Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-19

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Aqhna, 19 Ioynioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws skeftetai na antidrasei h ellhnikh kybernhsh stis proklhtikes dhlwseis Giakis sth Qrakh, oi opoies sthn oysia traymatizoyn tis prospaqeies proseggishs metajy twn dyo xwrwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh topoqethqhke hdh apo xqes, opws gnwrizete, me safh dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, h opoia kai isxyei sto akeraio.

BLAXOS: Ena sxolio gia to arqro Shmith, an blepete oti mesa apo tis grammes toy arqroy yparxei mia realistikh proseggish ths pragmatikothtas h twn kindynwn poy mporoyn na diamorfwqoyn kai an skeptetai o Prwqypoyrgos na exei synanthsh me ton k. Shmith gia na antallajoyn skeceis.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. H monh realistikh proseggish einai ayth poy efarmozetai, ws eqnikh strathgikh, sthn ejwterikh politikh edw kai polla xronia.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, TO PARON ths Kyriakhs apokalyce oti o dioikhths ths Eqnikhs k. Arapogloy ameibetai me yperogka posa, exei 375.000 eyrw mponoys to xrono kai oi apodoxes toy jepernoyn ta 607.000 eyrw. Den briskete, ws kybernhsh, yperogka ayta ta posa kai deyteron, skefteste na parembete opws sthn analogh periptwsh me ton k. Xristodoyloy parembhkate;

ANTWNAROS: Kanena sxolio oson afora sthn eswterikh leitoyrgia mias epixeirhshs poy dioikeitai me idiwtikooikonomika krithria.

GARGALAKOS: Kai gia ton k. Xristodoyloy omws isxyoyn ta idia. O,ti isxyei gia ta ELPE, isxyei kai gia thn Eqnikh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SARANTAKOS: Na epanelqw sto qema poy anekyce me to arqro toy prwhn Prwqypoyrgoy k. Shmith sto EQNOS ths Kyriakhs. O k. Shmiths eipe epishs oti egkataleifqhke to Elsinki epi kybernhsews Neas Dhmokratias. Qa hqela th qesh sas panw se ayto@

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei paroysiasei epaneilhmmenws th qesh ths. Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio gia ena arqro poy dhmosieythke se mia efhmerida, akomh kai an h efhmerida ayth einai ekeinh thn opoia eseis ekproswpeite. H eqnikh strathgikh ths xwras einai gnwsth, efarmozetai kai exei th sthrijh twn dyo megalwn kommatwn.

XIWTHS: Ki egw sto idio qema qelw na meinw, paroti sebomai oti den qelete na kanete kanena sxolio. Einai allo pragma omws to sxolio kai allo to an yioqeteite h oxi tis apoceis toy. Dhladh, o k. Shmiths proteinei, gia paradeigma, epilektikh epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn. Me ayto h kybernhsh, symfwnei h den symfwnei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h eqnikh strathgikh se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs einai kalws gnwsth se oloys.

XIWTHS: Ara, apodokimazete tis apoceis toy.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti den exw na kanw sxolio epi apocewn oi opoies dhmosieyontai se ena arqro.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Almoynia sto radiofwno toy SKAI ekfrazei thn ektimhsh oti dyskola to elleimma toy proypologismoy qa ypoxwrhsei konta sto 3%. Parallhla, tonise oti h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph den qa dexqei metra proswrinoy xarakthra gia th meiwsh toy elleimmatos, kaqws qa proteinei metra diarqrwtikoy. Poia metra eseis proetoimazete diarqrwtikoy xarakthra;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme pei oti mexri to telos toy xronoy, symfwna me toys stoxoys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, to elleimma qa exei pesei katw apo to 3% sto 2,6%. Ayto ejakoloyqei na isxyei. Oi ektimhseis ths Epitrophs kai allwn dieqnwn organismwn merikes fores, opws gnwrizete, to exoyme pei allwste, einai aysthroteres. H mexri twra diadromh poy exei dianyqei, ta sygkekrimena apotelesmata ta opoia exoyn paraxqei apo thn politikh poy exei efarmostei, apodeiknyoyn oti oi probleceis poy ekane h shmerinh ellhnikh kybernhsh htan kai asfaleis kai antapokriqhkan sthn pragmatikothta.

SIDERHS: Qelete na peite oti o k. Almoynia diakatexetai apo taseis apaisiodojias;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai diko sas sxolio. Egw den eipa tipota tetoio.

KAKALHS: Ayto to neo sxedio ths enwmenhs eyrwpaikhs Kyproy to opoio anefere h k. Mpakogiannh se kyriakatikh synenteyjh ths, to eixe ekponhsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh erhmhn ths kypriakhs, giati o k. Lillhkas dhlwse oti h kypriakh kybernhsh den exei enhmerwqei gia thn etoimasia opoiodhpote sxedioy oson afora to Kypriako eite apo ton OHE eite apo opoiadhpote allh xwra.

ANTWNAROS: Qelete parakalw na diatypwsete mia erwthsh;

KAKALHS: Lew an ayto to neo sxedio gia to opoio kanei logo h k. Mpakogiannh gia enwmenh eyrwpaikh Kypro, h ellhnikh kybernhsh to etoimazei erhmhn ths kypriakhs kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: H Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh den anaferqhke se yparjh neoy sxedioy oyte eipe oti epikeitai h ypobolh neoy sxedioy. Epanalambanontas osa exoyn eipwqei polles fores, allwste, sto prosfato parelqon, milhse gia thn anagkh na yparjei ena neo sxedio sto mellon poy qa dinei exeggya epityxias kai stoxo qa exei to aytonohto. Mia enwmenh eyrwpaikh Kypro.

KAKALHS: Thn anagkh den thn exei ypoch ths h kypriakh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Ma, opoion rwthsete, ean yparxei neo sxedio, qa sas pei oti den yparxei. Ayto sas lew kai egw.

SIDERHS: To gegonos oti den yposthrijate to sxedio Anan, enw twra prokrinete thn anagkaiothta enos neoy sxedioy, exei na kanei me thn allagh twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Apo thn arxh sas exoyme pei oti to ena neo sxedio, otan yparjei, qa prepei na einai kala proetoimasmeno, wste na ejasfalisei thn epiteyjh toy stoxoy poy molis sas anefera.

BLAXOS: Kata thn kybernhsh, eimaste kontytera sthn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias sthn E.E. h sth diamorfwsh enos eidikoy oikonomikoy plaisioy ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia;

ANTWNAROS: H Toyrkia ej oswn gnwrizw, aposkopei sthn plhrh entajh ths ws plhres melos sthn E.E.. Prokeimenoy na petyxei ayto to opoio qelei, thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh kai thn eyrwpaikh prosarmogh, prepei na ekplhrwsei sygkekrimenes proypoqeseis. Kai ayto einai kai to zhtoymeno.

BLAXOS: Egw den sas rwthsa gia thn Toyrkia, sas rwthsa san ekproswpo kybernhshs poy anhkei sthn E.E.. Qelw loipon na maqw, an to klima sthn E.E. to opoio prepei na exete kai eseis san kybernhsh poy anhkete se aythn, einai kontytera se ayth th sxesh h sthn entajiakh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia tetoia ektimhsh. H Eyrwph exei dexqei thn Toyrkia ws ypochfia xwra. H Toyrkia ena pragma epidiwkei. Na ginei plhres melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Ayth thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh kai thn eyrwpaikh prosarmogh, h ellhnikh kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, me tis proypoqeseis oi opoies einai gnwstes, th sthrizei.

BLAXOS: To rwtaw ayto kyrie Ekproswpe, giati analoga me thn ektimhsh thn opoia qa eixate gi` ayth thn prooptikh, qa eprepe na einai xaragmenh kai h ejwterikh politikh ths xwras.

ANTWNAROS: H eqnikh strathgikh ths ejwterikhs politikhs ths xwras einai gnwsth.

BLAXOS: Basismenh se poio endexomeno;

ANTWNAROS: S` ayto poy molis sas paroysiasa.

BLAXOS: Sthn entajh h sthn eidikh sxesh;

ANTWNAROS: Einai safh osa eipa.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe o k. Papandreoy, amesws meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ejefrase thn anhsyxia toy gia thn poreia twn eqnikwn qematwn. Eipe oti h Toyrkia ycwnei toys tonoys kai proeblece oti qa ayjhqoyn oi entaseis ean den yparjei mia nea strathgikh. Symmerizetai thn anhsyxia toy k. Papandreoy h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws tis teleytaies hmeres oti h eqnikh strathgikh ths ejwterikhs politikhs ths xwras einai dedomenh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Prin apo liges hmeres, stis Bryjelles, oi ``25'' phran qa elega, poly dysmeneis qeseis kata ths Toyrkias. Alla oi prosfates dhlwseis Erntogan dhmioyrgoyn nea dedomena. Mhpws odhgoymeqa pleon se mia diafora Toyrkias kai Eyrwphs kai pleon bgainei ejw toso to Kypriako oso kai h Ellada;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Eyrwpaioi hgetes, metajy twn opoiwn kai o Prwqypoyrgos ths Elladas, eipan to aytonohto. Oti h Toyrkia exei sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis tis opoies prepei na ekplhrwsei sto akeraio, prokeimenoy na epityxei to stoxo ton opoio h idia exei qesei ws xwra gia ton eayto ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ean den tis ekplhrwsei, poy odhgoymeqa;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na apanthsw se ypoqetika erwthmata.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Erwthmata, ta opoia tiqentai kaqhmerinws kai den einai ypoqetika.

ANTWNAROS: H diadromh ths Toyrkias pros thn eyrwpaikh prosarmogh den krinetai apo th mia mera sthn allh. Einai mia diadromh h opoia exei stadia kata ta opoia, h Toyrkia synexws, qa krinetai.

MANH: H k. Mpakogiannh se synenteyjh ths sthn kyriakatikh ``ELEYQEROTYPIA'' htan safhs legontas oti to sxedio Anan exei perasei sthn istoria, xarakthristika, oti yparxei anagkh, opws eipate kai eseis, enos neoy sxedioy kai oti tis texnikes leptomereies qa tis doyn oi dyo pleyres. Htan mia sygkrothmenh protash. H erwthsh einai an ayth thn anagkh thn exei syzhthsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh me thn kypriakh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti osa eipe h k. Mpakogiannh exoyn eipwqei sto parelqon kat` epanalhch apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Parakalw loipon na anatrejete kai na deite oti den einai kati kainoyrgio.

MANH: O k. Tragakhs, o antiproedros ths Boylhs, afhse shmera anoikto to endexomeno paratashs ths Synodoy, perimenontas kapoia nea stoixeia gia ta ejoplistika programmata epi PASOK apo logariasmoys apo thn Elbetia na anoijoyn. Ep` aytoy yparxei sygkekrimenh qesh.

ANTWNAROS: Exei topoqethqei thn perasmenh ebdomada, stis 13 Ioynioy o k. Roysopoylos ep` aytoy.

MANH: Ean apo tote mexri twra exete kapoia enhmerwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei ayto poy sas exoyme pei: ``Se kaqe periptwsh, h kybernhsh qa kanei o,ti xreiazetai, wste na diasfalistei oti den qa paragrafoyn tyxon adikhmata''. Ayth h dhlwsh egine thn perasmenh ebdomada, stis 13 Ioynioy kai isxyei sto akeraio.

SIDERHS: Nai, alla ti shmainei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhke o k. Roysopoylos, ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, molonoti den hmoyn proswpika parwn se ekeinh thn enhmerwsh, nomizw apo ton k. Xiwth, sxetika me thn paratash twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias. Apanthse o k. Roysopoylos, pali epi lejei, oti ``h kybernhsh meleta ola ta endexomena kai ayto to opoio lete''. Den exw na prosqesw tipote ep` aytoy.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Meimarakhs se synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida Figaro, eipe oti h Ellada qa diaqesei gia ta ejoplistika programmata peripoy 12 dis. eyrw. Pame, dhladh, se ayjhsh; Qa dapanhsoyme perissotera xrhmata anti na meiwsoyme ta xrhmata poy dinoyme gia ta ejoplistika;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Meimarakhs, milwntas me ena dhmosiografo mh ellhnikhs, jenhs efhmeridas, anefere stoixeia, ta opoia stoys synadelfoys sas poy kalyptoyn to eidiko reportaz, einai gnwsta. Den anefere kati kainoyrgio. Prokeitai gia ena plafon poy einai gnwsto edw kai kairo.

XIWTHS: Gnwrizete ean h kybernhsh programmatizei, opws anaferoyn shmera oi efhmerides, synedriash toy KYSEA entos toy Ioylioy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Otan exw kati, qa sas enhmerwsw.

XIWTHS: Exei plhroforhsh h ellhnikh kybernhsh, ean epikeitai episkech toy Amerikanoy Proedroy Mpoys sthn Aqhna ton Ioylio;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tetoia plhroforhsh. Eyxaristws na enhmerwqw kai qa sas pw. Ennoeite fysika ton nyn Proedro.

XIWTHS: Nai.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela na moy peite toys logoys gia toys opoioys o k. Karamanlhs episkefqhke thn ekdhlwsh mnhmhs gia ton Andrea Papandreoy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw na diabasete th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia einai krystallinh.

SARANTAKOS: Ayto shmainei oti se polla apo ta qemata poy diaxeiristhke epi prwqypoyrgias toy o Andreas Papandreoy, h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, analyontas ta gegonota ekeinhs ths periodoy, einai symfwnh;

ANTWNAROS: Otan o Kwstas Karamanlhs htan arxhgos ths antipoliteyshs eixe pei oti eklegomenos qa erqei na enwsei oloys toys Ellhnes. Ayto to kanei twra prajh.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxei qema allagwn se ayto to prosxedio, to opoio qa dwsei sth dhmosiothta h k. Giannakoy, ean den apatwmai, thn Pempth;

ANTWNAROS: To prosxedio den exei doqei sth dhmosiothta. Synepws, qa perimenete na deite, otan doqei sth dhmosiothta, ti periexei. Den mporei na ginetai logos gia allages se kati poy den yparxei.

MANH: Isxyei h kybernhtikh desmeysh oti to nomosxedio gia thn Paideia qa katateqei ton Oktwbrio, dedomenoy oti yparxei orato endexomeno na mhn einai anoikth h Olomeleia ths Boylhs;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, to nomosxedio qa doqei entos ths ebdomadas se dhmosia diaboyleysh, opws exei hdh anakoinwqei. Perissotera, qa plhroforhqeite entos ths ebdomadas apo to ypoyrgeio Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn. Deyteron, otan oloklhrwqei h dhmosia diaboyleysh, qa katateqei pros chfish sth Boylh.

MANH: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada eixate pei Oktwbrio h Septembrio.

ANTWNAROS: Den eixa pei oyte Oktwbrio, oyte Septembrio. Kanete laqos. Den eixa qesei xroniko orio. Antiqetws, eixame pei o k. Roysopoylos kai egw oti o dialogos qa diarkesei oso xreiastei.

BLAXOS: Eixate pei gia Olomeleia.

ANTWNAROS: Eixame pei oti to nomosxedio qa katateqei sthn Olomeleia, afoy oloklhrwqei h dhmosia diaboyleysh.

BLAXOS: Ena sxolio gia thn eikona poy yparxei sta aerodromia me thn O.A. An telika ajizei se ayto to lao kai stoys episkeptes poy erxontai sth xwra ayth, ayth h eikona.

ANTWNAROS: Ti akribws ennoeite;

BLAXOS: Edw kai dyo hmeres den mporei kaneis na metakinhqei h na einai sigoyros oti qa epistrecei sto spiti toy ean xrhsimopoihsei thn O.A.

ANTWNAROS: Symfwna me thn enhmerwsh poy exw apo to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, h dioikhsh twn Olympiakwn Aerogrammwn brisketai se synexh dialogo me toys ekproswpoys twn ergazomenwn, prokeimenoy na kalyfqoyn oi opoies anagkes prokyptoyn kata th qerinh periodo aixmhs. Fysika oloi elpizoyn oti aytos o dialogos qa apobei karpoforos se poly syntomo xrono. Symfwna panta me thn enhmerwsh poy exw apo to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, paroysiasthkan ontws to sabbatokyriako, thn teleytaia stigmh, polla kena, oson afora sth stelexwsh twn pthsewn. Symfwna me thn idia enhmerwsh poy exw, prowqeitai h epoxikh proslhch ekato frontistwn.

BLAXOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres, logw kinhshs, yparxei mpotiliarisma sthn Attikh odo. H kybernhsh skeftetai na epekteinei to diktyo ths Attikhs odoy, opws exei proteinei h etaireia, prokeimenoy na yparjei jemplokarisma apo thn megalh kinhsh se wres aixmhs;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio PEXWDE.

XIWTHS: Akoysa ayta poy mas eipate gia thn O.A. Alla, qewreite oti einai enas swstos programmatismos gia mia antagwnistikh etaireia, poy leitoyrgei se eleyqero antagwnismo; Ennow, twra na apofasizei gia to an qa proslabei epoxiko proswpiko h twra na diapistwnei oti yparxoyn kena;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai, bebaiws, na krinw egw to ``management'' mias etaireias. Sas pareqesa osa stoixeia exw apo to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn. Gia perissoteres leptomereies, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio.

XIWTHS: To lew giati o eqnikos aerometaforeas leitoyrgei me ejoda toy dhmosioy, dhladh me ejoda twn forologoymenwn politwn. Exw thn entypwsh oti kai h kybernhsh dikaioytai na krinei th leitoyrgia toy akoma, mia leitoyrgia h opoia toylaxiston to sabbatokyriako, ti na pw, ejorgise osoys tajideyan.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto to qema, to eipa.

MANH: H idiwtikh ellhnikh aeroporikh etaireia h ``Aegean'' prosefyge sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio kata ths O.A., stis 9 Ioynioy, prwth kai monh mexri stigmhs. Den exei prosfygei allh antagwnistria aeroporikh etaireia. Ena sxolio apo thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw sxolio gia ta dikaiwmata, ta opoia parexei o nomos stis etaireies kai twn opoiwn profanws -opws moy lete- ekane xrhsh mia sygkekrimenh etaireia.

IWANNOY: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh gia thn O.A. Se ayto poy eipate: Qewreite oti me ayth thn proslhch twn 100 frontistwn, ean den karpoforhsoyn oi synennohseis metajy toys, qa lyqei to problhma;

ANTWNAROS: Kati tetoio afora sthn eswterikh leitoyrgia ths etaireias. Egw sas pareqesa ta stoixeia poy eixa apo to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn.

IWANNOY: Qa qelame ean ginetai na sxoliasete h mallon na apanthsete ston k. Papandreoy, epishs se ayto poy sas eipa prin, poy kathgorhse thn kybernhsh gia atolmia kai gia politikh ths mh politikhs sta ejwterika qemata.

ANTWNAROS: H ejwterikh politikh poy askei h shmerinh kybernhsh kai synepeia exei kai apotelesmatikothta. Ayto, allwste, fanhke jekaqara poly prosfata, molis thn perasmenh ebdomada, me th qesh thn opoia phran oi Eyrwpaioi hgetes apenanti sthn Toyrkia kalwntas thn na kanei akribws ayto to opoio zhtame ki emeis: Na exei sxeseis kalhs geitonias me emas, me oles tis geitonikes xwres, na efarmosei ola osa exei analabei ws desmeyseis, na symperiferqei ws mia xwra h opoia qelei pragmatika thn eyrwpaikh ths prosarmogh.

SIDERHS: Synadei me th qesh toy k. Beremh na stoxopoiei thn k. Paparhga kai na leei ``o,ti kai na moy symbei qa eyqynetai ayth'' epeidh ypesth kapoia kritikh apo to KKE h apo ton SYNASPISMO;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den gnwrizw th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh kai den eimai bebaios oti thn apodidete@

SIDERHS: Yparxei stis efhmerides.

ANTWNAROS: To oti yparxei stis efhmerides, opws moy lete, den shmainei oti egw anagkastika th gnwrizw.

SIDERHS: To dhlwse se thleoptiko staqmo.

ANTWNAROS: Kai deyteron, sas exw pei oti o kaqenas exei thn eyqynh twn oswn leei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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