Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-08

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 8 Ioynioy 2006

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOTARIDHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio sxetika me thn protash toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy xqes gia epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn ths xwras mas prin katalhjoyme sth Xagh.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipa xqes. Den exw na prosqesw kati. Sas ejhghsa oti h Ellada exei mia staqerh, dedomenh strathgikh sta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs, thn opoia sthrizoyn edw kai polla xronia, qa elega panw apo trianta, ta megala kommata.

SIDERHS: Pws krinete to gegonos oti proteinei se sas na kanete pragmata poy o idios den ta ekane ws Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthste ton idio, ton k. Papandreoy.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh exei th boylhsh na askhsei to kyriarxiko dikaiwma gia epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn sta 12 milia prin to synyposxetiko sth Xagh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa kai xqes kai qa epanalabw kai shmera oti h kybernhsh, h Ellada exei mia staqerh strathgikh thn opoia yposthrizoyn ta dyo megala kommata -kai oxi mono- edw kai trianta xronia, ths opoias ergaleio kai tmhma einai h prosfygh sth Xagh gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Otan dhmioyrghqoyn, opws eipa kai xqes, oi katallhles proypoqeseis.

KAKALHS: Ara, yposthrizete thn protash toy Proedroy toy PASOK. Ayto mas lete. Exete koinh strathgikh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, lete oti th sthrizoyn ta dyo megala kommata.

ANTWNAROS: Kai oxi mono, eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla o k. Papandreoy den einai Arxhgos toy enos megaloy kommatos; Kai proteinei thn epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn. Dhladh den th sthrizei opws fainetai.

ANTWNAROS: Einai epilogh sas na ``diabazete'' etsi osa eipe o k. Papandreoy. Egw den ta ``diabazw'' etsi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh symfwneite; Einai mesa sth staqerh kai dedomenh strathgikh poy sthrizoyn ta dyo megala kommata kai h epektash sta 12 milia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti, h prosfygh sth Xagh gia to sygkekrimeno ena qema, th mia diafora, einai ergaleio kai tmhma ths staqerhs, dedomenhs synolikhs strathgikhs thn opoia sthrizoyn edw kai panw apo trianta xronia ta dyo megala kommata, kai oxi mono.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy to qetei ws proypoqesh. Prwta epektash kai meta na pame sth Xagh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti exoyme synolikh strathgikh. Egw den blepw kamia kainoyria strathgikh, kanena neo stoixeio apo thn pleyra toy k. Papandreoy. O k. Papandreoy ypotiqetai oti zhthse na dei ton Prwqypoyrgo kai qelei na synanthsei kai toys arxhgoys twn allwn kommatwn gia mia nea strathgikh. Den blepw kanena neo stoixeio.

BLAXOS: Ti toy apanthse o k. Karamanlhs otan toy eipe gia to qema.

ANTWNAROS: Den synhqizw na sas metaferw toys dialogoys toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den to exw kanei pote kai den qa to kanw asfalws kai shmera.

BLAXOS: Ara toy apanthse aplws den mas lete.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den sas metaferw toys dialogoys kai den prokeitai na sas metaferw kanena dialogo.

BLAXOS: Lew oti toy apanthse alla aplws den mas to metaferete. Ayto mas lete.

ANTWNAROS: Eimai safhs se ayto poy lew. Den qa sas pw ti eipwqhke sth syzhthsh. Poly aplo. Teleia kai payla.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh milate gia dedomenh strathgikh ta teleytaia trianta xronia kai epeidh o aeimnhstos Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs zhtoyse thn epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn kai epeidh epishs lete oti den yparxei kanena neo stoixeio, para to gegonos oti o k. Papandreoy proteine thn epektash, na symperanoyme oti ayto einai kai mesa stis dikes sas skeceis, h epektash;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa sas eipa. Den exw na pw tipote allo. Osa molis eipate de, epibebaiwnoyn akribws oti eipa.

POYLIDOY: Epibebaiwnoyn eipate;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta poy moy eipate, epibebaiwnoyn oti yparxei edw kai 30 xronia synektikh, staqerh, dedomenh strathgikh sthn ejwterikh politikh.

SARANTAKOS: Ayth thn wra brisketai se ejelijh akomh mia poreia diamartyrias shmantikwn omadwn poy anhkoyn sth legomenh ekpaideytikh koinothta. Den einai h prwth kai endexomenws na mhn einai kai h teleytaia megalh kinhtopoihsh thn opoia kanoyn. Me dedomeno oti o Prwqypoyrgos alla kai eseis kai o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Roysopoylos, se ayth thn aiqoysa lete oti h Paideia einai enas basikos pylwnas, poios eyqynetai kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs gia to gegonos oti yparxoyn ayth th stigmh foithtes oi opoioi kindyneyoyn na xasoyn thn ejetastikh toys periodo ejaitias aytwn twn synexizomenwn kinhtopoihsewn. Ftaine oi foithtes;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den qa apodwsw eyqynes.

SARANTAKOS: Bainoyn kalws@;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy gnwrizw, einai oti h shmerinh kybernhsh exei kanei gia ta qemata ths Paideias ena dialogo me ektash kai me periexomeno, poy kamia allh kybernhsh sto parelqon den exei kanei, me th symmetoxh olwn. Enan poly eyry dialogo. Exoyn syzhthqei ta panta kai synepws den mporw na katanohsw giati oxi megales omades probainoyn synexws se aytes tis kinhtopoihseis.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite oti yparxoyn politikes skopimothtes pisw apo ayto;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw to eipa.

SARANTAKOS: Rwtw kai epimenw se ayto dioti einai profanes oti estw kapoies omades, mikres opws lete, kinhtopoioyntai. Den antilambanontai ayth thn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs, exoyn allo skopo; Profanws kati den paei kala.

ANTWNAROS: Oses fores ki an kanete thn idia erwthsh to idio qa sas apanthsw.

GKOYTZANHS: Giati lete mikres omades;

ANTWNAROS: Dioti ayth einai h ektimhsh poy kanw.

KAKALHS: Giati h kybernhsh den dhlwnei oti den qa ferei to nomo plaisio mesa sto kalokairi, opws zhtane, na ton aposyrei entelws;

ANTWNAROS: Dioti h kybernhsh exei thn eyqynh na nomoqetei. Apo ton megalo dialogo poy exei kanei, prokyptoyn diafora qemata gia ta opoia h kybernhsh qa nomoqethsei.

KAKALHS: Ara lete oti qa ferete to nomo plaisio mesa sto kalokairi.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tipote tetoio. Ekeino poy sas lew einai oti h protash nomoy qa doqei pros diaboyleysh kai otan oloklhrwqoyn oi diadikasies qa katateqei.

LEONTITSH: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite me poio skeptiko h ellhnikh kybernhsh edwse adeia ston prwhn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias Giasar Giakiz, na episkefqei thn erxomenh Tetarth th Qrakh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy to sygkekrimeno qema. Kalytera na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn giati einai poly eidiko qema.

MANH: Anejarthta apo thn protash toy k. Papandreoy, den einai logikh kinhsh na lyqei to qema twn miliwn kai meta na prosfygoyme sth Xagh gia thn yfalokrhpida kai mono;

ANTWNAROS: Oi ellhnikes kybernhseis, edw kai 30 xronia, exoyn mia synexh dedomenh strathgikh, h opoia sthrizetai kai apo ta dyo megala kommata. Den briskw tipote to kainoyrgio.

GKOYTZANHS: To kainoyrgio einai oti apo th xqesinh topoqethsh toy k. Papandreoy, fainetai mia diastash apocewn me thn kybernhsh. Gi` ayto kai epimenoyme stis erwthseis.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete profanws dikh sas ektimhsh. Egw den prokeitai na sxoliasw dikes sas ektimhseis.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh anhsyxei apo ayta poy grafei sthn prokhryjh ths h organwsh ``Epanastatikos Agwnas'';

ANTWNAROS: Ekana sxolio xqes.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: To jerw. Apla lew@

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati se osa eipa xqes.

POYLIDOY: Se allo qema, o k. Anastasiadhs, o Proedros toy DHSY xqes, proteine th sygklish paneqnikhs diaskechs gia to Kypriako sthn opoia kata thn protash toy klhqhke na symmetasxei toso o Prwqypoyrgos ths Elladas oso kai h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Exete kapoia apoch ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, kamia.

POYLIDOY: Qa apokthsete, na epanelqw sthn erwthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Na epanelqete.

BLAXOS: Gia thn prokhryjh qa kanete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka xqes.

GKOYTZANHS: Xqes sth Boylh, o k. Polydwras, ekane kapoioys apajiwtikoys xarakthrismoys gia to porisma toy Eisaggelea k. Dekaith, gia thn ypoqesh twn Pakistanwn. Den synista ayto parembash sth dikaiosynh;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den nomizw oti ayto to opoio metaferete, exei sxesh me osa eipe o k. Polydwras. Deyteron, isxyoyn ayta poy sas exw pei. H kybernhsh anamenei thn oloklhrwsh ths dikastikhs diereynhshs toy qematos.

GKOYTZANHS: Pantws, ep` aytoy, o k. Papalhgoyras poy einai o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, shmeiwse kata th diarkeia ths idias syzhthshs oti allh einai h qesh toy k. Polydwra kai allh h dikh toy.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipe ayta o k. Papalhgoyras.

GKOYTZANHS: To diabazw lejh pros lejh

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw egw kai sas diabazw einai oti kanei mia ektenh anafora se osa exoyn ginei sto plaisio ayths ths dikastikhs diereynhshs, epishmainontas o k. Papalhgoyras oti zhthse apo thn Eisaggelia Prwtodikwn Aqhnwn epishmh enhmerwsh, oxi bebaiws epi ths oysias alla epi ths poreias ths diadikasias kai leei kleinontas oti ``twra pleon to logo exei apokleistika kai mono h Dikaiosynh. As thn afhsoyme na kanei anephreasth th doyleia ths''.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Mporeite na mas peite ti eipe o k. Polydwras;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw mprosta moy olh thn omilia toy k. Polydwra. Gnwrizw omws oti polla apo ayta poy legontai, parafrazontai me epilektiko tropo. Se orismena apo ta MME ginetai epilogh, staxyologoyntai orismenes fraseis poy paratiqentai h mia dipla sthn allh. Allwste to ti legetai exei shmasia na to dei kaneis sto synolo mias topoqethshs kai mias omilias h mias analyshs h opoia ginetai.

KAKALHS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths protashs toy k. Papandreoy. H kybernhsh gnwrizei an h prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe proxwrhsei se syzhthseis me thn toyrkikh pleyra gia epektash twn xwrikwn ydatwn klimakwta, dhladh se 6, 10, 12 milia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei oti to periexomeno twn 22 diereynhtikwn gyrwn katagrafetai se praktika ta opoia briskontai sta arxeia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

KAKALHS: Ayto apo poy prokyptei, poy to jerete eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Ta keimena ayta, exoyn to xarakthra ths empisteytikothtas.

Einai ena eidiko qema gia to opoio den qa anaferw perissoteres leptomereies.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh shmera exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas plhrofories, symfwna me tis opoies, kata th diarkeia twn diereynhtikwn epafwn, stis opoies eseis anaferqhkate, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei h parapomph ths yfalokrhpidas sth Xagh, egine prosdiorismos ths aigialitidas zwnhs se diaforetiko eyros gia tis hpeirwtikes apo tis aktes twn nhsiwn toy Aigaioy kai apo tis aktes twn nhsiwn toy Ionioy kai ths Krhths. Eseis ayth thn plhroforia th gnwrizete, h kybernhsh thn exei ypoch ths, thn epibebaiwnei;

ANTWNAROS: Ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ekeinh thn epoxh htan o k. Papandreoy ston opoio kai parakalw na apeyqynqeite.

KAKALHS: Telika h kybernhsh aporriptei h oxi thn protash toy proedroy toy PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka me apolyth safhneia.

POYLIDOY: Ston k. Kwnstantopoylo qa dwsete ta praktika;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai qema poy afora thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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