Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-05

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Aqhna, 5 Ioynioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to Programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

@O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio, stis 09:30, qa synanthqei me th Genikh Kybernhth ths Neas Zhlandias Sylbia Kartrait.

@Stis 10:00, qa exei synergasia me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Ntora Mpakogiannh kai ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynhs Baggelh Meimarakh.

@Stis 11:00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Toyristikhs Anaptyjhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GKOYTZANHS: O k. Papalhgoyras ypebale thn paraithsh toy meta to peristatiko stis fylakes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. O k. Papalhgoyras ekane dhlwseis prin apo ligo. Exei milhsei gia ola ayta ta qemata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei qema politikwn eyqynwn gia olo ayto to kazo poy synebh xqes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta sxolia sas, parakalw sto kanali sas. Yparxei qema dioikhtikwn eyqynwn. Exei anaferqei o k. Papalhgoyras.

XIWTHS: Qa epimeinw kai egw sthn erwthsh, xwris sxolia: Pisteyete oti olo ayto to pragma poy synebh xqes me thn pthsh enos elikopteroy na katebainei stis fylakes, apodrash, diafygh, den synista kanenos eidoys politikh eyqynh gia thn kybernhsh kai toys Ypoyrgoys poy einai synarmodioi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei dioikhtikh eyqynh. Gi` ayth th dioikhtikh eyqynh exei milhsei hdh o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs kai exoyn epiblhqei kyrwseis stoys exontes ayth thn eyqynh.

SIDERHS: Den sas katalabainw kyrie Ekproswpe. Sigoyra o k. Papalhgoyras den htan fylakas kai den eixe bardia ekeinh thn wra. Wstoso, ayth th faidrothta ths apodrashs poy ypesthsan oi dioikhtikoi yfistamenoi toy, antanakla sto proswpo toy, se epipedo politikwn eyqynwn. To jerate kai eseis ws antipoliteysh kai gia cylloy phdhma zhtoysate paraithseis twn antistoixwn ypoyrgwn toy PASOK. Giati twra den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei.

SIDERHS: Den exete kyrie Ekproswpe.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, prwton, pote enhmerwqhke o Prwqypoyrgos gi` ayta poy synebhsan xqes ston Korydallo kai an eixe kapoia apoch thn opoia ejefrase o Prwqypoyrgos gia ta osa synebhsan kai an protiqetai, na synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Papalhgoyra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwqhke ligh wra meta to gegonos. Sta ypoloipa den mporw na sas apanthsw. Den apokleietai na ginoyn synanthseis, opws ginetai me oloys toys ypoyrgoys. O Prwqypoyrgos synantietai me oloys toys ypoyrgoys. Den yparxei kati kanonismeno ayth th stigmh.

SARANTAKOS: Ep` aytoy toy qematos, an krinei o Prwqypoyrgos oti yparxei qema epeigoysas synanthshs me ton k. Papalhgoyra@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eixe epikoinwnia kai xqes kai shmera me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs.

KAKALHS: Epimenete sth qewria toy politikws aneyqynoy gia thn kybernhsh, th stigmh poy einai fanero oti yparxoyn politikes eyqynes gia ton tropo poy organwnetai o kratikos mhxanismos gia na ferei se peras mia apostolh, opws einai ta kena kai oi elleiceis poy yparxoyn sthn asfaleia twn fylakwn h h anejelegkth pthsh twn elikopterwn. O tropos dhladh poy organwnetai o kratikos mhxanismos den einai qema politikwn eyqynwn; Antikeimenika kai anejarthta an yparxei eyqynh ston ypoyrgo h an prepei na fygei o ypoyrgos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas gia tis fylakes, exei hdh dwsei analytikes apanthseis o k. Papalhgoyras. Epeidh omws sthn erwthsh sas milhsate gia kena sthn pthsh twn elikopterwn -kai einai ena qema poy den exei apanthqei apo ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, den einai ths armodiothtas toy- qelw na sas pw oti epikoinwnhsa me to armodio ypoyrgeio. H xwra mas, molis prosfata ypesth elegxo apo ton ICAO kai diapistwqhke oti einai apolytws prosarmosmenh stis diatajeis toy ICAO kaqe pthsh kai oi diadikasies poy akoloyqoyn ayth thn pthsh. Qelw de na sas pw, opws me enhmerwnei to armodio ypoyrgeio oti h xwra mas exei kanones pio aysthroys apo alles xwres, stis opoies gia paradeigma, den ypoballontai se polles periptwseis oyte kan sxedia pthsewn.

POYLIDOY: Hqela na sas rwthsw, an kata thn krish sas h an exei kinhqei kapoia diadikasia, an yparxei qema dioikhtikwn eyqynwn gia thn astynomia Beroias, opoy opws prokyptei apo tis sxetikes antapokriseis, eixe mallon plhmmelh ektelesh twn kaqhkontwn ths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa speysw bebaiws na kanw kanena sxolio, giati h Astynomia, opws gnwrizete poly kala, eixe asxolhqei eidika me thn ypoqesh edw kai poly kairo, apo tote poy ejafanisthke o mikros Alej. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h Astynomia exei strecei thn ereyna ths kai se paidia mikrhs hlikias. Dhladh den einai mia plhroforia poy akoysthke gia prwth fora, alla apasxolhse thn Astynomia apo thn prwth periodo ths ejafanishs. Qa hqela na pw oti h kybernhsh ekfrazei thn ameristh sympaqeia ths sth mhtera kai stoys syggeneis toy mikroy Alej gia th sygklonistikh ayth ypoqesh ths ejafanishs toy. Oi armodies arxes ereynoyn kai synexizoyn na ereynoyn thn ypoqesh poy anadeiknyei problhmata yparkta kai sobara sthn koinwnia mas. Problhmata poy aforoyn oloys kai ton kaqena xwrista kai sta opoia ofeiloyme na enskhcoyme me eyaisqhsia. Perimenoyme oloi th lysh ayths ths ypoqeshs poy exei sygklonisei oloys toys Ellhnes polites.

SIDERHS: Molis koinwniologhsate kai eipate ``anadeiknyei problhmata yparkta sthn koinwnia mas''. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw: H mh analhch politikwn eyqynwn apo ton k. Papalhgoyra, ti mhnymata ekpempei sthn koinwnia mas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prospaqeite na syndesete me atyxh, qa elega, tropo h en pash periptwsei me tropo o opoios den syndeei to ena me to allo qema. Sto men ena qema exw apanthsei, sto de deytero, qewrwntas oti den syndeetai to ena me to allo, den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio.

SIDERHS: Den ta synedesa. Se epipedo mhnymatwn, h mh analhch eyqynwn, ti mhnymata ekpempei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei.

MPOTSARAKOS: Eipate oti oi kanones einai pio aysthroi se sxesh kai me alles xwres kai qelw na rwthsw@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti se orismenes periptwseis oi kanones einai pio aysthroi.

MPOTSARAKOS: Malista. Qelw na rwthsw omws, ean meta apo ayto to peristatiko diapistwsate oti yparxoyn adynamies se aytoys toys kanones kai an yparxei kapoios sxediasmos na allajoyn oi kanones toy elegxoy twn pthsewn twn elikopterwn. Poioi dhladh epibibazontai sta elikoptera, ean qa parakoloyqoyntai apo ta rantar ta elikoptera sthn Aqhna klp.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa kai pali oti oi kanones aytoi einai apolyta prosarmosmenoi stoys kanones toy ICAO. Yparxei mia seira apo leptomereies texnikhs fysews, oi opoies bebaiws den apasxoloyn ayth thn aiqoysa. Exoyn endiaferon, to antilambanomai. Qa parakalesw na meinete se ayth thn enhmerwsh thn opoia sas kanw, me bash thn enhmerwsh poy eixa apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

KYRITSHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate se problhmata poy prepei na apasxolhsoyn oloys mas, qelw na rwthsw, ean kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, metajy aytwn twn problhmatwn einai h anergia poy einai megalh sth Boreia Ellada, h koinwnikh ejaqliwsh kai to gegonos oti den phgainoyn lefta sthn paideia. Edw fainetai ena sxoleio se dialysh, to opoio den einai se qesh na elegjei, estw typika pragmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa anaferqw kyriws sta qemata ths paideias, xwris na meiwnw to qema ths anergias, to opoio anaferate, giati allwste exoyme anaferqei polles fores kai me eidika programmata, ta opoia malista nomoqethqhkan ton teleytaio kairo gia perioxes poy exoyn ychlh anergia. Qa hqela na sas pw gia na gnwrizete oti to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn se synergasia me to Paidagwgiko Institoyto pragmatopoihse, kata thn periodo apo ton Noembrioy 2005 ews ton Aprilio 2006, taxyrryqmo epimorfwtiko programma, sxetika me th diaxeirish problhmatwn sxolikhs tajhs. Skopos toy programmatos htan oi 5000 symmetexontes ekpaideytikoi, na employtisoyn tis gnwseis toys kai na beltiwsoyn tis praktikes toys, wste na antapokrinontai apotelesmatikotera sth diaxeirish tetoiwn problhmatwn. Yparxei seira qematwn sta opoia doqhke idiaiterh emfash.

Den qa sas ta diabasw ola gia na mhn sas koyrasw, aplws qa pw mono oti metajy aytwn twn qematwn perilambanontai: H antimetwpish twn problhmatwn epiqetikothtas kai bias sto sxoliko periballon, h kalliergeia koinwnikwn dejiothtwn kai tropwn diaxeirishs sygkroysewn, stres kai qymoy, ston entopismo twn paragontwn poy proagoyn th bia kai thn epiqetikothta. Epishs, qa hqela na sas pw oti yphrje poly megalh aphxhsh sto programma ayto apo thn ekpaideytikh koinothta, gi ayto qa epanalhfqei me diplasio ariqmo wrwn kai diplasio ariqmo symmetexontwn ekpaideytikwn to 2006 kai to 2007. Epishs, to Eqniko Idryma Neothtas ylopoiei gia logariasmo toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn 61 pilotika programmata, ta opoia ylopoioyntai apo symprajeis sxoleiwn kai allwn koinwnikwn forewn. Ta qematika pedia einai eji. Ena ej aytwn einai: ``Diaproswpikes sxeseis, cyxikh ygeia'', sto plaisio toy opoioy 209 sxoleia prwtobaqmias kai deyterobaqmias ekpaideyshs, ekteloyn pilotika programmata poy aforoyn thn cyxikh ygeia twn paidiwn kai tis diaproswpikes sxeseis.

Epishs, ena allo pedio programmatwn poy ylopoiei to Eqniko Idryma Neothtas (ta programmata enisxyshs prwtoboyliwn, opws legontai) kai to opoio ekteleitai apo to 2003 se qemata sxetika me thn cyxikh ygeia twn paidiwn kai twn efhbwn, exoyn drasthriopoihqei gia thn ylopoihsh toys 1.263 sxoleia. To kalokairi toy 2005, sto plaisio toy programmatos ths agwghs ygeias, to opoio ylopoiei to Eqniko Idryma Neothtas, eginan tria epimorfwtika seminaria: To prwto gia ekpaideytikoys ths prwtobaqmias ekpaideyshs diarkeias 80 wrwn kai ta alla dyo diarkeias 240 wrwn to kaqena sthn Aqhna kai to Kilkis. Sto parelqon de exoyn pragmatopoihqei epaneilhmmena seminaria kai dihmerides gia toys ypeyqynoys agwghs ygeias. Pragmatopoihqhkan dihmerides ton Febroyario toy 2005, enw stis 26 Ioynioy pragmatopoieitai akoma ena kai ton Septembrio.

Opws diapistwnete apo ta stoixeia poy sas diabasa kai phra mono liga apo ayta poy me promhqeyse to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn, yparxoyn programmata, ta opoia exoyn asxolhqei me sobarothta kai ypeyqynothta -opws ginetai se polles politismenes xwres- se zhthmata bias sta sxoleia. Pantws, einai zhthmata poy ws fainomena ta parathrei kapoios se sygxrones koinwnies kai ta opoia bebaiws den prepei na ta afhnei na pernoyn. Ki eseis diapistwnete oti apo thn politikh poy askeitai sto ypoyrgeio Paideias, oxi mono den ta afhnei na pernoyn ws problhmata, alla ta entopizei, ta antimetwpizei kai prospaqei na dwsei lysh se baqos.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, emena moy fainetai ligo asteio, enas kakopoios fortwmenos me opla mpainei se ena elikoptero, apeilei ton piloto kai to odhgei stis fylakes. Qa mporoyse na to odhghsei sto Majimoy h opoydhpote alloy. Den yparxei ena genikotero qema asfaleias, den yparxoyn eyqynes se ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emena den moy fainetai kaqoloy asteio. Moy fainetai para poly sobaro. Oson afora ta ypoloipa exw apanthsei.

XIWTHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate stoys kanones toy ICAO exete gnwsh ean aytoi oi kanones, aytes oi diadikasies thrhqhkan sth sygkekrimenh pthsh h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, thrhqhkan aytoi oi kanones. Exoyn hdh anakoinwqei, exoyn hdh doqei leptomereies apo tis armodies yphresies gia tis pthseis kai gia to sxedio pthsews kai gia tis pthseis ocews gia to ti isxyei. Den qelw na mpw se perissoteres leptomereies giati den einai armodiothta ayths ths syzhthshs.

XIWTHS: Einai dynaton, omws, na thrhqhkan oi kanones kai oi epibates na koybaloysan opla kai xeirobombida;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Metajy twn kanonwn den problepetai o elegxos twn epibatwn. Ta elikoptera exoyn entelws diaforetikoys kanones, ap` o,ti exoyn ta aeroskafh. Ta elikoptera prosgeiwnontai kai apogeiwnontai apo diaforetikwn eidwn elikodromia. Apo fylassomena poy briskontai entos aerolimenwn kai apo mh fylassomena, ta opoia briskontai -eite einai idiwtika eite dhmosia- se para polloys xwroys se kaqe perioxh, se kaqe xwra. Thrhqhkan aytoi oi kanones poy problepontai apo to ICAO. Eimaste apolyta prosarmosmenoi se aytoys toys kanones kai sas eipa kai pali, sas edwsa ena paradeigma, oti se merikes periptwseis, se megalyteres xwres ths E.E. den problepetai ypobolh sxediwn pthsewn. Ayto den shmainei oti ypobibazei kapoios to gegonos, gia na mhn yparxei parejhghsh. To gegonos einai sobaro. Qa hqela, omws, na synypologisoyme oti sth sygxronh epoxh, ta sygxrona problhmata oloena kai pairnoyn diaforetikes morfes. H egklhmatikothta sth sygxronh epoxh exei poly diaforetikes morfes ap` oti prin apo mia-dyo-treis dekaeties.

XIWTHS: Stoys kanones aytoys den perilambanetai kai h taytopoihsh, h ejakribwsh ths taytothtas twn epibatwn h toy ekmisqwth toy elikopteroy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw tis leptomereies twn kanonwn. Eimai bebaios oti ta armodio ypoyrgeio qa sas promhqeysei efoson qelete na plhroforhqeite oles aytes tis leptomereies. Qa meinw sth genikh topoqethsh, thn opoia kanw, me bash thn enhmerwsh poy eixa ki egw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh ena doqhke h adeia apogeiwshs toy elikopteroy kai apo poion; Yparxei h ektimhsh toy Proedroy twn ergazomenwn sthn YPA k. Alebizopoyloy oti ean exei doqei tetoia adeia apogeiwshs apo ton Agio Kosma na fygei to elikoptero ayto apagoreyetai kai edw htan safestates oi eyqynes ths YPA.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw sxolio epi mias dhlwsews, thn opoia den gnwrizw. Prin apo ligh wra, o armodios ypoyrgos k. Liaphs proebh se dhlwseis gia to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ws kybernhsh den qewreite oti yparxoyn eyqynes sthn YPA, ws pros to qema ths apogeiwshs toy elikopteroy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw apanthsei kai den qa mpw sthn poly grhgorh kai proxeirh diadikasia na moirasw eyqynes dejia kai aristera, xwris na exw dedomena stoixeia. Eipa prin oti o armodios ypoyrgos exei kanei dhlwsh, sthn opoia -an den thn gnwrizete- tonizei akribws oti thrhqhkan aytoi oi kanones. Egw proxwrhsa ena bhma parapera, me thn enhmerwsh poy eixa apo to ypoyrgeio, na milhsw gi aytoys toys kanones se sxesh me ton ICAO.

SARANTAKOS: Gnwrizete, epibebaiwnete h diaceydete ayto poy problhqhke xqes, oti yphrxe edw kai poly kairo mia eishghsh toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs pros to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, na topoqethqei panw apo to proaylio twn fylakwn syrmatoplegma, akribws gia na apofeygontai peristatika opws ayto to opoio synebh xqes. Yparxei tetoia eishghsh h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw.

LEONTITSH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera, o k. Pagkalos milhse gia kommatika orgia kai kommatikoys egkaqetoys sth Dikaiosynh. Kathggeile malista ton Proedro toy Areioy Pagoy k. Rwmylo Kedikogloy, oti ws dikasths eixe ceydorkhsei kata toy k. Papaiwannoy kai oti gi` ayto htan enhmeros o k. Papalhgoyras. Ti leei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia ton k. Pagkalo, tipote.

LEONTITSH: Gi` ayta poy kathggeile.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epishs to idio. Gia ton k. Pagkalo, tipote.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, pws ajiologei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti sto xroniko diasthma kata to opoio qa brisketai sthn Toyrkia h k. Mpakogiannh, qa ginei enas syndyasmos toyrkikwn naytikwn kai aeroporikwn askhsewn sto Aigaio kai synafws an telika qa yparjei qerino moratorioym fetos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to deytero skelos toy erwthmatos sas, exw kanei mia-dyo anafores se ayth thn aiqoysa kai exw kanei epishs mia-dyo anafores me aformh tis synanthseis poy eixan oi dyo Prwqypoyrgoi. Gia to prwto skelos toy erwthmatos sas, einai mia askhsh poy exei anakoinwqei epishmws apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias oti qa pragmatopoihqei h sygkekrimenh askhsh.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Ep` aytoy, exei labei h kybernhsh eggyhseis gia thn askhsh oti dhladh den qa yparjoyn proklhseis, parabiaseis h otidhpote allo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewroyme oti h Toyrkia qa kinhqei sth logikh mias xwras poy endiaferetai gia thn eyrwpaikh ths prooptikh.

PAPAMIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw an h kybernhsh epibebaiwnei xqesino dhmosieyma ths ``Kaqhmerinhs'' oti h Ellada kai h Toyrkia to 2003 mesw diplwmatikwn epafwn, eixan ftasei poly konta sth syntajh synyposxetikoy gia thn parapomph sth Xagh me qema thn yfalokrhpida. Epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw an to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei sth diaqesh toy tetoia stoixeia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn -opws enhmerwqhka- tetoio ypomnhma grapto h proforiko den parelhfqh apo th nea kybernhsh, thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias.

GKOYTZANHS: Tis teleytaies hmeres parathroyme mia seira apo diarroes poy aforoyn tis diereynhtikes epafes poy exw thn entypwsh pws diarkoyn poly kairo metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias. Dhmioyrgeitai h entypwsh mias mystikhs diplwmatias kai blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas plhrofories poy den mporoyn na elegxqoyn. Mhpws h kybernhsh skeftetai na kanei mia plhresterh enhmerwsh gyrw apo ayta ta qemata; Dioti gia paradeigma (den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dexomenos oti einai synexeia ths prohgoymenhs erwthsews, qa symplhrwsw se ayto poy eipa, oti opws poly swsta epishmanate, briskontai se ejelijh diereynhtikes epafes. Egine prosfata o 34os gyros aytwn twn epafwn. Praktika gia toys gyroys aytwn twn synomiliwn -kai se ayto to shmeio, nomizw, oti pairnete mia emmesh apanthsh- briskontai sta arxeia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. O en logw isxyrismos, oti dhladh h prohgoymenh kybernhsh briskotan sta proqyra mias symfwnias -giati akoysthke kai aytos o isxyrismos- qa hqela na symplhrwsw oti gia prosfygh sth Xagh, den prokyptei apo ta arxeia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai ap` oti parelabe h shmerinh kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: O prwhn Prwqypoyrgos k. Shmiths, sto biblio toy, apokalyptei oti htan zhthma xronoy, isws ligwn mhnwn h eydokimh katalhjh sth bash ths amoibaias synaineshs, oson afora thn prosfygh sth Xagh. H kybernhsh (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas lew ti paralabame. Den mporw na jerw an yphrxe parallhlos diaylos diapragmateysewn gia tis opoies den threito praktika h arxh. Emeis pantws paralabame ayta poy sas eipa.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Telika h Eqnikh Trapeza qa dwsei ta 6 ekatommyria poy apaitoyntai ston PAOK me mia eggyhtikh gia na mporesei telika na symmetasxei sto OYEFA. Diaceydete thn plhroforia oti yphrje parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ton k. Arapogloy gi` ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h Eqnikh Trapeza einai mia trapeza poy leitoyrgei me idiwtikooikonomika krithria.

XIWTHS: O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, eixe zhthsei mia synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Gnwrizete an exei orisqei kai pote qa pragmatopoihqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa anakoinwqei entos ths hmeras. Exw thn entypwsh omws oti qa ginei thn Tetarth. Den gnwrizw omws oristika pote exei kleistei to ranteboy.

POYLIDOY: Ean katalaba kala milate gia ena ypomnhma me to periexomeno poy apodidei to dhmosieyma ths ``Kaqhmerinhs''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milaw gia thn plhroforia oti to 2003 oi dyo xwres eixan ftasei konta se kat` arxas symfwnia. Kai lew oti tetoio ypomnhma grapto h proforiko, den parelhfqh apo th shmerinh kybernhsh. Den yparxei dhladh kati poy na epibebaiwnei ayth thn plhroforia.

POYLIDOY: Parelhfqh ypomnhma sto opoio na anaferetai h prooptikh prosfyghs sth Xagh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati perissotero. Ayto to opoio anaferqhke pantws se xqesino dhmosieyma ws plhroforia, exei ayth thn apanthsh poy sas edwsa.

MPALHS: Pws sxoliazete thn epimonh toy tews Proedroy Dhmokratias gia to qema ths prosfyghs sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs kai thn epilogh toy na apanthsei pali mesw arqroy ston ypoyrgo Amynas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas elega oti h lejh thn opoia xrhsimopoihsate den armozei toso ston Kwsth Stefanopoylo me thn politikh poreia poy exei, oso kai sto ajiwma toy tews Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Kata ta loipa, exw kanei hdh ta sxolia, den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Qa epanelqw epeidh den moy apanthsate. Yphrje parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ton k. Arapogloy prokeimenoy na doqoyn ta 6 ekatommyria ston PAOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti h Eqnikh einai mia idiwtikh trapeza. Opws katalabainete h dikh mas politikh filosofia antimetwpizei diaforetika ta pragmata apo th logikh twn parembasewn.

GKOYTZANHS: Oson afora ta ellhnotoyrkika paramenei ena erwthma. Se kapoio stadio twn diereynhtikwn epafwn h toyrkikh pleyra exei qesei kai qema Qrakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti pairnete apanthsh sta erwthmata poy moy qesate apo to oti yparxoyn praktika sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia oloys toys gyroys twn synomiliwn. Kai ta praktika ayta gnwrizete oti syntassontai apo toys diplwmates poy metexoyn sth diadikasia twn diapragmateysewn, einai de prosbasima sta kommata. Oi perissoteres synanthseis eginan epi prohgoymenwn kybernhsewn. Den exw diabasei ta praktika kai oyte einai aytos o rolos moy. O,ti gnwriza gia thn ypoqesh, sas to eipa.

KAKALHS: Gia thn aeronaytikh askhsh ths Toyrkias poy qa ginetai sto Aigaio, thn periodo poy qa brisketai sthn Kwnstantinoypolh h k. Mpakogiannh kai qa exei epafes me ton k. Gkioyl, epideijate mia cyxraimia, wstoso, qa hqela na pw oti gia thn askhsh ayth exei desmeytei meros ths perioxhs toy aerodromioy ths Lhmnoy, qigontas kyriarxika dikaiwmata. Ayto den enoxlei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ayto poy lete. Qa enhmerwqw apo ta armodia ypoyrgeia gia na exw mia apanthsh na sas dwsw ayrio. Sto prwto skelos ths parathrhsews sas peri cyxraimias poy eniote deixnw se ayth thn aiqoysa, sas eyxaristw poly.

NTRITAN: Edw kai mia ebdomada, sthn Albania prwto qema paizetai mia istoria poy exei na kanei me thn ektafh twn Ellhnwn pessontwn sto B` Pagkosmio Polemo. Den jerw ean exete gnwsh aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

NTRITAN: Hqela na jerw, epeidh o albanikos Typos eikazei ean ola ayta ginontai me th gnwsh ths Aqhnas, ean exei syzhthqei kai prin me thn kybernhsh Nano h me ton Mperisa, ean exei syzhthqei to qema ths ektafhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa ereynhsw to qema dioti den to gnwrizw kai qa sas apanthsw.

MPOTSARAKOS: Thn Paraskeyh sth Lamia topikoi foreis zhthsan apo ton Prwqypoyrgo ena programma analoga me ths Naoysas giati exei ychlh anergia h perioxh kai zhthsan na dwsei entolh ston k. Alogoskoyfh na ektamieysei kapoia xrhmata gia to biomhxaniko parko. Jerete ean exei ginei kati apo ta dyo h ean yparxei proqesh apo thn kybernhsh na ginei kati apo ta dyo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, den exw gnwsh. Oson afora to prwto, gnwrizete oti yparxei nomos pia, o opoios problepei tis diadikasies.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei parapono apo ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, apenanti ston k. Alogoskoyfh gia thn politikh poy askei ayth th sklhrh, sfikth oikonomikh politikh. Giati shmera, ean den kanw laqos, epanelabe thn proeidopoihsh toy o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai oi synadelfoi toy na kinoyntai sta plaisia toy dedomenoy proypologismoy. To ejelaba ws mia emmesh momfh kata twn synadelfwn toy poy exoyn parapona.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Einai nomizw mia aplh ypomnhsh poy kanei o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Apo kairoy eis kairon kanei thn ypomnhsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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