Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-03-21

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Aqhna, 21 Martioy 2006

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, h opoia enekrine omofwna to sxedio toy neoy Ypallhlikoy Kwdika. O armodios ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs k. Paylopoylos exei hdh probei se dhlwseis kai qa dwsei to sxedio sth dhmosiothta.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 10.00, sto Megaro Majimoy, qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Boylhs twn Antiproswpwn ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Dhmhtrh Xristofia. Stis 11.00, qa parastei kai qa milhsei sto politiko mnhmosyno toy Gewrgioy Rallh, sth Boylh.

Qa hqela na apanthsw sta osa eipe, prin apo ligh wra, o k. G. Papandreoy: ``Oi krayges toy laikismoy kai ta prosklhthria ojythtas kai polwshs to mono poy kanoyn -kai to kanoyn me enargeia- einai na anadeiknyoyn thn adynamia toy k. Papandreoy na paraqesei sto ergo ths kybernhshs epoikodomhtikh kritikh, peistika epixeirhmata, sobares kai realistikes protaseis. H monh sygkekrimenh protash poy exei mexri stigmhs diatypwsei o k. Papandreoy afora thn anasfalisth ergasia twn newn. Protash gia thn opoia egine polys logos tis teleytaies hmeres''. Symplhrwmatika, qa hqela na prosqesw sta osa eipa xqes oti o k. Papandreoy prospaqhse na paraplanhsei toys Ellhnes polites, otan pro oligwn ebdomadwn sth Boylh dhlwse oti h protash toy eixe thn ennoia na plhrwqei to asfalistro apo to kratos. Ean kapoios diabasei oloklhrh thn protash-omilia toy k. Papandreoy sto Layrio, qa diapistwsei oti ``qa ginoyn ola ayta, xwris oi epixeirhseis h oi neoi na ypoxrewnontai na kataballoyn asfalistikes eisfores''. Kai synexizei legontas: ``Me ayto ton tropo den epibarynontai oi goneis, den epibarynontai oi epixeirhseis, den epibarynetai to kratos, den epibarynetai to asfalistiko mas systhma''. Otan o k. Papandreoy kalei toys neoys na ginoyn epanastates me aitia, paragnwrizei to gegonos oti oi neoi gnwrizoyn -giati tis biwsan kai oi idioi kai oi oikogeneies toys- tis pragmatikes aiteis twn problhmatwn poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas. Gi` ayto kai ajiwnoyn mia epanastash hqoys, yfoys, politikoy politismoy. Oi neoi mas ajiwnoyn na ekrizwqoyn oristika apo to dhmosio bio, o laikismos kai h dhmagwgia. Apaitoyn apo oloys perissoterh sobarothta, ypeyqynothta kai perissoterh eilikrineia. Apaitoyn kyriws perissotero sebasmo apenanti sth nea genia ths patridas mas.

Ekkremei mia apanthsh moy se xqesinh erwthsh ths k. Poylidoy, sxetika me ton ekproswpo ths xwras mas poy parakoloyqei thn poreia ths strathgikhs ths Lisabonas: Syntonisths ths Epitrophs apo thn pleyra ths xwras mas einai o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. G. Alogoskoyfhs me anaplhrwtria th dieyqyntria toy Oikonomikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. E. Loyrh.

H epigeia chfiakh thleorash einai pleon gegonos kai sthn Ellada. Apo xqes to apogeyma, h ERT egrace nea selida sthn thleoptikh istoria me thn ekpomph toy prwtoy chfiakoy programmatos

``Prisma +@. Stis 5 to apogeyma, arxise me epityxia h ekpomph toy programmatos toy ``Prisma +'', toy polysyllektikoy kanalioy, to opoio einai filiko sta atoma me anaphries kai me plhrh prosbasimothta stoys anqrwpoys poy exoyn problhmata akohs kai orashs. Ekpempei epta wres kaqhmerina kai ola ta programmata metadidontai me nohmatikh diermhneia kai ypotitloys. H megalh kainotomia toy programmatos einai oti kaqe brady stis 9 qa anametadidetai to kentriko deltioy eidhsewn ths NET me nohmatikh diermhneia, etsi wste na parexei enhmerwsh se oles tis koinwnikes omades poy ews twra htan apokleismenes epeidh den yphrxan ektetamenes enhmerwtikes ekpompes poy na apeyqynontai se aytes. Kata th diarkeia toy pilotikoy stadioy qa efarmostoyn epishs oi texnikes epiloghs ypotitlwn kai to jexwristo kanali hxoy poy qa parexei afhghmatikh perigrafh gia ta atoma me problhmata orashs. To programma toy kanalioy perilambanei paidika, cyxagwgika, eidhseografika kai enhmerwtika programmata, ntokimanter, ellhnikes kai jenes seires kai kinhmatografikes tainies. Akoloyqoyn dyo akomh kanalia, gia ta opoia hdh exw milhsei dhmosiws: Ton Aprilio to deytero pilotiko kanali ``CINE +'' kai to Maio to trito, to ``SPORT +''. Anaferomai se ayta, giati apoteloyn mia shmantikh ejelijh gia th metabash sthn chfiakh epoxh poy se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs yparxei hdh apo kairo kai sthn opoia kai h xwra mas akoloyqei, oxi opws mexri protinos ``apo makria kai kataidrwmenh'', alla prwtopora. Dioti, h dhmioyrgia eidikoy programmatos apotelei prwtoporia kai ston eyrwpaiko xwro.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw gia thn Olympiakh. H kybernhsh exei brei ependyth telika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exw pei, einai mia eyaisqhth diadikasia. Den qa hqela na pw tipote perissotero, paroti antilambanomai oti exei poly megalo endiaferon gia oloys kai gia toys Ellhnes polites kai gia toys ergazomenoys sthn Olympiakh. Antilambaneste oti qa prepei na thrhsoyme tis diadikasies oi opoies den mporoyn na ginoyn dhmosia.

KYRITSHS: Den einai oi armodioi gia thn proqesmia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, otan qa exoyn oloklhrwqei oi proqesmies, otan qa exoyn oloklhrwqei oi diadikasies tis opoies akoloyqoyn, qa einai se qesh na proboyn se anakoinwseis prokeimenoy na gnwstopoihsoyn to ti mellei genesqai sto qema ths Olympiakhs.

KYRITSHS: Gnwrizete an to kratos exei plhrwsei ta lefta ta opoia xrwstaei sthn Olympiakh; Giati h Olympiakh leei oti to kratos xrwstaei 580 disekatommyria perissotera apo osa emfanizetai h Olympiakh na xrwstaei sto kratos kai na dhmioyrgeitai olo ayto to problhma. To kratos kai ta kommata bebaia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai oti einai poly sobaro to qema poy qetete. Den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw. Qa parakaloysa gi` ayth thn eidikh erwthsh na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio.

PAPAGIANNHS: Xqes, meta apo thn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn, yphrje mia dieykrinistikh dhlwsh dikh sas. Ayth prosteqhke sto briefing h htan jexwristh dhlwsh kai gia poio logo egine; Htan katanohta ta osa eipate xqes to meshmeri sto briefing.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dhmioyrghqhkan kapoies entypwseis oi opoies odhgoysan mallon sto antiqeto symperasma kai gi` ayto egine h prosqhkh. Zhthsa apo toys synergates moy na sas enhmerwsoyn oti egine ayth h prosqhkh, to opoio kai ekanan.

PAPAGIANNHS: Qelw na rwthsw, gia th symmetoxh toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis 30 Martioy, stis ergasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos, poy einai sth Rwmh. Kapoioi yposthrizoyn oti ayto endexetai na paroysiastei ws eyryterh politikh sthrijh ston Italo Prwqypoyrgo k. Mperloyskoni. Mporeite na moy peite an pragmati einai etsi h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas qymizw, oti prin apo liges hmeres, eixe ginei megalh syzhthsh se ayth thn aiqoysa, isws na leipate th sygkekrimenh hmera kai eixa dwsei apanthseis. Qa meinw se aytes. Qa hqela, omws, na qymisw oti milame gia to Synedrio toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos, to opoio ginetai kaqe fora se diaforetikh xwra.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela na zhthsw to sxolio sas, gia th shmerinh apokalych ths efhmeridas EQNOS symfwna me thn opoia o stenos sas filos k. G. Paterakhs exei aposteilei mia mallon aysthrh epistolh se tesseris ypoyrgoys, apo toys opoioys zhta na ginei syskech prokeimenoy na toys enhmerwsei gia thn emplokh ths etaireias toy sthn ellhnikh amyntikh biomhxania.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan anakinhqhke to qema, prin apo polloys mhnes, ton Aygoysto toy 2005, eixa steilei epistolh se kyriakatikh efhmerida, h opoia gia prwth fora egrace gi ayto to qema. Ayth h epistolh me ta osa perilambanei, apotelei th diarkh apanthsh moy sthn ypoqesh ayth kai se kaqe paromoio zhthma. Epeidh antilambanomai oti exei perasei polys kairos, qa sas anaferw to apospasma ths epistolhs poy qewrw oti exei diaxronikh isxy: ``Einai fanero oti o tropos paroysiashs aytoy toy qematos exei ena kai mono stoxo: Na me plhjei politika. H synolikh dhmosia stash moy apotelei thn apanthsh kai dinei thn apanthsh se kaqe tetoioy eidoys apopeira''. H dhlwsh moy ayth isxyei kai shmera kai qa isxyei sto dihnekes.

SARANTAKOS: Eixate pei kai kati allo tote, oti o k. Paterakhs -kai den eixate krycei tis stenes oikogeneiakes sas sxeseis- asxoleitai me anelkysthres, me kyliomenes skales. Fainetai apo thn epistolh poy esteile me hmeromhnia 8/3/2006, asxoleitai kai me thn amyntikh biomhxania. Ti allaje apo tis tote diabebaiwseis sas mexri tis 8/3/2006; Allaje antikeimeno o k. Paterakhs; Eseis den gnwrizate; Ti akribws synebh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parakalesw na anatrejete se oles tis dhlwseis poy eixa kanei tote, gia na diapistwsete ti akribws exw pei. Sas diabasa to kyriotero apospasma twn dhlwsewn moy.

SARANTAKOS: Qymamai proswpika oti to eixate dieykrinisei stis eyloges erwthseis twn dhmosiografwn tote me epimonh kai malista pros timhn sas, den eixate krycei kai tis oikogeneiakes @ filikes sxeseis poy exete, oti o anqrwpos aytos den asxoleitai me thn amyntikh biomhxania, me oplika systhmata. Epeidh to qymamai, gi` ayto kai epimenw sthn erwthsh moy, an allaje kati apo tote ews shmera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anafereste se ena kommati ths epistolhs moy, to opoio to anefera kai prohgoymenws. Epishs qa hqela na sas pw, qymamai poly kala@

SARANTAKOS: Anaferomai kai se mia syzhthsh poy eixate meta@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi oikogeneiakes kai filikes sxeseis anaferontai sthn epistolh, h opoia exei dhmosieyqei. Qa mporoysa na sas parapemcw se ayth kai na to diapistwsete. Epishs, qymamai poly kala, tis syzhthseis poy exoyn ginei eite on eite off the record. Se kaqe periptwsh isxyei h apanthsh moy.

BOYZAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia to qema ths Olympiakhs. Eipate prin oti oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, otan qa einai etoimoi qa kanoyn tis anakoinwseis toys. Akoysa omws to prwi ton armodio yfypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Doyka, se radiofwnikh toy synenteyjh, na leei oti hdh exoyn breqei ependytes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto eipa: Yparxei mia diadikasia kai qa akoloyqhqei ayth h diadikasia. Prin kai apo tis anakoinwseis, qa ginei enhmerwsh kai syzhthsh sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph. Einai mia diadikasia poy ofeilei kapoios na akoloyqhsei giati to qema einai para poly sobaro kai xreiazetai leptoys xeirismoys. Kata synepeia, otan qa einai etoimo to sxedio, otan qa exoyn oloklhrwqei aytes oi epafes, otan qa exoyn yparjei apotelesmata, qa ginei enhmerwsh ths koinhs gnwmhs.

BOYZAS: Nomizw, oti, o k. Liaphs exei diaforetikh apoch k. Ypoyrge.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na nomizete. Den apokleietai na nomizete.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete, stoxos ths kybernhshs se olh ayth th diadikasia gia thn Olympiakh poios einai; Na jefortwqei thn Olympiakh kai na paradwsei ton Eqniko Aerometaforea se tyxarpasta sxhmata ependytwn; Kai deyteron, an alhqeyei h plhroforia oti qa allajei to onoma ths kai sto ejhs qa legetai ``Panqeon Airways''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, den exw na dwsw apanthsh, giati entassetai sta osa eipa prohgoymenws. Me to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, moy dinete thn aformh na diabasw mia dhlwsh poy eixe kanei stis 18/11/2005 o k. Alogoskoyfhs, h opoia exei diaxronikh isxy: ``Skopos einai h ejasfalish twn eyryterwn eqnikwn symferontwn, h eggyhsh gia thn ejyphrethsh toy epibatikoy koinoy kai h ikanopoihsh twn anagkwn twn nhsiwn mesw mias biwsimhs etaireias, symfwnhs me toys kanones ths E.E., peri eleyqeroy antagwnismoy''.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela to sxolio sas, gia th dhmosiopoihsh apo thn pleyra melwn ths kybernhshs. Anaferomai stoys k. Liaph kai Alogoskoyfh, se mia fash kai stoys k. Liaph kai Doyka se allh fash diafwniwn gia kentrika zhthmata opws einai h efarmogh toy nomoy gia tis DEKO kai opws einai h poreia toy sxedioy gia thn apokratikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia koinh synistamenh sta osa exoyn dhlwsei oloi oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi kai den blepw th diaforopoihsh thn opoia eseis anadeiknyete h tonizete me thn erwthsh sas.

SPYRAKH: H kybernhsh telika skopeyei na parameinei sta yparxonta xronika oria poy problepei o nomos gia tis DEKO kai an protiqetai na askhsei to dikaiwma poy ths dinei o nomos aytos ths epidiaithsias, ean den katalhjoyn oi diapragmateyseis metajy ergodotwn kai ergazomenwn stis DEKO, meta tis 28 Aprilioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Aytos einai o stoxos. Malista h erwthsh poy ekane o k. Papagiannhs prohgoymenws anaferetai fantazomai sth symplhrwsh poy proebhn xqes sto apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno ths enhmerwshs. O stoxos einai na oloklhrwqoyn oi diadikasies kai proxwrame basei toy programmatos poy problepei o nomos.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: H metabash ths ``Olympiakhs Aeroporias'' se ``Panqeon'', qa afhsei kapoioys xiliades ergazomenoys ejw. Yparxei kapoio sxedio apo thn kybernhsh kai ean h kybernhsh einai etoimh na antimetwpisei kyma antidrasewn twn ergazomenwn sthn Olympiakh kai me poio tropo; Politikh Epistrateysh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei allajei tipote. Ean anazhthsete palaiotera keimena toy briefing, qa deite oti den exei allajei tipote se sxesh me to erwthma poy qetete. O,ti exw pei sto parelqon, polles fores kai egw kai oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi, einai en isxy.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Ennow den sas fobizei na meinei o Eqnikos Aerometaforeas kaqhlwmenos, ta aeroplana kaqhlwmena, logw antidrasewn twn ergazomenwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me rwthsate ean yparxei sxedio gia toys ergazomenoys. Sas apantw loipon, oti to sxedio ayto yparxei. Einai kati poy anakoinwqhke apo thn prwth stigmh. Apo ekei kai pera, oi ergazomenoi exoyn kaqe dikaiwma na kinhqoyn opws ekeinoi nomizoyn.

IWANNOY: Meta apo arketoys mhnes apo th stigmh poy o Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei oti qa prowqhqei sxedon to synolo twn ergazomenwn sthn Olympiakh, ektimate oti ayto einai efikto h ypologizete oti qa yparjoyn dyskolies kai den qa mporesoyn oloi na prowqhqoyn se kapoia allh qesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ektimw oti einai ikanopoihtikh h apanthsh poy eixa dwsei, polles fores, tote.

IWANNOY: Oson afora to qema toy EQNOYS, eiqistai na ginetai kapoia ekdhlwsh endiaferontos h na proskaloyntai oi ypoyrgoi se kapoia syskech gia na enhmerwqoyn gia otidhpote mporei na afora mia etaireia, gia thn promhqeia h ti systhmata exei k.lp. Einai mia synhqhs praktikh ayth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Den eimai ypoyrgos se paragwgiko ypoyrgeio gia na to gnwrizw.

SARANTAKOS: Fantazomai oti den gnwrizete, epishs, ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos ean exei pragmatopoihqei kapoia synanthsh me toys apodektes tis epistolhs toy k. Paterakh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Swsta fantazeste.

SARANTAKOS: Qa to ereynhsete na mas enhmerwsete ayrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

SARANTAKOS: Giati etsi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa to ereynhsw. Den exei kanena nohma na ereynhsw kati. Enas poliths esteile mia epistolh zhtwntas kati apo orismenoys ypoyrgoys. Ayto afora ton polith, den afora, kat` anagkh, thn kybernhsh.

SARANTAKOS: Ean exei ginei syskech den afora kai thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

MANH: Kai h xqesinh dhmoskophsh kai den anaferomai sthn proqesh chfoy poy den thn sxoliazete paradosiaka@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, den sxoliazw synolika dhmoskophseis.

SIDERHS: Sxoliazete otan sas boleyei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eniote. Mexri twra, oi dhmoskophseis poy exoyn dhmosieyqei, einai poly endiaferoyses kai qetikes gia th Nea Dhmokratia. Den sxoliaza pote dhmoskophseis, oyte ws antipoliteysh, oyte ws kybernhsh. Spaniws kanw ejaireseis gia poly sygkekrimena qemata.

MANH: Qa sas rwthsw gia tis arnhtikes kriseis se sobaroys tomeis poy xeirizetai h kybernhsh: oikonomia, akribeia, ypoklopes, anergia. To kampanaki kindynoy exei hxhsei sto kybernhtiko epiteleio; Giati oles oi teleytaies dhmoskophseis edwsan arnhtikes kriseis stoys xeirismoys ths kybernhshs sta krisima zhthmata ths kaqhmerinothta kai mh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kaqhmerinothta exei para polla problhmata. Ayta ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas kaloymaste na lysoyme ws kybernhsh. Paralabame para polla problhmata, ta opoia eixan dhmioyrghqei kyriws ejaitias ths oikonomikhs katastashs poy afhse pisw toy to PASOK. H prospaqeia mas, sta megala kai ta mikra, einai diarkhs, qewrwntas oti ola einai poly shmantika gia th zwh toy Ellhna polith.

KAKALHS: Sthn prospaqeia poy kanete gia na lysete ta problhmata, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti sth syneidhsh ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias ths koinhs gnwmhs -opws krinetai apo ta gkalop- h politikh ths einai taytismenh me thn ejyphrethsh twn megalwn symferontwn twn ergodotwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti den milw gia dhmoskophseis kai den tis sxoliazw.

KAKALHS: Epi ths oysias einai ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean arxisoyme na milame gia dhmoskophseis, qa qymhqoyme oti yparxei seira dhmoskophsewn, oi opoies dinoyn pososta ths tajews toy 60% h 70% qetikhs gnwmhs twn Ellhnwn politwn gia tis megales metarryqmiseis poy exei jekinhsei h kybernhsh. Ara, loipon, eseis poies dhmoskophseis qelete na sxoliasw; Tis men h tis de;

KAKALHS: Oi metarryqmiseis einai poly sxetiko pragma, pws ermhneyontai kai analoga pws tiqetai h erwthsh. Egw, omws, qetw sygkekrimenh erwthsh gi` ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti ean anatrejete stoys teleytaioys mhnes se metrhseis ths koinhs gnwmhs, qa diapistwsete oti yparxei seira metrhsewn, oi opoies se pososta, opws ayta poy anefera prohgoymenws, ekfrazoyn th qetikh gnwmh twn politwn gia tis megales metarryqmiseis stis opoies exei proxwrhsei ayth h kybernhsh.

PAPAGIANNHS: Ena allo xarakthristiko twn metrhsewn poy dhmosiopoihqhkan tis teleytaies hmeres einai mia diaxyth -an qelete- apogohteysh toy eklogikoy swmatos synolika apo to politiko skhniko, h opoia endexomenws na eynoei ena mikrotero komma apo th Nea Dhmokratia poy brisketai ek dejiwn sas to LA.OS. Qa allajei strathgikh h antimetwpish toy apo th dikh sas pleyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H strathgikh ths Neas Dhmokratias exei ws stoxo na antimetwpisei ta megala problhmata poy parelabe.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, enocei ths episkechs ths k. Mpakogiannh stis HPA, ean h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na anabaqmisei thn ellhnikh paroysia sto Afganistan kai deytereyontws ean einai diateqeimenh na enisxysei tis katoxikes dynameis sto Irak.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei kati se ayto poy moy lete. Mporw na enhmerwqw kai na sas apanthsw, paroti protimw -opws sas exw pei kai alles fores- erwthseis eidikoy periexomenoy na apeyqynontai sta antistoixa ypoyrgeia.

KYRITSHS: Einai koryfaio qema to na symmetasxoyme se polemo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa: Qa to dw.

SIDERHS: Diabazw se mia efhmerida oti exoyme ayjhsh 135% stis lhsteies apo thn arxh toy etoys. Kata th dikh toy dhlwsh ``o neos stratiwths toy fwtos'' k. Polydwras, ti qa kanei gi` ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prospaqeia ths kybernhshs kai toy armodioy ypoyrgoy einai na meiwqei h egklhmatikothta.

SIDERHS: Ayto einai aytonohto.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean mporeite na diabebaiwsete apo th qesh toy ekproswpoy ths kybernhshs toys Ellhnes polites kai toys ergazomenoys sthn O.A. oti exoyn breqei ependytes gia to diadoxo sxhma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka prin gia to ti akribws ginetai kai sas apanthsa oti einai mia seira shmantikwn kai leptwn diadikasiwn kai den qa pw tipota perissotero. Moy zhtate me enan tropo, o opoios prodidei kati, na kanw mia dhlwsh antiqeth me ayta ta opoia eipa prohgoymenws. Den mporw na mpw se perissoteres leptomereies.

SPYRAKH: Den zhthsa leptomereies, alla lew to oti exoyn breqei ependytes einai nomizw kombiko erwthma gia to mellon aytoy toy egxeirhmatos kai gi ayto to rwtw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H prospaqeia einai ayth poy exoyme perigracei. Thn exw perigracei ki egw polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa, kaqws kai oi synarmodioi ypoyrgoi. Den exei allajei tipota se ayto. Einai mia megalh prospaqeia, poy apaitei leptoys xeirismoys. H kybernhsh otan qa exoyn oloklhrwqei oi aparaithtes diadikasies qa kanei tis anakoinwseis ths.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Epeidh arxizontas thn enhmerwsh anaferqhkate sto PASOK kai stis dhlwseis toy k. Papandreoy legontas oti xrhsimopoiei krayges ojythtas kai apeyqynei prosklhthria, qelw na sas rwthsw, xreiazontai ypokinhtes oswn qigontai ta epaggelmatika h asfalistika toys kekthmena. To lew ayto me thn ennoia oti se kaqe periptwsh o kaqe anqrwpos mporei na ektimhsei ean prosballontai ta kekthmena toy. Epishs, den einai sto rolo ths antipoliteyshs na apeyqynei prosklhthrio ean nomizei oti h ekastote kybernhsh den prattei kapoia pragmata swsta; Blepei akoma h kybernhsh ypokinhtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exete parakoloyqhsei h ayta poy exw pei egw h ayta poy exei pei o k. Papandreoy.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Xrhsimopoiw lejeis poy eipate: ``prosklhthrio''. Poios to apeyqynei kai poy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exete parakoloyqhsei kati apo ta dyo. Einai profanes oti den exete parakoloyqhsei h to ena h to allo. Ean eixate akoysei ayto poy eipa xqes h thn Kyriakh se omilia moy, den qa moy kanate thn erwthsh. O k. Papandreoy -gia na freskarw th mnhmh sas- hrqe enwpion twn Ellhnwn politwn kai kalese toys neoys na kanoyn th dikh toys epanastash, kata to paradeigma twn Gallwn neolaiwn. H kybernhsh kai o kybernhtikos ekproswpos kai polloi alloi, ypoyrgoi, stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias toy apanthsan oti ayto poy zhta apo toys neoys, einai ayta poy o idios o k. Papandreoy, me ton diko toy tropo, proteine na kanoyn prin apo peripoy dyo xronia se omilia toy sto Layrio, ayta gia ta opoia diadhlwnoyn oysiastika shmera oi Galloi neolaioi. Edeija th diproswpia me thn opoia antimetwpizoyn o k. Papandreoy kai to PASOK ta problhmata twn newn.

SIDERHS: Asxeta apo th xioymoristikh proseggish moy sto qema toy k. Polydwra yparxei ontws qema dhmosias asfaleias. Otan exoyme 135% ayjhsh stis lhsteies apo thn arxh toy etoys, deixnei adiaforia h apodiarqrwsh twn dynamewn asfaleias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ola ta stoixeia. Anafereste se ena qema poy einai shmantiko. Yparxei mia seira zhthmatwn sto tomea ``egklhmatikothta''. Den exw sth diaqesh moy ta stoixeia ayth th stigmh, wste na sas pw se ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn egklhmatikothta, ean exoyme ayjhsh h meiwsh. Oi lhsteies einai to ena qema. Endexomenws se alla qemata na exei ginei megalh proodos kai na exoyme meiwsh. Den to gnwrizw, den eimai eidikos ep` aytoy. Mporw na enhmerwqw kai na to syzhthsoyme ayrio. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, mia syzhthsh me ton ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs qa sas diafwtisei perissotero.

Sas eyxaristw.

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