Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-03-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 22 Martioy 2006

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei, ayrio, stis 10:00, gia tis Bryjeles, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio.

Ayrio, apo tis 12:00 - 17:00, pragmatopoieitai h synanthsh toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. Stis 17:00, qa ginei synanthsh twn melwn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas k. Trise, ton Proedro twn Biomhxanikwn kai Ergodotikwn Synomospondiwn Eyrwphs kai ton Proedro ths Synomospondias Emporikhs Enwshs Eyrwphs. Oi synanthseis aytes qa ginoyn paroysia toy Proedroy toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy. Stis 17:30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy. Stis 18:00 arxizei h prwth synodos ergasiwn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, h opoia problepetai na synexistei ws tis 20:00. Stis 20:15 qa parateqei deipno ergasias.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 09:00, o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths PGDM k. Mpoykofski. Stis 10:00, qa arxisoyn oi ergasies ths deyterhs synodoy toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy oi opoies qa diarkesoyn ews tis 13:00.

Me aformh to prosklhthrio poy apeyqyne o k. Papandreoy pros toys neoys ths xwras mas na akoloyqhsoyn to paradeigma twn Gallwn newn kai na ginoyn epanastates me aitia, epishmaname tis teleytaies hmeres oti aitia twn antidrasewn sth Gallia einai oi nomoqetikes ryqmiseis ths kybernhshs Bilpen gia thn antimetwpish ths anergias twn newn. Tonisame to paradojo oti h protroph toy k. Papandreoy strefetai oysiastika kata toy idioy, kaqws h protash toy sto Layrio kineitai sthn idia logikh me tis ryqmiseis Nte Bilpen. Qa prosqeta malista oti h protash toy Proedroy toy PASOK k. Papandreoy einai kai pio proxwrhmenh, toso ws pros ta oria hlikias, oso kai ws pros th diarkeia ths anasfalisths ergasias. To PASOK, me mia seira anakoinwsewn, mas kathgorei gia diastreblwsh. Emeis to mono poy kaname htan na paraqesoyme aytoysio, lejh pros lejh, to apospasma ths omilias toy k. Papandreoy. To PASOK ejanesth me thn apo meroys mas epishmansh ths omoiothtas twn protasewn Papandreoy @ Nte Bilpen, alla den to eipame mono emeis. Xqes, sto radiofwniko staqmo ``AQHNA 9,84'', o boyleyths Epikrateias toy PASOK k. Stefanos Manos dhlwse oti h protash Papandreoy exei omoiothtes me thn protash Nte Bilpen. Anti, loipon, na epistrateyontai oi ybreis kai ta cemata gia ta aytapodeikta, einai kairos o k. Papandreoy na jekaqarisei th qesh toy. Ejakoloyqei, nai h oxi na yposthrizei thn protash toy; Kai as stamathsei na krybetai pisw apo ta alla stelexh poy peri allwn tyrbazoyn.

H synexizomenh kai lyssalea epiqesh kata toy proswpoy moy, ybristikh kai sykofantikh, exei idiotelh kinhtra. Dhlwnw gia mia akomh fora -kai den qa koyrastw na to dhlwnw- oti h dhmosia stash moy apotelei staqerh apanthsh se osoys epixeiroyn na me plhjoyn politika, me meqodoys opws aytes poy proanefera. Ayta pros to paron.

H enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn ayrio qa ginei stis 12:30, katopin aithmatos twn dhmosiografwn poy ergazontai stis efhmerides, kaqoson aytes qa kleisoyn nwritera ayrio, logw ths argias ths 25hs Martioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Eipate ligo prin gia ton k. Mano oti dhlwse pws yparxei omoiothta stis protaseis toy k. Papandreoy kai toy k. Nte Bilpen. To idio ekane shmera kai o k. Sphliwtopoylos. Eipe oti to sxedio Nte Bilpen mporei na einai mia bash gia to dialogo kai sthn Ellada. To sxolio sas ep` aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei oytws h allws me mia seira dhlwsewn poy exw kanei aytes tis hmeres sxetika me to sxedio Nte Bilpen.

SIDERHS: Mhpws jerete, ean o k. Panagiwths Cwmiadhs prosxwrhse sto PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw tetoia plhroforia. Exete kapoia sygkekrimenh erwthsh na qesete;

SIDERHS: Bebaiws. Shmera exei kleisth th Nomarxia gia aqethsh yposxesewn, kathgorwntas thn kybernhsh gi` ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai oti o Nomarxhs Qessalonikhs exei kapoion tropo na diamartyrhqei gia orismena pragmata. Sebomai th diamartyria apo opoydhpote kai an proerxetai.

SIDERHS: Th qewreite kai dikaih;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ta aithmata toy gia na pw, an einai dikaia h oxi.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh qewrei ikanopoihtiko to 2,8% poy proteinei gia ayjhsh twn misqwn o SEB;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, den ypeiserxetai stis diapragmateyseis metajy twn koinwnikwn etairwn. H kybernhsh, apo thn pleyra ths sthn eisodhmatikh ths politikh, prospaqhse kai petyxe, wste oi ayjhseis gia fetos, na kinhqoyn panw apo ta oria toy plhqwrismoy. Ayta einai ta oria ths antoxhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. O Prwqypoyrgos -qelw na sas qymisw- se omilia toy sth Boylh, prin apo liges hmeres, dhlwse oti qa prepei oi epixeirhseis poy exoyn megala kerdh, na proxwrhsoyn sth dianomh twn kerdwn kai stoys ergazomenoys, stoys opoioys ofeiletai, epishs, h kalh poreia twn epixeirhsewn. Den ofeiletai, omws mono se aytoys. Ofeiletai se mia seira paragontwn, metajy twn opoiwn kai h apodosh twn ergazomenwn. Ayth einai h apanthsh moy.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, symfwna me prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas to BHMA, h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph anamenetai na parapemcei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio gia th mh symmorfwsh sxetika me apofaseis koinotikwn organwn, gia thn epistrofh paranomwn kratikwn epidothsewn pros thn Olympiakh Aeroporia. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epikoinwnhsa me ton armodio ypoyrgo k. M. Liaph, o opoios moy epeshmane ta ejhs: O,ti afora tis enisxyseis sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia symfwna me thn apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs poy ejedoqh to 2000, htan gia prohgoymenes xrhseis. H shmerinh kybernhsh exei probei se oles tis aparaithtes energeies gia thn epistrofh twn xarakthrizomenwn ws ``paranomwn enisxysewn'' sto ellhniko dhmosio apo thn Olympiakh Aeroporia. Ola ayta, symfwna me tis diadikasies ths ellhnikhs nomoqesias. Opws einai gnwsto, aytes oi diadikasies einai xronobores.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipate oti milhsate me ton k. Liaph. Yparxei mia entonh fhmologia twn teleytaiwn wrwn, oti ekdhlwsan endiaferon gia thn agora ths Olympiakhs ta Enwmena Arabika Emirata. Yparxei kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn kanw kanena sxolio gia opoiadhpote plhroforia poy afora thn ypoqesh ths pwlhshs. Gnwrizete -to eipa xqes kai proxqes alla kai sto parelqon- oti einai mia sobarh ypoqesh poy apaitei leptoys xeirismoys. Kalon qa einai na perimenoyme, otan oloklhrwqoyn aytoi oi xeirismoi, na ginoyn oi anakoinwseis apo toys armodioys.

KORAH: Gia to qema ths Olympiakhs. Mexri stigmhs exoyme dyo apoceis. Toy k. P. Doyka, poy leei oti eimaste etoimoi na kanoyme sygkekrimenes protaseis sthn E.E. kai profanws anaferetai se ekdhlwsh endiaferontos agoras ths Olympiakhs h symmetoxhs sto neo sxhma ths, gia na eimai pio akribhs kai exoyme kai ton k. Liaph o opoios, paizei kapws ton ``apisto Qwma''. Leei: An den dw, akribws den pisteyw tipote. Emeis poion apo toys dyo ypoyrgoys na pistecoyme;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai oi dyo ypoyrgoi kai alloi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs, alla kai egw sthn topoqethsh poy exw kanei aytes tis hmeres sto press room, exoyme mia koinh synistamenh poy thn eipa prohgoymenws: Sthn ypoqesh ayth, kalon einai na perimenoyme. Ennow, na perimenoyme me endiaferon, opws eipa kai xqes, oxi mono oi Ellhnes polites, oi ergazomenoi, oloi, giati ayth h kinhsh afora kai thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Den qa htan omws dokimo apo thn pleyra moy na pw to otidhpote thn wra poy ginontai diapragmateyseis, thn wra poy ginontai syzhthseis, thn wra poy yparxoyn kefalaia, ta opoia prosanatolizontai sthn agora ayths ths megalhs etaireias.

KORAH: Eseis den milate. Milane omws oi ypoyrgoi. Mhpws den qa eprepe na milane;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh poy edwsa htan arketh. Den xreiazetai na pw tipote perissotero.

SIDERHS: Eipate, den parembainete stis syllogikes diapragmateyseis. Wstoso strwsate to xali gi ayth thn adiallajia twn ergodotwn, me to wrario poy katarghsate, me tis yperwries mikroy kostoys. Ekei parembhkate.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na pw, oti, ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs qa epimeinw sthn apoch poy ejefrasa. Apo ekei kai pera, eipa kai ti ekane h kybernhsh sthn eisodhmatikh politikh, oson afora tis ayjhseis pros toys ergazomenoys sto dhmosio tomea. Ston eyrytero dhmosio tomea, epishs yparxei mia politikh, thn opoia exete hdh dei. Qa anaferw ena paradeigma, to opoio gnwrizete poly kala. Oi ayjhseis stoys dhmosiografoys -kai ayto perilambanei kai toys dhmosiografoys poy ergazontai sta kratika diktya- einai arketa ychloteres apo to 3%. Einai ths tajhs toy 6% gia efetos kai 6% gia ton epomeno xrono. Yparxoyn epixeirhseis, poy exoyn proxwrhsei se ayjhseis poly megalyteres twn posostwn poy anefere o Proedros toy SEB. Den qa sxoliasw ton Proedro toy SEB. Den einai ayth h doyleia moy. Wstoso, h epixeirhmatikothta anaptyssetai, h koinwnikh drash anaptyssetai eleyqera, ginontai syzhthseis. H kybernhsh den exei skopo na parembei se ayth th diadikasia. Den einai aytos o rolos ths.

SIDERHS: An den ta broyn sto dihnekes, h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na nomoqethsei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apofygei polles fores -nomizw mia h dyo fores den to ekana kai htan laqos- na milhsw me to ``ean''. Ara loipon qa apofygw na apanthsw me se erwthsh me ``ean''.

LEONTITSH: Me tis ayrianes kinhtopoihseis sta panepisthmia kaqhghtwn kai foithtwn, h kybernhsh ektima oti einai ypokinoymenes, opws tis xarakthrise shmera h k. Giannakoy, milwntas sto radiofwno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti exei pei h Ypoyrgos Paideias me kalyptei.

SARANTAKOS: Exw mia erwthsh kai mia dieykrinish. Prwton h dieykrinish. Milhsate apenanti s` aythn thn apokalych toy EQNOYS gia thn prwtoboylia toy k. Paterakh na steilei ayth thn epistolh, idiotelh kinhtra. Mporeite na moy perigracete ti akribws ennoeite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayta pros to paron.

SARANTAKOS: Fantazomai oti qa exete kapoio stoixeio h kati to opoio qa qelate na mas peite.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayta pros to paron.

SARANTAKOS: Mhpws apofasisate na dieyrenisete gia to an qa ginei ayth h syskech h oxi; Giati epimenw oti an ginei h syskech den afora mono ton polith Paterakh, opws ton xarakthrisate xqes, afora kai thn kybernhsh an symmetasxoyn tesseris ypoyrgoi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei kai s` ayto.

SARANTAKOS: Moy eipate oti den qa to cajete, gi ayto epimenw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei.

SARANTAKOS: Epimenete dhladh sto oti den qa to koitajete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eiste eyfyhs anqrwpos kai to gnwrizoyn oloi. Den xreiazetai na sas pw treis fores oti exw apanthsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Exei programmatistei mia megalh ejormhsh twn stelexwn ths kybernhshs kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn eparxia. Ayto sxetizetai me kapoia deigmata ta opoia exete apo thn eparxia oti isws den pane kala kapoies dhmoskophseis, isws phgainoyme akomh kai se prowres ekloges, den to apekleise kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oydepote stamathsan oi ejormhseis -opws exoyme synhqisei na tis onomazoyme- twn politikwn stelexwn ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias se diafores perioxes toy topoy mas. Den stamathsan sthn antipoliteysh, den stamathsan oyte otan giname kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Twra omws, ap` oti fainetai apo to programma sas, exoyn entaqei. Mhpws einai kai apanthsh sto sxolio toy k. Papandreoy, oti krybetai o Prwqypoyrgos sto Majimoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den symfwnw kaqoloy mazi sas. To sxolio toy k. Papandreoy, allwste, egine molis prin apo dyo hmeres. Se kaqe periptwsh, qa sas kaloysa na deite to programma twn stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias. Episkefteite ta grafeia ths Neas Dhmokratias. Qa breite ena poly filojeno periballon sto Grafeio Typoy kai sto Grafeio toy Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Qa sas enhmerwsoyn kai qa sas dwsoyn to programma, wste na deite poy exoyn paei ta teleytaia dyo xronia ta stelexh. Elpizw na breite xwro sthn efhmerida sas na tis dhmosieysete giati einai para polles oi ejormhseis poy exoyn ginei kai xreiazontai polles selides efhmeridas gia na tis dhmosieysete.

BOYZAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prin se erwthsh ths synadelfoys k. Leontitsh oti oi kinhtopoihseis sta panepisthmia einai ypokinoymenes. Epanalabate sthn oysia ayto poy eipe h ypoyrgos Paideias to prwi. Apo poioys einai ypokinoymenes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas parakalw poly na epanalambanete ep` akribws ayto poy lew. Den gnwrizw giati exete thn tash orismenoi na ermhneyete ayto poy eseis qelete h na metaferete ws diko moy logo -exei symbei kai prosfata se ayth thn aiqoysa- kati to opoio den exw pei. Eipa epi lejei: Me kalyptei apolytws h ypoyrgos Paideias. Tipota perissotero.

BOYZAS: H ypoyrgos Paideias, omws, eipe oti einai ypokinoymenes oi kinhtopoihseis. Apo poioys einai ypokinoymenes, ayto einai to qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tipote perissotero. Me kalyptei h dhlwsh ths ypoyrgoy Paideias.

KORAH: Milwntas sth DAP eipate ``sas perimenoyn sth gwnia kai na prosejete''. Poioi toys perimenoyn sth gwnia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, nomizw oti einai profanes. Giati to eipa, opws akribws to metaferete kai sth synexeia ekana thn anafora, h opoia jeshkwse to salo twn teleytaiwn hmerwn gia to ti pragmatika pisteyei o k. Papandreoy gia toys neoys kai ti toys epifylassei. Eipa, dhladh, ti o k. Papandreoy epifylassei stoys neoys. O k. Papandreoy, opws eidate, se dyo periptwseis sto parelqon, mia me toys neolaioys kai mia me toys syndikalistes -h prwth fora htan sth Boylh, h deyterh prin apo liges hmeres- prospaqhse na ypokinhsei apergies, kinhtopoihseis k.o.k. Ara, loipon, einai profanes poioi einai aytoi poy toys perimenoyn sth gwnia kai poioi me wraia logia -poy einai anantistoixa me ekeina ta opoia pragmatika pisteyoyn-prospaqoyn na peisoyn toys neoys gia alla apo ayta poy exoyn skopo na kanoyn ean ginoyn kybernhsh.

PAPAGIANNHS: Exw dyo erwthseis. H prwth fora mia dieykrinish. Eipate, kanate logo gia lyssalea epiqesh enantion sas poy exei idiotelh kinhtra. Ta idiotelh kinhtra sxetizontai kai me politika kinhtra; Dhladh, blepete politikoys antipaloys pisw apo ayta ta idiotelh kinhtra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh moy einai eparkhs. Eipa, ayta pros to paron. Tipote perissotero.

PAPAGIANNHS: H deyterh erwthsh moy afora thn endexomenh synanthsh ths k. Mpakogiannh sto Leyko Oiko me ton Proedro Tzortz Mpoys. Exete kati neotero; Qa pragmatopoihqei ayth h synanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Den exw kati. Den gnwrizw, genikws, kati gia to qema poy me rwtate.

ZOYLAS: Qelw na epanelqw se ena prohgoymeno erwthma ths k. Korah, h opoia sas rwthse ean to 2,8% twn ayjhsewn poy prosferei o SEB einai arketo gia thn kybernhsh. Dedomenoy oti h eisodhmatikh politikh h dikh sas exei yperbei ayto to 2,8%, dierwtwmai giati den katadikazete eyqews ayth thn protash toy SEB;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei. Den gnwrizw giati qelete na apanthsw opws qa epiqymoyse o kaqenas. Giati, eseis lete ``giati den katadikazw'', h k. Korah qa mporoyse na pei kati allo h kapoios allos kati diaforetiko. H topoqethsh moy htan toso safhs h topoqethsh moy, ajiopoiwntas kai keimeno omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Boylh, poy den xreiazetai na prosqesw tipote perissotero. Dhladh, sxedon exw kanei to sxolio kai gia esas.

ZOYLAS: Lew oti mia apo ths momfes poy apeyqynontai sthn kybernhsh ton teleytaio kairo einai oti xrhsimopoiei ton k. Kyriakopoylo ws ``lago''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: E, oxi da! Ayto, opws qa elege kai o k. Aqanasakhs, apotelei ena endiaferon anekdoto.

DEMESOYKAS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma ths ``Eleyqerotypias'' poy mila gia pempth keraia sthn perioxh ths plateias Mabilh, sxetizomenh me tis ypoklopes. Yparxei kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To diabasa. Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio, giati, opws antilambaneste, afora thn ereyna ths anejarthths Arxhs Diasfalishs Aporrhtoy Epikoinwniwn. Qa perimenoyme to porisma ths, to opoio qa kataqesei sth Boylh.

KORAH: Exoyme dei oti exei epibebaiwqei h symmetoxh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Taktiko Synedrio toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. Sto atypo Synedrio toy ELK poy eixe ginei edw thn proeklogikh periodo, eixe erqei kai o k. Mperloyskoni. Kai tote eixe pei ``eimai edw gia na yposthrijw th Nea Dhmokratia poy einai ena melos ths oikogeneias toy ELK kai ton Kwsta''. Qa pei kati analogo gia ton Silbio kai o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ean exei gracei akomh thn omilia toy o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa perimenoyme.

KORAH: Giati qewreitai bebaio oti qa erwthqei apo ta italika MME.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete sigoyra kales plhrofories apo toys Italoys synadelfoys sas.

KORAH: Eimai dhmosiografos kai jerw pws antidroyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: As perimenoyme thn erwthsh kai thn apanthsh.

KORAH: Qa dhlwsei th sthrijh toy ston k. Mperloyskoni o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ean o Prwqypoyrgos exei gracei -epanalambanw- thn omilia toy, ean thn exei etoimh.

KORAH: Ayto qa einai dhlwsh.

SIDERHS: Ean den to kanei, den qa einai ageneia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mh biazeste. Exoyme akomh mia ebdomada mprosta mas.

KOKAS: Qa hqela na moy peite, ean gnwrizete, poios eixe thn prwtoboylia gia th synanthsh Karamanlh-Mpoytskofski kai ean yparxei atzenta stis synomilies aytes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw. Qa enhmerwqw gia thn prwtoboylia. Opws gnwrizete, ta qemata poy exoyme me th geitona xwra den einai para polla.

ROYMELIWTHS: Akoysa mia dhlwsh to prwi toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy, sto radiofwno toy ALPHA, o opoios oysiastika apodokimase tis dhlwseis Alogoskoyfh peri politikhs apaths kai eipe oti ean hmastan tote kybernhsh qa kaname to idio pragma gia na mpei h xwra sthn ONE.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw idiaitero sxolio. Exw milhsei gi` ayto to qema mia h dyo fores se ayth thn aiqoysa kai exei milhsei kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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