Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-13

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Aqhna, 13 Ioynioy 2006

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. O armodios ypoyrgos k. Tsitoyridhs exei hdh kanei dhlwseis ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy gia ta qemata poy eishghqhke sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Metajy aytwn enarmonizomaste se mia seira qematwn me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Idiaiterws shmantiko qewrei h kybernhsh to zhthma to opoio orizetai, me tis protaseis toy k. Tsitoyridh, se nomo gia qemata poy aforoyn th sejoyalikh parenoxlhsh sto xwro ths ergasias. Ena qema to opoio den eixe ryqmistei nomoqetika sthn Ellada. H nomoqetikh ryqmish toy k. Tsitoyridh erxetai na kleisei ayto to keno.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 10:30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Boylhs ths Iordanias.

@Stis 17:00 qa anaxwrhsei gia tis Bryjeles, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei stis ergasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GKOYTZANHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh htan enhmerwmenh gia thn proqesh ths Leykwsias na balei beto th Deytera;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Htan gnwstes oi kypriakes qeseis. Ejalloy, peran toy politikoy epipedoy kai oi monimes antiproswpeies, opws gnwrizete, Elladas kai Kyproy stis Bryjelles eixan, exoyn kai synexizoyn na exoyn stenh synergasia kai epikoinwnia.

GKOYTZANHS: Yphrje diafwnia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs se ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh pisteyei oti h synainesh, h opoia epiteyxqhke einai gia oloys mas mia qetikh ejelijh se mia ejairetika dyskolh kai synqeth diapragmateysh.

XIWTHS: Ayto poy lete oti htan gnwstes oi qeseis ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias den shmainei oti eixe zhthqei kai h symfwnh gnwmh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Kai ypoqetoyme oti se aytoy toy eidoys thn strathgikh yparxei mia taytish kai mia prosynennohsh ths strathgikhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme kanei epaneilhmmena dhlwseis se ayto. Den allazei tipota. Na prosqesw tote, efoson tiqetai etsi h erwthsh sas, oti kaq` olh th diarkeia ayths ths diapragmateyshs h Ellada sthrije kai synhgorhse yper twn dikaiologhmenwn kypriakwn anhsyxiwn, poy allwste basizontai se eyrwpaika keimena twn ``25'' poy syndiamorfwqhkan apo thn Ellada kai thn Kypro. Taytoxrona h Ellada ergasthke gia thn epiteyjh synaineshs, kati to opoio epeteyxqh.

POYLIDOY: Exoyme mplejei toys oroys kai etsi aposafhnistei perissotero. Epeidh to beto den einai qesh, einai taktikh, mhpws to erwthma einai an h Ellada gnwrize thn taktikh ayth poy eprokeito na efarmosei h Kypros;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoyw ayth th qesh me endiaferon, oti to beto den einai qesh, alla den qa topoqethqw epi ths qesews sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sthn oysia einai dieykrinistikh erwthsh: An h kybernhsh den apetrece telika h den epixeirhse na apotrecei ayth thn prospaqeia ths Leykwsias na balei beto kai an yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn k. Mpakogiannh to apogeyma ths Paraskeyhs gi` ayto to qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas exei hdh apanthqei kai den nomizw oti yparxei logos na bgoyn diaforetika symperasmata me bash ayta ta opoia dhlwsa kai exei dhlwsei kai h k. Mpakogiannh xqes stis Bryjeles. Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, fysika kaqe ypoyrgos epikoinwnei me ton Prwqypoyrgo se takta xronika diasthmata, giati otan xeirizetai qemata exei kai mia epikoinwnia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sthn oysia h erwthsh htan sxetikh kai h prwth me thn deyterh. Sthn oysia hqela na pw an o idios o Prwqypoyrgos apetrece tropon tina h den qelhse kaneis na apotrecei thn Kypro apo to na qesei beto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sthn oysia h apanthsh diaxwrise to prwto kai deytero erwthma sas kai o omilwn apanthse xwrista kai sto ena kai sto allo.

SARANTAKOS: Pote qa katateqei sth Boylh o nomos-plaisio toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei hdh kanei dhlwseis h k. Giannakoy. Na sas enhmerwsw gia na to gnwrizete, epeidh oi dhlwseis eginan ligh wra prin, oti to prosxedio nomoy gia th diasfalish ths poiothtas sta AEI, gia thn ajiologhsh, th dia bioy maqhsh, perilambanei mia seira apo probleceis tis opoies exei anagkh h Panepisthmiakh Koinothta kai zhtaei h ellhnikh koinwnia. Einai enas nomos to prosxedio toy opoioy qa doqei sth dhmosiothta thn epomenh ebdomada gia diaboyleysh. Qelw na pw symplhrwmatika oti h Nea Dhmokratia, xronia sthn antipoliteysh, dhlwne emfatika kai se oloys toys tonoys kati to opoio epanalambanei kai ws kybernhsh: Sta qemata Paideias qeloyme thn eyryterh dynath synainesh. Hdh, opws gnwrizete, o dialogos dihrkese peripoy ena xrono. Katalhjame se mia seira apo protaseis. Aytes oi protaseis ginontai prosxedio nomoy. To prosxedio dinetai sth dhmosiothta thn epomenh ebdomada. Qa akoloyqhsei mia nea diaboyleysh gia oso xrono xreiastei. Einai ena qema shmantiko, den einai ena qema to opoio ejantleitai se mia antiparaqesh metajy kommatwn mono. Einai ena qema to opoio qa prepei na lyqei katopin synennohsewn olwn twn endiaferomenwn merwn. Qa epityxoyme dhladh thn eyryterh dynath synainesh.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate gia oso xrono xreiastei, ara den yparxei xronodiagramma sygkekrimeno. Mporei na ginei se ena se dyo h se deka mhnes, endexomenws oso krathsei ayth h diaboyleysh. Gia na krathqei sth Boylh ennow to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa milhsw gia sygkekrimeno xrono me ryqmoys mhnwn, opws eipate eseis. Oso xrono xreiastei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela ws ypoyrgos Typoy na sxoliasete th xqesinh syllhch Kypriwn dhmosiografwn apo strateymata katoxhs, oi opoioi odhghqhkan se stratodikeio, dikasthkan kai katadikasthkan katapatwntas etsi, kata ton pleon kataforo, tropo ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi dhmosiografoi, apantaxoy toy kosmoy, antimetwpizoyn mia seira apo problhmata sthn askhsh toy leitoyrghmatos toys, ths ergasias toys. Emeis yposthrizame, yposthrizoyme kai qa yposthrizoyme to dikaiwma twn dhmosiografwn na kinoyntai eleyqera kai na ergazontai etsi wste oi Ellhnes polites, oi polites ths Kyproy, oloi oi polites toy kosmoy na einai kalytera enhmerwmenoi. Energeies kai praktikes oi opoies strefontai enantion ths eleyqerias toy Typoy, ap` opoy kai an aytes proerxontai, einai katadikastees.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Hqela na rwthsw ean ayto to nomosxedio qa paei to kalokairi sthn olomeleia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sthn Olomeleia.

KYRITSHS: Hqela na sas rwthsw afoy opws leei h kybernhsh qelei to dialogo me toys pantes sto qema ths paideias, giati oses fores phgan oi foithtes na doyn th k. Giannakoy antimetwpisan ta MAT;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den to leei aplws, to kanei kai prajh. O dialogos, edw kai ena xrono, einai anoiktos. Aplws qa prepei na dexqoyme oti gia na ginei dialogos, opws ginetai kai edw twra, yparxoyn kanones kai aytoi oi kanones se mia syntetagmenh politeia, ofeiletai na ginontai sebastoi apo oloys. H kybernhsh sto qema ths paideias -kai otan h Nea Dhmokratia htan sthn antipoliteysh kai twra poy einai kybernhsh- yposthrize kai yposthrizei thn eyryterh dynath synainesh.

KYRITSHS: Qelw to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th syllhch kai apelash apo tis HPA toy kaqhghth toy Polytexneioy Giannh Mhlioy melos ths Grammateias toy SYRIZA.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw thn entypwsh oti exei topoqethqei o ekproswpos toy YPEJ. Den exw na pw tipota perissotero ep` aytoy.

KAKALHS: Mexri thn perasmenh ebdomada h kybernhsh yposthrize oti o dialogos gia thn paideia eixe ginei kai den yphrxe tipota allo na syzhthqei. Jafnika dinete paratash sto dialogo oso xreiastei. Ti htan ayto poy ekane thn kybernhsh na anadiplwqei, htan oi foithtikes kinhtopoihseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kalo einai poy me rwtate gia na dieykrinistei. Exoyme dyo faseis: H prwth fash einai o dialogos, poy egine ejantlhtika metajy olwn twn kommatwn, metajy twn prytanikwn arxwn, metajy twn ekproswpwn twn organwsewn. Olwn ekeinwn poy endiaferontai, dioti emplekontai me ton alfa h bhta tropo, gia ta qemata ths paideias. Ayth h diadikasia dihrkese peripoy ena xrono. Fqasame sth dhmioyrgia enos prosxedioy nomoy. Ayto to prosxedio h kybernhsh protiqetai na to kataqesei se dhmosia diaboyleysh. Ayto, loipon, apotelei th deyterh fash, kai sto telos ayths ths fashs, qa pame sthn kataqesh toy sxedioy nomoy sth Boylh gia na ginei pleon nomos.

SIDERHS: Giati ayto mas to lete twra kai den to legate eikosi hmeres prin;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Twra me rwthsate.

SIDERHS: Giati den to eixate apofasisei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Twra me rwthsate kai sas apantw. Den nomizw na sas apanthsa diaforetika eikosi hmeres prin. Parakalw cajte ta praktika.

SIDERHS: Den mas to eixate anakoinwsei. Mia allh erwthsh: Toso kata th shmerinh toys synanthsh oi kyrioi Papandreoy kai Alabanos zhtane apo thn kybernhsh ws mh monimo melos toy Symboylioy Asfaleias na kinhqei wste na kleisei to Gkoyantanamo. Qa kanei kati h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw tis dhlwseis. Qa tis diabasw prosektika kai qa topoqethqei h kybernhsh.

XIWTHS: Thn perasmenh ebdomada o prwhn Proedros ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanhs ekane mia dhlwsh me thn opoia epeshmane ton kindyno paragrafhs kapoiwn adikhmatwn, poy tyxon diapraxqhkan apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Logw toy termatismoy ths Synodoy ths Olomeleias ths Boylhs, qelw na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh meleta pragmati metra, opws h paratash twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias, wste na mhn yparjei, na apokleistei o kindynos paragrafhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den htan mono dhlwsh toy k. Kaklamanh, ekane kai mia erwthsh sth Boylh ston Prwqypoyrgo, thn opoia, omws, apesyre telikws, den jerw gia poio logo.

SIDERHS: Thn apesyre epeidh den paroysiasthke o Prwqypoyrgos, alla qa thn janakataqesei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws exete kalyterh gnwsh toy qematos. Fantazomai oti qa gnwrizete tis proqeseis toy k. Kaklamanh. Opws sigoyra gnwrizei, ws diatelesas epi deka xronia Proedros ths Boylhs, oti o kanonismos ths Boylhs problepei pws ypoyrgos mporei na antikatasthsei ton Prwqypoyrgo, kati poy exei symbei polles fores. Kata synepeia, den gnwrizw kata poso ayto isxyei h ean symbainei kati allo eswterika sto PASOK. Se kaqe periptwsh, h kybernhsh qa kanei o,ti xreiazetai wste na diasfalistei oti den qa paragrafoyn tyxon adikhmata.

SIDERHS: Ep` aytoy, o Prwqypoyrgos sth Boylh, krinete oti einai eparkeis oi fores poy exei erqei sthn ``wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'' gia na apanthsei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi apanthseis poy dinontai sthn ``wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'' problepontai apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs, kai eite dinontai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, eite apo ypoyrgoys, poy ekproswpoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo. Opws gnwrizete, exoyn akoloyqhqei kai oi dyo meqodoi.

XIWTHS: Akoysa na lete oti h kybernhsh qa kanei o,ti xreiazetai prokeimenoy na diasfalisei th mh paragrafh. Ej oswn gnwrizw o monadikos tropos gia na diasfalistei h mh paragrafh einai h paratash twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias ths Boylhs. Gi ayto milame.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh meleta ola ta endexomena ka ayto to opoio lete.

GKOYTZANHS: Gia thn ``wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'' epeidh eipate oti yparxoyn dyo meqodoi, na apantoyn oi ypoyrgoi, ayth th gnwrizoyme. Exei apanthsei kai o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. Aplws h eseis den hsastan parwn h to jexasate.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai, giati den mas to qymizete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai aytos o rolos moy. Exete kanei kapoio laqos. Me rwtate na sas lew tis kybernhtikes qeseis. Den briskomai edw gia na kanw to arxeio kai na sas qymizw th doyleia sas. Mpeite sto arxeio ths Boylhs kai qa deite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia apofash toy efeteioy, estw kai kaqysterhmena, hrqe na dikaiwsei ton k. Mhtsotakh sth dikastikh diamaxh toy me ton k. Laliwth, apodexomeno oti o k. Laliwths en gnwsei toy elege ceydeis isxyrismoys kai proebaine se sykofantikes kathgories kata toy epitimoy. To sxolio ths kybernhshs, oxi toso gia to dikastiko meros, oso gia thn afath ikanopoihsh, kata th dikh moy ermhneia, toy k. Mhtsotakh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me idiaiterh xara h kybernhsh akoyei ayth thn ejelijh. Qelw na sas qymisw oti sto proswpo toy Kwnstantinoy Mhtsotakh eixe kathgorhqei syllhbdhn h Nea Dhmokratia. Einai ena qema poy eixe apasxolhsei, den jerw posoi apo esas hsastan parontes otan to syzhtoysame se antistoixes enhmerwseis sthn aiqoysa ths Rhgillhs. Tote eixan teqei polla erwthmata gia th dhqen alhqeia aytwn twn kataggeliwn. Opws apedeixqh, eprokeito gia ``dhqen alhqeia'', gia kataggelies kataskeyasmenes. En telei dikaiwnetai o Kwnstantinos Mhtsotakhs kai h Nea Dhmokratia me ayth thn apofash. Dioti epi seira mhnwn -kai mia kai milhsame gia arxeio k. Gkoytzanh- kalo qa htan kapoios na anatrejei kai na dei posa kai posa dhmosieymata grafthkan gia th sygkekrimenh ypoqesh enantion toy Kwnstantinoy Mhtsotakh kai ths Neas Dhmokratias.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh th dhlwmenh proqesh ths gallikhs trapezas Credit Agricole na agorasei to synolo twn metoxwn ths emporikhs trapezas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se ligh wra o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn qa kanei sxolio, sth synenteyjh Typoy twn synadelfwn sas poy kalyptoyn to oikonomiko reportaz.

GKOYTZANHS: Sta ellhnotoyrkika kai pali. Epeidh to trihmero poy perase yphrjan diafores diarroes, ayto poy qelw na rwthsw einai ean h kybernhsh exei aposyndesei to Kypriako apo thn ejelijh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn kai se kaqe periptwsh protassontas to symferon ths Elladas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti dhlwseis exoyn ginei gi` ayto to qema, isxyoyn. Den exw na allajw tipote apo ta osa exoyn eipwqei kata kairoys.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh erwthqhkate kata koron shmera oson afora to qema twn ejelijewn sto Kypriako kai epeidh merida toy ellhnikoy Typoy, grafei oti yparxei mia cyxrothta metajy Elladas kai Kyproy, yfistatai pragmati ayth h cyxrothta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewrw oti h apanthsh sta prohgoymena erwthmata exei dwsei apanthsh kai sto erwthma poy qesate. Ean yphrxe cyxrothta, den qa yphrxe, se kamia periptwsh, h tetoioy eidoys agasth synergasia h opoia efere ta apotelesmata sta opoia proanaferqhka.

MANH: Kyrie ekproswpe, sygnwmh, alla den katalaba thn prohgoymenh apanthsh sas. Eipate oti sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh htan gnwstes oi politikes qeseis ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Htan gnwsth kai h proqesh ths Leykwsias na askhsei beto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. Htan gnwstes oi kypriakes qeseis.

KAKALHS: Pros poia kateyqynsh ergasthke h diplwmatikh antiproswpeia kai h k. Mpakogiannh sto Loyjemboyrgo; Pros thn kateyqynsh ths sthrijhs twn dikaiwn aithmatwn ths kypriakhs kybernhshs h ths sthrijhs ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths Toyrkias poy einai kai strathgikos stoxos ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai gia ta dyo. Giati oxi;

KAKALHS: Giati to ena apokleiei to allo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqoloy, den apokleiei to ena to allo. Exete akoysei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia na tassetai enantion ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths Toyrkias; Nomizw oti ean ayto ypainissetai h erwthsh sas, mallon metaferete laqos th qesh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias.

KAKALHS: Ennow ti einai ayto poy ``barainei'' sth grammh ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean moy zhtate na ta balw se zygaria, qa sas pw oti den mpainoyn sth zygaria tetoia qemata. Einai poly aploikh h proseggish -den yparxei proswpikos ypainigmos, gia na mhn parejhghqw- kai den qa kanei ayth thn proseggish h kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei epanalabei polles fores oti h Toyrkia prepei na efarmosei plhrws oles tis ypoxrewseis ths apenanti sthn E.E. prokeimenoy na synexisei thn poreia ths. Mia apo aytes tis ypoxrewseis einai kai to anoigma twn limaniwn kai twn aerodromiwn ths. Exei kapoio xrono ston opoio h Toyrkia qa prepei na efarmosei th sygkekrimenh ypoxrewsh h einai genikws mexri thn entajh ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti problepetai apo tis symfwnies tis opoies exei ypogracei h Toyrkia me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph.

KOTARIDHS: Epeidh xqes synebh ena tragiko dystyxhma sth Xalkida, poios einai o armodios foreas gia tis pinakides stoys dromoys; To YPEXWDE leei oti den einai dikh toy armodiothta, o perifereiarxhs to idio. Telika, poios einai ypeyqynos gia tis pinakides;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai aparaskeyos na apanthsw. Mporw na rwthsw kai na sas pw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epanerxomai kai pali sto qema toy beto ths Kyproy, epeidh epanalambanete oti htan gnwstes oi kypriakes qeseis. Tote pros ti qa legame h emfanhs ekplhjh ews amhxania ths ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn to brady ths Paraskeyhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn kanw proseggiseis cyxologikoy xarakthra, opws aytes poy kanate sthn erwthsh sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa elega oti einai fysiognwmikoy xarakthra kai oxi cyxologikoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h episthmh ths cyxologias analyetai se polla kai diaforetika pedia.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Kypros eixe proeidopoihsei gia thn piqanothta probolhs 70 beto se baros ths toyrkikhs entajiakhs poreias. Ayto eseis to qewreite ws yposthrijh ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths Toyrkias ek meroys ths Leykwsias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean moy epitrepete, ekana mia dieykrinistikh parathrhsh ston k. Kakalh, legontas oti me ton tropo me ton opoio metefere mia qesh kindyneye na fanei oti h Kypros exei taxqei enantion ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths Toyrkias. Ayth htan mono h parathrhsh poy ekana. Ara to erwthma sas einai asyndeto me to prohgoymeno.

Sas eyxaristw.

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