me idees, sygkekrimenes skeceis, sygkekrimenes protaseis kai oxi genikologes topoqethseis. Etsi prepei na lynontai ta problhmata ston topo.

KORAH: Dedomenoy oti o k. Abramopoylos thn protash poy ejefrase, den afora stena ton tomea Ygeias, alla afora mia genikoterh kybernhtikh epilogh. Eixe enhmerwsei ton Prwqypoyrgo; Dioti otan milame gia proslhceis ektos ASEP den milame an qa ginoyn mono sto xwro ths Ygeias. Mporei ayrio na ginoyn sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomias h opoydhpote alloy. Eixe loipon enhmerwsei ton Prwqypoyrgo o k. Abramopoylos;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws. Alla ej oswn gnwrizw, o k. Abramopoylos, sto sygkekrimeno qema sto opoio anaferotan, anaferotan se proslhceis ston tomea ths Ygeias. Ayto einai apolytws safes. Exw diabasei th synenteyjh. Sas ejhghsa oti ston kaqe ypoyrgo exei anateqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo h eyqynh ths diaxeirishs, ths ekponhshs sxediwn, ths diatypwshs idewn kai protasewn gia to xwro akribws toy opoioy thn eyqynh toy exei anaqesei o Prwqypoyrgos.

KORAH: Sas rwtw gia trith fora eyqews, yioqetei h kybernhsh h oxi tetoioy eidoys proslhceis;

ANTWNAROS: Apotelesmatikes protaseis, oi opoies qa dwsoyn lysh me tropo diafano, me tropo apotelesmatiko sto qema twn noshleytwn sthn Ygeia, asfalws, exoyn th sthrijh ths kybernhshs me tis proypoqeseis poy sas paroysiasa.

POYLIDOY: Synexeia sthn erwthsh. Epeidh oi elleiceis proswpikoy yparxoyn kai sthn Olympiakh kai sto didaktiko proswpiko twn sxoleiwn, fantazomai kai stoys dasopyrosbestes, qa yparjei mia epektash toy metroy aytoy, efoson exei tis apotelesmatikes proypoqeseis poy lete kai stoys alloys kladoys poy paroysiazoyn elleiceis;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, ola ta qemata sta opoia anaferqhkate den einai idia kai den einai kai sygkrisima. Deyteron, anaferqhka sto qema ths Ygeias kai menw mono s` ayto.

MPOTSARAKOS: Epeidh sthn prwth sas anafora milhsate gia idees, to erwthma einai o armodios ypoyrgos ston tomea ths ygeias, mila gia to xronio problhma twn proslhcewn kai dhmosiopoiei kapoies idees, prin na ginei kapoia syzhthsh sthn kybernhsh. Kai deyteron, oi idees aytes apoteloyn apotelesmatikes protaseis poy eipate oti sthrizei h kybernhsh, giati yparxei mia apostash apo thn prwth mexri th deyterh diatypwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den sas eipa ayto. Allwste, ola ayta krinontai sthn prajh.

MPOTSARAKOS: Afoy efarmostei h afoy syzhthqei h idea gia na ginei h protash;

ANTWNAROS: Oi idees syzhtoyntai. Katopin prepei na entaxqoyn se ena plaisio, opote qa kriqei ean mporoyn na efarmostoyn.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, persi, kata th megalh pyrkagia sth Rafhna, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei oti den qa meinei oyte ena stremma xwris na anadaswqei. Twra diabazoyme oti to 20% den qa anadaswqei. Isxyei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Poy to diabazete ayto;

SIDERHS: Stis efhmerides. To kataggellei o dhmarxos Rafhnas me apofaseis kai ariqmoys.

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

SARANTAKOS: Oi dhmotikes ekloges ston Peiraia einai, kata th gnwmh sas, mia dyskolh anametrhsh, ena ``ntermpi'' gia th Nea Dhmokratia;

ANTWNAROS: Ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den qa sxoliasw tis dhmotikes ekloges.

SARANTAKOS: Sas rwtw me thn ennoia oti ena koryfaio kybernhtiko stelexos, o k. Meimarakhs, exei emplakei se ayth th diadikasia, kai kata synepeia empleketai kai h kybernhsh dia toy k. Meimarakh.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den empleketai h kybernhsh. Opws gnwrizete, o k. Meimarakhs, o opoios mexri prosfata htan kai Grammateas toy kommatos, exei kai kommatikh idiothta.

SARANTAKOS: Einai kai ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs;

ANTWNAROS: Me rwthsate kati sygkekrimeno kai sas aphnthsa. Apeyqynqeite sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ston ekproswpo ths, prokeimenoy na sas apanthsei.

SARANTAKOS: Qa emplakoyn kai alloi ypoyrgoi, ypo ayth thn ennoia, stis dhmotikes ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Apeyqynqeite sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias gia na topoqethqei ep` aytoy.

KAKALHS: O neos kyklos eklogologias poy anoije apo merida toy Typoy einai erhmhn ths kybernhshs; H mhpws sto kybernhtiko epiteleio me aformh ta teleytaia gkalop exoyn trofodothqei kapoies skeceis gia prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes;

ANTWNAROS: Metaferete sthn kybernhsh thn eyqynh gia osa ginontai sta MME; En pash periptwsei, opws exw pei epaneilhmmena, h kybernhsh exei eklegei gia na efarmosei to programma ths se baqos tetraetias.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete tis proklhseis twn Tsamhdwn, oi opoioi zhtoyn kai ajiwnoyn malista anyparkta spitia kai perioysies sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs Politeias einai gnwsth: To qema twn perioysiwn poy qetoyn kapoioi, epikaloymenoi kapoia epixeirhmata, exei ryqmistei me seira nomwn toy ellhnikoy kratoys kai me apofaseis ths ellhnikhs dikaiosynhs. Gia thn ellhnikh Politeia qema ``Tsamoyrias'' den yparxei. Einai mh qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

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